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Titus Welliver says Transformers 4 is darker and won't be a "kids' movie"

02.21.2014

UPDATE: Willever recently clarified his statement about the "kids movie" aspect, saying:

“I misspoke in my last interview when I said that Transformers 4 was not a kids movie…what I meant was that this film, will in fact expand their target audience and bring in a bigger fan base. Following the huge success of Transformers and their toy line,  it is certainly a kids movie and with the addition of Mark Wahlberg, Transformers 4 will be the coolest in the franchise.”

Michael Bay previously said TRANSFORMERS: AGE OF EXTINCTION won't be goofy at all, but since some people don't think too highly of the director's opinion, maybe you'll be convinced by someone else making similar comments. While speaking with Nerdist, actor Titus Welliver (RED 2, ARGO, television's LOST, AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.) was asked about the upcoming film, and he says it will be darker than the first three films.

“It’s a bit more of a darker vision of the Transformers world… It’s not a kids movie, I’ll tell you that much.”

Obviously TRANSFORMERS: THE AGE OT EXTINCTION will still be marketed towards children, but adopting a more serious tone could help the film. Although the franchise has made an insane amount of money, they haven't received glowing reviews from critics, and one of the reasons is because the films have been a little silly. Just because there's going to be robotic dinos running around doesn't mean the film itself can't be serious, and I think this is the right approach for the new movie.

Some aren't going to bother with the fourth film, either because they don't like Michael Bay or because they've had enough of his TRANSFORMERS series. But there are some things I do like about the new movie (Grimlock, Kelsey Grammer as the villain), and it should feature plenty of great action. As long as the next movie is better than TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, I'll be happy.

TRANSFORMERS: AGE OF EXTINCTION also stars Mark Wahlberg, Nicola Peltz, Jack Reynor, Stanley Tucci, Sophia Myles, T.J. Miller, and Li Bingbing, and will be released on June 27th, 2014.

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4:38AM on 02/22/2014
I think Hollywood keep mixing up 'kids movies' with 'movies that sucks', because dammit a lot of kids movies are fun and smart and does not feel like it was written BY 13 year olds. Heck, none of the Transformers movies are actually proper viewing for kids anyway. Not with the amount of gruesome violence, shots of sweaty girls in alluring positions, and all the racist jokes that they thought they could get away with.
I think Hollywood keep mixing up 'kids movies' with 'movies that sucks', because dammit a lot of kids movies are fun and smart and does not feel like it was written BY 13 year olds. Heck, none of the Transformers movies are actually proper viewing for kids anyway. Not with the amount of gruesome violence, shots of sweaty girls in alluring positions, and all the racist jokes that they thought they could get away with.
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6:08PM on 02/21/2014

My ass

So tired of people saying their cartoon/comic movie will be "darker".
At least it's not as retarded as saying how Superman will be "darker".
So tired of people saying their cartoon/comic movie will be "darker".
At least it's not as retarded as saying how Superman will be "darker".
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5:23PM on 02/21/2014
People can hate all they want, it's still gonna make a billion dollars.
People can hate all they want, it's still gonna make a billion dollars.
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3:43PM on 02/21/2014
A movie that features a robotic semi truck welding a sword riding a giant robotic dinosaur isn't a kids movie?

Ok. Whatever you say.
A movie that features a robotic semi truck welding a sword riding a giant robotic dinosaur isn't a kids movie?

Ok. Whatever you say.
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3:37PM on 02/21/2014

Bollocks

Not a kids film, but will sell a shit load of toys.
Yeah, makes sense.
Not a kids film, but will sell a shit load of toys.
Yeah, makes sense.
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6:43PM on 02/21/2014
The only way these films could be 'darker', is if they sack the lighting crew.
The only way these films could be 'darker', is if they sack the lighting crew.
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2:52PM on 02/21/2014
"It's not a kids movie" there is plenty of robots and dinosaurs but hey it's not a "KIDS" movie damn it!
"It's not a kids movie" there is plenty of robots and dinosaurs but hey it's not a "KIDS" movie damn it!
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2:33PM on 02/21/2014
Sooo. no stereotyped Autobots?
Sooo. no stereotyped Autobots?
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2:13PM on 02/21/2014

not sure about "dinos"

to this point, we have not seen any dino, what we saw is more a DRAGON and by some of the picture, optimus go to china (or japan wathever) to find a dragon not a dino, I think they are gona play the dragon mytho was about an old transformers or something like that ! maybe i'm wrong but... it looks more like a knight riding a dragon with his sword more than a t-rex lolll
to this point, we have not seen any dino, what we saw is more a DRAGON and by some of the picture, optimus go to china (or japan wathever) to find a dragon not a dino, I think they are gona play the dragon mytho was about an old transformers or something like that ! maybe i'm wrong but... it looks more like a knight riding a dragon with his sword more than a t-rex lolll
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2:06PM on 02/21/2014

LOLLL

Dark tone, I think the last one was pretty damn dark, with all the humans turning into ash an all. I really do hope this is much darker, I want them to take risk kill off some characters and all.
Dark tone, I think the last one was pretty damn dark, with all the humans turning into ash an all. I really do hope this is much darker, I want them to take risk kill off some characters and all.
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1:45PM on 02/21/2014
Dark tone? Fix the lousy script writing you bestowed on us in the last two installments
Dark tone? Fix the lousy script writing you bestowed on us in the last two installments
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12:42PM on 02/21/2014

Seriously?

