Latest Entertainment News Headlines

Thor: The Dark World director Alan Taylor talks reshoots, rumors, and fan love for Loki

08.12.2013by:

During the Disney D23Expo, director Alan Taylor talked about his first big studio feature film, THOR: THE DARK WORLD, addressing reshoots, rumors of a longer cut, his issue with the music, and just how involved Marvel is with the overall editing of their films. Taylor, a veteran director of HBO's Game of Thrones, also discussed THOR: THE DARK WORLD's impact on his directing duties there.

On where they're at in terms of completing THOR: THE DARK WORLD:

"We're in the crazy, chicken running around with its head cut off phase, which I think is not an uncommon procedure at Marvel. They're amazing. They will work down to the wire. Kevin Feige is always trying to make the film better, seeing if he can push it up. I saw them do it on Iron Man 3, The Avengers. It's like they sort of have to pry the film out of Marvel's hands and put it up on the screen because he never wants to stop improving things. That's the phase we're in now. We are almost done cutting, partly because we have so many visual effects that you can't go on forever. At a certain point, you have to take your hands of it, and let them do their magic. But we're literally shooting some things this week. Anthony Hopkins is back in town; we're gonna be getting some stuff from him. So, we continue to, what Kevin Feige calls, 'plus' the movie. There are new scenes being added even now. And I'm sure if there wasn't a release date, we'd just keep on making it better."

On Marvel's process in finishing a film:

"Marvel seems to have a process where you make the movie...and then they're totally open to rewriting... even after production. And they sort of preserve time and money for that. Reshooting, in my case (thank God), is not like you screwed something up and you have to do it again. It's additional photography because it's 'oh what if we had a scene like this so that would make this happen over here.' And they sort of find the movie... through that process. And it's hard to get used to because that's not [how it works] where I came from, but watching them... they are really good at what they do as we've all noticed."

On the rumor of the fight for a longer cut and his issues with the music:

"There's a rumor out there that I was hanging on to a long cut and that Marvel wanted a shorter cut. Hilariously, that was never an issue because I don't know what the running time is. The change it's going through now had nothing to do with running time. There're some tonal pushes and shoves. We have relationships [in the movie] that we need to end the right way and there're new ways of branding them than we had before. The one fall-out I had with Marvel was over music. I had a composer that I really wanted to go with, and it didn't work out with Marvel" (Taylor originally wanted Carter Burell, who was replaced by IRON MAN 3's Brian Tyler.) "So, I was unhappy with that, but I heard the rumor about running time. Not true, I have no idea how long the movie is now. It's all about making the movie better and better and arm-wrestling over what 'better' means. But there have been no running time issues."

On additional photography that's taken place recently:

"We were doing full scenes; scenes that were not in the movie before, we're adding scenes, creating scenes, writing scenes for the first time. The one [involving Loki] was a fun connective scene that was just... we realized how well Loki was working in the movie. So, we wanted to do more with him. So it was that kind of thing; it was like 'oh we could do this or jam this in here' because he's just a wonderful guy to watch do his stuff. And boy do [the fans love him]."

Cool stuff. I'm pleased that Taylor is onboard this sequel, especially given his tenure with HBO's Game of Thrones. The director has said that he won't be able to return to the fourth seasn as he'll be promoting THOR, but hopes that he is back for the fifth season or "before they kill off all the characters I love."

THOR: THE DARK WORLD, starring Chris Hemsworth, Natalie Portman, Tom Hiddleston, Anthony Hopkins, Idris Elba, Christopher Eccleston, Jaimie Alexander, Ray Stevenson, Zachary Levi, and Anthony Hopkins, opens on November 8, 2013.

Extra Tidbit: Which director would you like to see tackle a Thor film?
Source: ColliderIGN

RECOMMENDED MOVIE NEWS

MORE FUN FROM AROUND THE WEB

Strikeback
Not registered? Sign-up!
Or

7:41AM on 08/13/2013
There's two Anthony Hopkins in the credits at the bottom there. Can't wait for double the Odin!
There's two Anthony Hopkins in the credits at the bottom there. Can't wait for double the Odin!
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
1:08AM on 08/13/2013
Wow, it seems he didn't really have the best time working at Marvel, but the trailer does seem to indicate he's delivered a pretty good follow-up to Thor and it seems like he can more than fill Kenneth Branagh's shoes.
Wow, it seems he didn't really have the best time working at Marvel, but the trailer does seem to indicate he's delivered a pretty good follow-up to Thor and it seems like he can more than fill Kenneth Branagh's shoes.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:38PM on 08/12/2013
Sometimes I read articles and get stuck on errors or bad English in the write-ups, which is kind of harsh because I don't give a shit about the grammar in my posts :p buuuuut don't you think having "his first feature film" and "veteran director" in the same sentence is really contradicting?


As for what Taylor said, more proof to what I have been saying since Iron Man 2, these films are the final say/vision/most voted on product of the producers, it became obvious with the directing choices
Sometimes I read articles and get stuck on errors or bad English in the write-ups, which is kind of harsh because I don't give a shit about the grammar in my posts :p buuuuut don't you think having "his first feature film" and "veteran director" in the same sentence is really contradicting?


