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The UnPopular Opinion: Sucker Punch

Sep. 25, 2013by: Alex Maidy

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

****SOME SPOILERS ENSUE****

When Zack Snyder burst onto the scene with his remake of DAWN OF THE DEAD, I was immediately surprised. As an avid fan of the George Romero original, there was no reason for me to like a remake that not only eschewed the standard slow-moving zombie. But, from the opening montage set to Johnny Cash's "The Man Comes Around" through the Richard Cheese cover of "The Sickness", I knew that Snyder had something up his sleeve. His career has gone on to divide fans and critics as superficial, glossy movies with no depth and a music video mentality. Oh, and lots and lots of slow motion. Much like Michael Bay, Snyder didn't shy away from his trademark style but instead embraced it. Through his films 300, WATCHMEN, LEGEND OF THE GUARDIANS, and MAN OF STEEL, Snyder has embraced his technical trickery and given us visually breathtaking cinema. While critics may still lambast the man for his shortcomings as a director, he delivered his ultimate movie reply to critics and fans with his 2011 film, SUCKER PUNCH.

I loved SUCKER PUNCH. Not because it revolutionizes movies or does anything that has never been done before, but because it is a fun eyegasm that you can take and leave after a couple of hours. It does not require subtext or deeper analysis nor should you attempt to tie the title of the film to any specific plot point. SUCKER PUNCH is an all out arsenal of movie magic that plasters a big smile on your face. From the over the top performances from Scott Glenn, Jon Hamm, and Carla Gugino to the sexy leading ladies, SUCKER PUNCH never pretends to be a contender for the Cannes Palm D'or. It is content to just be.

Pigtails do it for me, every time.

Snyder described SUCKER PUNCH as "ALICE IN WONDERLAND with machine guns" but I think a more fitting comparison would be to THE MATRIX. Both films have the Lewis Carroll sensibility, but SUCKER PUNCH and THE MATRIX share a lot more. Both create an intricate universe that requires very high amounts of suspension of disbelief for them to work. If you want to enjoy SUCKER PUNCH, you have to give yourself over completely to the world being laid out for you. Also, like The Wachowski's CLOUD ATLAS, you have to give yourself time and multiple viewings before all of the pieces fit together. I previously said that SUCKER PUNCH is a movie that you can leave as is without analyzing it, but that doesn't mean that you cannot. Terry Gilliam's THE IMAGINARIUM OF DOCTOR PARNASSUS is a similar surreal film that I have not returned to after my initial viewing. I still like it despite being left with questions as to how the story ties together. I am sure if I rewatched it, I would enjoy it more. The same goes for SUCKER PUNCH. You can flip it on basic cable at any point in the movie and enjoy segments of the film without worrying about plot continuity, but sitting down and watching the entire movie yields more enjoyment as you find it does work.

Some might say that a movie should make sense the first time you see it without much effort. Okay, so let's look at SUCKER PUNCH. The story centers on Babydoll (Emily Browning) who is sent away by her cruel Stepfather to an insane asylum where he has bribed an orderly (Oscar Isaac) to have her lobotomized. It is here that Babydoll falls into a fantasy world where the asylum is actually a brothel and she is forced to dance. Here she falls into a second fantasy world that pits her against giant Samurai warriors in feudal Japan and meets a Wise Man played by Scott Glenn. He tells Babydoll she must find five items which will set her free. This is followed by disparate set pieces set in a steampunk World War I, an Orc infested castle, and a train swarming with robots. It is not until the conclusion that we finally learn what the fifth fantasy is.

Oh, the humanity!

The criticism of Synder's film has never been the visually stunning movie itself but rather the incoherent plot. While I agree that the film is full of plot-holes and nonsensical events that contradict each other, that should not distract from the overall enjoyment of the movie. If it weren't for "errors" in plot and narrative, those guys at Honest Trailers would have nothing to spoof and Internet trolls would have nothing to blow out of proportion. I am aware that I am the same guy who nitpicked THE AVENGERS for similar contrivances, but SUCKER PUNCH was never trying to be the benchmark for a genre. SUCKER PUNCH is a visual experiment from Zack Snyder to showcase some visual magic rooted in an exploitation style story.

