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The UnPopular Opinion: Suicide Squad

01.26.2017

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

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Everyone, it is time to stop shitting on the DC Extended Universe. Between the hate for MAN OF STEEL’s disaster porn and BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE’s lack of levity, fans have just been picking on Warner Bros. answer to Marvel Studios gargantuan franchise machine. It was always going to be difficult to follow Christopher Nolan’s acclaimed DARK KNIGHT trilogy, but it feels almost like people are getting hard-ons from picking apart Zack Snyder’s film work. I am by no means equating Snyder to Nolan, but to say that DC’s films have been failures is a broad generalization. This past summer, we got out first non-Snyder film in the DCEU canon in the form of David Ayer’s SUICIDE SQUAD and the response was just as luke warm as the films that preceded it. But, for all of the shortcomings I found with the finished product that was SUICIDE SQUAD, I enjoyed it for what it was.

And do we really need anything more than that? I am not suggesting we should embrace mediocrity, but do we need every superhero film or comic book adaptation to be the greatest film ever released? With the sheer volume of films out there based on iconic superheroes, can’t we just embrace the audacity of seeing our favorite characters immortalized in live action? SUICIDE SQUAD is a film that gives us a team of anti-heroes who have never graced the silver screen before with actors perfectly cast for their roles. And that is saying something because I have despised Jai Courtney in every film to this point and Captain Boomerang was a highlight of this movie. Like Marvel’s GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY, SUICIDE SQUAD is not your traditional superhero film. But, like James Gunn’s cosmic film, SUICIDE SQUAD works because it upends expectations and tries something different.

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In a recent social media post, writer/director David Ayer has expressed reservations regarding SUICIDE SQUAD and wishes he could have gone back and made changes to the finished film. Clearly, studio interference and fan reaction to BATMAN V SUPERMAN influenced the direction SUICIDE SQUAD took, but the film works more than it doesn’t and it paves the way for a different tone than we have seen thus far in the DCEU. The question we should ask ourselves after watching a movie is whether we enjoyed it and had fun. With SUICIDE SQUAD, the answer to both is yes. Maybe it is the oppositional side of me, but whereas I felt DEADPOOL got way more acclaim than it deserved, SUICIDE SQUAD has gotten more hate than it deserves. Yes, this movie has a weak villain and yes it feels tonally unbalanced, but it also gives us a crew of bad guys that together are more enjoyable to watch and better executed than any single nemesis from any Marvel film.

SUICIDE SQUAD came out at the perfect time in the DCEU as there will not be another film like it for a long time to come. Outside of Ayers’ announced GOTHAM CITY SIRENS, Warner Bros will not be doing much but JUSTICE LEAGUE tie-ins for the next several years. We will get GREEN LANTERN CORPS, sure, but that will be more to tie into the A-list DC heroes. We may not be lucky enough to get a sequel to SUICIDE SQUAD, but we absolutely should. There is so much material to mine with this crew of rejects, especially with the surface barely being scratched with Will Smith’s portrayal of Deadshot. SUICIDE SQUAD was designed as a showcase for Smith, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn and Jared Leto as The Joker. The rest of the squad were barely touched upon but I for one want to see more of Killer Croc and Boomerang along with Enchantress and Rick Flag. Hell, two hours of Viola Davis is more than enough to keep me engaged for the duration.

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And for all of the “controversy” and uproar about Jared Leto’s take on The Joker, it worked for me. It is unlike either Heath Ledger or Jack Nicholson’s take on the role but also fits perfectly into the mold the DCEU is setting forth. By the film’s end, I wanted to see so much more of Leto and that is a testament to his performance we did get to see. He is unhinged, crazy, over-the-top but at the same time scary enough to feel like a real threat. In the limited scenes shared with Ben Affleck’s Batman, you see the makings of a great face-off in a different film. SUICIDE SQUAD is then a much richer jumping off point for the DC cinematic franchise than BATMAN V SUPERMAN ever was. What makes SUICIDE SQUAD a success is the same thing that makes Ayers' other movies work: they are fun and they don't give a f*ck. Ayers pushes the PG-13 limit as far as he can and makes this movie more about action and being a live action comic book rather than making too much sense.

