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Aug. 20, 2008by: Mike Sampson

It's a story that could have been written for the past two or three months - there's trouble on the set of X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE. It's something that hasn't been a well-kept secret as a lot of us in the web world have heard the rumors from down under. But now Hollywood Elsewhere is reporting on a specific instance to backup the rumors of Fox's unhappiness with the film. The report claims Fox head Tom Rothman is using his powers to override the word of director Gavin Hood. It seems Fox and Rothman aren't exactly happy with the WOLVERINE movie. While that might initially bum you out, their unhappiness with the film is a good thing. Fox has reportedly been very unhappy with the "dark" tone of the film and is actively working to try and make it more "family friendly." Right, because that worked so well with FANTASTIC FOUR...

Hollywood Elsewhere says that Hood left the set for a brief period of time only to return and see a large set for the film had been completely repainted to make it brighter and give it less of a dark and somber vibe. I would think that with the success of THE DARK KNIGHT and the Comic-Con footage (which featured Wolverine telling Sabretooth he was going to rip his "goddamn head" off), that they might opt for a darker feel.

Now keep in mind that rumors of turmoil between Fox and Hood have been swirling for some time now and this is just one of the first leaked incidents to support those rumors. I'm sure as the project continues through editing and post-production we'll hear even more. Hopefully Fox will invite a few select journalists to some kind of pow-wow with Hood (perhaps in the edit bay) to help straighten all this out...

Extra Tidbit: Hood previously directed TSOTSI and RENDITION.

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11:03AM on 08/25/2008

damm

I already saw one comic movie gutted this year please don't make it 2. And for those that don't know, I'm talkin about "Wanted". It was a great action flick but about 90% of the comic was left out of the movie. That fukkin sucked.
I already saw one comic movie gutted this year please don't make it 2. And for those that don't know, I'm talkin about "Wanted". It was a great action flick but about 90% of the comic was left out of the movie. That fukkin sucked.
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10:10AM on 08/25/2008

Wolverine Movie Buzz

Great! The studio is trying to turn Wolverine Origins into a Disney (Hannah Montanna) film.Wolverine Orings should be three times darker than the The Dark Knight movie.Why mess up a Wolverine movie,can't they screw up an unpopular comic book movie?
Great! The studio is trying to turn Wolverine Origins into a Disney (Hannah Montanna) film.Wolverine Orings should be three times darker than the The Dark Knight movie.Why mess up a Wolverine movie,can't they screw up an unpopular comic book movie?
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5:23AM on 08/22/2008
Fox are idiots. Why don't they turn it into a musical while they're at it.
Fox are idiots. Why don't they turn it into a musical while they're at it.
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11:48PM on 08/21/2008

Last weeks...

... untrue rumor for Punisher should be a lesson that we shouldn't waste too much of our time on them and wait for real news.

I've been begging for a more adult comic book movie for a while, and I doubt Wolverine will be it, but here's to holding out hope. I'm thinking Punisher or Watchmen will end up filling the bill on that account.
... untrue rumor for Punisher should be a lesson that we shouldn't waste too much of our time on them and wait for real news.

I've been begging for a more adult comic book movie for a while, and I doubt Wolverine will be it, but here's to holding out hope. I'm thinking Punisher or Watchmen will end up filling the bill on that account.
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12:53PM on 08/21/2008

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"Fox sucks....totally and without inhibition. They are the GW Bush of studios. "

I love the comparison of world politics to a comicbook movie. Fanboys are so hardcore d00d!

I bet that poster has lots of bumper stickers on his car pronouncing his views on religion and his political beliefs! How eXtreme!!!
"Fox sucks....totally and without inhibition. They are the GW Bush of studios. "

I love the comparison of world politics to a comicbook movie. Fanboys are so hardcore d00d!

I bet that poster has lots of bumper stickers on his car pronouncing his views on religion and his political beliefs! How eXtreme!!!
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12:39PM on 08/21/2008

FOX sucks

This is the second movie FOX is trying to ruin in the past few weeks, the Hobbit being the other. Most of movies profits comes from rentals and dvd sales. No one wants to buy Fantastic Four type movies. Kids don't have money, but the rest of us do. Leave the kids movies to Pixar and Disney.
This is the second movie FOX is trying to ruin in the past few weeks, the Hobbit being the other. Most of movies profits comes from rentals and dvd sales. No one wants to buy Fantastic Four type movies. Kids don't have money, but the rest of us do. Leave the kids movies to Pixar and Disney.
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12:09AM on 08/21/2008
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK FOX!