Which warrants discussion of the so-called misogyny that SUCKER PUNCH has been accused of. The primarily female cast has been said to be stereotypical women in distress who fail to rise above their torment. It is also said that Snyder fails to empower them in any way and therefore the movie becomes exactly what it was trying to not be. I disagree. SUCKER PUNCH is nothing more than an exploitation film. When Robert Rodriguez makes MACHETE, critics gave it mostly positive reviews calling it shallow, tasteless, and over the top. The underrated Clive Owen action flick SHOOT EM UP similarly got good reviews and critics called it the same words and added the phrase cartoonish. SUCKER PUNCH is a cartoon as well. It is cheesy, messy, nonsensical, but above all fun. If you want female empowerment, go watch a movie that is trying to send a positive message. SUCKER PUNCH's message is have fun watching shit explode and see some babes in skimpy outfits. In no way is it trying to be an analytical diatribe on the modern oppression of women. Nor is it trying to be a satire of how the public health system works for underprivileged women. SUCKER PUNCH is about tits, ass, and guns. Who needs more than that?

Dang, I figured Vanessa Hudgen's hole was wide, but not THAT wide!

SUCKER PUNCH is also a kitchen sink type movie. Snyder throws absolutely everything he has to see what sticks. Hell, there are multiple musical numbers in the film! Luckily, this movie was made with relative unknown actors and before Snyder became the director of MAN OF STEEL. That means that it is looked on differently than if it were to have been made by James Cameron or Michael Bay. Both Bay and Cameron have been criticized for weak screenplays and sacrificing the visual over the story, but does that stop us from praising AVATAR or THE ROCK? Snyder is able to temper himself as evidenced by the remarkable lack of slow motion in MAN OF STEEL, but SUCKER PUNCH was his opportunity to cut loose and do whatever the hell he wanted. Most mainstream directors do not get that opportunity with a big budget. If this movie had been made by Quentin Tarantino, I doubt we would have heard such an uproar about it.

We don't often get rewarded with pure fun at the movies anymore. The studios are not willing to take the risk and the filmmakers are forced to fund their passion projects themselves. When we do get to see their dreams realized, it is often at the expense of the critics of the world. SUCKER PUNCH made back it's budget and has become a cult favorite on DVD and cable. I truly believe that Zack Snyder's name carries a stigma from fans intent to hate his films. I have not hated any of his movies and truly enjoyed both MAN OF STEEL and WATCHMEN. Could they have been better? Absolutely. Were they bad? Not even remotely. SUCKER PUNCH was an original idea and stands as something that should be immune to criticism because it doesn't give a f*ck what the critics think. It just wants to entertain you. Give it a chance and it will.

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10:04AM on 10/09/2013

More love if a comic first?

I always thought that if this movie was a comic first and then made into this same movie that people would have liked it more.

There have been other movies that I've enjoyed but thought the love for them was because people already had a connection with it - Scott Pilgrim?
I always thought that if this movie was a comic first and then made into this same movie that people would have liked it more.

There have been other movies that I've enjoyed but thought the love for them was because people already had a connection with it - Scott Pilgrim?
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3:52PM on 09/28/2013
I always thought this movie would have made a much better video game.
I always thought this movie would have made a much better video game.
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9:44AM on 09/28/2013

not bad but didnt make a whole lot of sense

I thought it looked good but just made no sense. That being said I loved watchmen and dawn of the dead. This film is just very forgettable. On another note, motherpuncher, how about you stop trolling all the comments? Peice of shit.
I thought it looked good but just made no sense. That being said I loved watchmen and dawn of the dead. This film is just very forgettable. On another note, motherpuncher, how about you stop trolling all the comments? Peice of shit.
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4:48PM on 10/09/2013
I'm glad you're a fan. I'm the troll but people think this is a good movie? LULZ
I'm glad you're a fan. I'm the troll but people think this is a good movie? LULZ
1:04PM on 09/26/2013

