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The Winter Soldier takes aim at Zack Snyder and fires back with his own shot

09.18.2015

All has been quiet on the Marvel front as it pertains to the superhero turf war Zack Snyder and his DC brethren over at Warner Bros. woud love to start in order to attract more attention to the connected universe they're building. Rivalries always generate interest for both sides, but when one side won't engage, you don't really have much.

Enter Sebastian Stan, the first combatant to enter the battlefield on behalf of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

After hearing Snyder's diss on the MCU and particularly ANT-MAN, the Winter Soldier took a deep breath, took precise aim and fired his own shot back at the BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE director and... once you read it, you have to admit - this grazing flesh wound is sure to sting a bit.

Yeah, I’m sitting here and I’m listening to you and I’m thinking, “Do I want to fire some shots at DC right now, at Zack Snyder?” I read some of those comments where he said something about Batman and Superman, I can’t remember where I read that, somewhere… Something about, “It’s not going to be your flavor-of-the-week Ant-Man.” And I was like, “Oh thanks, Zack. That’s great. Way to do something original.” But I would say we’re still making something very original in our own way. I mean, the Russos are coming in and taking something people are used to and they’re shaping it up and changing it in a very different way. They’re not trying to mimic a better Christopher Nolan movie or something like that.

Oooohhh... burn. As they say on the playground or the courts or somewhere that I can't quite pinpoint but know exists for sure, it's on like Donkey Kong.

Your turn, Mr. Snyder.

How long before this deteriorates into "Your mom" cracks? It's only a matter of time, right?

Sebastian Stan can next be seen in THE MARTIAN as of October 2, but CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, which will forward the DC/Marvel battle for superhero supremacy will drop on May 6, 2016.

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10:26AM on 09/21/2015

LET THEM FIGHT

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10:27AM on 09/21/2015
Screwed that up. Tried to link to the GIF from Godzilla where Ken Watanabe says "Let them fight". Oh well.
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Screwed that up. Tried to link to the GIF from Godzilla where Ken Watanabe says "Let them fight". Oh well.
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4:41PM on 09/20/2015

Can he even read?

You have to ask yourself if he can even read. All Snyder said was that compared to Batman and Superman, Ant-Man won't be remembered over many many decades.And of course he is correct. He wasn't even talking about the Ant-Man movie, but the character himself.
You have to ask yourself if he can even read. All Snyder said was that compared to Batman and Superman, Ant-Man won't be remembered over many many decades.And of course he is correct. He wasn't even talking about the Ant-Man movie, but the character himself.
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2:34PM on 09/19/2015

lame

very lame.
very lame.
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9:02AM on 09/19/2015
Why is this writer writing his article like ones from comicbookmovie.com? I visit Joblo to get away from that bullshit!
Why is this writer writing his article like ones from comicbookmovie.com? I visit Joblo to get away from that bullshit!
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7:32AM on 09/19/2015
Don't fuck with Buck...
Don't fuck with Buck...
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6:26AM on 09/19/2015

NAIL ON THE HEAD

Good for him. Someone should just come out and say it. Prior to Man of Steel (and from the looks of it BvS) Snyder always had his own look and style. But it seems as though he's just imitating Nolan now. Which is not a good thing for the DC Universe. It's fine for Batman, BUT BATMAN IS NOT THE DC UNIVERSE - He's a PART of it. Dark and gritty is one single character, one single entity of the Justice League...IT IS NOT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE OR SUPERMAN FOR THAT MATTER. I want to believe, but this is
Good for him. Someone should just come out and say it. Prior to Man of Steel (and from the looks of it BvS) Snyder always had his own look and style. But it seems as though he's just imitating Nolan now. Which is not a good thing for the DC Universe. It's fine for Batman, BUT BATMAN IS NOT THE DC UNIVERSE - He's a PART of it. Dark and gritty is one single character, one single entity of the Justice League...IT IS NOT THE JUSTICE LEAGUE OR SUPERMAN FOR THAT MATTER. I want to believe, but this is ultimately Warner Bros. we are talking about and they lost my faith after the failure of the first Superman franchise, the first Batman franchise, Steel, Catwoman, and the failure of a SECOND Superman franchise (Superman Returns). This is not just Snyder's fault. I think he will ultimately be blamed, and that's a shame, but at the same time it's his own fault at this point.
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3:07AM on 09/19/2015
Meh not impressed when the professionals try to talk smack, leave that shit to the idiotic fanboys.
Meh not impressed when the professionals try to talk smack, leave that shit to the idiotic fanboys.
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11:00PM on 09/18/2015
Snap! That's got to burn, Mr. Snyder.
Snap! That's got to burn, Mr. Snyder.
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9:07PM on 09/18/2015

Childish banter... possibly to increase interest through perceived conflict.

