Latest Entertainment News Headlines

Toby Kebbell wishes you could see Josh Trank's real cut of Fantastic Four

06.07.2016

toby kebbell, fantastic four, doctor doom

Last summer, Josh Trank's FANTASTIC FOUR was the film stuck in everyone's crosshairs. Many fans emphatically declared that the film would be terrible before they ever saw it, mostly due to a leaked set pic of Doctor Doom that formed their early opinions, and the studio began hedging their bets in trying to rearrange the movie into something much different from the initial vision they greenlighted. In the end, the film damaged the superhero foursome once again, even though the film was far from terrible. In fact, much of the front end is rather interesting and gives you a solid glimpse at what could have been a very different but at least intriguing take on the Fantastic Four... that is, until things start to fall apart in the third act. 

FANTASTIC FOUR turned out to be a disappointment for everyone - 20th Century Fox, the fans, the cast and crew, etc - and now Toby Kebbell, in a hot-off-the-press interview with Jen Yamato at The Daily Beast to promote WARCRAFT, is ready to tell you that once upon a time there was a better film... there actually was a better cut of Josh Trank's take on the characters with much more of his Doctor Doom. The problem is that you're never going to get a chance to see what could have been. 

I tell you, the honest truth is [Trank] did cut a great film that you’ll never see. That is a shame. A much darker version, and you’ll never see it.

I spent so long figuring out an accent that was from the mid-Eastern block, generic enough to be a guy who then lived in America. I figured that out.

Unfortunately, I played Doom in three points: Walking down a corridor, killing the doctor and getting into the time machine, and lying on the bench. They were the only times I played Doom. Everything else was some other guy, on some other day… doing some other thing. I was infuriated that he was allowed to limp like that!

I missed the press tour for PLANET OF THE APES because I was lying under rubble, slowly rising out of the ashes to be Doctor Doom. Never made it to the film!

I understand Fox had their fair share of problems with Trank, how he worked, etc. But, at some point in time, you just have to release the movie that's been made, put it in front of an audience and see if they respond to it. Tinkering and tweaking and bending and twisting to try to make something out of what is perceived as nothing often does more damage than just leaving a flawed film alone... and believe me, they're all flawed in some fashion.

Hell, there are tons of "bad" movies that still turn out successful... and there are tons of "good" films that are not. Sometimes you just have to stick to your guns and hope for the best, because this isn't an exact science. Often you don't know what the public will embrace or won't. And I wish Josh Trank's FANTASTIC FOUR would have gotten its day in court for proper judgment, rather than what we ultimately wound up with which showed promise of something potentially better than never was allowed to be.

CLICK IMAGE TO OPEN GALLERY & SEE MORE PICS...

Source: The Daily Beast

RECOMMENDED MOVIE NEWS

MORE FUN FROM AROUND THE WEB

Strikeback
Not registered? Sign-up!
Or

4:34PM on 06/08/2016

Fuck You

So sick and tired of seeing articles on Joblo every other day concerning this shitty movie and how it could have been and what needed to be done and was not. Fuck Fox for once again not getting it right. For making three FF movies and not being able to make any of them good. Sell it back to Marvel and stop making excuses. If I messed up even once and cost my company money I would be fired, not allowed two more shots at it.
So sick and tired of seeing articles on Joblo every other day concerning this shitty movie and how it could have been and what needed to be done and was not. Fuck Fox for once again not getting it right. For making three FF movies and not being able to make any of them good. Sell it back to Marvel and stop making excuses. If I messed up even once and cost my company money I would be fired, not allowed two more shots at it.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:35AM on 06/08/2016

Sorry Toby...

I've seen the film. A different cut can add more depth to characters and better explain some plot points. What it doesn't do is made bad scenes better, and this film was full of them. The actors just felt uncomfortable all the way through. The flirting scene between Reed and Sue looks particularly awkward because it looks as if Trank just asked Mara and Teller to look charming without giving them anything to work with.

There just isn't enough good with the film to believe a passable version
I've seen the film. A different cut can add more depth to characters and better explain some plot points. What it doesn't do is made bad scenes better, and this film was full of them. The actors just felt uncomfortable all the way through. The flirting scene between Reed and Sue looks particularly awkward because it looks as if Trank just asked Mara and Teller to look charming without giving them anything to work with.