You're missing the point

I feel like people who like this movie are missing two critical points. 1. These girls aren't dancing they're getting RAPED, Snyder is the king of terrible things happening off camera (MoS tons of people died in Metropolis but the audience never sees it.) 2. A movie can't be good if there is no repercussions, whether it's a fantasy inside a fantasy or just a fantasy to get away from rape what happens in the fantasy doesn't matter. Unlike the Matrix where they can die when they enter, in Sucker
I feel like people who like this movie are missing two critical points. 1. These girls aren't dancing they're getting RAPED, Snyder is the king of terrible things happening off camera (MoS tons of people died in Metropolis but the audience never sees it.) 2. A movie can't be good if there is no repercussions, whether it's a fantasy inside a fantasy or just a fantasy to get away from rape what happens in the fantasy doesn't matter. Unlike the Matrix where they can die when they enter, in Sucker Punch it simply doesn't matter. By doing this, it takes away any excitement and makes the film completely boring, why do I care about these characters? Tarantino would never make a movie like this because he understands characters and.there would be repercussions for actions, unlike Sucker Punch which doesn't even give the viewer one thing to care about. "Sucker Punch is like Inception for stupid people with 100% more rape." - Paul Scheer
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8:16AM on 09/26/2013
Bet everyone that loves this piece of crap hated Transformers right?
Bet everyone that loves this piece of crap hated Transformers right?
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9:33PM on 09/25/2013
I know there's a lot of criticism toward the film, but I liked it.
I know there's a lot of criticism toward the film, but I liked it.
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9:29PM on 09/25/2013
I seem to remember enjoying Sucker Punch, but I was so drunk at the time I'm not really sure. Needless to say, a (sober) rewatch is due in order to reevaluate how I feel about it.
I seem to remember enjoying Sucker Punch, but I was so drunk at the time I'm not really sure. Needless to say, a (sober) rewatch is due in order to reevaluate how I feel about it.
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8:47PM on 09/25/2013
I saw this movie a couple years ago after skipping it due to the hate and surprisingly I enjoyed it. Quite a bit actually. Yeah the story isn't anything to write home about but I liked the girls, I loved the music and the visual aspect was unique and interesting so yeah. I like this film.
I saw this movie a couple years ago after skipping it due to the hate and surprisingly I enjoyed it. Quite a bit actually. Yeah the story isn't anything to write home about but I liked the girls, I loved the music and the visual aspect was unique and interesting so yeah. I like this film.
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8:28PM on 09/25/2013
Not as bad as Man of Steel, but not particularly good either.
Not as bad as Man of Steel, but not particularly good either.
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8:14AM on 09/26/2013
That has to be the most foolish, fanboy enraged statement I've ever heard. But you are entitled to your opinions, as wrong as they might be.
That has to be the most foolish, fanboy enraged statement I've ever heard. But you are entitled to your opinions, as wrong as they might be.
6:22PM on 09/26/2013
I find that it's the fanboys who constantly delude themselves into believing bad films are good. They want to like something sooooo much that they refuse to see a film for what it really is. Man of Still could have been 90minutes of nothing but a single image of a dog turd, and fans would praise it.
I find that it's the fanboys who constantly delude themselves into believing bad films are good. They want to like something sooooo much that they refuse to see a film for what it really is. Man of Still could have been 90minutes of nothing but a single image of a dog turd, and fans would praise it.
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8:25PM on 09/25/2013

"Should be immune to criticism because it doesn't give a ---- what the critics think"