As for what Taylor said, more proof to what I have been saying since Iron Man 2, these films are the final say/vision/most voted on product of the producers, it became obvious with the directing choices for Phase 2, two well respected directors replaced with TV directors, and any directors with a resume are cheap choices (Gunn, Black) but people online declare them artistic choices?? Luckily for us this method at Marvel of filmmaking is surprisingly successful, some give credit of that to 'having a long term goal' with their franchises, but really the long term goal is to continue with what makes money. When Marvel started making their own films they started Iron Man and Incredible Hulk at the same time, if you remember correctly that had much more invested with Hulk and it was considered the safe success between the 2. We all know how that ended up, ask Ed Norton lol.

With all this negativity I'm saying here, for the most part these movies have been really fun and pretty good, don't see that changing any time soon. Glad their connecting other characters with the reshoots, I assume that's other Marvel characters from other films.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
4:06AM on 08/13/2013
I don't know if it was changed, but the wording in the article makes complete sense. In one sentence, the author (Paul, of course) refers to this as Alan Taylor's "first big studio film," which is accurate since Taylor has television experience but no previous big studio movie productions. The next sentence calls him a "veteran director of HBO's Game Of Thrones", which is also true since he has directed quite a few episodes of that show. Neither one of these contradict, since Alan Taylor may
I don't know if it was changed, but the wording in the article makes complete sense. In one sentence, the author (Paul, of course) refers to this as Alan Taylor's "first big studio film," which is accurate since Taylor has television experience but no previous big studio movie productions. The next sentence calls him a "veteran director of HBO's Game Of Thrones", which is also true since he has directed quite a few episodes of that show. Neither one of these contradict, since Alan Taylor may be new to feature films, but he is experienced in directing for TV. There is nothing grammatically wrong with the opening paragraph.
8:21PM on 08/12/2013

I dunnooooo

Despite the show of good faith, one for which I'm sure Marvel/Disney pressed Taylor, I don't see much else in the way of "good" here. Nice to see Taylor address the rumors and put a nice spin on the reasons for these reshoots, but it's tough to not see this as simply plugging the massive holes of a problematic script. Why these weren't caught and fixed beforehand, in the actual scripting, is troubling. "...sort of find the movie..." sounds very much like "it's a mess, but we're hoping to
Despite the show of good faith, one for which I'm sure Marvel/Disney pressed Taylor, I don't see much else in the way of "good" here. Nice to see Taylor address the rumors and put a nice spin on the reasons for these reshoots, but it's tough to not see this as simply plugging the massive holes of a problematic script. Why these weren't caught and fixed beforehand, in the actual scripting, is troubling. "...sort of find the movie..." sounds very much like "it's a mess, but we're hoping to stuff it with random, expository bits, gloss over the remaining holes with some nifty-difty CGI battles, and deliver something that's not entirely unwatchable." I will no doubt still see it, but this little press dealy seems like they're putting icing on a poop cake.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:46PM on 08/12/2013
That's how X-Men 2 and Spiderman 2 were made. Also X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, Iron Man 2... okay I see your point. The point is that sometimes starting filming without a finished script (as they did with X-Men 2 and Spiderman 2) actually works.
That's how X-Men 2 and Spiderman 2 were made. Also X-Men 3, Spiderman 3, Iron Man 2... okay I see your point. The point is that sometimes starting filming without a finished script (as they did with X-Men 2 and Spiderman 2) actually works.
+10
7:53PM on 08/12/2013

About the music

The only problem I have with the marvel films is the lack of thematic continuity for the characters (X-men has the same problem). You've had 3 different composers give 3 different themes for Iron Man. Individually they've been good scores, and I'm sure Tyler will do a good job with Thor 2, but it would have been cool to bring back some of the themes Patrick Doyle created in the first movie.
The only problem I have with the marvel films is the lack of thematic continuity for the characters (X-men has the same problem). You've had 3 different composers give 3 different themes for Iron Man. Individually they've been good scores, and I'm sure Tyler will do a good job with Thor 2, but it would have been cool to bring back some of the themes Patrick Doyle created in the first movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:30AM on 08/13/2013
I completely agree and have always thought this. Why don't they re-use the same theme songs? When I hear the Indiana Jones theme song, or the Star Wars theme song, as two examples, it is like I'm immediately transported into that world.
I completely agree and have always thought this. Why don't they re-use the same theme songs? When I hear the Indiana Jones theme song, or the Star Wars theme song, as two examples, it is like I'm immediately transported into that world.
4:53AM on 08/15/2013
This drives me crazy too. NO Marvel heros have theme music. It's all generic "epic" stuff. *sigh*...too late now, I guess.
This drives me crazy too. NO Marvel heros have theme music. It's all generic "epic" stuff. *sigh*...too late now, I guess.
7:41PM on 08/12/2013
I just wanna see more Loki. Easily one of the best Marvel characters ever and easily steals every scene that he is in.
I just wanna see more Loki. Easily one of the best Marvel characters ever and easily steals every scene that he is in.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
7:37AM on 08/13/2013
I agree he definitely puts everything in that role with every film
I agree he definitely puts everything in that role with every film
7:18PM on 08/12/2013
"I don't know what the running time is." Coming from the director. Big ass blockbusters really are a whole different ball game I guess.
Anyway, the trailer looked fantastic, but it would be hard to top the first one though.
"I don't know what the running time is." Coming from the director. Big ass blockbusters really are a whole different ball game I guess.
Anyway, the trailer looked fantastic, but it would be hard to top the first one though.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
View All Comments

Latest Entertainment News Headlines


Top
Loading...
JoBlo's T-Shirt Shoppe | support our site... Wear Our Gear!