There just isn't enough good with the film to believe a passable version could be made.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:23AM on 06/08/2016
Why are we still talking about Fantastic Four? It came out last summer and was a total shitfest at the box office and has been forgotten about. I get that it suffered from major studio interference and Josh Trank had a better vision/cut of the film than the one released. But at a certain point, we also just need to forget about a bad movie/franchise and move on. This franchise is not going to be revived, fans are not interested in this version of the FF. It's now time to just move on and
Why are we still talking about Fantastic Four? It came out last summer and was a total shitfest at the box office and has been forgotten about. I get that it suffered from major studio interference and Josh Trank had a better vision/cut of the film than the one released. But at a certain point, we also just need to forget about a bad movie/franchise and move on. This franchise is not going to be revived, fans are not interested in this version of the FF. It's now time to just move on and forget about this horrible piece of cinema.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
12:44PM on 06/08/2016
It was recently nominated for the Teen Choice Award for Choice Movie - Sci-Fi/Fantasy. I guess someone is still thinking about the movie.
It was recently nominated for the Teen Choice Award for Choice Movie - Sci-Fi/Fantasy. I guess someone is still thinking about the movie.
8:57AM on 06/08/2016
Forced my way through it last week and it was so fucking boring
Forced my way through it last week and it was so fucking boring
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:21AM on 06/08/2016
Oooooooh, a "much darker" version? Well, that's automatically much, much better than the movie that came out, right? Darker = better, everybody knows that.

PASS on your fucking "much darker" Fantastic Four.
Oooooooh, a "much darker" version? Well, that's automatically much, much better than the movie that came out, right? Darker = better, everybody knows that.

PASS on your fucking "much darker" Fantastic Four.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:37AM on 06/08/2016
Thank you!!! So tired of "darker is better" film mentality. That works for THE PUNISHER, not the FF.
Thank you!!! So tired of "darker is better" film mentality. That works for THE PUNISHER, not the FF.
6:11AM on 06/08/2016
Let me know if the extended cut of the Batman v Superman movie is any better than what we got. I mean, yeah, the solution to making a boring movie better is making it longer.
Let me know if the extended cut of the Batman v Superman movie is any better than what we got. I mean, yeah, the solution to making a boring movie better is making it longer.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
2:04AM on 06/08/2016
I'd like to see it. I liked what trank was doing, it's clear when the film was taken away from him and that's when it falls apart.
I'd like to see it. I liked what trank was doing, it's clear when the film was taken away from him and that's when it falls apart.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
11:49PM on 06/07/2016

Fantastic Four wasn't a disappoinment to me

I actually enjoyed the film, and dug the look of Dr. Doom. It wasn't the best super hero film, but it was far from terrible.
I actually enjoyed the film, and dug the look of Dr. Doom. It wasn't the best super hero film, but it was far from terrible.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:48PM on 06/07/2016

Wait wait wait....

So in the directors cut all four of the "Fantastic Four" Share the screen sooner than the last five minutes in the directors cut? Because that's what stood out to me. How do you have a Fantastic Four movie when half of them don't even meet each other until the last 10 min of the movie?
So in the directors cut all four of the "Fantastic Four" Share the screen sooner than the last five minutes in the directors cut? Because that's what stood out to me. How do you have a Fantastic Four movie when half of them don't even meet each other until the last 10 min of the movie?
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:23PM on 06/07/2016

Why

Why does everyone keep saying 'we' ll never see this cut'? Fox should just release it. Everyone is curious to see it. Is there a reason why we can't see it??
Why does everyone keep saying 'we' ll never see this cut'? Fox should just release it. Everyone is curious to see it. Is there a reason why we can't see it??
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
10:41PM on 06/07/2016
one major one is that however it was cut in the first place its VFX and such wouldn't be finished/past the early stages or even THERE in some cases because they only do all the polish on the 'FINAL' cut. think about WAAAY back when Wolverine was leaked, unfinished online. ---that being said it would be an interesting study/curiosity to see it even unfinished to see its direction and what is was trying to be.

Course, this could all be a smokescreen designed to cover everyone's butts so they
one major one is that however it was cut in the first place its VFX and such wouldn't be finished/past the early stages or even THERE in some cases because they only do all the polish on the 'FINAL' cut. think about WAAAY back when Wolverine was leaked, unfinished online. ---that being said it would be an interesting study/curiosity to see it even unfinished to see its direction and what is was trying to be.