Woah, woah, woah. I am pretty sure that" Epic Movie" and "Meet the Spartans" and "From Justin 2 Kelly" and "Baby Geniuses 2" all didn't care what the critics thought of them, but that in no way makes them immune to criticism.
Woah, woah, woah. I am pretty sure that" Epic Movie" and "Meet the Spartans" and "From Justin 2 Kelly" and "Baby Geniuses 2" all didn't care what the critics thought of them, but that in no way makes them immune to criticism.
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6:54PM on 09/25/2013
I enjoyed it. I am a big fan of fantasy scenarios in film, stuff like The Matrix, Inception, and this one. I like that these filmmakers find ways to bend the rules. They don't have to stick to reality and they have justifications for why. And we are able to go along with it. I had fun watching Sucker Punch. The story may have been fairly incoherent and I think Snyder was indeed going for something deeper than pure exploitation in his story, which obviously failed. But the parts of the film that
I enjoyed it. I am a big fan of fantasy scenarios in film, stuff like The Matrix, Inception, and this one. I like that these filmmakers find ways to bend the rules. They don't have to stick to reality and they have justifications for why. And we are able to go along with it. I had fun watching Sucker Punch. The story may have been fairly incoherent and I think Snyder was indeed going for something deeper than pure exploitation in his story, which obviously failed. But the parts of the film that work, work damn well. Every fantasy sequence is so imaginative and fun, you simply can't take it seriously. I sure didn't.
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1:08PM on 09/26/2013
Only there are no rules for sucker puncher, if they die in the fantasy nothing happens to them. Snyder was going for something deeper? What was that? That women should just get raped and going into a fantasy world and they'll be stronger for it? Yeah that's real fucking deep.
Only there are no rules for sucker puncher, if they die in the fantasy nothing happens to them. Snyder was going for something deeper? What was that? That women should just get raped and going into a fantasy world and they'll be stronger for it? Yeah that's real fucking deep.
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4:55PM on 09/25/2013

meh

I tried watching the first 30 minutes and it was so hard for me to keep watching cause it was so bad. The incoherent plot was easy to spot out, the acting was awful, and the dialogue was cringe worthy. Sadly, I was able to sit through all of Gigli.
I tried watching the first 30 minutes and it was so hard for me to keep watching cause it was so bad. The incoherent plot was easy to spot out, the acting was awful, and the dialogue was cringe worthy. Sadly, I was able to sit through all of Gigli.
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4:40PM on 09/25/2013

I really liked it too

it was better than Man of Steel, that's for sure.
it was better than Man of Steel, that's for sure.
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4:40PM on 09/25/2013

Always loved this movie...

Film should be entertaining first, so I'm really unsure why people hate on this movie. Personally, I think it was just the "cool" thing to do. Eff that noise, I sat in the theater, watched, enjoyed. End of story.
Film should be entertaining first, so I'm really unsure why people hate on this movie. Personally, I think it was just the "cool" thing to do. Eff that noise, I sat in the theater, watched, enjoyed. End of story.
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4:31PM on 09/25/2013

Favorite Film Of All Time

I have stated loudly, often, and for a very long time a belief that since movies are a visual experience before anything else, a movie must be visually engaging first and foremost; the visuals of such differ depending on the genre, and this is not to say story and characterization are not supremely important (they are tied for second place, and are barely below).

With that being said, I have never seen z more visually appealing film than 'Sucker Punch' and I love ever second of it. I do
I have stated loudly, often, and for a very long time a belief that since movies are a visual experience before anything else, a movie must be visually engaging first and foremost; the visuals of such differ depending on the genre, and this is not to say story and characterization are not supremely important (they are tied for second place, and are barely below).

With that being said, I have never seen z more visually appealing film than 'Sucker Punch' and I love ever second of it. I do disagree about one thing here though- the female leads are empowered (slight spoilers ahead):

In the real world, they are being sexual abused in a place they have no power of any real sort. In the second, that is transformed into them working in a brothel, therefore giving the sexual abuse quite a bit of weight, as it's what they are trying the hardest to escape. In the action fantasy scenes, they are all tarted up and dressed skimpily as a way to bring that aspect up and turn it on it's head (one of several reasons for the title). In those scenes, they are always in control, and kicking ass, and have the power they deserve. The movie does get a bit muddled in trying to convey that, sure, but it's there, and it is empowering.
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1:11PM on 09/26/2013
I feel stupider for reading you're comment
I feel stupider for reading you're comment
2:47PM on 09/25/2013

