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Warner Bros. needs to see how Man of Steel performs before taking a risk with Justice League

Jan. 28, 2013by: Niki Stephens

In a rather lengthy article on Jeff Robinov keeping on as president while Kevin Tsujihara steps up as CEO and the upcoming slate at Warner Brothers, there's mention that the success of MAN OF STEEL will influence another project-- JUSTICE LEAGUE.

Here's what was said:

"Further out, the studio's planning a "Justice League" tentpole -- encompassing DC Comics mainstays Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash and the Green Lantern -- on the order of Marvel's "The Avengers." Will Beall is scripting but no director has been attached yet. Stakes are high for "Man of Steel." Other than Nolan's Batpics, Warners has not been able to effectively exploit the DC library. Its 2011 "Green Lantern" underperformed, and a "Justice League" film wouldn't likely be in theaters before 2015, as Warner's top brass has indicated that they are awaiting the results of "Man of Steel," which opens June 14, before moving further ahead."

I don't blame them for waiting on MAN OF STEEL to get a verdict on JUSTICE LEAGUE. But what makes JUSTICE LEAGUE so different from THE AVENGERS? To start, THE AVENGERS had a steady set of actors sticking with their respective characters. The only character to change actors semi-often was the Hulk. There's also no director for JUSTICE LEAGUE. If they were to net someone that people could get behind, that might be helpful. Also, Beall is the current script writer. GANGSTER SQUAD didn't seem to "wow" anyone. Is this the person to write such a big project? There may also be the argument that THE AVENGERS on-screen are a little more buyable than JUSTICE LEAGUE.

What do other possible issues do you think keep the JUSTICE LEAGUE on a back burner?

Source: Variety

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1:37PM on 01/29/2013

Well...

...I still think they need to try and get Bale to play Bruce Wayne again if they want Batman in the Justice League to work. Just my opinion.
...I still think they need to try and get Bale to play Bruce Wayne again if they want Batman in the Justice League to work. Just my opinion.
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11:50AM on 01/29/2013

hmmm

So I take it the JL movie is going along the "realism" line that the Man of steel trailer is trying to portray. I wish them luck with whatever they are trying to do.
So I take it the JL movie is going along the "realism" line that the Man of steel trailer is trying to portray. I wish them luck with whatever they are trying to do.
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8:44AM on 01/29/2013

DC,

go ahead and hire me as you're strategist. This really isn't that hard, yet you are making it out to look impossible bringing multi-billion franchises to a format which will do nothing but shower you with money. You know whats in, you know what people want and what people would love to see. Is every Superman movie ever made going to have Zod as a villain? You did good by Batman, really good. Man of Steel will be a success. Don't worry.
go ahead and hire me as you're strategist. This really isn't that hard, yet you are making it out to look impossible bringing multi-billion franchises to a format which will do nothing but shower you with money. You know whats in, you know what people want and what people would love to see. Is every Superman movie ever made going to have Zod as a villain? You did good by Batman, really good. Man of Steel will be a success. Don't worry.
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8:40AM on 01/29/2013

I just don't like DC's strategy at all

I don't know if it's just because Marvel did such an amazing job building up the The Avengers, but that is such a good way to go about it. I'm a little pissed DC isn't doing the same. Each character should have their own stand alone movie, then lead up to the big finale Justice League. It's really already half done too! Batman-done. Superman-done. Green Lantern-done. All they need is a Flash & Wonder Woman movie. Hell, they would only have to make one of them and make JL the intro to the
I don't know if it's just because Marvel did such an amazing job building up the The Avengers, but that is such a good way to go about it. I'm a little pissed DC isn't doing the same. Each character should have their own stand alone movie, then lead up to the big finale Justice League. It's really already half done too! Batman-done. Superman-done. Green Lantern-done. All they need is a Flash & Wonder Woman movie. Hell, they would only have to make one of them and make JL the intro to the other. That's what, maybe a five year commitment for to films? That's nothing. They could even shoot the two at once. Especially with Darkseid supposed to be the villain, you can't mess him up. He is super badass and really would be the pinnacle villain to any superhero, let alone 5 of them.
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8:08AM on 01/29/2013
They have the means to pool ideas from a bunch of resources - the writers and artists at DC and the teams who've worked on DC's animated movies. Find a director who really gives a shit about the characters and doesn't just want the gig as a career boost or ego trip. If Man Of Steel tanks, and hopefully it won't, learn from those mistakes. Justice League is a pretty different proposition to a standalone Supes movie - they need more confidence in their properties - treat them with respect and the
They have the means to pool ideas from a bunch of resources - the writers and artists at DC and the teams who've worked on DC's animated movies. Find a director who really gives a shit about the characters and doesn't just want the gig as a career boost or ego trip. If Man Of Steel tanks, and hopefully it won't, learn from those mistakes. Justice League is a pretty different proposition to a standalone Supes movie - they need more confidence in their properties - treat them with respect and the film will kick ass. Get it right and The Avengers won't seem like such a big deal.
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4:26AM on 01/29/2013
I understand the need to show caution...but at the same time...it just looks like they're making this all up on the spot...with no long term plan in place. I've always been a Marvel fan so perhaps I'm biased here...but I love me some Superman and Batman...and through DCs brilliant animated efforts...I'm more than up for seeing DC characters side by side in live action format...but WB need to pull their finger out and show some kind of direction. I've liked the whole continuing/on going thing
I understand the need to show caution...but at the same time...it just looks like they're making this all up on the spot...with no long term plan in place. I've always been a Marvel fan so perhaps I'm biased here...but I love me some Superman and Batman...and through DCs brilliant animated efforts...I'm more than up for seeing DC characters side by side in live action format...but WB need to pull their finger out and show some kind of direction. I've liked the whole continuing/on going thing Marvel have got going with their movies...it's comics in movie format - brilliant! At the same time, I'll admit that none of the movies have knocked me out of the park (they've been enjoyable - loving The Incredible Hullk the most...only coz of repeat viewings...which is why I was so gutted over Norton not reprising the role). How f-ing hard is it to do this with DC characters Superman and Batman...at the very least? I knew GL would suck going in to the cinema...yet I took my 8 year old and went...coz I love comic book movies (and now so does he). I'm sure I'm not the only person who did this. Theres already a fan base that will ensure a minimum amount of return on such movies just make them good and youll have more than a justification to make a series of these movies (Ghost Rider and FF4 got two movies for crying out loud!!).

