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UNpopular Opinion: The Departed

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Written by: Felix Vasquez Jr.

THE UNPOPULAR OPINION is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the writer LOVED, but that most others LOATHED. We're hoping this column will promote constructive and geek fueled discussion. Enjoy!

Wai-keung Lau, and Alan Mak 2002 crime thriller entitled "Infernal Affairs" is one of the most unique and richly complex films about identity and the job that demands the loss of one in the face of bringing down crime all around it. By the time "Infernal Affairs" has ended, it's not only finished with a climax that shows that the line between good and evil is completely unfocused, but that the character whose search for identity lives with him throughout the premise of the film that consistently eludes him, is found with death. And by the time the villain has destroyed his nemesis, his identity still lingers. "Infernal Affairs" is a film that delves in to karma, fate, and what we define as a true identity in a world filled with thinning lines of morality.

"The Departed" has none of those rich themes. In fact it's so void of the sheer complexity of the rich irony and tapestry of emotions the original heralded that it's much more in line with a straight to DVD thriller than an Oscar Worthy attempt by Martin Scorsese. Oh, I'm not the first to have said this about the 2008's "The Departed."

But sadly, I'm one of the few. And I'm okay with that. Because sitting down to watch "The Departed" was akin to watching an under performing child given a pat on the back thanks to expectations and not so much what they delivered to you at the end of the day. The best way to sum up "The Departed" is as a clumsy and oafish crime thriller bereft of the usual devices the original film strived in bringing to the crime genre, and is so easily picked at that even "The Simpsons" had an easy time satirizing it. A past its prime television show from the nineties so easily destroyed the base of the film's entire premise it was like shooting fish in a barrel.

I can still fondly recall Ralph Wiggum looking at the rat on the window sill muttering "The rat symbolizes obviousness!"

And all I could think was "Yes! Finally someone mocks that scene."

Because at the end of the day that's all "The Departed" was for most people. It was an obvious thriller with obvious takes on morality that was granted a free ride thanks to the inability of its director to create something original that could garner him an Oscar win. And I'm glad he won, I'm happy for him, I just sit here wondering why "The Departed" is still considered such a stellar film. People even mocked him to some degree when he won that the only way he could win the Academy's favor was to remake another movie that's still vastly superior.

Many have even insisted it being Scorsese's supreme masterpiece, even over the likes of "Taxi Driver" and or "Goodfellas." Seriously? "Taxi Driver"? The ultimate crime drama is a remake that completely watered down the premise of its original creation and even sullied much of its competent takes on karma and fate that made the original film so much more than a formula crime thriller and held it in to a place in the genre that was spiritual even if reality based. Almost like "Rashomon" in a sense, where one story was never enough to grasp the severity of this story.

The first indication that this film is merely nothing but a watered down successor is that Scorsese immediately does away with the plaster cast plot device and opts instead for modern convenience. In the original film, Inspector Lau Kin Ming had a plaster cast because this allowed him to communicate with authorities outside of the base where the gangs would meet up. The plaster cast served as a shield that allowed him to tap his finger along the window sill communicating in Morse code to his contacts that could then signal in on when and where the gangs were meeting.

Instead, in a swift move, Scorsese destroys the intelligent device behind that that could influence a new take on American crime dramas and instead just uses the cast as a character piece and outright clumsy prop that slowed down the character Billy in his efforts to solve this all consuming case, and rather than using the cast to his advantage, he simply communicated through a cell phone with numbers and symbols. Wow, I've never seen that before.

Beyond that nagging bit of watered down hokum, Scorsese seems less inclined to guide his film in to crime thriller legendary status and instead just lets his cast lead him, it's clearly the sign of a director who holds no grasp of what character motivations can lead the story in to its sink hole of chaos and carnage by the final half that completely dizzies the audience in to submission.

Can anyone really tell me that Jack Nicholson was anyone but Jack Nicholson in his role as mob boss Frank Costello? Scorsese seemed to inclined to allow Nicholson carte blanche on screen giving him the opportunity to just be Jack Nicholson. Did we really see anything new or unique with Frank Costello that we haven't seen in "The Shining" or "Batman" or even "As Good as It Gets"? There are moments of sheer absurdity and absolute baffling improv throughout Nicholson's time on-screen that left me thinking "They must have thought that would have been a genius move on-screen." Take for example the moment where Costello leans in for a cigarette and shushes right hand man Ray Winstone with a grin.

What is the point of that? Why did it have to be included? There are times throughout the movie where I wondered as to why there was such a necessary inclusion and why Scorsese felt he had to water down and dumb down the material to hold our hands throughout most of the story of "The Departed." Take for example the CGI rat in the final scene of "The Departed." Sure, if you like clumsy hand on the nose symbolism, the rat is a fine finisher, but as it stands it's clearly the mark of a director and or studio who had no faith in its final product and audiences intelligence enough to warrant a sharp bit of subtle symbolism that didn't clumsily lay a rat on the window sill and say "See? Because Damon is the rat! Or is Wahlberg the rat? Think about that!"

Are the performances good? Sure. Are they Oscar worthy? Not at all. And I insist with the utmost zeal that there isn't a single Oscar worthy performance in the bunch, including Mark Wahlberg who scored a nomination for playing Wahlberg. And that's all he was at the end of the day, even with his interaction with the final dunderheaded half of "The Departed" that completely did away with all of the closing scenes of the original film leaving the audience to think about who among these individuals have won the war, and who among them is still imprisoned, and just tacks on a moment where Sgt. Dignam wreaks pure revenge on Colin Sullivan.

Because god forbid we should leave on a thought provoking finale, right? We have to end on a stylish revenge sequence or else the audience may not grasp what you're going for. Or maybe Scorsese just plays the American audience for saps and thinks by now he has to spell everything out as opposed to the days where "Taxi Driver" told a story without explaining every single beat to us to keep us calm and collected at night.

"The Departed" is not a masterpiece, not by any definition of the word. And while it is a watchable bit of crime thriller fare with competent performances, its purpose is like every other remake in the last ten years. To take the unique premise from Hong Kong that was like a hard drink on a cold night, and just water and dumb it down as much as possible to make the ride more easier to follow and simpler for a movie going mass that appreciates being led by the hand.

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1:07PM on 04/04/2011

Poor Scorese

He won an oscar for a remake of a asian hit. He should have won for anyone of his many original stories...Infernal Affairs was a better film b/c it was the original and The Departed didn't add anything to the story. Don't remake a film unless you can add something that was missing from the first. Why do Americans (Which I am) have to have their own movies with American stars? Can't we just enjoy a story even if it has subtitles? Seriously...
He won an oscar for a remake of a asian hit. He should have won for anyone of his many original stories...Infernal Affairs was a better film b/c it was the original and The Departed didn't add anything to the story. Don't remake a film unless you can add something that was missing from the first. Why do Americans (Which I am) have to have their own movies with American stars? Can't we just enjoy a story even if it has subtitles? Seriously...
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6:52PM on 03/25/2011
I don't get all the praise for Infernal Affairs. I thought the pacing on that film was all over the place, the characters were not layed out very well by the director, the acting was ok but inferior to The Departed, the music choices really bothered me and didn't fit the tone of the film to me at all. Sam didn't feel at all threatening to me at all but Frank Costello was. It seems like another case of the foreign film is better because it's foreign.
I don't get all the praise for Infernal Affairs. I thought the pacing on that film was all over the place, the characters were not layed out very well by the director, the acting was ok but inferior to The Departed, the music choices really bothered me and didn't fit the tone of the film to me at all. Sam didn't feel at all threatening to me at all but Frank Costello was. It seems like another case of the foreign film is better because it's foreign.
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10:46PM on 03/18/2011
I have never seen Infernal Affairs but i love the departed. I mean sure there are flaws to it but i really enjoy it as i do most MS films. I think its interesting to hear opposite opinions on movies so i always love reading this column.
I have never seen Infernal Affairs but i love the departed. I mean sure there are flaws to it but i really enjoy it as i do most MS films. I think its interesting to hear opposite opinions on movies so i always love reading this column.
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6:19PM on 03/18/2011
Foreign movie > American Movie