I love this movie

The only limitation Zack Snyder has is as a screenwriter. He should just stay away from the computer and stick behind the camera for now because his directing skills, not unlike Christoper Nolan, far outshine his writing skills. I'll defend Zack Snyder the director any day as he has a distinct and beautiful visual style, can direct incredible action scenes, and handles all of his actors very well to boot. Whenever I go see a Zack Snyder movie, I know it's going to be a visual treat and a
The only limitation Zack Snyder has is as a screenwriter. He should just stay away from the computer and stick behind the camera for now because his directing skills, not unlike Christoper Nolan, far outshine his writing skills. I'll defend Zack Snyder the director any day as he has a distinct and beautiful visual style, can direct incredible action scenes, and handles all of his actors very well to boot. Whenever I go see a Zack Snyder movie, I know it's going to be a visual treat and a marvel, but the script might not be quite there. I remember when Sucker Punch was coming out and I was so excited. All I got from the trailers were hot girls in skimpy outfits fighting dragons, robots, German soldier steampunk zombies, and giant gatling gun wielding samurai.

That's exactly what I got.
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1:13PM on 09/26/2013
Are you 12 years old?
Are you 12 years old?
1:36PM on 09/25/2013
the only good thing i can say about this movie is that when my wife wore the babydoll costume for halloween last year we had the best sex of our lives that night!
the only good thing i can say about this movie is that when my wife wore the babydoll costume for halloween last year we had the best sex of our lives that night!
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1:25PM on 09/25/2013
Look, Snyder had an idea for five or six interesting scenes, and he decided to build a nonsensical story around them to shoehorn them in. Instead, what he should have done was spent his own money to make them into self-contained shorts (much like what Whedon was doing at the time this shitburger came out).

When you have studio execs from WB apologizing to the execs of all the major theater chains at SXSW prior to the screening of this movie, you know it's bad. Remember, WB execs released
Look, Snyder had an idea for five or six interesting scenes, and he decided to build a nonsensical story around them to shoehorn them in. Instead, what he should have done was spent his own money to make them into self-contained shorts (much like what Whedon was doing at the time this shitburger came out).

When you have studio execs from WB apologizing to the execs of all the major theater chains at SXSW prior to the screening of this movie, you know it's bad. Remember, WB execs released shit like Batman and Robin without an apology. So if they were so aware of how bad this movie was that they actually apologized, you know the movie is actually godawful.
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12:49PM on 09/25/2013
While this flick is definitely not without it's flaws, I enjoyed it. I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it either. It entertained me.
While this flick is definitely not without it's flaws, I enjoyed it. I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it either. It entertained me.
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12:46PM on 09/25/2013

Hated it

couldve been a 'fun' flick if it had gotten its head out its pretentious ass for five minutes but it didn't happen.
couldve been a 'fun' flick if it had gotten its head out its pretentious ass for five minutes but it didn't happen.
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11:50AM on 09/25/2013

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Once people start calling a movie "fun" or use "popcorn" as an excuse, it usually means the movie is pretty bad. Sucker Punch is what happens when Zack Snyder gets creative control over everything. It shows his biggest flaws as a filmmaker. I'm not a Snyder hater, but this one doesn't do anything for me. I need more than tits and guns to have a good time at the movie theater. I understand that he's not trying to make Seven Samurai, but there is an incoherence to this movie that just makes
Once people start calling a movie "fun" or use "popcorn" as an excuse, it usually means the movie is pretty bad. Sucker Punch is what happens when Zack Snyder gets creative control over everything. It shows his biggest flaws as a filmmaker. I'm not a Snyder hater, but this one doesn't do anything for me. I need more than tits and guns to have a good time at the movie theater. I understand that he's not trying to make Seven Samurai, but there is an incoherence to this movie that just makes it horrible. Another thing, Scot Glenn looks like he's reading off a cue card throughout the whole movie.
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11:16AM on 09/25/2013
Really enjoyed this flick when i saw it theaters. Its was bright, loud and hot and that's all i figured it would be. Had i also figured the story would be a bit better? Sure, but i was still damn entertained and left the theater with a smile on my face.
I've heard that a good chunk of the footage shot hit the cutting room floor. That all the girls were planned to have their own dance scenes and stuff like that. So i always wonder what could have been.
Really enjoyed this flick when i saw it theaters. Its was bright, loud and hot and that's all i figured it would be. Had i also figured the story would be a bit better? Sure, but i was still damn entertained and left the theater with a smile on my face.
I've heard that a good chunk of the footage shot hit the cutting room floor. That all the girls were planned to have their own dance scenes and stuff like that. So i always wonder what could have been.
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10:22AM on 09/25/2013
this movie bored the hell outta me.
this movie bored the hell outta me.
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10:19AM on 09/25/2013

Yes!

