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01.14.2008
The upcoming Batman sequel just doesn't seem to be getting enough attention (hA Ha ha), so here's some recent bits to hit.

For starters, musician/chick-magnet John Mayer apparently got a pack of promo goodies from the joker himself: a nifty box from "Gotham Novelties" that included a playing card/invitation and the eerie-cool Ledg-oker T-shirt you see here. If you didn't get one, then John Mayer is clearly better than you. Check 'em out RIGHT HERE. (Thanks to 'Meister Evo' for the heads up!)

Also, director Chris Nolan briefly chatted about his villains to the LA Times: "Harvey Dent is a tragic figure, and his story is the backbone of this film. The Joker, he sort of cuts through the film -- he's got no story arc, he's just a force of nature tearing through. Heath has given an amazing performance in the role, it's really extraordinary."

Now, before all you Joker zealots jump on the bus to OMGWTF, think about it -- Nolan's comment, while lacking a lot of context, makes sense. Joker may be fun to watch, but he's not an especially intriguing character -- he's just a murderous loon without a conscience. Let's compare: Batman is a borderline schizophrenic who juggles life as a billionaire playboy with dressing up as a nocturnal mammal and punching thugs (and ninjas). Dent (later Two-Face) is an ambitious district attorney who becomes literally schizophrenic after horrific facial scarring. Joker's basically a homicidal nutjob (with an apparent makeup fetish) who does what he does for the joy of being evil; the last time filmmakers tried to give him "depth", we got Jack Nicholson hamming it up for most of the movie's running time. I'll gladly take Nolan's approach instead, thanks.

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8:02AM on 01/16/2008

NOW LISTEN!

I LOVE TIM BURTON'S BATMAN, NOT BATMAN RETURNS, BUT BATMAN!!!

I don't know why when everyone saw Batman Begins everybody just decided to ditch a classic Batman film. I bet in 20 years from now, why they remake Batman agian everybody will call Batman Begins bullshit.

Anyways it makes sense, Joker is the Ra's Al-Ghul of The Dark Knight and Harvey Dent is the Scarecrow type for The Dark Knight, because in the end he'll get screwed and run away.
I LOVE TIM BURTON'S BATMAN, NOT BATMAN RETURNS, BUT BATMAN!!!

I don't know why when everyone saw Batman Begins everybody just decided to ditch a classic Batman film. I bet in 20 years from now, why they remake Batman agian everybody will call Batman Begins bullshit.

Anyways it makes sense, Joker is the Ra's Al-Ghul of The Dark Knight and Harvey Dent is the Scarecrow type for The Dark Knight, because in the end he'll get screwed and run away.
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10:55AM on 01/15/2008

Agree

I agree 100% good update!
People complained about the lack of a true villian in BB. But honestly, that was perfect. It gave a huge character development window for Bruce Wayne. Something that Tim Bourton never did.
I agree 100% good update!
People complained about the lack of a true villian in BB. But honestly, that was perfect. It gave a huge character development window for Bruce Wayne. Something that Tim Bourton never did.
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10:40AM on 01/15/2008
This is my first post and I just wanted to say that I cannot wait for this movie and am really hoping that Heath can pull off the performance of a lifetime and I have all my faith in Nolan! For all the TDK and Batman fans out there, here's a little spoof trailer to keep us all giggling - [link]
This is my first post and I just wanted to say that I cannot wait for this movie and am really hoping that Heath can pull off the performance of a lifetime and I have all my faith in Nolan! For all the TDK and Batman fans out there, here's a little spoof trailer to keep us all giggling - [link]
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9:08AM on 01/15/2008

YEP!

Nolan's version and Burton's version are two different takes on Batman. I trust Nolan 100% and I am sure he will deliver an awesome film.
Nolan's version and Burton's version are two different takes on Batman. I trust Nolan 100% and I am sure he will deliver an awesome film.
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4:05AM on 01/15/2008

I disagree

I don't get why people diss the original Batman '89 film to date, its still my favourite Batman film and Batman gets more screen time than the Joker, fact. And I'd much rather take Burton's take on Batman than Nolan's.