Must they ruin every single movie they touch? They turned Hitman, Die Hard, and countless other movies into abominations, all in the name of money. They must be completely retarded.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK FOX!

Must they ruin every single movie they touch? They turned Hitman, Die Hard, and countless other movies into abominations, all in the name of money. They must be completely retarded.
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11:01PM on 08/20/2008
What's Fox trying to go the old Batman route of making a movie just to sell shit-loads of toys? I'd check it out anyway, but darker does sell better (TDK).
What's Fox trying to go the old Batman route of making a movie just to sell shit-loads of toys? I'd check it out anyway, but darker does sell better (TDK).
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10:52PM on 08/20/2008

look at dark knight

Dark Knight is prolly concidered a "dark" movie and I would say it's a hard PG-13. Look at how it's doing....who cares....if it scares the kiddies...then they can go home and watch sponge bob!

Give me my mean, pissed off hairy woverine dam-it!
Dark Knight is prolly concidered a "dark" movie and I would say it's a hard PG-13. Look at how it's doing....who cares....if it scares the kiddies...then they can go home and watch sponge bob!

Give me my mean, pissed off hairy woverine dam-it!
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9:29PM on 08/20/2008
Damn you, FOX. Damn you. Start looking at the comic books and not the marketing reports you money hungry whores.
Damn you, FOX. Damn you. Start looking at the comic books and not the marketing reports you money hungry whores.
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8:23PM on 08/20/2008

Gah...Fox sucks

Fox sucks....totally and without inhibition. They are the GW Bush of studios. First Watchmen and now this. Someone needs to run these shits out of town.

On a non-related note...Arrow...you still da man.
Fox sucks....totally and without inhibition. They are the GW Bush of studios. First Watchmen and now this. Someone needs to run these shits out of town.

On a non-related note...Arrow...you still da man.
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7:45PM on 08/20/2008

what the fuck!!!

FOX needs to take their heads out their asses and grow some balls to finally give us a good X-MEN film (after X3) THEY FUCKING OWE THE FANS BIG TIME! so their trying to make a 'family friendly" WOLVERINE movie?!? c'mon it's fucking WOLVERINE! this film shouldn't be anything near family friendly, THEY BETTER NOT FUCK IT UP AGAIN!
FOX needs to take their heads out their asses and grow some balls to finally give us a good X-MEN film (after X3) THEY FUCKING OWE THE FANS BIG TIME! so their trying to make a 'family friendly" WOLVERINE movie?!? c'mon it's fucking WOLVERINE! this film shouldn't be anything near family friendly, THEY BETTER NOT FUCK IT UP AGAIN!
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7:26PM on 08/20/2008
Jesus Christ. Fucking movie studio cunts.
Jesus Christ. Fucking movie studio cunts.
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7:00PM on 08/20/2008
Fuck Fox! Haven't they seen the success of the Dark Knight? A very dark film it was. The wolverine trailer was great! Especially the last line.. they better not take it out.
Fuck Fox! Haven't they seen the success of the Dark Knight? A very dark film it was. The wolverine trailer was great! Especially the last line.. they better not take it out.
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6:31PM on 08/20/2008
Who else thinks were gonna have to wait for a directors cut for this to be good now? Can I get a big collective "FUCK YOU SUIT"!
Who else thinks were gonna have to wait for a directors cut for this to be good now? Can I get a big collective "FUCK YOU SUIT"!
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5:55PM on 08/20/2008

Wow!

Tom Rothman must be the biggest idiot on the planet. If Fox screws with Gavin Hood's original vision, I'll wait for the director's cut dvd.
Tom Rothman must be the biggest idiot on the planet. If Fox screws with Gavin Hood's original vision, I'll wait for the director's cut dvd.
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4:47PM on 08/20/2008

the great

BILLY WALSH would say...

"Good thing I dont give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks. You gota love final cut"

"Fuck you Suit"

Where is he when you need him?
BILLY WALSH would say...

"Good thing I dont give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks. You gota love final cut"

"Fuck you Suit"

Where is he when you need him?
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3:39PM on 08/20/2008
There's really not much I can say about this, except, well ... figures.

On a side note (spoiler for non-comic readers), does this mean that Silver Fox won't get raped and murdered?
There's really not much I can say about this, except, well ... figures.