That sums it up. You couldn't even get the year right in which the film was made.
Foreign movie > American Movie

That sums it up. You couldn't even get the year right in which the film was made.
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11:39AM on 03/18/2011
I am so glad i saw Infernal Affairs first,so at least i can say with 100% authority it was by far the better film. I agree with you completely. While the departed was an enjoyable movie, it was by no means an oscar worthy one.
I am so glad i saw Infernal Affairs first,so at least i can say with 100% authority it was by far the better film. I agree with you completely. While the departed was an enjoyable movie, it was by no means an oscar worthy one.
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6:48AM on 03/18/2011

How many times can Scorses insert "Gimme Shelter" into his films?

The Departed is probably my least favourite Scorsese film, I agree that Infernal Affairs works better
The Departed is probably my least favourite Scorsese film, I agree that Infernal Affairs works better
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2:03AM on 03/19/2011
If The Departed is your least favorite Scorsese film, then you probably haven't seen Bringing Out The Dead.
If The Departed is your least favorite Scorsese film, then you probably haven't seen Bringing Out The Dead.
6:08AM on 03/18/2011
I'll still take it over the more vastly overrated "GoodFellas" any day of the week. : P
I'll still take it over the more vastly overrated "GoodFellas" any day of the week. : P
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3:30AM on 03/18/2011

FINALLY!

The Departed was a lot like Inglorious Basterds for me. It was an amazing concept that didn't quite get where it needed to be. Infernal Affairs was simply incredible and deserves A LOT more recognition than it gets. Good article, man.
The Departed was a lot like Inglorious Basterds for me. It was an amazing concept that didn't quite get where it needed to be. Infernal Affairs was simply incredible and deserves A LOT more recognition than it gets. Good article, man.
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2:06AM on 03/18/2011
I love the Unpopular Opinion series as a concept, but respectfully this time around I disagree. The Departed was great, if a little long. It definitely has one of the top ten best movie endings, were I to formulate such a list.
I love the Unpopular Opinion series as a concept, but respectfully this time around I disagree. The Departed was great, if a little long. It definitely has one of the top ten best movie endings, were I to formulate such a list.
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11:43PM on 03/17/2011
It came out in 2006 not 08
It came out in 2006 not 08
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11:13PM on 03/17/2011

Good Article

The Departed, like most Scorsese films, is vastly overrated.
The Departed, like most Scorsese films, is vastly overrated.
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11:02PM on 03/17/2011
I am amazed why so many of you find it so hard to believe that not everyone thinks this movie is all that great. Sorry to piss in your punch bowl but, there are obviously those of us who prefer the original to Scorsese's unnecessary remake and for that matter, not all of us worship the ground Mr. Scorsese walks on. He's made some great movies but hasn't done anything really classic since Goodfellas. But for some reason, everytime he takes a dump, everyone calls it gold. In my opinion he hasn't
I am amazed why so many of you find it so hard to believe that not everyone thinks this movie is all that great. Sorry to piss in your punch bowl but, there are obviously those of us who prefer the original to Scorsese's unnecessary remake and for that matter, not all of us worship the ground Mr. Scorsese walks on. He's made some great movies but hasn't done anything really classic since Goodfellas. But for some reason, everytime he takes a dump, everyone calls it gold. In my opinion he hasn't made a truely great movie in 20 years and all the thumbs downs here aren't going to change my mind.
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12:22AM on 03/18/2011
It's not soo much that he dislikes the movie, it's that almost his entire reasoning is that he considers the original to be so damn good. He barely talks about "The Departed" on it's own and never discusses how it holds up as it's own entity. It's just so hard to take this argument seriously because it's jsut- "Hey, I don't like this movie because the original is better. Enough said." There needs to be soo much more to an argument work, and since this comes off more as a biased compare and
It's not soo much that he dislikes the movie, it's that almost his entire reasoning is that he considers the original to be so damn good. He barely talks about "The Departed" on it's own and never discusses how it holds up as it's own entity. It's just so hard to take this argument seriously because it's jsut- "Hey, I don't like this movie because the original is better. Enough said." There needs to be soo much more to an argument work, and since this comes off more as a biased compare and contrast as oppose to a true look at the fault's of a movie that won Oscars and many people loved. This is a desperate "Look at how hip I am, I know of a slightly obscure Asian film that influenced a Scorese flick!"

To be noted, I am not a Scorese-phile, "Shutter Island" was bad as hell, and "Casino" wasn't all that, so I'm not coming at this from some fan with my head up Scorese's ass. "The Departed" has faults but the author barely covers them because he's too damn busy spewing off about the admittly great original.
9:27AM on 03/18/2011
You make some very good points "filmguy450" and your response is very well written. Film SHOULD inspire discussion not juvenille insults and tantrums just because someone doesn't sway to popular opinion. Good for you.
You make some very good points "filmguy450" and your response is very well written. Film SHOULD inspire discussion not juvenille insults and tantrums just because someone doesn't sway to popular opinion. Good for you.
10:53PM on 03/17/2011
I don't get why there is a complaint about The Simpson's doing a comedic spoof of the Departed? Isn't that what all spoofs do, strip a story down to its most basic elements and make fun of it? I guess every movie that Simpsons, Family Guy, Robot Chicken, etc, ever spoofed (Star Wars, Back to the Future, Goodfellas, and many more) are all sucky films since they were so easy to spoof.
I don't get why there is a complaint about The Simpson's doing a comedic spoof of the Departed? Isn't that what all spoofs do, strip a story down to its most basic elements and make fun of it? I guess every movie that Simpsons, Family Guy, Robot Chicken, etc, ever spoofed (Star Wars, Back to the Future, Goodfellas, and many more) are all sucky films since they were so easy to spoof.
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10:36PM on 03/17/2011

Worst "Unpopular" So Far

I lived in Seoul when the first "Infernal Affairs" came around. I saw it in theaters (w/ subtitles) and loved it. I own the not quite as good but still solid sequels, and a trailer reel for the oringinal. It's a great and effective action thriller. That does not however, immediately make "The Departed" a bad film, something the writer, Felix Vasquez Jr., fails to comprehend.

"The Deaprted", for all it's faults, takes things in a very, very different direction then the original, and the fact
I lived in Seoul when the first "Infernal Affairs" came around. I saw it in theaters (w/ subtitles) and loved it. I own the not quite as good but still solid sequels, and a trailer reel for the oringinal. It's a great and effective action thriller. That does not however, immediately make "The Departed" a bad film, something the writer, Felix Vasquez Jr., fails to comprehend.

"The Deaprted", for all it's faults, takes things in a very, very different direction then the original, and the fact that he can't accept it and just suck the original's cock is sad beyond all beleif. Just because you happen to like the original better, beleive it to handle the themes in a better fashion, does not make "The Departed" bad, it makes you a sad fanboy.

