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Tim Miller leaves Deadpool 2; issues over casting believed to be a reason

10.23.2016

Well…shit.

Just when we thought the success of DEADPOOL left everyone happy, smiling and ready to work on the debauchery-filled sequel, this bomb done goes and blows up in everyone’s face. What bomb is that you ask? Oh just the one that involves the first film’s director, Tim Miller, leaving the project. As I said…shit.

Deadline first reported that the director left the project this weekend over “creative differences” for the sequel, but that the split was “amicable.” In instances like this people start jumping to blame the relationship with the studio (much like the Edgar Wright/Marvel incident), but in this case the clash was between Miller and his star, Ryan Reynolds.

More light was shed on the issue by The Wrap, who got the scoop the actor and director had been in dispute for some time, even falling off speaking terms for a time. Tensions came to a head when the two disagreed over casting, namely for the sequel's villain, Cable. News is the rumors surrounding the casting of Kyle Chandler were accurate, and that Miller had wanted to cast the SUPER 8 actor, whereas Reynolds did not. In the end it was up to the studio to decide, and they eventually sided with Deadpool himself.

Among other issues, negotiations for the sequel not only got Reynolds a hefty amount of money, but also a large amount of creative control, including over casting. This slowed down the process for getting the sequel moving, which apparently was not to Miller's liking. As well, Miller is said to have wanted to take a more "stylized" approach to the sequel, whereas Reynolds wanted more focus on raunchy, R-rated humor and antics. So, yeah, there's a whole thing going on.

However, casting appears to have been the biggest straw to break the camel's back, and now Miller is officially gone, and reportedly now looking to get involved in Fox's upcoming INFLUX series based on the Daniel Suarez books, with a script from Mark Bomback, which is rumored to be a trilogy.

Obviously this sucks, not just because Miller did such a great job with the first film, but because everyone from Reynolds, to Miller to writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick seemed to be on the same page—simpatico, as they say. But clearly there were lingering problems, and it sucks they couldn't be reconciled. But what's done is done, and all we can hope for is a good movie at the end of whatever route Reynolds and Co. take. If it's believed Miller wanted Chandler, and Reynolds didn't, we can now assume the actor is out of the running. Lord only knows if that was a good or bad decision, but hopefully whoever gets to be the big baddie will knock it out of the park. Who knows, maybe Pool (Reynolds) wasn't joking when he said Dolph Lundgren would be the best choice during the end credits sequence.

DEADPOOL is aiming for a 2018 release starring Ryan Reynolds with God knows who directing.

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7:29PM on 10/24/2016

Sad to see any disharmony.....

But seriously. . . . Kyle Chandler? WTF??? I'm a fan of his work, but that appears to be a terrible choice. I understand that people can (and do) surprise you, but that would be a monumental shock if it was actually good....
But seriously. . . . Kyle Chandler? WTF??? I'm a fan of his work, but that appears to be a terrible choice. I understand that people can (and do) surprise you, but that would be a monumental shock if it was actually good....
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4:09PM on 10/24/2016
No disrespect to Miller, but wasn't that his first film? DP#1 was such a risk they had to go with that kind of director I think. It sucks he is leaving the job, but dp2 doesn't need to do the usual sequel stuff. It needs to be more like 22 jump street, especially with how well DP1 ended up doing. And if it comes down to Reynolds decision or Miller's on this project, you have to go with Reynolds. He earned it creatively, and financially for the studio. Again, no disrespect to Miller who
No disrespect to Miller, but wasn't that his first film? DP#1 was such a risk they had to go with that kind of director I think. It sucks he is leaving the job, but dp2 doesn't need to do the usual sequel stuff. It needs to be more like 22 jump street, especially with how well DP1 ended up doing. And if it comes down to Reynolds decision or Miller's on this project, you have to go with Reynolds. He earned it creatively, and financially for the studio. Again, no disrespect to Miller who did a good job, but no one went to see the film bc of him, or even knew he was. He should kind of be thankful for being involved and voice his opinion for sure, but ride with Reynolds ultimately. And as a new director, I'd be kinda afraid the studio would have an easier time getting Miller to just do the things that worked in #2 bigger and better. Prolly make it non chronological too. But now they can get someone like maybe an Edgar Wright. Ultimately, he should know it's Reynolds show, I would imagine a pretty solid gig, and even if I disagreed with RR on some things, I'd stay
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4:10PM on 10/24/2016
Matt Vaughn,?
Matt Vaughn,?
5:28PM on 10/24/2016
Wasn't #1 a pretty stylish film? I mean, it was.