I think this movie is awesome. Simply popcorn fun. The action scenes are great and the visuals are beautifully done. People over thought this movie.
I think this movie is awesome. Simply popcorn fun. The action scenes are great and the visuals are beautifully done. People over thought this movie.
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9:38AM on 09/25/2013
When I saw this film, I enjoyed it, but thought deeper... like what if Sucker Punch was a mini-series and each episode was the girls' adventures for an hour. If only that were true, it would have been a lot better. If viewers are looking for logic and series plot points, then they're mistaken, for this movie was made by Snyder, showing his love for movie making and the love of visuals. Richard Roeper called The Matrix sequels "visual poetry," and Sucker Punch is just that.
When I saw this film, I enjoyed it, but thought deeper... like what if Sucker Punch was a mini-series and each episode was the girls' adventures for an hour. If only that were true, it would have been a lot better. If viewers are looking for logic and series plot points, then they're mistaken, for this movie was made by Snyder, showing his love for movie making and the love of visuals. Richard Roeper called The Matrix sequels "visual poetry," and Sucker Punch is just that.
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1:17PM on 09/26/2013
Only the matrix has meaning and the characters don't enter the Matrix to get away from rape.
Only the matrix has meaning and the characters don't enter the Matrix to get away from rape.
9:21AM on 09/25/2013

Finally!

I was hoping Sucker Punch would make it here. I loved it! A lot of people hate on Snyder for the way he tells his stories, comparing him to Michael Bay. But if you really pay attention, you'll know that Snyder has a story to tell underneath all the high-octane insane action. Bay gives you all the action and tries to artificially put together a story from it. Snyder is a very visual director who doesn't explain a lot of the story via dialogue or expositions. It's there, you just have to connect
I was hoping Sucker Punch would make it here. I loved it! A lot of people hate on Snyder for the way he tells his stories, comparing him to Michael Bay. But if you really pay attention, you'll know that Snyder has a story to tell underneath all the high-octane insane action. Bay gives you all the action and tries to artificially put together a story from it. Snyder is a very visual director who doesn't explain a lot of the story via dialogue or expositions. It's there, you just have to connect the dots in your head. Truth be told, Nolan is the same way. It's just that people think he's the messiah because his movies are labeled as intelligent whereas Snyder's are called "eye candy". Seriously, do a real study on both their films, and you'll find that it takes multiple viewings to really understand what their films are really about.
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1:21PM on 09/26/2013
No I got it on the first viewing and hate it more, the more I think about it. You see Inception has rules when they go into dreamland, I still care about the characters because they are in danger. Sucker Punch what are the rules? There are none, If a giant samurai kicks the shit out of you nothing happens it makes what happens in the fantasy mute, also Inception didn't have a million rape scenes like Sucker Punch.
No I got it on the first viewing and hate it more, the more I think about it. You see Inception has rules when they go into dreamland, I still care about the characters because they are in danger. Sucker Punch what are the rules? There are none, If a giant samurai kicks the shit out of you nothing happens it makes what happens in the fantasy mute, also Inception didn't have a million rape scenes like Sucker Punch.
8:54AM on 09/25/2013

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This column gone nuts
This column gone nuts
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8:45AM on 09/25/2013
I like it but it's a tad too long. They could cut out 30 minutes.
I like it but it's a tad too long. They could cut out 30 minutes.
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8:42AM on 09/25/2013
Isn't this the guy that hated on The Avengers and Dredd?
Isn't this the guy that hated on The Avengers and Dredd?
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8:37AM on 09/25/2013
I enjoyed the film for what it was, pure entertainment and I can understand what Snyder was trying to do and accomplish. It's not the best film in the world, but it's certainly not the worst I have ever seen. But I also have to say that it's my least favorite Snyder film with Watchmen and Man of Steel being my favorites.
I enjoyed the film for what it was, pure entertainment and I can understand what Snyder was trying to do and accomplish. It's not the best film in the world, but it's certainly not the worst I have ever seen. But I also have to say that it's my least favorite Snyder film with Watchmen and Man of Steel being my favorites.
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8:36AM on 09/25/2013

"While I agree that the film is full of plot-holes and nonsensical events that contradict each other, that should not distract from the overall enjoyment of the movie."