Every movie must be judged by it's own merits, not the merits of wherever it came from. As such, the writer does do a disservice to anyone that actually has issuses with the movie (myself included, although I do own it, as it's a mostly good film) by simply stating the original "is soo much, way better, look at me guys! I'm hip,I know about this film "The Departed" is based on! Cool right?" (paraphrasing) No, it's not cool, and stating you prefer one or the other is totally OK, but comparing remakes to one another is a foolhardy endeavor, as it does both films a disservice, as all films are their own beast, remakes or not.
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9:41PM on 03/17/2011
JoBlo is of course my favorite movie website, but "Unpopular Opinion" is BY FAR the worst feature on this site. I understand that people have differing opinions on movies, but why are we writing articles knocking down great films? That doesn't make any fucking sense. I've seen both Infernal Affairs and The Departed, and just because they are different films in some aspects does NOT mean The Departed is a "dumbed down version". I fucking hate when someone has to insult one movie just to prop up
JoBlo is of course my favorite movie website, but "Unpopular Opinion" is BY FAR the worst feature on this site. I understand that people have differing opinions on movies, but why are we writing articles knocking down great films? That doesn't make any fucking sense. I've seen both Infernal Affairs and The Departed, and just because they are different films in some aspects does NOT mean The Departed is a "dumbed down version". I fucking hate when someone has to insult one movie just to prop up another. Why can't they both be great movies? Oh yeah they are. Which makes this stupid article even more pointless. I get it. You liked Infernal Affairs more. If anything, that makes you the LEAST qualified person to write an unbiased article about why The Departed isn't a 'masterpiece'.

This is the definition of "shock journalism", which I'm obviously using very loosely, because using the word journalism when describing an article like this being way too polite. I don't mean to be rude, but every single GREAT film in the world can be attacked on some level if the person writing wants to nitpick, which is all this article did. Great film, deserving Best Picture winner, terrible article.
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9:35AM on 03/18/2011
It's called difference of opinion. If we all thought alike and liked the same movies this would be a boring world. I hated Social Network and have gotten a lot of flack over it but, that's my opinion as everyone else has theirs. I respect those opinions but will not change my own because it doesn't agree with everyone else. I don't always agree with this column but champion it's right and need to exist. Variety is the spice of life not conformity.
It's called difference of opinion. If we all thought alike and liked the same movies this would be a boring world. I hated Social Network and have gotten a lot of flack over it but, that's my opinion as everyone else has theirs. I respect those opinions but will not change my own because it doesn't agree with everyone else. I don't always agree with this column but champion it's right and need to exist. Variety is the spice of life not conformity.
1:37PM on 03/18/2011
Yea izzy... you're basically saying these articles suck because you don't agree with the opinions in them, rather lame of you if you ask me.
Yea izzy... you're basically saying these articles suck because you don't agree with the opinions in them, rather lame of you if you ask me.
8:17PM on 03/18/2011
Actually that's not what I'm saying at all. I've agreed with several of these columns in the past, and then just like now, I don't see the point in it.

In this particular case, yes I disagree and think The Departed is a great film, worthy of all it's praise. But of course I understand that not everyone is going to share this same viewpoint. While I think the premise of having one guy who hates a great film write about it is rather lame in itself, it's really more the reasons that are always
Actually that's not what I'm saying at all. I've agreed with several of these columns in the past, and then just like now, I don't see the point in it.

In this particular case, yes I disagree and think The Departed is a great film, worthy of all it's praise. But of course I understand that not everyone is going to share this same viewpoint. While I think the premise of having one guy who hates a great film write about it is rather lame in itself, it's really more the reasons that are always given. It's just stupid to read sentences like (paraphrasing here) 'with the ending of The Departed, Scorsese is playing the American audience for saps'. No he's not. It's a great film, and most people absolutely love the ending. Including me. But I guess that makes us all saps because Felix Vasquez Jr. says so.
8:14PM on 03/17/2011
I have never read an "Unpopular Opinion" article i liked. Not because i always disagree with the authors point of view because sometimes i do agree with it. It just seems like a place for people to rant about films when your in the minority and that makes you feel somewhat more intellectual and superior to the people who liked it. Also this came out 5 years ago. Why the hell are you writing an article on The Departed now? Yea that's right it came out in 2006 not 2008. C'mon man
I have never read an "Unpopular Opinion" article i liked. Not because i always disagree with the authors point of view because sometimes i do agree with it. It just seems like a place for people to rant about films when your in the minority and that makes you feel somewhat more intellectual and superior to the people who liked it. Also this came out 5 years ago. Why the hell are you writing an article on The Departed now? Yea that's right it came out in 2006 not 2008. C'mon man
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8:21PM on 03/17/2011
Okay, so the article is null and void because of a two year difference. Gotcha.
Okay, so the article is null and void because of a two year difference. Gotcha.
2:54AM on 03/18/2011
haha, i never said anything about the article being void. And the fact that your resulting to sarcasm and picking out only one point in my post isn't helping your position at all.
haha, i never said anything about the article being void. And the fact that your resulting to sarcasm and picking out only one point in my post isn't helping your position at all.
1:41PM on 03/18/2011
And so a positive opinion/review on a movie would just be a place for that person to rant about how great it was?

C'mon man, the exact same things you've stated can be applied to a person with an opposite opinion on the film.

And to boot you even have to scrounge up something extra and complain about the release date of the movie? Who cares if it didn't come out two days ago? That is most definitely not what it's about. In fact it's almost better that it's a movie that the majority of
And so a positive opinion/review on a movie would just be a place for that person to rant about how great it was?

C'mon man, the exact same things you've stated can be applied to a person with an opposite opinion on the film.

And to boot you even have to scrounge up something extra and complain about the release date of the movie? Who cares if it didn't come out two days ago? That is most definitely not what it's about. In fact it's almost better that it's a movie that the majority of people have actually had a chance to see, thus creating a larger basis for conversation. If you do a UNpopular Opinion for a movie that came out two days ago you'll probably get five responses, three of them being "Yeah I want to see this movie"
11:54PM on 03/19/2011
First off, a review of a movie shouldn't be too opinion based, this is all opinion based. Second this is a movie fan website, i'd say 95% of the people on here had seen The Departed within a year of it coming out. Also, how many articles on here are people just ranting about movies they like, this is a movie news site, it provides information pertaining to upcoming movies and such, most every article on here has some pertinent information in it except this one. If I want opinions I'll go to
First off, a review of a movie shouldn't be too opinion based, this is all opinion based. Second this is a movie fan website, i'd say 95% of the people on here had seen The Departed within a year of it coming out. Also, how many articles on here are people just ranting about movies they like, this is a movie news site, it provides information pertaining to upcoming movies and such, most every article on here has some pertinent information in it except this one. If I want opinions I'll go to IMDB, but i want news, so i come here.
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8:06PM on 03/17/2011

Also...

Lack of range =/= playing oneself
Lack of range =/= playing oneself
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8:03PM on 03/17/2011

Infernal Affairs

made me laugh. Especially when Leung's contact dies and it goes into a really romantic montage.

Infernal Affairs wasn't subtle either.

I fully expect thumbs down votes on my comment. Don't disappoint!
made me laugh. Especially when Leung's contact dies and it goes into a really romantic montage.

Infernal Affairs wasn't subtle either.