Also, I'm indifferent to Chandler. I trust who they cast.

And I don't think they will have any problem at all trying to find a replacement director. The only problem would be directors already attached to projects, but DP#2 has got to be a movie many directors would like to do because of the recognition, it's a unique film in the biz where they could be more creative on a larger budget, and it'd be a fun sandbox to play in. I mean
Wasn't #1 a pretty stylish film? I mean, it was.

Also, I'm indifferent to Chandler. I trust who they cast.

And I don't think they will have any problem at all trying to find a replacement director. The only problem would be directors already attached to projects, but DP#2 has got to be a movie many directors would like to do because of the recognition, it's a unique film in the biz where they could be more creative on a larger budget, and it'd be a fun sandbox to play in. I mean as long as there aren't contract problems I think they could maybe even get QT,
Guy Ritchie,
Robert Rodriguez,
Joseph Gordon Levitt,
Werner Herzog,
Ben Stiller,
James Gunn,
Justin Theroux,
Favreau,
Shane Black,
Adam McKay,
The director of Pineapple Express,
Maybe Seth Rogen and his partner,
Joe Carnahan, The director of Smoking Aces AND STRETCH!!!
Ppl from the Apatow team,
Peter Berg (Rundown, Very Bad Things),
The ppl who directed the league (bc rafi always reminds me of deadpool),
Scott Aukerman (who has written some DP issues and does between 2 ferns and comedy bang bang),
Bob Odenkirk,
Louis C.K.,
Greg Mottola,
The lonely island trio or just one of them (MacGruber????),
Trey Parker/Matt Stone,
Phil Lord/Chris Miller,
David Wain,
Edgar Wright,
David o Russell,
E.L. Katz,
Terry Gilliam,
Todd Phillips,
Michel Gondry,
Mark Duplass,
Jake Kasdan,
Drew Goddard,
Orrrrr Ryan himself.
These are all just random names that took me about 10 minutes to think up. Some of you will think some suggestions are terrible, and again they were mainly off the top of my head, but I can come up with some reasons why each one is worth mentioning.
Martin Campbell would be a funny choice but an in-joke.

My top picks, in no specific order, would be...

1.Matthew Vaughn (he's perfect, he already directed a Fox/Marvel movie and Kingsman has a similar Deadpool tone),

2.Joe Carnahan, director of Stretch and Smoking Aces,

3.The two directors of The League

4.Scott Aukerman, who MIIIIIGHT be my favorite if he showed he could do action, or

5.One, or all, of the people from the Lonely Island Trio

So the only real problem is hitting their release date, but hopefully everyone will have enough sense to take the time they need to make the best film and move the release date back if needed.

