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Van Damme explains why Stallone hung up on him over The Expendables

01.15.2010

With nearly every ancient action star under the sun making their way into Stallone’s EXPENDABLES, one notable name missing was Jean-Claude Van Damme. And also Chuck Norris, but whatever, that meme died a while ago.

But as it turns out, Van Damme was initially approached by Stallone for a part in the film, a role which Van Damme turned down because Stallone didn’t have any sort of character built for him other than “guy who fights like boom boom boom” which wasn’t quite good enough for JCVD star who has been doing more grown-up work these days.

Watch Van Damme relay the exchange below with his best Stallone impression, and because it’s rather hard to hear, the important parts have been translated underneath the video.

[...] To be in the movie, and after JCVD and EAGLE PATH and it was between that, he said: "I want you to be in THE EXPENDABLES" and I said: "Whats my character?" And he go: "You know JC, you gonna make lots of money, doesnt matter, you gonna make money. And we go: BOOM, BOOM, BOOM." [...] Yeah, I understand, but I would like to know what am I doing?" [...] "Well you know, you gonna talk with Jet Li and you gonna have a fight." And I say: "Keep It." And he thinks I am a kid. He go: "You know, you win the fight, then I am coming in and Boom, Boom, Boom." And I said: "What do you mean? BOOM, BOOM, BOOM? Whats my story?" [...] "Who gives a fuck, you gonna make money." And I said: "SLY I cannot work this way." And then he hang up on me. Then I call him back like an idiot, an idiot [...] He go: "Ey, this is very insulting, and you insulting me, you." [...] I said: "SLY, when I saw ROCKY I put the bun on my head and I run like I think I was Rocky." That was my end story with THE EXPENDABLES. [...] But Stallone is a very very smart man, he's got a big heart, truly. And he's a brilliant writer and a brilliant director! That's why I asking all those questions about characters [...]

Thanks to ever-watchful reader Fat-Womanizer for the tip.

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Extra Tidbit: I say good for him, though it would have been cool to see him in there.
Source: JoBlo

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7:30PM on 01/15/2010

rubbish

i like van damme but seems bullshit.....

problem is like many, van damme has a large fanbase of morons who instead of helping him simply steer him in the wrong direction.

Heck, I even heard his son is meant to be an amazing actor.....I mean come on....
i like van damme but seems bullshit.....

problem is like many, van damme has a large fanbase of morons who instead of helping him simply steer him in the wrong direction.

Heck, I even heard his son is meant to be an amazing actor.....I mean come on....
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7:08PM on 01/15/2010

Alright...

First off I really hope Van Damme goes through with his "kick boxing" fight and gets his head beat in. Since when does Van Damme have standards? What was his "motivation/back story" for standing there in a black unitard in "Breakin'". What was his complex back story in "Black Scorpian or No Retreat No Surender? The fucker wasn't complaining when about back story when he was with Golan and Glubus making shit that production wise was one step above porno. "You have fight with Jet Li" was really
First off I really hope Van Damme goes through with his "kick boxing" fight and gets his head beat in. Since when does Van Damme have standards? What was his "motivation/back story" for standing there in a black unitard in "Breakin'". What was his complex back story in "Black Scorpian or No Retreat No Surender? The fucker wasn't complaining when about back story when he was with Golan and Glubus making shit that production wise was one step above porno. "You have fight with Jet Li" was really all he needed...

I have no problem with him turning it down...

Just don't start trying to act like you have depth or something just cuz one person wrote a movie for you that made you look good...
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12:52AM on 01/16/2010
Exactly, but the whole thing is, Dolph Lundgren is playing the role that was originally offered to Van Damme, and it isn't that huge of a role. It's not some profound, philosophically based character or something; it's a small villainous role, which is important to the story, but it's not like he's playing Hamlet here, and again although I wasn't present when they conversed on the phone, I personally don't believe Sly would suddenly lose his vast vocabulary and communication skills and resort
Exactly, but the whole thing is, Dolph Lundgren is playing the role that was originally offered to Van Damme, and it isn't that huge of a role. It's not some profound, philosophically based character or something; it's a small villainous role, which is important to the story, but it's not like he's playing Hamlet here, and again although I wasn't present when they conversed on the phone, I personally don't believe Sly would suddenly lose his vast vocabulary and communication skills and resort to grunting and repeating "you'll get a lot of money" over and over again. That's just not him.
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6:41PM on 01/15/2010

I can understand...