I fully expect thumbs down votes on my comment. Don't disappoint!
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7:54PM on 03/17/2011

Everybody is missing an obvious point

Look at the other nominees for best picture that year: Little Miss Sunshine, Babel, the Queen, and Letters from Iwo Jima. IMO, The Departed was a better movie than all of those (with the exception of maybe Letters), and I can't really think of any other movies that deserved the award more that year. Just because it was a remake doesn't mean its not good. Sure, it may not Scorsese's best or as good as the original, but unless you can give me a more deserving best picture winner for that year
Look at the other nominees for best picture that year: Little Miss Sunshine, Babel, the Queen, and Letters from Iwo Jima. IMO, The Departed was a better movie than all of those (with the exception of maybe Letters), and I can't really think of any other movies that deserved the award more that year. Just because it was a remake doesn't mean its not good. Sure, it may not Scorsese's best or as good as the original, but unless you can give me a more deserving best picture winner for that year your point is invalid.
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8:02PM on 03/17/2011
So because by default it was the best picture of the best pictures (still debatable as Little Miss Sunshine did more for me than The Departed emotionally), it's automatically a masterpiece, even though you admit it's not Scorsese's best? Please clear that logic up for me.
So because by default it was the best picture of the best pictures (still debatable as Little Miss Sunshine did more for me than The Departed emotionally), it's automatically a masterpiece, even though you admit it's not Scorsese's best? Please clear that logic up for me.
8:05PM on 03/17/2011
Did anomaly7 say masterpiece?
Did anomaly7 say masterpiece?
8:08PM on 03/17/2011
He didn't not say masterpiece. He said it was the best which I disagree on. The question remains.
He didn't not say masterpiece. He said it was the best which I disagree on. The question remains.
8:10PM on 03/17/2011
Your out in left field Terminal, he was simply saying it deserved best picture... that is all.
Your out in left field Terminal, he was simply saying it deserved best picture... that is all.
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7:34PM on 03/17/2011

Agreed

I was so pissed when this won best picture. It bothers me when an already great movie is remade and nominated for any award. It's an insult to the original and the creators of the original, as if stating our American version is better. Blah
I was so pissed when this won best picture. It bothers me when an already great movie is remade and nominated for any award. It's an insult to the original and the creators of the original, as if stating our American version is better. Blah
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7:16PM on 03/17/2011
*FART*
Don't you know any Shakespeare?
*FART*
Don't you know any Shakespeare?
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4:50PM on 03/17/2011
Excellent article!
Excellent article!
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7:36PM on 03/17/2011
Thanks!
Thanks!
4:43PM on 03/17/2011

ridiculous

sometimes i feel like you do these just for the sake of an article and not at all because you have an actual opinion.
pointing out flaws in the departed is like telling hot ass bitches that the freckle on the back of their neck makes them look ugly
sometimes i feel like you do these just for the sake of an article and not at all because you have an actual opinion.
pointing out flaws in the departed is like telling hot ass bitches that the freckle on the back of their neck makes them look ugly
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5:26PM on 03/17/2011
Or like telling the mediocre chick every guy is lusting after "Listen, you're not all that." Hence the point of my article.
Or like telling the mediocre chick every guy is lusting after "Listen, you're not all that." Hence the point of my article.
5:55PM on 03/17/2011
I agree with the article. I didn't like this at all. The original is far superior.
I agree with the article. I didn't like this at all. The original is far superior.
7:24PM on 03/17/2011
Well, we know who the author is now.
Well, we know who the author is now.
7:35PM on 03/17/2011
The rat symbolizes obviousness!
The rat symbolizes obviousness!
12:40AM on 03/18/2011
theres more flaws in your argument than there is in 5 year old's tweet
theres more flaws in your argument than there is in 5 year old's tweet
4:35PM on 03/17/2011

Seems like the popular opinion to me...

And yet, Sfpsycho415 and cuttro13 makes great points. All this article does is make me want to see Infernal Affairs. And anybody who watches enough films can find holes in a movie. Jeez!
Let's face it: the Oscar went to MS because he should've won it years ago, but that doesn't mean that The Departed is a bad movie. I still find it infinitely entertaining. It helped to solidify the fact that Leo DeCaprio is a good actor (I've hated pretty much everything he's done for years, then started
And yet, Sfpsycho415 and cuttro13 makes great points. All this article does is make me want to see Infernal Affairs. And anybody who watches enough films can find holes in a movie. Jeez!
Let's face it: the Oscar went to MS because he should've won it years ago, but that doesn't mean that The Departed is a bad movie. I still find it infinitely entertaining. It helped to solidify the fact that Leo DeCaprio is a good actor (I've hated pretty much everything he's done for years, then started seeing his talent in The Beach, Gangs of New York, Aviator, etc.) and this movie made me grit my teeth and admit it.
It takes a great actor to hold a movie together, and since Scorsese focuses on the criminal side and not the police side as much, the movie holds its own. Look at the part that everyone seems to bash: Mark Walhburg and Matt Damon, AKA the police side. It's intentionally weak because there's so much focus on the criminal aspect.
Also, on the cell phone aspect, let's face it: that makes the movie much more simple, which is better for the masses.
Let's not forget the showcase of the film: the soundtrack and score. If there's one thing that Scorsese does best, it's getting the mood music right. I am a Mexican-American, but I felt like an Irish gangster listening to it. Hell, the Italian gangsters in The Sopranos loved the hell out of the soundtrack.
I was involved in the characters' lives, I wanted to see Vera Farmiga and Leo hook up (which almost never happens to me watching a movie), and although Anthony Anderson was criminally underused (he's good on Law and Order), the parts he was in were good and worth noting.
As for Jack, you can't complain when that's what got Jack famous in the first place. I did however enjoy the fact that he had a legitimate reason for being so manic-he was unbelievably high on drugs. Why not have him act completely ridiculous? DeNiro would've been too fake and Pacino would've been too loud and obnoxious. Jack was an obvious choice.
Frankly, I'm not trying to sway your feelings on the film. That's just not going to happen. You're going to hate it as much as I love it, end of story. But, I want to bring to light the parts of the movie that were well done. Sure, the accents are the most glaringly bad part (some came and went, others were believable enough) but other than that I never saw a problem with the movie because I was so intensely drawn into it.
The reason The Departed works is the same reason Goodfellas works. We want to be along for the ride when a gangster goes apeshit and beats someone down. We want to see the bullets fly when someone's being accused of being a rat. We want to see Nicholson snort cocaine off of a hooker and hang out in a porno theater. It's a fun movie to watch. By over analyzing it, and poking fun at the rat at the end, you miss why you saw the movie in the first place: Scorsese makes a damn good gangster flick, and that's what it is. That's all it is, but that's not necessarily a problem. I don't go into watching it for The Godfather. I go into it wanting nothing and enjoying every well-placed song and F-bomb in it. If that's not enough for you, screw it. You don't have to watch it.
However, if you agreed to everything the article said and STILL have the Blu-Ray or Deluxe Edition of The Departed, send it my way. I'd be honored to have it in my collection.
Two more things: Damn, Terminal 83, you always gotta hate. Why you such a hater? Now that my ebonics are out of the way, just because a cartoon makes fun of a movie doesn't damage the quality of the movie itself. Take for instance Citizen Kane. It's a fantastic movie, but a good chunk of Simpsons episodes have made fun of it. So have Family Guy and Robot Chicken. So Ralph gets the symbolism in "The Departed." He's not that retarded! Dumb ass!
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4:41PM on 03/17/2011
The Simpsons lampooned Citizen Kane. And Robot Chicken lampoons. There's a difference between lampooning and making fun of. But you have a point, my inclusion of the Simpsons was merely to imply that the scene with the rat was so clunky an out of its prime TV show could spoof it with ease and point out its absurdity.
The Simpsons lampooned Citizen Kane. And Robot Chicken lampoons. There's a difference between lampooning and making fun of. But you have a point, my inclusion of the Simpsons was merely to imply that the scene with the rat was so clunky an out of its prime TV show could spoof it with ease and point out its absurdity.
4:47PM on 03/17/2011
lampooning and making fun of are the same thing. you gave no example smartass. i danotehwolf. you just like to hate and troll
lampooning and making fun of are the same thing. you gave no example smartass. i danotehwolf. you just like to hate and troll
4:26PM on 03/17/2011
I agree that Scorsese got the Oscar to make up for the snubs from Goodfellas, easily the greatest crime picture of all time.