Nolan's just creating a big blockbuster film which has a little more depth than most and everybody goes gaga for it. Burton made a dark film noir fantasy from the off which truly delved into the man behind the mask but jsut so happened to have a budget of a blockbuster at the
I don't get why people diss the original Batman '89 film to date, its still my favourite Batman film and Batman gets more screen time than the Joker, fact. And I'd much rather take Burton's take on Batman than Nolan's.

Nolan's just creating a big blockbuster film which has a little more depth than most and everybody goes gaga for it. Burton made a dark film noir fantasy from the off which truly delved into the man behind the mask but jsut so happened to have a budget of a blockbuster at the time.
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1:52AM on 01/15/2008

His eyes

The way the blackness around his eyes goes together makes him resemble a racoon.

To make Harvey Dent the backbone of the story is a great idea. It's important that we get to know him proper before he becomes Two-Face, just like in The Long Halloween. One of the constituents that made that comic brilliant.
The way the blackness around his eyes goes together makes him resemble a racoon.

To make Harvey Dent the backbone of the story is a great idea. It's important that we get to know him proper before he becomes Two-Face, just like in The Long Halloween. One of the constituents that made that comic brilliant.
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12:18AM on 01/15/2008
He didn't say he was a random murderous loon, just that he had no story arc. His character doesn't start in one place emotionally and end in another. To me that sounds about right to me as the Joker generally stays pretty consistently fucking insane.

I definately think this is the right move storywise, I was beginning to worry Dent's character was just going to get lost in the shuffle.
He didn't say he was a random murderous loon, just that he had no story arc. His character doesn't start in one place emotionally and end in another. To me that sounds about right to me as the Joker generally stays pretty consistently fucking insane.

I definately think this is the right move storywise, I was beginning to worry Dent's character was just going to get lost in the shuffle.
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12:12AM on 01/15/2008
heyyy i want a package from the joker, well depends on what it is lol
heyyy i want a package from the joker, well depends on what it is lol
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11:46PM on 01/14/2008
No, the Joker is not an intriguing character at all. He isn't the yin to Batman's yang, or the chaos to his reason and order. Nope, the Joker is just a murderous loon, not a criminal mastermind or brilliant strategist. Yeah, I can see why Ledger's Joker will go over so well. Nobody gets the character anymore.
No, the Joker is not an intriguing character at all. He isn't the yin to Batman's yang, or the chaos to his reason and order. Nope, the Joker is just a murderous loon, not a criminal mastermind or brilliant strategist. Yeah, I can see why Ledger's Joker will go over so well. Nobody gets the character anymore.
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11:27PM on 01/14/2008
The two Batman franchises might be "comparable" to the Bond franchises but, hey, even you can admit that some Bonds were a zillion times better than others.

I think the same applies here.

And yes, that is me saying Christopher Nolan's Batman is a billion times better than Tim Burton's.

If Christopher Nolan told me I couldn't watch another one of his Batman films without taking a massive dump all over the earlier franchises, I would do it in a heartbeat.
The two Batman franchises might be "comparable" to the Bond franchises but, hey, even you can admit that some Bonds were a zillion times better than others.

I think the same applies here.

And yes, that is me saying Christopher Nolan's Batman is a billion times better than Tim Burton's.