... your point that you dont believe that since JCVD, his standards are so high that he would not consider something only based on depth of character and higher standards (Universal Soldier, case in point) --HOWEVER, I think that what he was trying to get across is that Stallone didnt provide ANY character AT ALL... no explanation AT ALL as to just WHAT or WHO he would be playing... like his character would run in the credits as "GUY FIGHTING IN ALLEY 3" or something-- at least if he said
... your point that you dont believe that since JCVD, his standards are so high that he would not consider something only based on depth of character and higher standards (Universal Soldier, case in point) --HOWEVER, I think that what he was trying to get across is that Stallone didnt provide ANY character AT ALL... no explanation AT ALL as to just WHAT or WHO he would be playing... like his character would run in the credits as "GUY FIGHTING IN ALLEY 3" or something-- at least if he said SOMETHING or even told him his characters NAME or implied that a scene had actually been worked out and WRITTEN on paper, then he would have had SOMETHING to work off of... Im sure he would have easily been convinced to join in the movie if he was made to understand at least a minimal amount of information about what his part would be-- it doesn't help that he doesnt take to English as fluently as most people, and you would have to be an EXPERT in English to understand most of what Stallone tried to get out of his mouth to begin with. Hey, SLY-- next time you want to explain something thats meant to convince somebody of what you're really trying to say and English is their second language, try getting somebody else to make the phone call for you, k? Maybe even somebody who speaks in their fluent language, for added benefit. Its a shame that JCVD would be left out of a movie thats meant to collect all you guys on one project (action heroes from MY era) and now you're missing one... just gonna make the audience feel like theres a piece missing-- its too bad, cause from what I can tell on THIS end of things (being a movie GOER, not a movie MAKER) --the two of you are cool guys and this would have been very cool work out.
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4:11PM on 01/15/2010

Ok

I really enjoy JVDs recent success as an "actor", but it wouldnt hurt his carerr to do a little Boom, Boom, Boom and get out of his "Im serious now, watch me weep"-mode. Hell, even between kicking ass in US3 he looked like hes going to cry every minute. Damn, there were times when an action hero killed 100 guys, made love to a hot girl, smoked a cigar and talked trash at the same time. :-)
I really enjoy JVDs recent success as an "actor", but it wouldnt hurt his carerr to do a little Boom, Boom, Boom and get out of his "Im serious now, watch me weep"-mode. Hell, even between kicking ass in US3 he looked like hes going to cry every minute. Damn, there were times when an action hero killed 100 guys, made love to a hot girl, smoked a cigar and talked trash at the same time. :-)
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4:06PM on 01/15/2010

Looking forward to

JCVD in any Shakespearean production within the next decade. Even if Stallone WAS trying to just convince him with money, who cares? Captain Guile is pretty much bottom of the barrel career-wise at this point.

And for those saying "this movie lacks plot" let me be the first to say: Obviously. Jam-pack that many badass action dudes in a single movie and they're all going to have about eighteen lines if they ever want to get to any fighting. I will be happy with a decent, even if predictable,
JCVD in any Shakespearean production within the next decade. Even if Stallone WAS trying to just convince him with money, who cares? Captain Guile is pretty much bottom of the barrel career-wise at this point.

And for those saying "this movie lacks plot" let me be the first to say: Obviously. Jam-pack that many badass action dudes in a single movie and they're all going to have about eighteen lines if they ever want to get to any fighting. I will be happy with a decent, even if predictable, plot as long as it's entertaining.