But I think The Departed is a great film, and I HAVE seen Infernal Affairs, which is also great. I can't say which one is better. IA was leaner with better pacing and the suspense was heightened. The ending was also shocking, since I saw it before Departed. However, it was a grim movie all the way through, if I remember corretly. The Departed was more sprawling and
I agree that Scorsese got the Oscar to make up for the snubs from Goodfellas, easily the greatest crime picture of all time.

But I think The Departed is a great film, and I HAVE seen Infernal Affairs, which is also great. I can't say which one is better. IA was leaner with better pacing and the suspense was heightened. The ending was also shocking, since I saw it before Departed. However, it was a grim movie all the way through, if I remember corretly. The Departed was more sprawling and epic, with great performances and scenes that vary in tone, breaking the film up and making it more digestable. I like movies that skillfully put you through all the emotions. The ending felt a little tacked on though.

I'm Kent Brockman and this has been My two cents.
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4:22PM on 03/17/2011

This article is NOT written by Mike Sampson

it is written by this guy...

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just in case you didn't know. Just trying to get credit where it is deserved, as a few people have thought Sampson had written this.
it is written by this guy...

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just in case you didn't know. Just trying to get credit where it is deserved, as a few people have thought Sampson had written this.
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4:28PM on 03/17/2011
Interesting. So Joblo is now into stealing articles now? You should let the original writer know what is going on.
Interesting. So Joblo is now into stealing articles now? You should let the original writer know what is going on.
4:35PM on 03/17/2011
No Joblo.com credited me, he just put it under the image header. Easy as pie.
No Joblo.com credited me, he just put it under the image header. Easy as pie.
4:40PM on 03/17/2011
I was wondering where Terminal 83 was. He usually has something snarky to say on stuff like this. Nice to know it was him writing it all along.
I was wondering where Terminal 83 was. He usually has something snarky to say on stuff like this. Nice to know it was him writing it all along.
4:57PM on 03/17/2011
@Ghostvirus

no no no, the way these things work (the UNpopular Opinion articles) is any JoBlo member or reader can send their thoughts on a certain movie that people don't agree with, and if the heads at JoBlo find the write up interesting enough they'll approve it and post it, crediting the reader/member.

This HAS been done, it's obviously a bit confusing as Mike Sampson is credited with the article as a whole at the very top and Terminal is credited underneath. It'd be a bit more clear if
@Ghostvirus

no no no, the way these things work (the UNpopular Opinion articles) is any JoBlo member or reader can send their thoughts on a certain movie that people don't agree with, and if the heads at JoBlo find the write up interesting enough they'll approve it and post it, crediting the reader/member.

This HAS been done, it's obviously a bit confusing as Mike Sampson is credited with the article as a whole at the very top and Terminal is credited underneath. It'd be a bit more clear if they put 'Posted by: Mike Sampson, Written by: Terminal/real name'
4:20PM on 03/17/2011

Agreed!

You forgot to mention just how godamm clean the movie was. I felt like I could eat off of the street. No style at all.

Other than that spot on Mr. Sampson. Glad I am not the only one that felt this way.
You forgot to mention just how godamm clean the movie was. I felt like I could eat off of the street. No style at all.

Other than that spot on Mr. Sampson. Glad I am not the only one that felt this way.
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4:19PM on 03/17/2011

Disagree

I loved The Departed, even moreso than the original(s). However I do find it quite lame that every 'I agree' comment gets 5,000 minuses/thumbs down. Sheesh, come on people.
I loved The Departed, even moreso than the original(s). However I do find it quite lame that every 'I agree' comment gets 5,000 minuses/thumbs down. Sheesh, come on people.
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4:11PM on 03/17/2011

Agreed!

You forgot to mention just how godamm clean the movie was. I felt like I could eat off of the street. No style at all.

Other than that spot on Mr. Sampson. Glad I am not the only one that felt this way.
You forgot to mention just how godamm clean the movie was. I felt like I could eat off of the street. No style at all.

Other than that spot on Mr. Sampson. Glad I am not the only one that felt this way.
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4:20PM on 03/17/2011
The article (nor are any of the UNpopular Opinion articles) is NOT WRITTEN BY Mike Sampson, the actual author of the article is Felix Vasquez Jr. who I'm pretty sure is also on MFC here...

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The article (nor are any of the UNpopular Opinion articles) is NOT WRITTEN BY Mike Sampson, the actual author of the article is Felix Vasquez Jr. who I'm pretty sure is also on MFC here...

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3:27PM on 03/17/2011
I understand that the point of this article is to be contrarian, but this was less an opinion on how you didn't like The Departed and more a soap box diatribe on how you loved the original. Comparing a remake to an original is almost ALWAYS a waste. Great, you saw the original. And great, you are bringing attention to it. But if you are going to list reasons that a good movie was bad, try coming up with reasons other than "the other one was better". I thought the acting was good, the directing
I understand that the point of this article is to be contrarian, but this was less an opinion on how you didn't like The Departed and more a soap box diatribe on how you loved the original. Comparing a remake to an original is almost ALWAYS a waste. Great, you saw the original. And great, you are bringing attention to it. But if you are going to list reasons that a good movie was bad, try coming up with reasons other than "the other one was better". I thought the acting was good, the directing was great as always, and out actually had me respecting Leo for the first time since Gilbert Grape. And comparing Jack in this to the Jack he played in The Shining was just flat out retarded
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3:21PM on 03/17/2011
I understand that the point of this article is to be contrarian, but this was less an opinion on how you didn't like The Departed and more a soap box diatribe on how you loved the original. Comparing a remake to an original is almost ALWAYS a waste. Great, you saw the original. And great, you are bringing attention to it. But if you are going to list reasons that a good movie was bad, try coming up with reasons other than "the other one was better". I thought the acting was good, the directing
I understand that the point of this article is to be contrarian, but this was less an opinion on how you didn't like The Departed and more a soap box diatribe on how you loved the original. Comparing a remake to an original is almost ALWAYS a waste. Great, you saw the original. And great, you are bringing attention to it. But if you are going to list reasons that a good movie was bad, try coming up with reasons other than "the other one was better". I thought the acting was good, the directing was great as always, and out actually had me respecting Leo for the first time since Gilbert Grape. And comparing Jack in this to the Jack he played in The Shining was just flat out retarded
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4:19PM on 03/17/2011
Comparing the original to the remake is almost always a guarantee as well and it was used as a template thus juxtaposed to explore how the remake watered down the original's content, so I felt my formula was apt.
Comparing the original to the remake is almost always a guarantee as well and it was used as a template thus juxtaposed to explore how the remake watered down the original's content, so I felt my formula was apt.
9:45PM on 03/17/2011
I see where you are coming from, but the problem remains. You aren't judging the film solely on its merits. You are comparing it with its source material. It's is comparable to someone seeing a movie after reading the book. The satisfaction is almost NEVER the same. So I understand your opinion, but I disagree. I think The Departed stands tall. Not only as a remake, but as a film in and of itself. Maybe that makes me the minority on this board, or in the majority (considering the film's
I see where you are coming from, but the problem remains. You aren't judging the film solely on its merits. You are comparing it with its source material. It's is comparable to someone seeing a movie after reading the book. The satisfaction is almost NEVER the same. So I understand your opinion, but I disagree. I think The Departed stands tall. Not only as a remake, but as a film in and of itself. Maybe that makes me the minority on this board, or in the majority (considering the film's success). Regardless, I cant nitpick a few details when the overall product is a film that contains great acting and directing.
3:02PM on 03/17/2011

I agreeeeee

Although I can't entirely say that i remember the Departed, but what i can say is that i remember not enjoying it. I also think it speaks volumes that i chose to forget this movie.

Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Casino --- ALL MUCH better. I feel that the Academy just gave him an Oscar cause it was LONG overdue.
Although I can't entirely say that i remember the Departed, but what i can say is that i remember not enjoying it. I also think it speaks volumes that i chose to forget this movie.

Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Casino --- ALL MUCH better. I feel that the Academy just gave him an Oscar cause it was LONG overdue.
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2:22PM on 03/17/2011

Thank you Mike Sampson

While I enjoyed a lot about The Departed, I felt the ending did a bit of a disservice.

Andy Lau had a great symbolic redemption in the original movie. While essentially the same happened for Damon, he was portrayed more as self-serving, so people still think the bad guy got away. Maybe that's Scorsese being unsentimental.

And while Vera Farmiga was a much stronger female character than the psychiatrist and the wife in the original, the romance triangle seemed a bit of a
While I enjoyed a lot about The Departed, I felt the ending did a bit of a disservice.

Andy Lau had a great symbolic redemption in the original movie. While essentially the same happened for Damon, he was portrayed more as self-serving, so people still think the bad guy got away. Maybe that's Scorsese being unsentimental.

And while Vera Farmiga was a much stronger female character than the psychiatrist and the wife in the original, the romance triangle seemed a bit of a stretch.

Scorsese hasn't ever been a strong storyteller. His movies are more character-driven. So in that way, the film lacked a certain tightness to the plot.

Also, while the Hong Kong movie was what I consider a police procedural, I'd categorize The Departed as more of a crime movie, because the focus is much less on the police side. And there are times, too, when I forget Matt Damon is in the thing, because Scorsese insists on focusing on Billy's plight, leaving an imbalance that reinforces those final scenes as being pure good guy/bad guy stuff.
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2:02PM on 03/17/2011

THANK You!!

FINALLY, someone says it! The Departed is a half-assed crime "thriller" at BEST and one of Scorsese's absolute worst right up there with Bringing Out The Dead. Everyone with the exception of Ray Winstone and Martin Sheen phoned every minute of this in on a prepaid cell phone from Chile. Nicholson sleepwalked through his scenes only stopping by the prop table to grab a rubber hand to crazy it up. And while Infernal Affairs was by no means a masterpiece at least it had something new to bring to
FINALLY, someone says it! The Departed is a half-assed crime "thriller" at BEST and one of Scorsese's absolute worst right up there with Bringing Out The Dead. Everyone with the exception of Ray Winstone and Martin Sheen phoned every minute of this in on a prepaid cell phone from Chile. Nicholson sleepwalked through his scenes only stopping by the prop table to grab a rubber hand to crazy it up. And while Infernal Affairs was by no means a masterpiece at least it had something new to bring to the table whereas everyone in The Departed seems to be stealing even from themselves.

And while I will never defend the actions of the Academy, I'm pretty sure they gave him this one for all the others he should have won.

Not to compare apples to oranges too much but The Town BLOWS the Departed away and had all the atmosphere and tension it totally lacked. And while Scorsese has been improving much lately this remains a big ol' shit stain on his career. BOOOOOOO Departed!
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1:57PM on 03/17/2011
Wow for once someone actually recognizes INFERNAL AFFAIRS. I have been telling people left and right about how The Departed was just a remake of Japanese movie Infernal Affairs, they than look at me with complete disgust. It's great how you compared the two.
Wow for once someone actually recognizes INFERNAL AFFAIRS. I have been telling people left and right about how The Departed was just a remake of Japanese movie Infernal Affairs, they than look at me with complete disgust. It's great how you compared the two.
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2:43PM on 03/17/2011
You should tell 'em it's a Hong Kong movie.
You should tell 'em it's a Hong Kong movie.
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1:42PM on 03/17/2011
I haven't seen Infernal Affairs (I really want to now), but I never went nuts for The Departed in the first place. Decent crime/thriller, but that's about it.

The movie has weird hole in logic that ruins it for me. When Billy is eavesdropping on Colin and Costello in the porno theater he hears Costello call Colin by his name.

So why didn't Billy call or text his supervisors: "You got anyone working there called Colin?" That's it, that all he had to do and he'd catch him. Instead the movie
I haven't seen Infernal Affairs (I really want to now), but I never went nuts for The Departed in the first place. Decent crime/thriller, but that's about it.

The movie has weird hole in logic that ruins it for me. When Billy is eavesdropping on Colin and Costello in the porno theater he hears Costello call Colin by his name.

So why didn't Billy call or text his supervisors: "You got anyone working there called Colin?" That's it, that all he had to do and he'd catch him. Instead the movie waits for Billy's tape to make it to his superiors (or whoever) later on in the flick. WTF?
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1:33PM on 03/17/2011

2008?

I haven't seen Infernal Affairs. I've heard it's excellent, and I don't care much for remakes; however, this film is a good film. If it's not on par with the original, so be it, but by itself, it's well-made and consistently intriguing. It's not Scorsese's best, but it's far from his worse. Should he have won the Oscar? Yes, the direction is excellent, but he should have won before for Taxi Driver or Raging Bull. Does this make it seem like they just handed him the award because they felt
I haven't seen Infernal Affairs. I've heard it's excellent, and I don't care much for remakes; however, this film is a good film. If it's not on par with the original, so be it, but by itself, it's well-made and consistently intriguing. It's not Scorsese's best, but it's far from his worse. Should he have won the Oscar? Yes, the direction is excellent, but he should have won before for Taxi Driver or Raging Bull. Does this make it seem like they just handed him the award because they felt like he eventually deserved one? Perhaps, but Hitchcock never won an award, so snubbing the greats doesn't seem out of the question.

