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Transformers 4 will be co-financed and partially filmed in China

04.02.2013

This year, China will get their special cut of IRON MAN 3 and next year it will be TRANSFORMERS 4. It was announced that Michael Bay's next film will be co-financed by Chinese government operated China Movie Channel and Jiaflix Enterprises, which is run by former Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences head Sid Ganis.

TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON grossed $352 million in the United States and $771 million internationally. Of that total, $165 million of it came from China. The country is the largest consumer of US movies outside of North America which is why we are seeing more pro-Chinese elements in movies. Just look back to the remake of RED DAWN trading enemies from the Chinese to North Koreans. Whether they are politically Communist or not, China is economically capitalist and Hollywood is going to bank on it.

This growing trend will not be going anywhere soon. Up until now, pretty much all studio films from Hollywood are released overseas. But, it has been in recent years that global box office performance has taken precedence over domestic gross. Movies like HANSEL & GRETEL: WITCH HUNTERS get sequels because of total gross versus weak American box office performance. Movies in 3D have done exceptionally well and this has influenced release dates (G.I. JOE: RETALIATION) and directorial choices (PACIFIC RIM, STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS). Comedy 21 & OVER was the first movie to actually shoot additional footage for an alternate cut of a movie, followed by IRON MAN 3, and TRANSFORMERS 4 looks to follow that pattern. (Thanks for the reminder about 21 & OVER, Rukas),

TRANSFORMERS 4 could easily incorporate a global plot into the film so that the footage shot in China can be integrated into the final film, but a fully alternate cut featuring "special bonus footage" could happen as well. Either way, the Mark Wahlberg starring blockbuster begins filming this year for a June 27, 2014 release date.

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Source: LA Times

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6:20AM on 04/04/2013

BullS*it

I'm a Malaysian...i prefer Hollywood movies stays with american soil...If china wanna make a transformers movie..do their own movie...dun mixed up with swiss made atches with china made watches..different quality turnout..bad idea..michael bay become more & more sucks
I'm a Malaysian...i prefer Hollywood movies stays with american soil...If china wanna make a transformers movie..do their own movie...dun mixed up with swiss made atches with china made watches..different quality turnout..bad idea..michael bay become more & more sucks
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7:51AM on 04/03/2013
This is what happens when you have yrs upon yrs of government forcing Americans to do business out of the country. Every president since Reagan has had this same idea of this new world order and has been beating the hell out of American businesses making it cheaper for them to either move elsewhere or close up shop entirely. Its allowed the Chinese to equal and soon surpass us as the big dog in the world. It's funny only now that its starting to effect the way movies are being made that
This is what happens when you have yrs upon yrs of government forcing Americans to do business out of the country. Every president since Reagan has had this same idea of this new world order and has been beating the hell out of American businesses making it cheaper for them to either move elsewhere or close up shop entirely. Its allowed the Chinese to equal and soon surpass us as the big dog in the world. It's funny only now that its starting to effect the way movies are being made that people are noticing and or getting pissed about it. This is the bed we let the people we elect make and now we have to sleep in it.
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9:57PM on 04/02/2013
As for the growing trend of 'alternate cuts' for movies released in the Asia market...its probably only fair after decades of US studios butchering Asian films. Slapping new soundtracks on Tony Jaa movies, shoehorning Raymond Burr into Godzilla (TWICE!) Ever watch the dubbed American cut of 'Once Upon a Time in China?' Its unrecognizably awful.
As for the growing trend of 'alternate cuts' for movies released in the Asia market...its probably only fair after decades of US studios butchering Asian films. Slapping new soundtracks on Tony Jaa movies, shoehorning Raymond Burr into Godzilla (TWICE!) Ever watch the dubbed American cut of 'Once Upon a Time in China?' Its unrecognizably awful.
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9:56PM on 04/02/2013

I don't live in the States...

..and even I'm not too comfortable about this. I have nothing against China financing Hollywood productions or asking for big-budget films to be shot in China, but this trend of altering movies and incorporating Chinese elements in films seems to be taking over quick, hard, and without any real consideration. I'm just afraid it'll start with alternate endings and quickly turn into Chinese financiers dictating how the global cut of the movie should be. That'll really suck donkeyballs. If I
..and even I'm not too comfortable about this. I have nothing against China financing Hollywood productions or asking for big-budget films to be shot in China, but this trend of altering movies and incorporating Chinese elements in films seems to be taking over quick, hard, and without any real consideration. I'm just afraid it'll start with alternate endings and quickly turn into Chinese financiers dictating how the global cut of the movie should be. That'll really suck donkeyballs. If I wanted to see a movie with Chinese morals and beliefs, I'd watch a Chinese movie.

No offence to the people of China or Chinese people in general. This isn't a racial thing. It's just more of a "I like my Hollywood films to stay American" sort of thing. And I'm not even American.
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5:51AM on 04/03/2013
dude, when money talks we ALL listen. haven't you ever wondered when respected Asian actors or directors do Hollywood movie it usually ends up sucking and yet they have classic material on their resume's?