The extended cut released on Blu-ray feels even more disjointed than the theatrical version but manages to give us more of the Harley Quinn and Joker dynamic that was cut from the final edit. If this movie had been about the Squad fighting The Joker it would have fit more with the tone and style that Ayers was going for but that doesn't diminish from the successful aspects of this film. BATMAN V SUPERMAN's dour and dark approach is still clearly on display in this film but the sense of black humor needed to boost this fictional world is finally out in the open thanks to this movie. While only Will Smith and Margot Robbie could successfully hold their own features, the ensemble cast her clearly work well together and would be absolutely enjoyable a second time around. The goal would have to be finding a worthy opponent for them to face and that should absolutely be The Joker.

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SUICIDE SQUAD, now an Academy Award nominated film, is not a masterpiece. It may not even be the best DC film released in 2016, but it deserves much more recognition than it has gotten. There is a reason the film was a box office success and that is because fans want to watch a movie that they enjoy and do not feel the need for every feature to please everyone. This movie was never going to be an easy sell to mainstream audiences unfamiliar with the characters but it went on to be comparably as much of a hit as GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. That film has spawned a sequel of it's own and hopefully SUICIDE SQUAD will, too. This is a flawed film in many ways but also one that has gotten the jitters out and can relax. A second outing with this ragtag crew of killers can focus on being fun, violent, crass and bold in all the ways this first one was restrained from being. That will be a movie to see. Until then, I am more than willing to enjoy multiple visits to the hellish cells of Harley Quinn, Deadshot, Captain Boomerang, and Killer Croc.

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8:28AM on 01/27/2017
Suicide Squad was an okay film. I didn't care for Leto's take on The Joker, and the main villain was fairly dull (though her sidekick was more fun - reminded me of Ogre from the Tekken games), but I didn't feek massively short-changed by the experience. I don't see Will Smith as a definitive take on Deadshot either - thought it was odd casting in the first place and once you start changing a character to suit the actor you should really question whether they're the right person for the role.
Suicide Squad was an okay film. I didn't care for Leto's take on The Joker, and the main villain was fairly dull (though her sidekick was more fun - reminded me of Ogre from the Tekken games), but I didn't feek massively short-changed by the experience. I don't see Will Smith as a definitive take on Deadshot either - thought it was odd casting in the first place and once you start changing a character to suit the actor you should really question whether they're the right person for the role. Wasn't a terrible film though - look forward to seeing the extended edition but if it's mostly more Joker I'm not sure I'll consider it an improvement.
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1:07AM on 01/27/2017

Not my favorite movie, but ...

My personal issue with this (and all DCUE) is that they failed to meet expectations. The premise of a Dirty Dozen with DC villains is just too good to mess up. It's called Suicide Squad for a reason. Even the comics sent the team in its first mission to fight terrorism abroad, and with today's climate, that seemed like a no brainer. Just drop them half the world away to take down some super soldier program in Bialya or something... And all you do is show why they are DC villains in the first
My personal issue with this (and all DCUE) is that they failed to meet expectations. The premise of a Dirty Dozen with DC villains is just too good to mess up. It's called Suicide Squad for a reason. Even the comics sent the team in its first mission to fight terrorism abroad, and with today's climate, that seemed like a no brainer. Just drop them half the world away to take down some super soldier program in Bialya or something... And all you do is show why they are DC villains in the first place.

But the worst offense is that DC biggest bad The Joker has no influence on the movie. Take out the Joker from the film, and the movie ends the same way.
The Joker is like the Devil in the DC Universe, no matter what evil is around, his will be the most threatening.