WTF?....Um....Huh?
WTF?....Um....Huh?
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8:38AM on 09/25/2013
Some people still enjoy films despite massive plot holes. Not everyone dwells on plot holes if they really enjoy the film for what it is.
Some people still enjoy films despite massive plot holes. Not everyone dwells on plot holes if they really enjoy the film for what it is.
8:59AM on 09/25/2013
What The-Soloist said.

Movies aren't meant to be viewed as scientific essays and judged solely based on logic. It's art and there are many factors that you can enjoy in a film. The structure of the plot is not the be all and end all of a movie.
What The-Soloist said.

Movies aren't meant to be viewed as scientific essays and judged solely based on logic. It's art and there are many factors that you can enjoy in a film. The structure of the plot is not the be all and end all of a movie.
11:56AM on 09/25/2013
The structure of the plot is very important to a movie. Otherwise people would be just making cool visuals that don't mean anything. This movie is trying to tell a story, and does so very poorly. If it was just a movie with cool visuals on screen, I get it. But there should be some sort of structure that ties the story into each other. Kubrick, Lynch all have made out of the box movies, but the movies that they make are complete and feel whole. Not disjointed and forced. Plot is very
The structure of the plot is very important to a movie. Otherwise people would be just making cool visuals that don't mean anything. This movie is trying to tell a story, and does so very poorly. If it was just a movie with cool visuals on screen, I get it. But there should be some sort of structure that ties the story into each other. Kubrick, Lynch all have made out of the box movies, but the movies that they make are complete and feel whole. Not disjointed and forced. Plot is very important for a movie like this. That's why it didn't do well in the theater.
3:43PM on 09/25/2013
No one said it's not important, we just said it's not the most important or the only important aspect of filmmaking. If the structure of the movie is so weak that it takes you out of the movie than it's obviously a big a problem, but it's not something that the filmmakers should focus mainly on. To me, the most important aspect is what this movie is about, who the characters are and a reason to care, then it's the visuals, music, etc. When it comes to plot holes I don't really pay that much
No one said it's not important, we just said it's not the most important or the only important aspect of filmmaking. If the structure of the movie is so weak that it takes you out of the movie than it's obviously a big a problem, but it's not something that the filmmakers should focus mainly on. To me, the most important aspect is what this movie is about, who the characters are and a reason to care, then it's the visuals, music, etc. When it comes to plot holes I don't really pay that much attention to them, I don't watch movies to look for them or in search of indesputable logic - I watch them to be entertained.
8:30AM on 09/25/2013
My problem with Sucker Punch isn't simply the weak narrative, nor the visual excess in and of itself. My problem with it is that it's boring. Halfway through the first set piece I get bored, and then find out that all the other set pieces are the same. Like Avatar, it's great to watch until the awe wears off, and you're left with a very weak narrative and a very disappointing ending. If you're going to go balls-to-the-wall, at least make it consistently fun.
My problem with Sucker Punch isn't simply the weak narrative, nor the visual excess in and of itself. My problem with it is that it's boring. Halfway through the first set piece I get bored, and then find out that all the other set pieces are the same. Like Avatar, it's great to watch until the awe wears off, and you're left with a very weak narrative and a very disappointing ending. If you're going to go balls-to-the-wall, at least make it consistently fun.
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8:14AM on 09/25/2013
It's one of my biggest guilty pleasures. I am aware of the criticism surrounding this movie, but I don't care... I love it.
It's one of my biggest guilty pleasures. I am aware of the criticism surrounding this movie, but I don't care... I love it.
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8:11AM on 09/25/2013
You're right. That is unpopular.
You're right. That is unpopular.
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8:06AM on 09/25/2013
This film was pretty much Zack Snyder saying "I can't decide what movie I'm going to make, so I'm going to make all of them, make it pretty depressing, and add tits." It's a waste of some pretty interesting and well-crafted visuals and I did like Scott Glenn as the "Charlie"-like (from Charlie's Angels) character. I thought most of the characters felt interchangeable and the "worlds within worlds" narrative conceit was handled very smugly. I'm all for crude jokes now and again, but the "Vanessa
This film was pretty much Zack Snyder saying "I can't decide what movie I'm going to make, so I'm going to make all of them, make it pretty depressing, and add tits." It's a waste of some pretty interesting and well-crafted visuals and I did like Scott Glenn as the "Charlie"-like (from Charlie's Angels) character. I thought most of the characters felt interchangeable and the "worlds within worlds" narrative conceit was handled very smugly. I'm all for crude jokes now and again, but the "Vanessa Hudgens' hole was wide" gag is in bad taste.
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8:03AM on 09/25/2013
I'm starting to get why everyone is always ragging on Maidy.
I'm starting to get why everyone is always ragging on Maidy.
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7:59AM on 09/25/2013