On a side note, if you're going to bash a film, you might as well get the correct date. Unless you live in some country that didn't get the Departed for two years.
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4:20PM on 03/17/2011
LOL! I know right? I agree with what was said. But damm. Waaay off on the date there buddy. But then again I stopped taking this sight seriously years ago.
LOL! I know right? I agree with what was said. But damm. Waaay off on the date there buddy. But then again I stopped taking this sight seriously years ago.
1:10PM on 03/17/2011
I don't think there'd be as much agreement on this article if you wrote this when the movie originally came out and was hyped beyond belief. This was a great article. I hate this movie and thought it was basically a dumb B grade crime thriller just with a Hollywood budget. I haven't seen the original so I can't say if that one was any better but from your comments, it sounds like the subject matter was handled with a lot more skill and intelligence. As for a movie being easily torn apart by
I don't think there'd be as much agreement on this article if you wrote this when the movie originally came out and was hyped beyond belief. This was a great article. I hate this movie and thought it was basically a dumb B grade crime thriller just with a Hollywood budget. I haven't seen the original so I can't say if that one was any better but from your comments, it sounds like the subject matter was handled with a lot more skill and intelligence. As for a movie being easily torn apart by a cartoon, Inception was another one. So, in terms of your comments on Simpsons and Departed, Inception must be a shitty movie too if it was so easily pointed out as being stupid. Which I agree with, because I hated Inception. The Social Network is another overrated movie and I think if years from now, there's an article like this about it, the hype will have completely warn off by then and people will start to recognize it as a bad movie. However, some people, like myself, already do now.
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12:50PM on 03/17/2011
I love how people giving the thumbs down votes here have never seen "Infernal Affairs", yet seem to supposedly 'know' that it's inferior to Scorsese's hack job. I like Scorsese, but there are occasions that he makes weak movies. "Bringing Out The Dead", "Shutter Island", and "The Departed" being at the top of the list of examples.
I love how people giving the thumbs down votes here have never seen "Infernal Affairs", yet seem to supposedly 'know' that it's inferior to Scorsese's hack job. I like Scorsese, but there are occasions that he makes weak movies. "Bringing Out The Dead", "Shutter Island", and "The Departed" being at the top of the list of examples.
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12:44PM on 03/17/2011
Like I said below I think The departed is a VERY good movie, but it truly represents Scorsese's kiss from Hollywood who snubbed him too many times. I mean people love the guy. But the departed, as good as it is, it isn't even close to being Scorsese's best work. Perhaps because it was a remake, I don't know. Raging Bull and Goodfellas are his best films. But I'll tell ya, I enjoyed Gangs of New York more than the Departed and I'm FROM Boston. But 'nuff about that. The acting in this
Like I said below I think The departed is a VERY good movie, but it truly represents Scorsese's kiss from Hollywood who snubbed him too many times. I mean people love the guy. But the departed, as good as it is, it isn't even close to being Scorsese's best work. Perhaps because it was a remake, I don't know. Raging Bull and Goodfellas are his best films. But I'll tell ya, I enjoyed Gangs of New York more than the Departed and I'm FROM Boston. But 'nuff about that. The acting in this movie was superb, especially LeoNardo DiCaprio. It is very difficult to get the Boston accent if you're not from the area. I mean look at Martin Sheen, he sounds like friggin Ted Kennedy. Leo did a great job with it. Damon was great, Wahlberg was great. Winstone was unbelievable. And Jack, well Jack is Jack.
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12:38PM on 03/17/2011
I haven't seen it yet. I wanted to wait until everything died down for it.

Just want to say that I was looking forward to this column, until I started reading it. PLEASE re-read things before posting. There are so many run on sentences that are so overly written, that the thought behind them is lost. This comes off as more of a stream of thought than a coherent article.

OK, bring on the thumbs down.
I haven't seen it yet. I wanted to wait until everything died down for it.

Just want to say that I was looking forward to this column, until I started reading it. PLEASE re-read things before posting. There are so many run on sentences that are so overly written, that the thought behind them is lost. This comes off as more of a stream of thought than a coherent article.

OK, bring on the thumbs down.
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12:37PM on 03/17/2011
So your main complaint is that it isn't as good as the original? You must be disappointed often. Im sorry, I can believe some of your complaints, but the directing and acting is very worthy.
So your main complaint is that it isn't as good as the original? You must be disappointed often. Im sorry, I can believe some of your complaints, but the directing and acting is very worthy.
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12:04PM on 03/17/2011

Hype Goes Away

Like many other supposedly beloved high-concept crowd pleasers that took over pop culture for a year, such as both Christopher Nolan Batman films, this, the King's Speech, Crash, etc. after the hype dies down and the film is no longer off the tree fresh, the flaws become glaringly apparent and the magic is gone. The Departed has really clumsy pacing, questionable editing, hamfisted performances and looks more ridiculous as time goes on. I almost regret loving this film 5 years ago.
Like many other supposedly beloved high-concept crowd pleasers that took over pop culture for a year, such as both Christopher Nolan Batman films, this, the King's Speech, Crash, etc. after the hype dies down and the film is no longer off the tree fresh, the flaws become glaringly apparent and the magic is gone. The Departed has really clumsy pacing, questionable editing, hamfisted performances and looks more ridiculous as time goes on. I almost regret loving this film 5 years ago.
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12:03PM on 03/17/2011
The worst was when the guy fell off the roof right in front of DiCaprio. I couldn't believe the shittiness of the effects and editing there.
The worst was when the guy fell off the roof right in front of DiCaprio. I couldn't believe the shittiness of the effects and editing there.
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11:40AM on 03/17/2011
Mark Wallberg playing Mark Wallberg, hilarious. I don't think he knows how to play anyone else.

Yep, it was a snorefest, it was a chore to sit through.

Subtlety was not it's strong suit and it's what made the original so brilliant. Considering Us audiences have very little patience for layered characterizations and elegant pacing, you get vapid cliches and archetypes ( Wallberg specializes in both ) for the remake to make the story easily digestible.

i have no inherent bias towards
Mark Wallberg playing Mark Wallberg, hilarious. I don't think he knows how to play anyone else.

Yep, it was a snorefest, it was a chore to sit through.

Subtlety was not it's strong suit and it's what made the original so brilliant. Considering Us audiences have very little patience for layered characterizations and elegant pacing, you get vapid cliches and archetypes ( Wallberg specializes in both ) for the remake to make the story easily digestible.

i have no inherent bias towards remakes, some have eclipse or at least paid effective homage, expanded on the themes in the ones they are inspired by, but Departed so wildly diverged from it's source material, the end product can't even be considered a shell of it's predecessor ( that would be a compliment )

It's a shame MS won his elusive BP for this middling, navel gazing, star crossed effort , he and we deserved better.

Yet another in a long list of forgettable best picture winners. Yeah, i can still feel the groundswell from the excitement towards Hurt Locker, wait, what's Hurt Locker ?
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11:34AM on 03/17/2011

Yeesh

Not sure Scorcese should be "for the masses." He received his Best Director Oscar on the basis of his career, in spite of "The Departed", not because of. Take a look at who presented him the statue, good friends: Speilberg, Coppola, and Lucas. They welcomed him to the club - which he was going to get in - even if he didn't make a half-decent film diluted from an original thought and spiced up with enough 4-letter words to make a Harvey Keitel blush. In a career that includes Raging Bull,
Not sure Scorcese should be "for the masses." He received his Best Director Oscar on the basis of his career, in spite of "The Departed", not because of. Take a look at who presented him the statue, good friends: Speilberg, Coppola, and Lucas. They welcomed him to the club - which he was going to get in - even if he didn't make a half-decent film diluted from an original thought and spiced up with enough 4-letter words to make a Harvey Keitel blush. In a career that includes Raging Bull, Casino, and Goodfellas, it's laughable that he finally one an Oscar for "The Departed" from the same academy that only gave Hitchcock a lifetime achievement award because they forgot about him when he was making some of Hollywood's best thrillers.
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11:16AM on 03/17/2011

Thank you Thank you

I can't stand the overrated praise this movie receives! Its like a waste of everyones time to invest you into all these characters and then kill them all at the end because you don't know how to end the movie. Hated it and I'm glad to see fellow haters. And great point about Nicholson just being Nicholson once again.
I can't stand the overrated praise this movie receives! Its like a waste of everyones time to invest you into all these characters and then kill them all at the end because you don't know how to end the movie. Hated it and I'm glad to see fellow haters. And great point about Nicholson just being Nicholson once again.
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11:05AM on 03/17/2011
I am in agreement with this article.
I am in agreement with this article.
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10:44AM on 03/17/2011

I completely agree

The Departed is a film that has been universal praised yet pales in comparison to the superior original Infernal Affairs. I've always felt that it is one of Scorsese's weakest efforts and to this day I can't understand why it is held in such high regard. Scorsese took a complex and taught thriller and watered it down into a deliberate, character-driven melodrama. After the "rat" scene I recall leaning over to my girlfriend and whispering you have to be kidding me, right?