This movie should've been special. Winter Soldier good.
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12:40AM on 01/27/2017

"especially with the surface barely being scratched"

That could describe the entire movie. It was just two hours of filler and they barely scratched any of the interesting stuff. It had the potential to be a great movie but demonstrated that it literally had no clue how to take advantage of that.
That could describe the entire movie. It was just two hours of filler and they barely scratched any of the interesting stuff. It had the potential to be a great movie but demonstrated that it literally had no clue how to take advantage of that.
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12:30AM on 01/27/2017

Nope

Straight up bad movie. It deserves all the hate it got and more. Why are you comparing this to marvel? Guardians of the galaxy is about a group of bad guys and is a much more competently made film. SS has a few fun parts but is a mess of a film. There is no accounting for taste but it's a straight up bad movie. Comparing SS to marvel is like comparing The Dark Knight to Spawn. One is clearly better, but there is no accounting for taste. Like whatever you want, but have some respect for the
Straight up bad movie. It deserves all the hate it got and more. Why are you comparing this to marvel? Guardians of the galaxy is about a group of bad guys and is a much more competently made film. SS has a few fun parts but is a mess of a film. There is no accounting for taste but it's a straight up bad movie. Comparing SS to marvel is like comparing The Dark Knight to Spawn. One is clearly better, but there is no accounting for taste. Like whatever you want, but have some respect for the medium, and stop encouraging pandering schlock like this.
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11:55PM on 01/26/2017
This move was bad, but for some reason it was good, i shall explain
this movie basically had the exact same problems that bvs did, bad editing, bad plot, etc, but the difference i believe is in the actors. Im sorry to say but Cavill and Affleck have very low screen presence and dont invoke anything in me when i see them on screen. Suicide squad had Will Smith and Margot Robbie. Even though Will Smith is on an obvious decline, he really did his job in squad by being the rock of the movie, and
This move was bad, but for some reason it was good, i shall explain
this movie basically had the exact same problems that bvs did, bad editing, bad plot, etc, but the difference i believe is in the actors. Im sorry to say but Cavill and Affleck have very low screen presence and dont invoke anything in me when i see them on screen. Suicide squad had Will Smith and Margot Robbie. Even though Will Smith is on an obvious decline, he really did his job in squad by being the rock of the movie, and robbie was just heavenly to watch as always. I feel sorry for Jared Leto actually cuz his joker, which is the most iconic screen villain of all time, came and went like a fart in the wind.
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11:33PM on 01/26/2017
My pitch for Suicide Squad 2

Amanda Waller sends the Suicide Squad against the Joker. The Joker and his gang defeat them easily because 1) they suck and 2) the Joker, like Batman, can defeat anyone if he has time to prepare. The Joker wants to kill the Suicide Squad but Harley Quinn convinces him not to. He has them sedated. Rick Flag escapes. He gets back in and talks to Harley Quinn. He tells Harley that Amanda Waller was going to let them all go free, including Quinn herself, if she
My pitch for Suicide Squad 2

Amanda Waller sends the Suicide Squad against the Joker. The Joker and his gang defeat them easily because 1) they suck and 2) the Joker, like Batman, can defeat anyone if he has time to prepare. The Joker wants to kill the Suicide Squad but Harley Quinn convinces him not to. He has them sedated. Rick Flag escapes. He gets back in and talks to Harley Quinn. He tells Harley that Amanda Waller was going to let them all go free, including Quinn herself, if she helps them take down the Joker. Harley says she won't betray her "Puddin". She warns the Joker that Rick Flag is back and Rick Flag gets captured by the Joker. The Joker is going to kill Rick Flag but Harley stops him. The Joker tells her that he is going to kill her and all her friends. Then the Justice League shows up. They make quick work of the Joker's gang.

With the Joker's gang and the Suicide Squad all back in custody, Rick Flag asks Amanda Waller to honor her deal. Amanda Waller coldly says that the Suicide Squad failed to stop the Joker and they had to send in the Justice League. Rick tells her that Harley saved his life when she stopped the Joker from killing him. Waller says she doesn't care.

One week later, a lawyer shows up at Amanda Waller's office. He says he is representing the members of the Suicide Squad. He shows her signed, witnessed affidavits from Superman and Wonder Woman to the effect that the Suicide Squad assisted them in bringing down the Joker and his gang. He tells her that, as per the terms of her arrangement with the Squad that they are all to be released. Amanda Waller tells him that the terms of their release are negotiable.