You can't say you have anything serious when you have TJ Miller listed in you're casting. Not saying that I don't like him because he is a funny guy, but that is my point. He is funny not serious.
You can't say you have anything serious when you have TJ Miller listed in you're casting. Not saying that I don't like him because he is a funny guy, but that is my point. He is funny not serious.
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12:33PM on 02/21/2014

NO

When are filmmakers going to realize that you don't have to "go dark" to make your franchise good and fresh again? This is a movie about talking alien robots that turn into vehicles and ride on robot dinosaurs. How can they possibly make that dark and "adult"? The tone is going to be all over the place.
Transformers is for kids. Just make a kids movie, but without the awful parts of the first three movies. That's all.
When are filmmakers going to realize that you don't have to "go dark" to make your franchise good and fresh again? This is a movie about talking alien robots that turn into vehicles and ride on robot dinosaurs. How can they possibly make that dark and "adult"? The tone is going to be all over the place.
Transformers is for kids. Just make a kids movie, but without the awful parts of the first three movies. That's all.
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12:27PM on 02/21/2014

it wont be like transformers..

it'll be scary like skeleton warriors...

and for those who don't know what this is check youtube...
it'll be scary like skeleton warriors...

and for those who don't know what this is check youtube...
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11:33AM on 02/21/2014

Bullshit

Silliness was never a significant criticism of the TF movies. Nonsensical, brainless, racist, badly edited, can't tell the robots apart, especially during fight scenes, those were criticisms of the movies.

hell, Prime riding a dinobot is silly, even if the film is darker. claiming it is taking a darker tone does not equate to not being silly. just look at the damn picture you use in your own article.

that may be the silliest image from the entire film series.
Silliness was never a significant criticism of the TF movies. Nonsensical, brainless, racist, badly edited, can't tell the robots apart, especially during fight scenes, those were criticisms of the movies.

hell, Prime riding a dinobot is silly, even if the film is darker. claiming it is taking a darker tone does not equate to not being silly. just look at the damn picture you use in your own article.

that may be the silliest image from the entire film series.
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10:38AM on 02/21/2014
Here's an idea: MAKE A KIDS MOVIE!

You do not need "darkness" and racial stereotypes, pot brownies, f-bombs, upskirt panty shots and civilians being vaporized into skeletons by the hundreds in a movie about talking robots from outer space that turn themselves into cars.
Here's an idea: MAKE A KIDS MOVIE!

You do not need "darkness" and racial stereotypes, pot brownies, f-bombs, upskirt panty shots and civilians being vaporized into skeletons by the hundreds in a movie about talking robots from outer space that turn themselves into cars.
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10:38AM on 02/21/2014
That mean kids would need to bring their flashlights to the movies, hehe.
That mean kids would need to bring their flashlights to the movies, hehe.
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10:28AM on 02/21/2014

I cant wait to see this now that they are taking a "darker" tone.....

not. I dont care.
not. I dont care.
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10:23AM on 02/21/2014
So it's a movie about robots that transform into cars and Dinosaurs, based off of toys from the 70s and a cartoon from the 80s, made for adults.

This is why the world is going to shit.
So it's a movie about robots that transform into cars and Dinosaurs, based off of toys from the 70s and a cartoon from the 80s, made for adults.

This is why the world is going to shit.
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10:17AM on 02/21/2014
If there's anything I've learned from how Dark of the Moon turned out, it's that a Michael Bay cannot change his spots.
If there's anything I've learned from how Dark of the Moon turned out, it's that a Michael Bay cannot change his spots.
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10:17AM on 02/21/2014
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
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10:17AM on 02/21/2014
You hear that everyone? It's gonna be a darker version.
You hear that everyone? It's gonna be a darker version.
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10:14AM on 02/21/2014
You know, I always thought, what if Bay just made the first Transformers flick in '07 then moved on to Pain & Gain right after that? He probably would have been hailed as one of the best directors today. I mean, I still love Bay, and all of his other action movies are well put together and a fun ride. I'm tired of PG-13 Michael Bay...and that's why Pain & Gain was so awesome. Dear God, I hope he cans Transformers soon and moves on to Bad Boys 3.
You know, I always thought, what if Bay just made the first Transformers flick in '07 then moved on to Pain & Gain right after that? He probably would have been hailed as one of the best directors today. I mean, I still love Bay, and all of his other action movies are well put together and a fun ride. I'm tired of PG-13 Michael Bay...and that's why Pain & Gain was so awesome. Dear God, I hope he cans Transformers soon and moves on to Bad Boys 3.
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10:17AM on 02/21/2014
Pain and Gain was a pleasant surprise. Bay needs to do more stuff like that.
Pain and Gain was a pleasant surprise. Bay needs to do more stuff like that.
3:00PM on 02/21/2014
Have you watched Bad Boys 2 recently? I'm an apologist for that movie and even I have to admit it's just Transformers with Martin Lawrence taking over for Shia LaBeouf's schtick w/ henchmen and mansions and luxury cars replacing Transformers.
Have you watched Bad Boys 2 recently? I'm an apologist for that movie and even I have to admit it's just Transformers with Martin Lawrence taking over for Shia LaBeouf's schtick w/ henchmen and mansions and luxury cars replacing Transformers.
3:24PM on 02/21/2014
Pain and gain was far better than I expected from Bay
Pain and gain was far better than I expected from Bay
10:10AM on 02/21/2014
"Its not a kids movie"

Doubt toys r us will use that to promote the dinobots
"Its not a kids movie"

Doubt toys r us will use that to promote the dinobots
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4:41AM on 02/22/2014
"IT'S NOT A TOY FROM A KID'S MOVIE. IT'S A COLLECTIBLE ITEM FOR ADULTS!"
*See bottom of box*
"Ages 9-13"
"IT'S NOT A TOY FROM A KID'S MOVIE. IT'S A COLLECTIBLE ITEM FOR ADULTS!"
*See bottom of box*
"Ages 9-13"
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