Sorry for the long ramble but would love to hear other suggestions.
3:18PM on 10/24/2016
Stephen Lang is the optimal choice for Cable. Even Stephen Lang himself stated he was interested in the role.
Stephen Lang is the optimal choice for Cable. Even Stephen Lang himself stated he was interested in the role.
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10:10AM on 10/24/2016
unbelievable bummer. Just yesterday, I was thinking how great and like-minded their team was. Hope the writers are still on board, they did a bang up job. wish they hire Edgar wright as director
unbelievable bummer. Just yesterday, I was thinking how great and like-minded their team was. Hope the writers are still on board, they did a bang up job. wish they hire Edgar wright as director
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9:27AM on 10/24/2016
I'm calling this now. Jeff Wadlow will be the replacement. They keep attaching the dude to various X-movies like X-Force and whatnot, and since none of those have a firm release date they'll have him do this one and then have him helm either X-Force or a Cable solo film as his followup.
I'm calling this now. Jeff Wadlow will be the replacement. They keep attaching the dude to various X-movies like X-Force and whatnot, and since none of those have a firm release date they'll have him do this one and then have him helm either X-Force or a Cable solo film as his followup.
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4:22PM on 10/24/2016
Naw. I disagree. Kick ass 2 was not a fun movie, which is why I say Matt Vaughn
Naw. I disagree. Kick ass 2 was not a fun movie, which is why I say Matt Vaughn
12:10AM on 10/25/2016
Ugh No! Kickass 2 was awful.
Ugh No! Kickass 2 was awful.
8:38AM on 10/24/2016
He did indeed do an amazing job with Deadpool. But I agree, I don't see Kyle Chandler as Cable, not even close. Although we've all been proven wrong with castings before, this one just seems out of place. Seems like a few things hit a boiling point, I just hope the sequel isn't a let down.
He did indeed do an amazing job with Deadpool. But I agree, I don't see Kyle Chandler as Cable, not even close. Although we've all been proven wrong with castings before, this one just seems out of place. Seems like a few things hit a boiling point, I just hope the sequel isn't a let down.
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6:42AM on 10/24/2016
I definitely can't see how Kyle Chandler can be Cable. For me, Stephen Lang, Ron Perlman or Vincent D'Onofrio should be Cable.
I definitely can't see how Kyle Chandler can be Cable. For me, Stephen Lang, Ron Perlman or Vincent D'Onofrio should be Cable.
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4:42AM on 10/24/2016

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Tom Selleck for Cable?

Big call I know but the guy is ripe for a comeback and a solid actor capable of being the right kind of badass. Could make up for the movie career that never was after missing out on Indy.
Tom Selleck for Cable?

Big call I know but the guy is ripe for a comeback and a solid actor capable of being the right kind of badass. Could make up for the movie career that never was after missing out on Indy.
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12:02AM on 10/24/2016
This is unfortunate news considering how great and successful the first Deadpool film was and is and how much of it was because a team effort from everyone involved.

Both sides aren't wrong and/or right; just indifferent. I liked what Miller did with the tone, style, and substance with the limited budget he and the film had, and I also liked the crass, explicit humor that Reynolds brought to life as Deadpool and wants to push more in future films.

But obviously it sucks that the two had
This is unfortunate news considering how great and successful the first Deadpool film was and is and how much of it was because a team effort from everyone involved.

Both sides aren't wrong and/or right; just indifferent. I liked what Miller did with the tone, style, and substance with the limited budget he and the film had, and I also liked the crass, explicit humor that Reynolds brought to life as Deadpool and wants to push more in future films.

But obviously it sucks that the two had conflict with one another, which lead to Miller's departure since I was hoping that the same team would be returning for the sequel considering how vital they were to the first film. But I have to side with Reynolds because even though Kyle Chandler is a good actor, in no way do I think he would make an acceptable Cable (and since Cable is a really big deal, Reynolds should take his time and effort to really find the actor he finds the most suitable that can bring the character to life like he has with Deadpool). And the fact that Reynolds is the star of the franchise and obviously it would be easier to find another director than to replace Reynolds who IS Deadpool at this point.

But after the success of the first film and seeing what type of universe it set up for future films, I'm sure Reynolds and the studio will have a lot of directors throwing their hat into the ring in wanting to put their own creative spin on it.
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11:38PM on 10/23/2016

unfortunate

but old news. Should start reporting news on Sat
but old news. Should start reporting news on Sat
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11:20PM on 10/23/2016

Major bummer, dude!