With regard to "if they were to get someone that people could get behind, that might be helpful"...why not get Nolan and the DC animated people together to oversee the whole thing....and more than half the job is done!
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2:12AM on 01/29/2013
Kinda weird how you already announce a JL film yet still need to see how Man of Steel performs. WB was smart with Batman but should have more confidence in MOS, it's the films that follow that should be the real concern. You don't see Marvel having doubts when they are already talking about Phase 3 & if you ask me are miles ahead of the game.
Kinda weird how you already announce a JL film yet still need to see how Man of Steel performs. WB was smart with Batman but should have more confidence in MOS, it's the films that follow that should be the real concern. You don't see Marvel having doubts when they are already talking about Phase 3 & if you ask me are miles ahead of the game.
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3:53AM on 01/29/2013
Marvel has success to back up their confidence in phase 2 and 3. They have a proven track record that cumulated into the hit that was The Avengers. They have a right to be confident. WB only has success with The Dark Knight Trilogy, so they still have to see another DC triumph to be confident in future films.
Marvel has success to back up their confidence in phase 2 and 3. They have a proven track record that cumulated into the hit that was The Avengers. They have a right to be confident. WB only has success with The Dark Knight Trilogy, so they still have to see another DC triumph to be confident in future films.
11:59PM on 01/28/2013
Forget Justice League. Get Batman & Superman together. If that works, it's a good sign that Justice League movie will work.
Forget Justice League. Get Batman & Superman together. If that works, it's a good sign that Justice League movie will work.
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11:05PM on 01/28/2013

They need to get their act together

Wait, they green light 2 Green Lantern movies before the first Green Lantern movie hits, yet they're scared to pull the trigger on The Justice League?
Wait, they green light 2 Green Lantern movies before the first Green Lantern movie hits, yet they're scared to pull the trigger on The Justice League?
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3:50AM on 01/29/2013
Maybe they learned their lesson, since, you know, Green Lantern was a failure and that second movie has been delayed, or have you read about progress on that film?
Maybe they learned their lesson, since, you know, Green Lantern was a failure and that second movie has been delayed, or have you read about progress on that film?
11:58AM on 01/29/2013
Its cuz all their movies aren't as good is why they are scared of "pulling the trigger" on a JL movie. The only good movies by DC (recent) are the Batman movies, and even then the last one was weak. Love the old Superman movies though, miss Christopher Reeves.
Its cuz all their movies aren't as good is why they are scared of "pulling the trigger" on a JL movie. The only good movies by DC (recent) are the Batman movies, and even then the last one was weak. Love the old Superman movies though, miss Christopher Reeves.
10:29PM on 01/28/2013
I'd rather have a Superman trilogy (like the Dark Knight trilogy) than a Justice League lead-in (like Avengers phase one). Maybe that's just me.
I'd rather have a Superman trilogy (like the Dark Knight trilogy) than a Justice League lead-in (like Avengers phase one). Maybe that's just me.
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9:35PM on 01/28/2013
It makes sense. Seriously, if DC can align the stars correctly then there is no reason why this movie can't be just as good, if not better than Avengers.