On a side note (spoiler for non-comic readers), does this mean that Silver Fox won't get raped and murdered?
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3:11PM on 08/20/2008

Googfy

Did those idiots at Fox not see the success of Dark Night? When it comes to movie sales "dark" good "family oriented" bad.
Did those idiots at Fox not see the success of Dark Night? When it comes to movie sales "dark" good "family oriented" bad.
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2:50PM on 08/20/2008

FOX LOST IT

First attack on Watchmen, now this. Personally, I think Warner is the best studio where you can make movie today, heave you seen many Warner movies with director's cut?
First attack on Watchmen, now this. Personally, I think Warner is the best studio where you can make movie today, heave you seen many Warner movies with director's cut?
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2:40PM on 08/20/2008

FUCK THESE PEOPLE!!

Yes, Fox seems determined to ruin two of the potentially best movies of next year (this and Watchmen).

Wolverine = family friendly? What next? A Punisher: War Zone McDonalds happy meal tie-in???

Clearly Fox has no idea what makes these characters tick & what makes us the audience come back for more. Marvel, please take up the reins of all your comic film properties!!
Yes, Fox seems determined to ruin two of the potentially best movies of next year (this and Watchmen).

Wolverine = family friendly? What next? A Punisher: War Zone McDonalds happy meal tie-in???

Clearly Fox has no idea what makes these characters tick & what makes us the audience come back for more. Marvel, please take up the reins of all your comic film properties!!
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2:03PM on 08/20/2008
So in the upcoming season of Heroes, are we going to see villains like the Fox executives?
So in the upcoming season of Heroes, are we going to see villains like the Fox executives?
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1:24PM on 08/20/2008
1st they decide to fuck around with Watchmen so damn late in it's impending release then they decide to try to make Wolverine "family-friendly" ...

Will someone please send Fox a couple of molotovs? I'll gladly pay for shipping...
1st they decide to fuck around with Watchmen so damn late in it's impending release then they decide to try to make Wolverine "family-friendly" ...

Will someone please send Fox a couple of molotovs? I'll gladly pay for shipping...
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1:12PM on 08/20/2008
Wow. Do these studios hire people without thinking what the outcome would be? They should have known from day 1 a Wolverine movie directed by Gavin Hood would be dark.

Oh and Balboa6, the Harry Potter movies are super watered down. I always thought all of the books were dark, even elements of the first. The movies [except for the amazing 3rd one] don't come close to emulating that.
Wow. Do these studios hire people without thinking what the outcome would be? They should have known from day 1 a Wolverine movie directed by Gavin Hood would be dark.

Oh and Balboa6, the Harry Potter movies are super watered down. I always thought all of the books were dark, even elements of the first. The movies [except for the amazing 3rd one] don't come close to emulating that.
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1:03PM on 08/20/2008

SON-OF-A...

will somebody walk into the executive's office who thought that a kid-friendly WOLVERINE movie is a better way to go, and squarely kick him in the balls!!!
you wanna make some money on this movie leave it dark...this ain't no fancy crappy Fantastic Four movie...the man HAS CLAWS THAT COME OUT BETWEEN HIS FINGERS!!!! He ain't using them to make pot-pourri!!!
will somebody walk into the executive's office who thought that a kid-friendly WOLVERINE movie is a better way to go, and squarely kick him in the balls!!!
you wanna make some money on this movie leave it dark...this ain't no fancy crappy Fantastic Four movie...the man HAS CLAWS THAT COME OUT BETWEEN HIS FINGERS!!!! He ain't using them to make pot-pourri!!!
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12:58PM on 08/20/2008
FUCK THOSE FUCKIN' FUCKTARDS! I swear those fuckers are out to ruin every fuckin' comic-book movie that goes through them. I'd really like to go up to Fox Studios and kick all those fuckin' execs in the nuts.
FUCK THOSE FUCKIN' FUCKTARDS! I swear those fuckers are out to ruin every fuckin' comic-book movie that goes through them. I'd really like to go up to Fox Studios and kick all those fuckin' execs in the nuts.
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12:48PM on 08/20/2008

In the words of every Star Wars Flick

I've got a bad feeling about this...
I've got a bad feeling about this...
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12:25PM on 08/20/2008
FOX should be buried alive. I fucking hate that studio. They're putting their filthy hands on everything nowadays. If it was up to them, "Watchmen" would be PG-13, run about 90 minutes, and be directed by Brett Ratner. Fuck 'em, they either don't understand what the fans want or don't care.
FOX should be buried alive. I fucking hate that studio. They're putting their filthy hands on everything nowadays. If it was up to them, "Watchmen" would be PG-13, run about 90 minutes, and be directed by Brett Ratner. Fuck 'em, they either don't understand what the fans want or don't care.
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11:52AM on 08/20/2008

A buh?!?