This is as ridiculous as the battle between Star Wars and Star Trek. We CAN love both. Listening to actors, directors and producers bicker like a bunch of grade school kids is not helping either one of their causes. Just make the best movie you can make. If it's a hit, great. If it sucks, try again. Stop worrying about what the other guy's doing.
This is as ridiculous as the battle between Star Wars and Star Trek. We CAN love both. Listening to actors, directors and producers bicker like a bunch of grade school kids is not helping either one of their causes. Just make the best movie you can make. If it's a hit, great. If it sucks, try again. Stop worrying about what the other guy's doing.
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6:21AM on 09/19/2015
Its hardly childish Banter. The idea that they are bickering is given by the media. An interviewer probably asked the guys what they thought and they gave a response.
Its hardly childish Banter. The idea that they are bickering is given by the media. An interviewer probably asked the guys what they thought and they gave a response.
6:54PM on 09/18/2015
I think Sebastian Stan is quite justified in his response. Thought it was a very stupid move by Snyder, especially as BvsS hasnt even been released yet, and if he thought that Man of Steel was enough of a foundation to start picking at other peoples movies. Well that not only makes his comments stupid, but kinda comes across as arrogant and very douchey.
I think Sebastian Stan is quite justified in his response. Thought it was a very stupid move by Snyder, especially as BvsS hasnt even been released yet, and if he thought that Man of Steel was enough of a foundation to start picking at other peoples movies. Well that not only makes his comments stupid, but kinda comes across as arrogant and very douchey.
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6:42PM on 09/18/2015

heh

The funny thing is i want them both to do well and succeed. I mean lets be honest here the more kick ass comic book movies there are the more the fans of those movies will be entertained.
The funny thing is i want them both to do well and succeed. I mean lets be honest here the more kick ass comic book movies there are the more the fans of those movies will be entertained.
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5:41PM on 09/18/2015

At least you didn't rant unabashedly about the superiority of Marvel like the other writer

Also, what a bunch of sad Twilight virgins you all sound like.
Again, competition for better films is good for movie lovers.
Also, what a bunch of sad Twilight virgins you all sound like.
Again, competition for better films is good for movie lovers.
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5:10PM on 09/18/2015
The problem with DC is that it is floating by entirely on the good will Nolan has rightfully earned from fans. WB, using Nolan's name (despite his lack of involvement), was able to make a film as bad as Man of Steel and still maintain some fan support. That's pretty powerful mojo, but that cloud of blind good will isn't going to last forever.
The problem with DC is that it is floating by entirely on the good will Nolan has rightfully earned from fans. WB, using Nolan's name (despite his lack of involvement), was able to make a film as bad as Man of Steel and still maintain some fan support. That's pretty powerful mojo, but that cloud of blind good will isn't going to last forever.
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6:25PM on 09/18/2015
Agreed! Also DC is relying on characters that are guaranteed to sell tickets regardless if the movies are actually good. Even if the movie gets terrible reviews, I'm still going to see BvS. Marvel is taking risks with franchises like Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy and because of that they have to make sure they are made with a certain level of quality.
Agreed! Also DC is relying on characters that are guaranteed to sell tickets regardless if the movies are actually good. Even if the movie gets terrible reviews, I'm still going to see BvS. Marvel is taking risks with franchises like Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy and because of that they have to make sure they are made with a certain level of quality.
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4:45PM on 09/18/2015
I can't wait to read the crappy reviews for Batman v Superman.
I can't wait to read the crappy reviews for Batman v Superman.
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4:25PM on 09/18/2015
Whatever, let them bicker. Competition is good for us consumers. They'll constantly try to one up each other making better movies for us :) I respect the Marvel universe... great movies, but I just like the DC universe better.
Whatever, let them bicker. Competition is good for us consumers. They'll constantly try to one up each other making better movies for us :) I respect the Marvel universe... great movies, but I just like the DC universe better.
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4:18PM on 09/18/2015

Marvel's Word of The Day "Mimic"

Oh yes, because Marvel's imitation of "Three days of the Condor" was soooooooo "ORIGINAL."

"Civil War will be darker" - Elizabeth Olsen
I hate DC 'cause it's darker and serious - Fanboys.

The Winter Soldier - Serious and dark tones
Snyder & Nolan's style - Serious and dark tones

Mandarin, not actually the real villain.
Batman Begins, Ra's Al Ghul.

Also... Marvel mimicking... Marvel?
Ant-Man/Iron Man
Villain takes over company
Villain clones Hero's suit
Villain tries to kill
Oh yes, because Marvel's imitation of "Three days of the Condor" was soooooooo "ORIGINAL."

"Civil War will be darker" - Elizabeth Olsen
I hate DC 'cause it's darker and serious - Fanboys.

The Winter Soldier - Serious and dark tones
Snyder & Nolan's style - Serious and dark tones

Mandarin, not actually the real villain.
Batman Begins, Ra's Al Ghul.