I do agree with the post below saying that one of the things that could save this film is having Nolan direct and having Bale come back to play Batman again. We'll see how Man of Steel does.
It makes sense. Seriously, if DC can align the stars correctly then there is no reason why this movie can't be just as good, if not better than Avengers.

I do agree with the post below saying that one of the things that could save this film is having Nolan direct and having Bale come back to play Batman again. We'll see how Man of Steel does.
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9:14PM on 01/28/2013

There is only two men that can save this project

Nolan....he has to direct it, and Bale needs to put the cowl back on. That's it! When Batman begins and Superman returns broke news the original idea was for Nolan and Singer to collaborate. Three batman flicks and three superman flicks then one big crossover (remember " I am legend.") I say chuck the JL idea and do the Batman Superman crossover. That's a sure bet.
Nolan....he has to direct it, and Bale needs to put the cowl back on. That's it! When Batman begins and Superman returns broke news the original idea was for Nolan and Singer to collaborate. Three batman flicks and three superman flicks then one big crossover (remember " I am legend.") I say chuck the JL idea and do the Batman Superman crossover. That's a sure bet.
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8:43PM on 01/28/2013

so if JJ Abrams can do star trek and star wars...

let's just have Joss Whedon do Justice League and call it a day.
let's just have Joss Whedon do Justice League and call it a day.
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8:38PM on 01/28/2013
I loved the Justice League animated series but after The Dark Knight trilogy, it's hard to put Batman into a group of real superheroes. Batman was not created to be a 'save the world' type hero, he was meant to be a 'fight the extreme criminals' type.
I loved the Justice League animated series but after The Dark Knight trilogy, it's hard to put Batman into a group of real superheroes. Batman was not created to be a 'save the world' type hero, he was meant to be a 'fight the extreme criminals' type.
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8:47PM on 01/28/2013
Batman's biggest contribution to the Justice League is his brain. He's the world's best detective (something the TDK trilogy didn't really highlight). He falls into "save the world" scenarios by figuring out the missing piece of the puzzle, having the back-up plan, or exploiting the enemy's weakness.
Batman's biggest contribution to the Justice League is his brain. He's the world's best detective (something the TDK trilogy didn't really highlight). He falls into "save the world" scenarios by figuring out the missing piece of the puzzle, having the back-up plan, or exploiting the enemy's weakness.
7:43PM on 01/28/2013

"The only character to change actors semi-often was the Hulk."

Semi-often? Lol. 3 different actors in 3 different movies. What qualify as often?
Semi-often? Lol. 3 different actors in 3 different movies. What qualify as often?
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8:18PM on 01/28/2013
Well technically the first Hulk movie and character wasn't part of the Avengers cinematic universe.
Well technically the first Hulk movie and character wasn't part of the Avengers cinematic universe.
7:40PM on 01/28/2013
They are playing it smart, which is good. Yet I would first make a Wonder Woman and Flash movie first....Why? because you figure with Marvel's Avengers...all the characters had movies that had come out already, so they were def established with the movie audience.
They are playing it smart, which is good. Yet I would first make a Wonder Woman and Flash movie first....Why? because you figure with Marvel's Avengers...all the characters had movies that had come out already, so they were def established with the movie audience.
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7:31PM on 01/28/2013
Having JUSTICE LEAGUE without first rebooting Batman could bite them in the ass.
Having JUSTICE LEAGUE without first rebooting Batman could bite them in the ass.
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7:25PM on 01/28/2013
Glad to hear they're playing it safe and not kinda rushing it. I have no doubts superman will be a success at this point even if its critically panned. The character sells it self. Lets hope they do good with this film and yes JLA is no avengers. DC has always been a bit more pulp/werid and into taking more unusual risks with its characters then marvel (in comics and not film). When your number two you try everything to be number one. Lets hope this film pays its respect to the comic
Glad to hear they're playing it safe and not kinda rushing it. I have no doubts superman will be a success at this point even if its critically panned. The character sells it self. Lets hope they do good with this film and yes JLA is no avengers. DC has always been a bit more pulp/werid and into taking more unusual risks with its characters then marvel (in comics and not film). When your number two you try everything to be number one. Lets hope this film pays its respect to the comic characters and its fans. We all just want to see a good film.
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8:51PM on 01/28/2013
" I have no doubts superman will be a success at this point even if its critically panned" this opinion is purely based on trailers and pics no? i mean, so far this movie looks badass, bu t you never know. before release, i thought superman returns was going to be the shit. then it was just shit.
" I have no doubts superman will be a success at this point even if its critically panned" this opinion is purely based on trailers and pics no? i mean, so far this movie looks badass, bu t you never know. before release, i thought superman returns was going to be the shit. then it was just shit.
10:01PM on 01/28/2013
I wasnt talking about how good the film will be, i was talking about how much money it will make and it will make tons even if the film is shit.
I wasnt talking about how good the film will be, i was talking about how much money it will make and it will make tons even if the film is shit.
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