I don't understand why studios hire directors who make dark movies when they really want a family friendly film. The guy made Tsotsi and Rendition. Both were pretty fucking dark (in tone and lighting). So why the hell would they hire this guy if they want a light family film? Do studio heads hire people without knowing anything about the films they made before? If you wanted a light family film, you should have hired the guy who made that god damned Chipmunks flick.

It feels like this
I don't understand why studios hire directors who make dark movies when they really want a family friendly film. The guy made Tsotsi and Rendition. Both were pretty fucking dark (in tone and lighting). So why the hell would they hire this guy if they want a light family film? Do studio heads hire people without knowing anything about the films they made before? If you wanted a light family film, you should have hired the guy who made that god damned Chipmunks flick.

It feels like this happens a lot now, where studios hire a visionary director to shoot something and then bitch about his vision. The biggest current case of this I can think of is the whole Spike Jonze/Where the Wild Things Are debacle. If you wanted a cookie cutter movie, you shouldn't have hired Spike Jonze! Where did all the trust go for directors who have earned it?
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11:42AM on 08/20/2008

Really

Gavin Hood is not an action director. Period.

A friend of mine was working on the set in Australia and said that second unit was doing a lot more than they should have, and that Fox eventually told Hood to go back to the states to start working with the editors.

I thought that the trailer looked okay, but I'm certainly not expecting much.
Gavin Hood is not an action director. Period.

A friend of mine was working on the set in Australia and said that second unit was doing a lot more than they should have, and that Fox eventually told Hood to go back to the states to start working with the editors.

I thought that the trailer looked okay, but I'm certainly not expecting much.
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11:26AM on 08/20/2008
Yawn. Whatever, I'm starting to get sick of origin stories with these comic book movies. I can't wait until the Fall season when actual decent made films are released rather than another comic flick.
Yawn. Whatever, I'm starting to get sick of origin stories with these comic book movies. I can't wait until the Fall season when actual decent made films are released rather than another comic flick.
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10:58AM on 08/20/2008
Oh of course! Water it down and make it for all the stupid little brats! God, I just LOATHE Hollywood.

It's amazing Harry Potter goes darker and darker with each installment, and nothing is watered down, and yet Wolverine, which although is completely different is just as dark and gritty, has to be watered down. I'm sick and tired of getting screwed over by these greedy studio executives.
Oh of course! Water it down and make it for all the stupid little brats! God, I just LOATHE Hollywood.

It's amazing Harry Potter goes darker and darker with each installment, and nothing is watered down, and yet Wolverine, which although is completely different is just as dark and gritty, has to be watered down. I'm sick and tired of getting screwed over by these greedy studio executives.
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10:50AM on 08/20/2008
Fox sucks, what is their deal? Fire all of these execs and get some people who know what their doing.
Fox sucks, what is their deal? Fire all of these execs and get some people who know what their doing.
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10:39AM on 08/20/2008

conspiracy?

directors cut i hope?!?!

they're probably just fucking it up so they can make mad cash on a double dip...

or maybe they're going to release the special directors cut on Blu-ray
so people who hate HD will have to get a hd setup

directors cut i hope?!?!

they're probably just fucking it up so they can make mad cash on a double dip...

or maybe they're going to release the special directors cut on Blu-ray
so people who hate HD will have to get a hd setup

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10:37AM on 08/20/2008
Fucking idiots. Thats all theres left to be said. Fucking idiots. I have no idea how these guys got their jobs...its unbeliavable!
Fucking idiots. Thats all theres left to be said. Fucking idiots. I have no idea how these guys got their jobs...its unbeliavable!
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10:34AM on 08/20/2008

Who gives a shit?

Look let's face it, there hasn't been a good movie based on a marvel comic in a long while. X Men 3- awful in every way shape and from, spiderman 3-crap, fantastic four 1 and 2- crap, Hulk (both of them)- crap, Punisher-Crap. Iron man was only half watchable because of Robert Downey Jr, if it hadn't have been for him it would of been crap. The formula has run dry and is no longer interesting. This film just doesn't sound interesting to me, Hugh Jackman is amazing as Wolverine don't get me
Look let's face it, there hasn't been a good movie based on a marvel comic in a long while. X Men 3- awful in every way shape and from, spiderman 3-crap, fantastic four 1 and 2- crap, Hulk (both of them)- crap, Punisher-Crap. Iron man was only half watchable because of Robert Downey Jr, if it hadn't have been for him it would of been crap. The formula has run dry and is no longer interesting. This film just doesn't sound interesting to me, Hugh Jackman is amazing as Wolverine don't get me wrong, but I can't look at him with those claws without being reminded how bad X Men 3 was.
It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that FOX wants it to be more 'family friendly' because their a bunch of money grabbing cock suckers who don't care if a movie is good or not, just so long as it makes money.