Reynolds was good as Deadpool and all, but I personally would be more inclined to chock up how well the first film turned out to Tim Miller, the guy seriously did a near perfect job hitting the right tone and making the absolute most of his moderate budget. After the unexpected, runaway success of the first he should have been given carte freaking blanche to do whatever he wanted on the sequel. But I get it, Reynolds is the face of the franchise so the studio wants to make him happy at any
Reynolds was good as Deadpool and all, but I personally would be more inclined to chock up how well the first film turned out to Tim Miller, the guy seriously did a near perfect job hitting the right tone and making the absolute most of his moderate budget. After the unexpected, runaway success of the first he should have been given carte freaking blanche to do whatever he wanted on the sequel. But I get it, Reynolds is the face of the franchise so the studio wants to make him happy at any cost. Personally I'd trust Miller's business sense in what tone will make for a hit a lot more than Reynolds especially since he's had not one, not two, but five box office flops in the past five years! (Aside from animated films the only two solid hits he's been in were Safe House and Deadpool and Box Office Mojo etc. attribute the financial success of that one to Denzel who has a pretty spotless box office record). Seriously, Reynolds might have successfully established himself as a sex symbol but the guy just can't land a hit at the box office. I mean, if he keeps getting steady work than Chris Hemsworth has nothing to worry about. So it's just a shame, that Reynolds, who very much needed a solid hit seems to have let it go to his head as soon as it happened.
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4:18PM on 10/24/2016
Ah man I disagree. If that's your argument then the writers were most important to write the tone and cheap set pieces. Even non linear story.
Ah man I disagree. If that's your argument then the writers were most important to write the tone and cheap set pieces. Even non linear story.
10:34PM on 10/23/2016
This sucks. Now the hunt is on for a director who can do Deadpool justice, and can gel with the rest of the creative team. Personally, sure, Chandler wasn't my first pick, I've never seen the man give an over-the-top performance in his career, but that didn't mean he was wrong for the job. Now because the studio has a date set they'll be scrambling to find someone to fill his shoes, and find a new Cable, and cast Domino, and keep Ryan Reynolds happy, and deliver a movie that can live up to the
This sucks. Now the hunt is on for a director who can do Deadpool justice, and can gel with the rest of the creative team. Personally, sure, Chandler wasn't my first pick, I've never seen the man give an over-the-top performance in his career, but that didn't mean he was wrong for the job. Now because the studio has a date set they'll be scrambling to find someone to fill his shoes, and find a new Cable, and cast Domino, and keep Ryan Reynolds happy, and deliver a movie that can live up to the first all at the same time.
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9:25AM on 10/24/2016
Or this winds up like Gambit and getting post-poned forever. Just kidding, with how much money the first one raked in, they'll do everything they can to hit that release date. Hopefully that means that they don't settle for some bottom of the barrel pick merely because they're available.
Or this winds up like Gambit and getting post-poned forever. Just kidding, with how much money the first one raked in, they'll do everything they can to hit that release date. Hopefully that means that they don't settle for some bottom of the barrel pick merely because they're available.
4:16PM on 10/24/2016
I think with the first ones success, Reynolds can get more time
I think with the first ones success, Reynolds can get more time
7:36PM on 10/23/2016
Well while I do like Chandler, I don't know how he would have been as Cable. Cable towers over DP, so Dolph might not be a bad idea. It does suck that everyone involved in the process of DP1 won't be there for the sequel.
Well while I do like Chandler, I don't know how he would have been as Cable. Cable towers over DP, so Dolph might not be a bad idea. It does suck that everyone involved in the process of DP1 won't be there for the sequel.
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7:24PM on 10/23/2016
I was hoping they weren't going to cast Kyle Chandler. No fucking way should he be playing Cable. Ryan Reynolds is right. And if it means a director who hasn't done much will leave over Chandler not getting the part, so be it. IMO Tim Miller is replaceable while Reynolds has been trying to get Deadpool rolling for years, fits the part perfectly, so is not replaceable. Sorry this had to happened but I'm 100% with Reynolds.
I was hoping they weren't going to cast Kyle Chandler. No fucking way should he be playing Cable. Ryan Reynolds is right. And if it means a director who hasn't done much will leave over Chandler not getting the part, so be it. IMO Tim Miller is replaceable while Reynolds has been trying to get Deadpool rolling for years, fits the part perfectly, so is not replaceable. Sorry this had to happened but I'm 100% with Reynolds.
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10:37PM on 10/23/2016
True Reynolds is the one who's been championing this the longest, but Miller's been there for the past six years with him. I agree, Chandler is wrong.
True Reynolds is the one who's been championing this the longest, but Miller's been there for the past six years with him. I agree, Chandler is wrong.
2:28PM on 10/24/2016
It doesn't make sense that he could walk out if he had as much passion as Reynolds. Why spend all that time together with Reynolds and on the project, just to leave because the star of show doesn't want the same actor? Who doesn't even look the part. Being with Reynolds for that long he should have already been accustomed to compromising and negotiating on decisions. If he's not willing to negotiate so he can see his project completed, then I don't think it was as important to him than it was
It doesn't make sense that he could walk out if he had as much passion as Reynolds. Why spend all that time together with Reynolds and on the project, just to leave because the star of show doesn't want the same actor? Who doesn't even look the part. Being with Reynolds for that long he should have already been accustomed to compromising and negotiating on decisions. If he's not willing to negotiate so he can see his project completed, then I don't think it was as important to him than it was to Reynolds. I bet he had no problems compromising on parts of the film prior to the movie's success. But after the movie blows up big suddenly Miller decision is final and he feels like he's not expendable?
6:41PM on 10/23/2016
I wasn't sure who Kyle Chandler was so I Googled. Gotta go with Deadpool in this one. No idea how they could look at him and go "Oh that guy's obviously Cable." Sad to see this happen but c'mon.
I wasn't sure who Kyle Chandler was so I Googled. Gotta go with Deadpool in this one. No idea how they could look at him and go "Oh that guy's obviously Cable." Sad to see this happen but c'mon.
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6:40PM on 10/23/2016
I get it from both sides, how Reynolds wants more raunch and Miller wants more style. Style is sometimes overlooked and can really make or break a movie sometimes, for example Fight Club is the epitome of style and it really adds a lot to the movie, Choke (also a Chuck Palahniuk book) on the other hand has zero style and the movie is completely boring. I hope Reynolds knows style does matter.
I get it from both sides, how Reynolds wants more raunch and Miller wants more style. Style is sometimes overlooked and can really make or break a movie sometimes, for example Fight Club is the epitome of style and it really adds a lot to the movie, Choke (also a Chuck Palahniuk book) on the other hand has zero style and the movie is completely boring. I hope Reynolds knows style does matter.
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5:25PM on 10/23/2016
I still love the idea of Deadpool disagreeing with whoever they cast as Cable so he pictures him as Kiera Knightly and we see that through his eyes every once in a while.