Thats what happens when someone whose financing your movie calls the shots. You have little to no creative control and that doomsday scenerio you've described is very much possible becuase the tables have turned.
dude, when money talks we ALL listen. haven't you ever wondered when respected Asian actors or directors do Hollywood movie it usually ends up sucking and yet they have classic material on their resume's?

Thats what happens when someone whose financing your movie calls the shots. You have little to no creative control and that doomsday scenerio you've described is very much possible becuase the tables have turned.
9:18PM on 04/02/2013
Japan has had an influence over hat you have watched as a result of Sony pictures and AXN, the latter being a cable TV channel that is available in Latin America, Europe and Asia which is devoted to showing American TV shows like CSI and NCIS. As a result, you ill continue to see CSI and its clones on TV long after Americans have stopped watching them.
Japan has had an influence over hat you have watched as a result of Sony pictures and AXN, the latter being a cable TV channel that is available in Latin America, Europe and Asia which is devoted to showing American TV shows like CSI and NCIS. As a result, you ill continue to see CSI and its clones on TV long after Americans have stopped watching them.
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8:35PM on 04/02/2013
Looper (arguably), 21 & Over, then Iron Man 3, then this and possibly Avatar 2...it's becoming more and more of a rather unfortunate (or otherwise) reality that Hollywood has to kneel before China.
Looper (arguably), 21 & Over, then Iron Man 3, then this and possibly Avatar 2...it's becoming more and more of a rather unfortunate (or otherwise) reality that Hollywood has to kneel before China.
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8:17PM on 04/02/2013

And this is why America is hurting for business.

Sure! Why not? It's not like the US could benefit from filming a major US summer blockbuster here.
Michael Bay: "Yeah right, like the guy in the $6,000 suit is going to spend lots of money to film another Transformers movie in the US. Come on!"
Sure! Why not? It's not like the US could benefit from filming a major US summer blockbuster here.
Michael Bay: "Yeah right, like the guy in the $6,000 suit is going to spend lots of money to film another Transformers movie in the US. Come on!"
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7:45PM on 04/02/2013
And no one in the movie can play any whatsoever joke regarding knock-off products otherwise the movie would be banned.
And no one in the movie can play any whatsoever joke regarding knock-off products otherwise the movie would be banned.
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6:33PM on 04/02/2013
I don't mind the partnership. But - it looks like US fans can no longer dictate the future of a film. Basically a film can be released that bombs in the States, but if it does well Globally - we're forced to see more of it. I agree with previous comments, the culture clash is too sharp.
I don't mind the partnership. But - it looks like US fans can no longer dictate the future of a film. Basically a film can be released that bombs in the States, but if it does well Globally - we're forced to see more of it. I agree with previous comments, the culture clash is too sharp.
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6:25PM on 04/02/2013

The Eagle bows down to the Dragon

Can't say i'm shocked because this was kinda foreshadowed in DOTM by the blatant product placement of Lenovo Computers.
Can't say i'm shocked because this was kinda foreshadowed in DOTM by the blatant product placement of Lenovo Computers.
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6:14PM on 04/02/2013

Our cultures are too different for this to be functional

Why should we cowtow to their morals/sense of storytelling, etc.? I understand America isn't the superpower it once was and China is gaining on us, plus they're a temperamental ally in keeping military issues in check, but I don't know how I feel about them dictating our movies now...
Why should we cowtow to their morals/sense of storytelling, etc.? I understand America isn't the superpower it once was and China is gaining on us, plus they're a temperamental ally in keeping military issues in check, but I don't know how I feel about them dictating our movies now...
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12:01AM on 04/03/2013
aside from the fact that they own the US's debt? and cant be to different if economically they bail the US out, and americans don't have a problem with the culture clash..
aside from the fact that they own the US's debt? and cant be to different if economically they bail the US out, and americans don't have a problem with the culture clash..
5:53PM on 04/02/2013
Michael Bay flicks are so horrifically predicated on awful racial stereotypes I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese version is completely different. Who knows, it might even be good.
Michael Bay flicks are so horrifically predicated on awful racial stereotypes I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese version is completely different. Who knows, it might even be good.
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5:48PM on 04/02/2013

Didnt 21 and Over do it first?

Im pretty sure I read on this very site that 21 & Over had an alternate ending for Chinese audiences where the kid goes back to China and the moral of the story is he was corrupted by evil Americans throughout the film?

21 & Over came out before Iron Man 3.
Im pretty sure I read on this very site that 21 & Over had an alternate ending for Chinese audiences where the kid goes back to China and the moral of the story is he was corrupted by evil Americans throughout the film?

21 & Over came out before Iron Man 3.
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6:04PM on 04/02/2013
Thanks for the reminder. Amended in the story!
Thanks for the reminder. Amended in the story!
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