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The Departed is a film that has been universal praised yet pales in comparison to the superior original Infernal Affairs. I've always felt that it is one of Scorsese's weakest efforts and to this day I can't understand why it is held in such high regard. Scorsese took a complex and taught thriller and watered it down into a deliberate, character-driven melodrama. After the "rat" scene I recall leaning over to my girlfriend and whispering you have to be kidding me, right?

I grew up with Mark and the Wahlberg being Wahlberg comment is dead on (except he is channeling one of his older brothers).
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10:21AM on 03/17/2011
The Departed is a far superior film to Infernal Affairs. Better direction, better acting, better story, better performances, better set pieces and more action-packed.
The Departed is a far superior film to Infernal Affairs. Better direction, better acting, better story, better performances, better set pieces and more action-packed.
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2:04PM on 03/17/2011
The Departed $90million production budget - Infernal Affairs $5 million production budget.
Big Difference. Better Story? - it was exactly the same! Better performances - Yes, I can agree with you here. Better set pieces - Easy for you to say, you are probably from America and not Japan. More action packed - Infernal Affairs was more about the corruption unfolding rather than the american over dramatic not needed action scenes.
The Departed $90million production budget - Infernal Affairs $5 million production budget.
Big Difference. Better Story? - it was exactly the same! Better performances - Yes, I can agree with you here. Better set pieces - Easy for you to say, you are probably from America and not Japan. More action packed - Infernal Affairs was more about the corruption unfolding rather than the american over dramatic not needed action scenes.
10:21AM on 03/17/2011

Summary of This Article

"The Remake is okay, but the original is waayyyyy better. You've probably never heard of it."
"The Remake is okay, but the original is waayyyyy better. You've probably never heard of it."
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2:58PM on 03/17/2011
hahahah that was fucking hilarious.
hahahah that was fucking hilarious.
4:27PM on 03/17/2011
That's actually a good one! But very true since most people never knew Scorsese's film was a remake anyway. Go see the original, I guarantee you'll see my point.
That's actually a good one! But very true since most people never knew Scorsese's film was a remake anyway. Go see the original, I guarantee you'll see my point.
10:21AM on 03/17/2011

Thank You!

Finally! Someone else recognizes this flick for the paper tiger it is. A pale imitation of a great Hong Kong crime flick. A weak remake from Scorsese. Scorsese has made some great movies but not everything he does is gold (Bringing Out The Dead anyone?).
Finally! Someone else recognizes this flick for the paper tiger it is. A pale imitation of a great Hong Kong crime flick. A weak remake from Scorsese. Scorsese has made some great movies but not everything he does is gold (Bringing Out The Dead anyone?).
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10:07AM on 03/17/2011
The Departed is a great movie and one of the best to come out in a long time. It's one of Scorsese's best films and the cast was electrifying in how good they all were, especially Wahlberg (maybe his best performance along with The Fighter).

It's just one of those movies that you can watch over and over and not get tired of and can watch at anytime.

Great movie, in no way overrated.
The Departed is a great movie and one of the best to come out in a long time. It's one of Scorsese's best films and the cast was electrifying in how good they all were, especially Wahlberg (maybe his best performance along with The Fighter).

It's just one of those movies that you can watch over and over and not get tired of and can watch at anytime.

Great movie, in no way overrated.
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10:23AM on 03/17/2011
I respect your opinion but this is a weak remake of a great Hong Kong flick. Very overrated and a far cry from Scorsese's best work!
I respect your opinion but this is a weak remake of a great Hong Kong flick. Very overrated and a far cry from Scorsese's best work!
11:07AM on 03/17/2011
maybe one of scorcese's best on a top ten list. but def not in his top 5.
maybe one of scorcese's best on a top ten list. but def not in his top 5.
10:07AM on 03/17/2011

Feh

I watched The Departed and thought it was a good movie. Was Internal Affairs better? You seem to think so. But that doesn't make The Departed a bad movie. You could say that about any Hollywood remake: they remake movies that are good, not because the original was bad and they want to try again. So the remake always has to live up to the original. That doesn't automatically mean the remake is necessarily a bad movie.
I watched The Departed and thought it was a good movie. Was Internal Affairs better? You seem to think so. But that doesn't make The Departed a bad movie. You could say that about any Hollywood remake: they remake movies that are good, not because the original was bad and they want to try again. So the remake always has to live up to the original. That doesn't automatically mean the remake is necessarily a bad movie.
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10:02AM on 03/17/2011
I am a huge Scorsese fan, and I had waited a long time to see the departed, because I didn't want to see it at the height of the hype. I thought it was good, but I do not think it lived up to all the hype. I was rooting for Scorsese to finally win an Oscar (like many others) and I was pleased he won. But overall the film is not his best film. I still love the movie, but it may be a little over-rated, Goodfellas and Raging Bull were better films. Casino and Gangs Of New York were great
I am a huge Scorsese fan, and I had waited a long time to see the departed, because I didn't want to see it at the height of the hype. I thought it was good, but I do not think it lived up to all the hype. I was rooting for Scorsese to finally win an Oscar (like many others) and I was pleased he won. But overall the film is not his best film. I still love the movie, but it may be a little over-rated, Goodfellas and Raging Bull were better films. Casino and Gangs Of New York were great films.
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10:01AM on 03/17/2011
I only agree with you on Jack Nicholson point. The only thing that annoyed me was Jack Nicholson just playing as "Jack Nicholson". For me, I think it was "About Schmidt" that Nicholson last played an actual character with heart and soul. Lots of his role as of late just made him to play himself. If Jack Nicholson played the crime boss as he did in "A Few Good Men", his role would be awesome. Other than that, The Departed is the only good remake to come out of Hollywood.
I only agree with you on Jack Nicholson point. The only thing that annoyed me was Jack Nicholson just playing as "Jack Nicholson". For me, I think it was "About Schmidt" that Nicholson last played an actual character with heart and soul. Lots of his role as of late just made him to play himself. If Jack Nicholson played the crime boss as he did in "A Few Good Men", his role would be awesome. Other than that, The Departed is the only good remake to come out of Hollywood.
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9:46AM on 03/17/2011
Eh, some weak examples aside, you're mostly right. I still love The Depahted, and think it's a more fun accessory piece to Infernal Affairs.
Eh, some weak examples aside, you're mostly right. I still love The Depahted, and think it's a more fun accessory piece to Infernal Affairs.
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9:26AM on 03/17/2011
I actually love The Departed and yet I can't argue with a single point you've made here. I haven't seen Infernal Affairs so I can't comment on that. I'm now going to have to revist Departed to see if I still enjoy it as much. My buddy hates the movie although he prefers Boondock Saints which makes his opinion void. ;)
I actually love The Departed and yet I can't argue with a single point you've made here. I haven't seen Infernal Affairs so I can't comment on that. I'm now going to have to revist Departed to see if I still enjoy it as much. My buddy hates the movie although he prefers Boondock Saints which makes his opinion void. ;)
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