In fact fuck Marvel! Thinking about it, what good films have there been other than X Men 1 and 2 and Spiderman 1 and 2?
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9:45AM on 08/20/2008

FUCK FOX!!!!!!!

Now, admittedly, not EVERY comic-book movie has to be some dark "TDK" knock-off. That will become a bad cliche unto itself.

But, having said that: WOLVERINE'S ORIGIN IS DARK!!!!!! PICK YOUR FUCKING BATTLES YOU PIECE OF SHIT RETARDED STUDIO! FIRST "WATCHMEN" AND NOW THIS!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!! OH YEAH, FORGOT, YOU ALSO FUND FOX NEWS!!!!

Sorry about that. I don't usually get so venemous, but I just can't stand these two super dick moves in a week, and probably more along
Now, admittedly, not EVERY comic-book movie has to be some dark "TDK" knock-off. That will become a bad cliche unto itself.

But, having said that: WOLVERINE'S ORIGIN IS DARK!!!!!! PICK YOUR FUCKING BATTLES YOU PIECE OF SHIT RETARDED STUDIO! FIRST "WATCHMEN" AND NOW THIS!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!! OH YEAH, FORGOT, YOU ALSO FUND FOX NEWS!!!!

Sorry about that. I don't usually get so venemous, but I just can't stand these two super dick moves in a week, and probably more along the way.
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9:33AM on 08/20/2008
Sounds like Fox is going full retard.

Whats with them? They're fucking up the Watchmen for WB and now this?
Sounds like Fox is going full retard.

Whats with them? They're fucking up the Watchmen for WB and now this?
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9:30AM on 08/20/2008

Well, to say the truth

that teaser from the Comic-Con gave me a vibe, in a big way, of the last X-Men movie... and that isn't a good thing.
that teaser from the Comic-Con gave me a vibe, in a big way, of the last X-Men movie... and that isn't a good thing.
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9:28AM on 08/20/2008
these scary ass hollywood exec's....fuck'em all! warner bros. & fox are really pissing me off! let it be dark dammit! let this story be told the way it was meant to be told! the last time I checked, there was aboslutely nothing cheery about wolverine!
these scary ass hollywood exec's....fuck'em all! warner bros. & fox are really pissing me off! let it be dark dammit! let this story be told the way it was meant to be told! the last time I checked, there was aboslutely nothing cheery about wolverine!
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9:25AM on 08/20/2008
.....first Punisher and now (possibly) this?!

This is getting ridiculous. How is no one learning from The Dark Knight. You would've thought every studio would be buying/making their own Batman clones and shooting them out like some sort of crazy log ride.
.....first Punisher and now (possibly) this?!

This is getting ridiculous. How is no one learning from The Dark Knight. You would've thought every studio would be buying/making their own Batman clones and shooting them out like some sort of crazy log ride.
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9:15AM on 08/20/2008
How in the hell do these guys get their fucking jobs! Obviously it doesn't require intellect or talent.

Fox...leave the damn movie alone you idiots!
How in the hell do these guys get their fucking jobs! Obviously it doesn't require intellect or talent.

Fox...leave the damn movie alone you idiots!
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9:04AM on 08/20/2008

PLEASE!

Dear Studio Execs, please don't fuck with this movie. Leave it alone!! Why does everything have to be family friendly?
Dear Studio Execs, please don't fuck with this movie. Leave it alone!! Why does everything have to be family friendly?
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8:34AM on 08/20/2008
For fuck sake, man!! It's a dark story, afaik Woverine's origins are shrouded in the blackest of black depths of a really dark bit of a dark place where's there's alot of dark. I'm sure Hood won't be taking this lightly ( no pun intended ) because this is what the fans have been wanting to see for so long then the execs come in and try and sprinkle some glitter on it to get the kids in. Sorry kids, this one's not for you. They have had their family friendly Wolvie, they had three movies of him
For fuck sake, man!! It's a dark story, afaik Woverine's origins are shrouded in the blackest of black depths of a really dark bit of a dark place where's there's alot of dark. I'm sure Hood won't be taking this lightly ( no pun intended ) because this is what the fans have been wanting to see for so long then the execs come in and try and sprinkle some glitter on it to get the kids in. Sorry kids, this one's not for you. They have had their family friendly Wolvie, they had three movies of him so for the love of fuck let us have this one to ourselves
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