Rick Flag assembles the Suicide Squad. He tells them that they are under probation and that he has been assigned as their probation officer. They are not to leave Gotham City without his permission and they are to report to him every week. He tells them that they all have trackers so he'll know where they are at all times. They all try to move on and live ordinary lives. The end.
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8:47PM on 01/26/2017

please put this movie out of its misery

Omg! That 3rd act is the worst 3rd act in modern film history. And don't get me started on the rest of the issues. This is the type of comic book production we use to try and justify before everyone except DC movies figured out how to make good Entertainment around comics.
Omg! That 3rd act is the worst 3rd act in modern film history. And don't get me started on the rest of the issues. This is the type of comic book production we use to try and justify before everyone except DC movies figured out how to make good Entertainment around comics.
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7:22PM on 01/26/2017
I'll be the first to say that DC probably has better, more iconic superheroes than Marvel. They certainly come with more mythic backstories. And they have al those awesome animated movies to brag on. But somewhere along the way, in a post-Nolan world, trying to bring these characters to the screen has been difficult from the start.

This could have happened to Marvel, too. In fact, outside of Iron Man, their first few movies were not universally loved. Then came The Avengers, Captain America:
I'll be the first to say that DC probably has better, more iconic superheroes than Marvel. They certainly come with more mythic backstories. And they have al those awesome animated movies to brag on. But somewhere along the way, in a post-Nolan world, trying to bring these characters to the screen has been difficult from the start.

This could have happened to Marvel, too. In fact, outside of Iron Man, their first few movies were not universally loved. Then came The Avengers, Captain America: Winter Soldier, and Guardians of the Galaxy. I don't like having to compare the two because I think they can both be good quality franchises. I just don't think that the cinematic DCEU has put in the work in the script process. Yes, after years of Marvel, we needed something different. But something that felt like the makers know where they are going with this.
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7:21PM on 01/26/2017
In a year of awful movies like Independence Day Resurgence and Gods of Egypt, I have no idea how Suicide Squad could get so much hate. Maybe it's because expectations were so high, and I'll admit I enjoyed the film but was a bit disappointed after the great trailers.
However, I watched it a second time on blu-ray and enjoyed it more the second time around. The first act still feels like a mess and there are some valid complaints about Enchantress and some of the Joker scenes (the scene of him
In a year of awful movies like Independence Day Resurgence and Gods of Egypt, I have no idea how Suicide Squad could get so much hate. Maybe it's because expectations were so high, and I'll admit I enjoyed the film but was a bit disappointed after the great trailers.
However, I watched it a second time on blu-ray and enjoyed it more the second time around. The first act still feels like a mess and there are some valid complaints about Enchantress and some of the Joker scenes (the scene of him in the club should have been cut, his other scenes are actually fine), but it's an entertaining and fun film. I like that it brought something new to the comic book film genre, as opposed to something like Doctor Strange which was a standard MCU origin story plot.
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7:06PM on 01/26/2017
The disappointing thing about the movie - apart from handing Michael J Fox a machete and putting him in an editing suite - is that you can see a better movie trying to fight its way out from under a ton of studio-mandated changes.
The disappointing thing about the movie - apart from handing Michael J Fox a machete and putting him in an editing suite - is that you can see a better movie trying to fight its way out from under a ton of studio-mandated changes.
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12:02AM on 01/27/2017
Are you trying to be like Family Guy by making fun of Fox or are you just being a jerk?...Making fun of him for something that he has that is beyond his control. You're a swell dude.
Are you trying to be like Family Guy by making fun of Fox or are you just being a jerk?...Making fun of him for something that he has that is beyond his control. You're a swell dude.
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6:49PM on 01/26/2017
Smh... people still trying defend this piece of shit movie. Movie was garbage.
Smh... people still trying defend this piece of shit movie. Movie was garbage.
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5:29PM on 01/26/2017