Course, this could all be a smokescreen designed to cover everyone's butts so they can still get a job.
+0
9:55PM on 06/07/2016
I'm trying to imagine how a director's cut would be. I don't know if it would be worse or less bad, but it couldn't be any good. It would most likely be worse, since Trank's directing was the worst part of the movie.
I'm trying to imagine how a director's cut would be. I don't know if it would be worse or less bad, but it couldn't be any good. It would most likely be worse, since Trank's directing was the worst part of the movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
9:20PM on 06/07/2016
Why does Fantastic Four need to be dark? I grew up with 80s-early 2000s Fantastic Four and they're light-hearted family friendly superheroes team. Maybe it's my fault for not reading Ultimate Fantastic Four but I believe Fantastic Four shouldn't be a dark movie.
Why does Fantastic Four need to be dark? I grew up with 80s-early 2000s Fantastic Four and they're light-hearted family friendly superheroes team. Maybe it's my fault for not reading Ultimate Fantastic Four but I believe Fantastic Four shouldn't be a dark movie.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:39PM on 06/07/2016

"Many fans emphatically declared that the film would be terrible before they ever saw it,"

And we were right.
And we were right.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
8:25PM on 06/07/2016
After watching it on HBO, I can't imagine there's a better cut. Maybe a cut that's not as bad, but I just can't see a version that works. There's some brief fleeting good ideas, but all in all, it wasn't good at all and no one seemed to be trying.
After watching it on HBO, I can't imagine there's a better cut. Maybe a cut that's not as bad, but I just can't see a version that works. There's some brief fleeting good ideas, but all in all, it wasn't good at all and no one seemed to be trying.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
8:21PM on 06/07/2016
There is no way Trank's version was better. I see the FF on Netflix, and I'm steering clear of this train wreck.
There is no way Trank's version was better. I see the FF on Netflix, and I'm steering clear of this train wreck.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
+0
6:39PM on 06/07/2016

You are far kinder than me.....

I thought it was crap end to end I really like Michael Jordan (both of them), but hated his Johnny Storm. He was nothing in life but a punk who wanted to drive fast. Exactly why would most people identify with that (unless they spend all their time watching Vin Diesel movies)? Kate Mara is one of my favorite actresses, but she was so cold and aloof during the movie I bordered on disliking her character. Bell was just awful throughout. Teller showed some moments, but was mediocre as well.
I thought it was crap end to end I really like Michael Jordan (both of them), but hated his Johnny Storm. He was nothing in life but a punk who wanted to drive fast. Exactly why would most people identify with that (unless they spend all their time watching Vin Diesel movies)? Kate Mara is one of my favorite actresses, but she was so cold and aloof during the movie I bordered on disliking her character. Bell was just awful throughout. Teller showed some moments, but was mediocre as well. Kebbell was actually the only interesting character in the first half of the film.

We can agree that the second half was epically bad. There was literally nothing to like about it, no characters to identify with, and they again tried to turn Dr Doom from a brilliant mad scientist (the anti-Stark) to a superfoe with undefined powers that make little to no sense.

Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
6:23PM on 06/07/2016

Fantastic Four (2015) - The Documentary

Hmm. Interesting. So, perhaps it was the editing that mucked it up. Lots of questions and possible answers wrapped up in even more thoughts and opinions, circling and swirling into one enormous cluster fuck bigger than any smoke cloud this film produced--the makings for one incredibly revealing documentary one day. I am calling it.
Hmm. Interesting. So, perhaps it was the editing that mucked it up. Lots of questions and possible answers wrapped up in even more thoughts and opinions, circling and swirling into one enormous cluster fuck bigger than any smoke cloud this film produced--the makings for one incredibly revealing documentary one day. I am calling it.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
6:03PM on 06/07/2016
I'm sure the director's cut isn't much better considering how badly all of the characters were miscast and the fact that the film completely missed the tone of what makes the fantastic four so fantastic in the first place.
I'm sure the director's cut isn't much better considering how badly all of the characters were miscast and the fact that the film completely missed the tone of what makes the fantastic four so fantastic in the first place.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
6:47PM on 06/07/2016
You are probably right, but I wonder how much footage got left on the cutting room floor. That final cut had a lot of gaps so I am thinking there could be as much as an hour of extra footage.
You are probably right, but I wonder how much footage got left on the cutting room floor. That final cut had a lot of gaps so I am thinking there could be as much as an hour of extra footage.
5:40PM on 06/07/2016
I have to say that I'm intrigued as well. It still won't be the Fantastic Four movie that we wanted, but it will be an actual movie instead of the frankenstein monster of a film that we ultimately get.
I have to say that I'm intrigued as well. It still won't be the Fantastic Four movie that we wanted, but it will be an actual movie instead of the frankenstein monster of a film that we ultimately get.
Your Reply:



Please email me when someone replies to my comment
View All Comments

Latest Entertainment News Headlines


Top
Loading...

Featured Youtube Videos

Views and Counting

Movie Hottie Of The Week

More

Taboola