Also... Marvel mimicking... Marvel?
Ant-Man/Iron Man
Villain takes over company
Villain clones Hero's suit
Villain tries to kill the Hero
Villains both bald

Let's have a Two-Part Justice League
Let's split our Avengers: Infinity War
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5:05PM on 09/18/2015
Whoa, did you lump Snyder & Nolan together? That's like lumping Bay & Hitchcock together. Nolan's Batman films were good, even great films. Snyder's Superman was poorly written, poorly directed garbage. Snyder is like an emo version of Bay. Synder thinks heavy handed exposition is character development for crying out loud.

Also, dark and serious does not mean that a film has to be overbearingly distraught. It does not mean that a film has to have its nose up its own asshole. Man of Steel
Whoa, did you lump Snyder & Nolan together? That's like lumping Bay & Hitchcock together. Nolan's Batman films were good, even great films. Snyder's Superman was poorly written, poorly directed garbage. Snyder is like an emo version of Bay. Synder thinks heavy handed exposition is character development for crying out loud.

Also, dark and serious does not mean that a film has to be overbearingly distraught. It does not mean that a film has to have its nose up its own asshole. Man of Steel simply wasn't an enjoyable movie (on top of being a complete mess). A film like Mad Max: Fury Road got it right. It was very dark, and treated it's insane world very serious, but it is widely considered one of the most enjoyable films of the year (which I agree with).
6:23PM on 09/18/2015
Mr. Moe hit it on the nose.

But to add to that:

I think dodong27 is missing the point of originality. Snyder seemed to be saying that their is a grandeur to characters like Batman and Superman, (Because they are the most well known and popular superheroes they somehow have more importance than say Ant-man) Marvel is doing something original in a sense that they are exploring these lessor known characters, fleshing them out, and making them more interesting, than say batman superman,
Mr. Moe hit it on the nose.

But to add to that:

I think dodong27 is missing the point of originality. Snyder seemed to be saying that their is a grandeur to characters like Batman and Superman, (Because they are the most well known and popular superheroes they somehow have more importance than say Ant-man) Marvel is doing something original in a sense that they are exploring these lessor known characters, fleshing them out, and making them more interesting, than say batman superman, because they are new to a lot of people. DC is relying on characters that have been done so many times before. there are countless shows and movies about batman and superman. ironman was such a surprise because it felt like something we hadn't seen yet. Marvel is taking risks with unknown characters like Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy and its refreshing to audiences to be given something new.
4:13PM on 09/18/2015
For starters, Sebastian Stan saying this is a lot different than Kevin Feige or the Russos saying this. He's not even one of the leads in the Marvel-verse yet. But if someone trash-talked my franchise, and I had a good comeback, then I'd probably use it. I do hope it doesn't get much more heated than this. Especially on Marvel's side, since they've got less to prove.
For starters, Sebastian Stan saying this is a lot different than Kevin Feige or the Russos saying this. He's not even one of the leads in the Marvel-verse yet. But if someone trash-talked my franchise, and I had a good comeback, then I'd probably use it. I do hope it doesn't get much more heated than this. Especially on Marvel's side, since they've got less to prove.
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4:10PM on 09/18/2015
Winter Soldier vs DCCU!!!
Winter Soldier vs DCCU!!!
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4:05PM on 09/18/2015
The Winter Solider was a huge letdown. Russo bros aren't doing much, they just throw in some libertarian scary big gov't shit and a third act that's a mindless explosion sequence. All these new Marvel films just look like Avengers 1.5 and 2.5. The new Captain America has like everybody else in it, instead of focusing on the title character. Although Zack Snyder's films are terrible...

Two junk franchises dissing each other.
The Winter Solider was a huge letdown. Russo bros aren't doing much, they just throw in some libertarian scary big gov't shit and a third act that's a mindless explosion sequence. All these new Marvel films just look like Avengers 1.5 and 2.5. The new Captain America has like everybody else in it, instead of focusing on the title character. Although Zack Snyder's films are terrible...

Two junk franchises dissing each other.
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4:18PM on 09/18/2015
I think you are in the minority on that one!
I think you are in the minority on that one!
4:47PM on 09/18/2015
Yep. Definitely the minority.
Yep. Definitely the minority.
9:29PM on 09/18/2015
love it when people have to tell us about their sad little opinion like its the voice of every one.
love it when people have to tell us about their sad little opinion like its the voice of every one.
6:27AM on 09/19/2015
Troll moron.
Troll moron.
3:56PM on 09/18/2015
I think they just fire these insults for the publicity of it, not what the really think. I liked Man of Steel and although Winter Soldier was better in my opinion, I can't wait for BvS and Civil War.
I think they just fire these insults for the publicity of it, not what the really think. I liked Man of Steel and although Winter Soldier was better in my opinion, I can't wait for BvS and Civil War.
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