Mmmmmmm.... I don't know

If you want to get absolutely real on this, the reasons this movie was a critical failure (not a box office one) are:
Will Smith's character talking all Hispanic slang speech to El Diablo was pandering and weird
Harley Quinn has no business being there. She has a bat. She has no super powers and is psychiatrist one second and a gun toting brawler the next. Every single trained military person surrounding her was more qualified than her to take on a supernatural threat. She was cute but
If you want to get absolutely real on this, the reasons this movie was a critical failure (not a box office one) are:
Will Smith's character talking all Hispanic slang speech to El Diablo was pandering and weird
Harley Quinn has no business being there. She has a bat. She has no super powers and is psychiatrist one second and a gun toting brawler the next. Every single trained military person surrounding her was more qualified than her to take on a supernatural threat. She was cute but useless.
The Joker was just weird. He wasn't menacing or scary. He acted like someone would act if they tried to play the Joker. Leto got very full of himself and went method and the outtakes showed just how weird and awkward that was for everyone involved.
The crocodile dude was one gigantic black stereotype and it was kind of offensive. Also, I get he looks like a crocodile but he is human. If you feed him a skinned uncooked goat that's been dumped in prison water, you'll probably die of some horrible stomach infection.
These are just a few tiny little problems. There are a ton more. Moments, actors, props, motivations all take you out of the movie throughout the movie. It was too much to turn your brain off.
However, it did well in the theaters for the following reasons:
Great design
Cool Sountrack
Super heroes
Explosions
The appearance of the Joker
Merchandise - All the little girls want to look like Harley and all the nerds want a screaming Jared Leto on their shirts and fake tattoos.
If you really want to be honest, be honest. Amirite?
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4:41PM on 01/26/2017
By defending this as "enjoying it for what it was" are you not negating the purpose of this column? Films that were either loved or hated there is no gray area. The purpose is not defending everything in between, that is not an unpopular opinion to say well it really isn't that bad. Most would feel that way, including me. I thought it was OK, but did not care for Leto's Joker.
By defending this as "enjoying it for what it was" are you not negating the purpose of this column? Films that were either loved or hated there is no gray area. The purpose is not defending everything in between, that is not an unpopular opinion to say well it really isn't that bad. Most would feel that way, including me. I thought it was OK, but did not care for Leto's Joker.
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4:33PM on 01/26/2017

I think the reason it's so disliked....

is because it was actually pretty good until the moment the lost Waller and went into the bar. Everything after that scene was terrible, The film was utterly anti-climatic and fairly laughable (other than El Diablo's fight which was unexpected and kind of cool). So you have a film that could be graded as a positive until the last 20 or 30 minutes, but when you leave the theater, all you can think about was how stupid Delevigne looked doing the magic Macarena and the silliness of Harley saving
is because it was actually pretty good until the moment the lost Waller and went into the bar. Everything after that scene was terrible, The film was utterly anti-climatic and fairly laughable (other than El Diablo's fight which was unexpected and kind of cool). So you have a film that could be graded as a positive until the last 20 or 30 minutes, but when you leave the theater, all you can think about was how stupid Delevigne looked doing the magic Macarena and the silliness of Harley saving them that way.

That's why people are so universally critical of it, and I doubt they will ever change their minds. I bought the DVD and find myself avoiding watching it again, even when I'm desperately looking for something to kill time. If the ending had even been mediocre I'd consider it a decent movie, but it was so bad that it spoiled the whole thing for me. It's a shame because Will Smith really won me over as Deadshot and Robbie really surprised me with her take on Harley.
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4:21PM on 01/26/2017
I loved Suicide Squad and I for one am a huge fan of the dark depressing tones of the DCEU films. Being a superhero is not all bubblegum and rainbows.
I loved Suicide Squad and I for one am a huge fan of the dark depressing tones of the DCEU films. Being a superhero is not all bubblegum and rainbows.
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3:45PM on 01/26/2017
"fans have just been picking on Warner Bros."

If it were just fans complaining, or just film critics, you could defend the films but when both groups agree, you have to conclude that the films are just bad.

And it's way too easy to blame the reception on a Marvel bias. I think Batman is the greatest superhero ever created, I think Joker is the best villain, that Batman: The Animated Series is the greatest superhero TV show live or animated ever made and I consider The Dark Knight the
"fans have just been picking on Warner Bros."

If it were just fans complaining, or just film critics, you could defend the films but when both groups agree, you have to conclude that the films are just bad.