But for the real news here, obviously this a huge bummer. However, I can't imagine they'll have a hard time finding someone with a good enough vision that is willing to just fall in line.
I still love the idea of Deadpool disagreeing with whoever they cast as Cable so he pictures him as Kiera Knightly and we see that through his eyes every once in a while.

But for the real news here, obviously this a huge bummer. However, I can't imagine they'll have a hard time finding someone with a good enough vision that is willing to just fall in line.
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4:41PM on 10/23/2016

Don't try to fix what's not broken

Disappointing news to be sure but I'm with Reynolds on this one.

Deadpool is crass, sarcastic & comedically malicious. His distinctive character traits (4th wall breaks, pop - culture / multi - verse references) & absolute raunchiness are what sold the first movie for me. It had passionate people in its creation leading to its success. I hope the sequel's a hit minus Miller's input.

Chandler is a good actor, but for a comic book villain (and Cable in particular) I don't think he'd
Disappointing news to be sure but I'm with Reynolds on this one.

Deadpool is crass, sarcastic & comedically malicious. His distinctive character traits (4th wall breaks, pop - culture / multi - verse references) & absolute raunchiness are what sold the first movie for me. It had passionate people in its creation leading to its success. I hope the sequel's a hit minus Miller's input.

Chandler is a good actor, but for a comic book villain (and Cable in particular) I don't think he'd fit. Just my op, tho.
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4:34PM on 10/23/2016
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"If I ever decide to become a crime-fighting shit swizzler, who rooms with a bunch of other little whiners at Neverland Mansion with some creepy, old, bald, Heaven’s Gate-looking motherfucker… on that day, I’ll send your shiny, happy ass a friend request."
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