Fun, huh?

Maybe there's something wrong with me but I don't really consider a lobotomy or child abuse as fun.

What's more, technically it was decent, definitely not great. It used too much CGI and it felt way too flashy on an insufficient budget. I guess that was the point, since it was a fantasy world, but see, I don't like movies that are the character's fantasies. It takes some of the suspense out of the film, when I know it isn't real to the characters. Some might say, but Pan's Labyrinth was a
Maybe there's something wrong with me but I don't really consider a lobotomy or child abuse as fun.

What's more, technically it was decent, definitely not great. It used too much CGI and it felt way too flashy on an insufficient budget. I guess that was the point, since it was a fantasy world, but see, I don't like movies that are the character's fantasies. It takes some of the suspense out of the film, when I know it isn't real to the characters. Some might say, but Pan's Labyrinth was a child's fantasy, you surely loved that? To be honest? No, I didn't. I enjoyed it for the technical aspects, sure, and I liked the tone of that film - dark, creepy and mysterious. But that's the problem with these fantasy-based films, they constantly remind you it's fiction, while a movie, in my opinion, should make you forget it.

I'm not saying that this movie is garbage, it tries to have a message and it really is unique in a way, trying to visualize a mind of person who just needs a way to vent her frustrations and escape reality. I just don't agree with your opinion and my overall enjoyment was definitely low. It basically bummed me down after it bored me with overlong action scenes, rather than excite and entertain me.
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9:01AM on 09/25/2013
I don't think Pan's Labyrinth was supposed to be a dream-world. Unless the labyrinth was the real world.

To be honest though, that reminding you it's not real thing is something I have a problem with in Inception. They're supposed to not fall into their subconscious, but in a few regular hours they'll wake up anyway. So while the mission might be a bust, they should still be alive. I actually like the movie, but I don't feel like the characters are ever in as much danger as they seem to
I don't think Pan's Labyrinth was supposed to be a dream-world. Unless the labyrinth was the real world.

To be honest though, that reminding you it's not real thing is something I have a problem with in Inception. They're supposed to not fall into their subconscious, but in a few regular hours they'll wake up anyway. So while the mission might be a bust, they should still be alive. I actually like the movie, but I don't feel like the characters are ever in as much danger as they seem to think they are.
9:09AM on 09/25/2013
And that's what Pan's does better, it plays with that idea of dream and reality a bit more and it makes the movie a bit more suspensful because of it... and because of the creepy designs.

As for Inception, that wasn't one of the problems for me actually, and I had a few. Their lives only on rare occasions are in danger, or at least their sanity, but the tension comes from racing against the clock. It's a father's story and to me that's even more important than a fight for one's life. Now, if
And that's what Pan's does better, it plays with that idea of dream and reality a bit more and it makes the movie a bit more suspensful because of it... and because of the creepy designs.

As for Inception, that wasn't one of the problems for me actually, and I had a few. Their lives only on rare occasions are in danger, or at least their sanity, but the tension comes from racing against the clock. It's a father's story and to me that's even more important than a fight for one's life. Now, if only the movie had had better dialogue that would have been fantastic.
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