And it's way too easy to blame the reception on a Marvel bias. I think Batman is the greatest superhero ever created, I think Joker is the best villain, that Batman: The Animated Series is the greatest superhero TV show live or animated ever made and I consider The Dark Knight the best superhero film ever (with Batman Begins not that far behind). I should be the perfect audience for the film and yet, it feels as if my love for the source material is constantly used against me.

I was excited about Suicide Squad. I really wanted to like the film. I love Margot Robbie, I love Will Smith and I was open to Leto's interpretation of the Joker. But WB's problem remain: they try really hard to be cool but they don't focus enough on telling a compelling, coherent story.
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3:44PM on 01/26/2017

Stop defending this POS. It's forgettable, the CGI is horrible, and its sloppy.

I can get behind BvS as having redeeming qualities, but this is not the case for Suicide Squad. In another movie with a proper plot, the actors cast here might be okay, but not in this movie, not facing that CGI Egyptian villain with whatever vacuum world-ending device he created. This movie makes no sense and the addition of face tattoos is unnecessary even if it get's David Ayer excited.
I can get behind BvS as having redeeming qualities, but this is not the case for Suicide Squad. In another movie with a proper plot, the actors cast here might be okay, but not in this movie, not facing that CGI Egyptian villain with whatever vacuum world-ending device he created. This movie makes no sense and the addition of face tattoos is unnecessary even if it get's David Ayer excited.
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3:42PM on 01/26/2017
You can try all you like to justify this movie being "ok" , but it wasn't. It was pure bilge!
You can try all you like to justify this movie being "ok" , but it wasn't. It was pure bilge!
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3:41PM on 01/26/2017

liked it

The problem of good or bad really has never been a DCU problem. The problem has been meeting expectations. When I go into a movie knowing its bad my expectations arent much, and if you exceed those expectations I'm a happy camper. (Think Sharnado, you expect a 3 and when you get a 4 you're happy) But DC keeps promising us 10's and they've yet to hit the mark. Although I dont think a single Marvel movie has hit the levels of the Nolan Batman Trilogy, for me personally, they've delivered
The problem of good or bad really has never been a DCU problem. The problem has been meeting expectations. When I go into a movie knowing its bad my expectations arent much, and if you exceed those expectations I'm a happy camper. (Think Sharnado, you expect a 3 and when you get a 4 you're happy) But DC keeps promising us 10's and they've yet to hit the mark. Although I dont think a single Marvel movie has hit the levels of the Nolan Batman Trilogy, for me personally, they've delivered across the board. When we talk about them as a whole, are you going to proclaim DC the winner who might have a few 10's then delivers mostly 5's or are you gonna claim Marvel who mostly has 8's & 9's for almost every movie. I liked Suicide Squad but again, I was expecting an 8 or 9 and when they delivered a 6 it fell short of my expectations.
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6:04PM on 01/26/2017
Interesting that you bring up SHARKNADO. The first 3 installments received better reviews than SUICIDE SQUAD.
Interesting that you bring up SHARKNADO. The first 3 installments received better reviews than SUICIDE SQUAD.
3:39PM on 01/26/2017

"I enjoyed it for what it was."

Ah yes, the common refrain of people trying to defend a movie they know is shitty.
Ah yes, the common refrain of people trying to defend a movie they know is shitty.
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2:53PM on 01/26/2017

I liked it.

Suicide Squad was flawed, but I still put it above the comic book movies I truly consider to be bad like X-Men Origins: Wolverine, or even the mediocre ones like X-Men III and Spider-Man 3.
Suicide Squad was flawed, but I still put it above the comic book movies I truly consider to be bad like X-Men Origins: Wolverine, or even the mediocre ones like X-Men III and Spider-Man 3.
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2:22PM on 01/26/2017

Take The Joker out and the movie is OK

But to defend Leto's portrayal of The Joker is abismal!

The character, while, crazy, still has an enigmatic charisma, and is not an emo douchebag who holds a job as a Club owner! Terrible choice.. terrible costume, and where was that high-pitched, comical, over-the-top voice that occasionally stoops down to a slight growl? The Dude f*cking purred! WtF??
But to defend Leto's portrayal of The Joker is abismal!