Besides... if I'm going to pay money to see these guys together on screen, they better blow things up so high up they'll come crashing back down at the end of the movie as I'm finishing up my beers. The point is I would much rather get tired of explosions and fists flying than waste good time on 'stellar' plot dialogues that turns the movie more into a "I Remember Cecil" (Family Guy) style movie.

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3:43PM on 01/15/2010
BOOM BOOM BOOM
BOOM BOOM BOOM
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3:26PM on 01/15/2010
I don't believe it happened this way. JCVD will do Universal Soldier: Regeneration, but he'll pass on the networking possibilities The Expendables would offer him? Stupid.
I don't believe it happened this way. JCVD will do Universal Soldier: Regeneration, but he'll pass on the networking possibilities The Expendables would offer him? Stupid.
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2:56PM on 01/15/2010
So let me get this straight. Van Damme chooses his roles based on the depth and complexity of his characters? Right.
So let me get this straight. Van Damme chooses his roles based on the depth and complexity of his characters? Right.
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2:45PM on 01/15/2010
i think Stallone was trying to do the guy a favor and the guy was a jerk about it.
i think Stallone was trying to do the guy a favor and the guy was a jerk about it.
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2:40PM on 01/15/2010
Stallone sounds like a bit of a dick... but who knows if it's true.
Stallone sounds like a bit of a dick... but who knows if it's true.
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2:04PM on 01/15/2010

boom boom

Boom boom boom! Sounds like a porno. Didn't sly do a skin flick earlier in his career? No matter, I am still down to watch the Expendables!! As for JCVD, I would actually like to see him dance on another "Breakin'" sequel!!
Boom boom boom! Sounds like a porno. Didn't sly do a skin flick earlier in his career? No matter, I am still down to watch the Expendables!! As for JCVD, I would actually like to see him dance on another "Breakin'" sequel!!
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2:01PM on 01/15/2010
Van Damme is an annoying Douchebag!
Van Damme is an annoying Douchebag!
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1:53PM on 01/15/2010