If Christopher Nolan told me I couldn't watch another one of his Batman films without taking a massive dump all over the earlier franchises, I would do it in a heartbeat.
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11:18PM on 01/14/2008
The only thing that I am seriously worried about right now is if the Joker dies. Hopefully he is not in only one film and done like almost ever other villian in movies anymore.
The only thing that I am seriously worried about right now is if the Joker dies. Hopefully he is not in only one film and done like almost ever other villian in movies anymore.
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11:02PM on 01/14/2008

Old news

Wow, the Mayer story in particular, is REALLY old news. Weeks old. There's nothing wrong with Nicholson as the Joker. Not a damn thing. Different than Ledger's work (which looks phenomenal I agree) but Jack was a perfect in his own right. Kind of tired of all the praise heaped upon Batman Begins and it's sequel at the EXPENSE of the 1989 Batman. They were simply different versions of the same source material, like different Bonds. I love the Burton films too, and Jack certainly captured one of
Wow, the Mayer story in particular, is REALLY old news. Weeks old. There's nothing wrong with Nicholson as the Joker. Not a damn thing. Different than Ledger's work (which looks phenomenal I agree) but Jack was a perfect in his own right. Kind of tired of all the praise heaped upon Batman Begins and it's sequel at the EXPENSE of the 1989 Batman. They were simply different versions of the same source material, like different Bonds. I love the Burton films too, and Jack certainly captured one of the many Jokers that have graced the funny pages over the years.
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10:54PM on 01/14/2008
I really only wanted to make a simple comment but Joblo doesn't let me write less than 50 charachters... so here it goes:

In Nolan We Trust
I really only wanted to make a simple comment but Joblo doesn't let me write less than 50 charachters... so here it goes:

In Nolan We Trust
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10:28PM on 01/14/2008
The Joker shouldn't have a story arc, he should be exactly like Nolan said: A force of nature tearing through.

I'm glad that Harvey Dent is the backbone of this film. He's the sort of character that deserves the kind of focus. I heard that they've drawn from THE LONG HALLOWEEN for this one, if that's true then I'll be very pleased.
The Joker shouldn't have a story arc, he should be exactly like Nolan said: A force of nature tearing through.

I'm glad that Harvey Dent is the backbone of this film. He's the sort of character that deserves the kind of focus. I heard that they've drawn from THE LONG HALLOWEEN for this one, if that's true then I'll be very pleased.
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10:24PM on 01/14/2008
I gotta disagree with Davis, I think the Joker can be a compelling character in his own right, and doesn't have to be hammy or overdone. Just read "The Killing Joke" to see how he can carry a whole story.

But I'm fine with the direction they seem to be going in, whatevs. Two Face definitely needs some movie justice though, since he's never had a fitting on-screen representation (except of course for B:TAS).
I gotta disagree with Davis, I think the Joker can be a compelling character in his own right, and doesn't have to be hammy or overdone. Just read "The Killing Joke" to see how he can carry a whole story.

But I'm fine with the direction they seem to be going in, whatevs. Two Face definitely needs some movie justice though, since he's never had a fitting on-screen representation (except of course for B:TAS).
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9:40PM on 01/14/2008
Can't wait for Two-Face to get a respectable place in a Batman film. I'm sure most audiences know him as Tommy Lee Jones but hopefully Aaron Eckhart can change the picture.

After all, Two-Face is (at least in my book) one of the greatest comic book characters of all time, right next to Mr. J.
Can't wait for Two-Face to get a respectable place in a Batman film. I'm sure most audiences know him as Tommy Lee Jones but hopefully Aaron Eckhart can change the picture.

After all, Two-Face is (at least in my book) one of the greatest comic book characters of all time, right next to Mr. J.
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9:32PM on 01/14/2008
now that i really think about it there was never really a bad representation of the joker, from romero, to nicholson, to hamell. i have liked em all.
now that i really think about it there was never really a bad representation of the joker, from romero, to nicholson, to hamell. i have liked em all.
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9:26PM on 01/14/2008

I agree

This Joker should blow Jack's out of the water. I could care less about him wearing make up. I work for a company that uses chemicals and the chemist KNOWS of no chemical or mixture that would bleach someone out and turn their hair green without killing them at least. But hey thats fine for comics. This will be a great movie.
This Joker should blow Jack's out of the water. I could care less about him wearing make up. I work for a company that uses chemicals and the chemist KNOWS of no chemical or mixture that would bleach someone out and turn their hair green without killing them at least. But hey thats fine for comics. This will be a great movie.
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