The character, while, crazy, still has an enigmatic charisma, and is not an emo douchebag who holds a job as a Club owner! Terrible choice.. terrible costume, and where was that high-pitched, comical, over-the-top voice that occasionally stoops down to a slight growl? The Dude f*cking purred! WtF??
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12:55PM on 01/26/2017
This was a pretty decent flick.
If I didn't have to fast forward half of the movie, I would've enjoyed BvS more.
This was a pretty decent flick.
If I didn't have to fast forward half of the movie, I would've enjoyed BvS more.
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12:10PM on 01/26/2017
I like it. I just don't like the actual plot that got the Suicide Squad assembled.
I like it. I just don't like the actual plot that got the Suicide Squad assembled.
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11:37AM on 01/26/2017

Nope.

I'm actually a DCEU defender. I also believe that there IS bias towards the MCU. No, not conspiracy theories like paid critics and shit like that, but a bias all the same. I think people simply give Marvel a pass because they won favor in the Comic Book game.
I loved MOS and I will defend BvS until the day I die. BvS (the ultimate cut) to me, is a comic book movie masterpiece.
But Suicide Squad? Nope, can't do it. It's an awkwardly paced affair with far too many characters doing nothing. The
I'm actually a DCEU defender. I also believe that there IS bias towards the MCU. No, not conspiracy theories like paid critics and shit like that, but a bias all the same. I think people simply give Marvel a pass because they won favor in the Comic Book game.
I loved MOS and I will defend BvS until the day I die. BvS (the ultimate cut) to me, is a comic book movie masterpiece.
But Suicide Squad? Nope, can't do it. It's an awkwardly paced affair with far too many characters doing nothing. The soundtrack is laughably forced and cringe-inducing, 90% of the action is shapeless and boring and the overall plot does little to garner interest.
It has a few positives. Robbie as Harley Quinn is awesome and I enjoyed Will Smith as Deadshot even if he was a little too Will Smithy at times. And I do like how the film introduces a lot of material in the DCEU that can be explored further. Other than that I have to agree with the majority on this one. Suicide Squad sucks.
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11:36AM on 01/26/2017
No, it's not time to stop picking on WB and DC. It's time to press them until they get this right. The majority has spoken how they feel about DC's movies. The thing is, Nolan got it right, Snyder and Ayer did not. Marvel has shown that consistency in good quality is possible. Suicide Squad is a good example of issues facing DC and what they need to fix to make their file.s better. At best, Suicide Squad is mediocre. Look at Suicide Squad vs. Avengers and see why Avengers works so well as an
No, it's not time to stop picking on WB and DC. It's time to press them until they get this right. The majority has spoken how they feel about DC's movies. The thing is, Nolan got it right, Snyder and Ayer did not. Marvel has shown that consistency in good quality is possible. Suicide Squad is a good example of issues facing DC and what they need to fix to make their file.s better. At best, Suicide Squad is mediocre. Look at Suicide Squad vs. Avengers and see why Avengers works so well as an ensemble film vs. Suicide squad and why it doesn't. We should stop forgiving this mediocrity when we see similar films that work far better and are actually good.
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11:35AM on 01/26/2017

Enjoyed it.

While I disagree with Leto's take on the Joker, I loved the film. Every comic film doesn't need to be groundbreaking.
While I disagree with Leto's take on the Joker, I loved the film. Every comic film doesn't need to be groundbreaking.
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11:13AM on 01/26/2017
Suicide Squad really isn't the bad film that most people tend to label it as. I liked how it was gritty, fun with some dark humor thrown in now and then, and just overall different. I'll admit though that the film comes across better the second and/or third time you watch it.

Just like Dawn of Justice, the extended cut is superior to the theatrical version and gives the film a little bit more depth all around. I liked the creativity that went into the intro in introducing all of the
Suicide Squad really isn't the bad film that most people tend to label it as. I liked how it was gritty, fun with some dark humor thrown in now and then, and just overall different. I'll admit though that the film comes across better the second and/or third time you watch it.