@Hunglowman

Wow. You made a lot of friends with your comment ;o)
But I have to say that I was really dissapointed with the first teaser trailer even though I like most of the actors involved. A lot of movies have proven that too much starpower can ruin any flick...Still hope stallone proves me wrong. And by the way I could imagine him say things like that. But still I don't get why Vandamne is so interested in the character. Look at his last 10 straight to DVD Bullshit movies (except JCVD). He didn't
Wow. You made a lot of friends with your comment ;o)
But I have to say that I was really dissapointed with the first teaser trailer even though I like most of the actors involved. A lot of movies have proven that too much starpower can ruin any flick...Still hope stallone proves me wrong. And by the way I could imagine him say things like that. But still I don't get why Vandamne is so interested in the character. Look at his last 10 straight to DVD Bullshit movies (except JCVD). He didn't seem to care to star in this crap so why this reaction? But I guess if he wants to do a movie with a Co-star he wants to play the role himself (see Double impact).
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3:42PM on 01/15/2010
haha. yeah, friends is what I DON'T need. But more importantly, GOOD FIND. True or not it sure was an interesting clip. one truth is certain.. for a guy to make sequels to his 80's flicks (Rocky, Rambo) this is obviously a guy who is about cash. These jerks giving me thumbs down can take that thumb and shove it up their ass.
haha. yeah, friends is what I DON'T need. But more importantly, GOOD FIND. True or not it sure was an interesting clip. one truth is certain.. for a guy to make sequels to his 80's flicks (Rocky, Rambo) this is obviously a guy who is about cash. These jerks giving me thumbs down can take that thumb and shove it up their ass.
4:19PM on 01/15/2010
Yeah, Hunglowman, how dare Stallone for choosing to continue the lives of those characters; especially Rocky. Rocky Balboa is a symbol and his existence is metaphoric. It takes a lot more than one single film to get to know his character and to see what and who he is. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, but making sequels is not always just about money. There is a fine balance of art and commerce, but to say that it was all just about money is completely and utterly ludicrous. If a person
Yeah, Hunglowman, how dare Stallone for choosing to continue the lives of those characters; especially Rocky. Rocky Balboa is a symbol and his existence is metaphoric. It takes a lot more than one single film to get to know his character and to see what and who he is. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, but making sequels is not always just about money. There is a fine balance of art and commerce, but to say that it was all just about money is completely and utterly ludicrous. If a person decides to continue the life of a character he creates, that's his right and it isn't based on money. If that were the case Stallone certainly wouldn't have fought so hard to get Rocky Balboa made.
4:20PM on 01/15/2010
A piece of what I wrote didn't show up for some reason: I wrote" How dare Stallone. He should be punished for choosing to continue the lives of those characters..."
A piece of what I wrote didn't show up for some reason: I wrote" How dare Stallone. He should be punished for choosing to continue the lives of those characters..."
8:35PM on 01/15/2010
Balboa, you are a true fan and i can't hate on you. Me and you have had words before but the truth is i love your convi ction. I am the same way about other things. I am sure you will enjoy this
Balboa, you are a true fan and i can't hate on you. Me and you have had words before but the truth is i love your convi ction. I am the same way about other things. I am sure you will enjoy this
8:39PM on 01/15/2010
at the same time, my man, if you don't like this movie i expect you to come on joblo and come clean! fair?
at the same time, my man, if you don't like this movie i expect you to come on joblo and come clean! fair?
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1:31PM on 01/15/2010
Jean Claude Van Damme is full of shit. I don't believe a word of that. Not even for a minute.
Jean Claude Van Damme is full of shit. I don't believe a word of that. Not even for a minute.
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1:13PM on 01/15/2010
Like Captain Thorpe said, Stallone has already stated what actually went down and frankly I would take his word any day over that of Van Damme's, because Van Damme's account of what was said doesn't even remotely sound like something Sly would say. I have seen hundreds of interviews with him and he is extremely intelligent, articulate, and sophisticated. He's not going to just be like "duhhhhh...uh, you'll get lots of money for it." Anytime Stallone is mentioned in a situation people
Like Captain Thorpe said, Stallone has already stated what actually went down and frankly I would take his word any day over that of Van Damme's, because Van Damme's account of what was said doesn't even remotely sound like something Sly would say. I have seen hundreds of interviews with him and he is extremely intelligent, articulate, and sophisticated. He's not going to just be like "duhhhhh...uh, you'll get lots of money for it." Anytime Stallone is mentioned in a situation people automatically have to take a stab and start running their mouths whenever the truth is the vast majority of people don't know the first thing about him.
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10:14PM on 01/15/2010
this is like the 3rd article you've +20 or over.. we get it dude.. you're doing it to your own comments.
this is like the 3rd article you've +20 or over.. we get it dude.. you're doing it to your own comments.
12:49AM on 01/16/2010
LOL! You got me! That's what I spend my time doing, voting my thumbs up multiple times (like you can actually do that).
LOL! You got me! That's what I spend my time doing, voting my thumbs up multiple times (like you can actually do that).
12:36PM on 01/15/2010
give me a thumbs down if you are dumb enough to be pimped by a movie with a script no effort or intelligence was put into.
give me a thumbs down if you are dumb enough to be pimped by a movie with a script no effort or intelligence was put into.
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12:08PM on 01/15/2010
There's so much he said, she said goin on these days. I've just started ignoring it.
There's so much he said, she said goin on these days. I've just started ignoring it.
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11:48AM on 01/15/2010

Stallone...

...has already responed to this by saying "Van Damme may mean a great deal to some of you, but what hes
putting forth is not truthful." Which is interesting, because I totally bought what Van Damme is saying in this vid.
...has already responed to this by saying "Van Damme may mean a great deal to some of you, but what hes
putting forth is not truthful." Which is interesting, because I totally bought what Van Damme is saying in this vid.
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