Just like Dawn of Justice, the extended cut is superior to the theatrical version and gives the film a little bit more depth all around. I liked the creativity that went into the intro in introducing all of the characters and thought that was a nice touch to comic book fans who may have not have been familiar with some of the members of the Suicide Squad.

But the story was fine (I thought the extended cut fixed most of the pacing issues from the theatrical version) and everyone was cast perfectly in my opinion; even though it would have been nice to see more backstory on Katana, Captain Boomerang, and especially more of those cut scenes of the Joker. And even though most people disliked Leto's performance as the Joker, I just don't think he was given enough screen time and material to really make that much of an impact yet like Nicholson, and Ledger did. I'm assuming he will pop up in Affleck's solo Batman film, so I'm sure he'll have a much bigger storyline in that one to really flesh out the character more and given the incredible, gifted method actor he is, I think he has the potential to be the best Joker that we have seen so far in live action considering the potential of storylines and his chance to grow as the character in this new extended, shared universe. But the whole cast did a great job in all of their roles and DC and Ayer couldn't have picked a better actress to play Harley Quinn who came across like she had just stepped out of the pages of the comic books.

The film isn't perfect, but I don't think it deserves all the criticism it has been receiving as well. People just need to stop comparing every Marvel film to every DC film at this point. I like how each universe and their characters are different from each other; if they were similar like some fans want them to be, how boring and redundant would that be?!?!
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11:11AM on 01/26/2017
Good write up. I enjoyed Suicide Squad as well, it reminded me of an over the top 80s action film. The film over all worked for me even with the flaws. There's things that I definitely would change but it is what it is and its a enjoyable film. I really liked Leto's joker and I'm glad he's going to be taking up the role again.
Good write up. I enjoyed Suicide Squad as well, it reminded me of an over the top 80s action film. The film over all worked for me even with the flaws. There's things that I definitely would change but it is what it is and its a enjoyable film. I really liked Leto's joker and I'm glad he's going to be taking up the role again.
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11:03AM on 01/26/2017

Totally agree.

Despite some MAJOR flaws, (Climbing Guy, WAY too many helicopter crashes, trying desperately to make Deadshot a good guy) I enjoy the hell out of this movie and it has become one that I throw on for some good fun whenever I need it. Making Jai Courtney come of the way he does in it is nothing short of a miracle and I want to see much more of him, Croc and Diablo though I guess that ain't happening.
Despite some MAJOR flaws, (Climbing Guy, WAY too many helicopter crashes, trying desperately to make Deadshot a good guy) I enjoy the hell out of this movie and it has become one that I throw on for some good fun whenever I need it. Making Jai Courtney come of the way he does in it is nothing short of a miracle and I want to see much more of him, Croc and Diablo though I guess that ain't happening.
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11:01AM on 01/26/2017
Unfortunately the down side to movies in this day in age is that you can't escape other peoples amplified opinions. With all of the different ways to obtain information now, it's always in your face. Someone's always shitting on something you love, and yes, even Marvel is victim to his. A lot of people shit on The Avengers sequel. A lot of people shit on Spiderman too... a LOT. Hate is everywhere. Luckily this movie made plenty of cash, I'd like to see more.
Unfortunately the down side to movies in this day in age is that you can't escape other peoples amplified opinions. With all of the different ways to obtain information now, it's always in your face. Someone's always shitting on something you love, and yes, even Marvel is victim to his. A lot of people shit on The Avengers sequel. A lot of people shit on Spiderman too... a LOT. Hate is everywhere. Luckily this movie made plenty of cash, I'd like to see more.
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10:41AM on 01/26/2017
SUICIDE SQUAD; BATMAN V SUPERMAN - 6/10
MAN OF STEEL - 5/10
DARK KNIGHT trilogy - 8/10
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY; DEADPOOL - 9/10

For those who are interested, here's my written review of SUICIDE SQUAD (I'll upload the video review before Wednesday): [link]
SUICIDE SQUAD; BATMAN V SUPERMAN - 6/10
MAN OF STEEL - 5/10
DARK KNIGHT trilogy - 8/10
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY; DEADPOOL - 9/10

For those who are interested, here's my written review of SUICIDE SQUAD (I'll upload the video review before Wednesday): [link]
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