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Warner Bros wants Joaquin Phoenix for the villain in Batman vs Superman

Dec. 18, 2013by: Alex Maidy

You know how it seemed that all of the BATMAN VS SUPERMAN villain rumors were focused on actors who were already bald like Mark Strong, Bryan Cranston, and Terry O'Quinn? Well, add a new name to the potential Lex Luthor villain casting mix and this guy has a full head of hair. Variety reports that Warner Bros is very interested in getting Joaquin Phoenix on board BATMAN VS SUPERMAN as the villain.

Sources are saying that the unnamed role they want him for is Lex Luthor, but neither the studio nor Phoenix's representation have commented. The source of the news also says this is in the very early stages and may not pan out. But, what it does tell us is that the studio is looking at high caliber talent and not trying to fit the mold of what the comic book character looked like. This is also assuming the role is even Luthor. Nothing official has been released saying that he will be the primary antagonist in BATMAN VS SUPERMAN. Phoenix could be a good fit for any number of bad guys from either superhero.

Phoenix returned after a self-imposed hiatus when he filmed the mockumentary I'M STILL HERE and has appeared in acclaimed performances in Paul Thomas Anderson's THE MASTER and this year's HER from Spike Jonze. He is currently filming Anderson's INHERENT VICE. He has played one of the best villains in recent years as Emperor Commodus in Ridley Scott's GLADIATOR, so I have no doubt he could play an amazing Luthor if this all pans out.

BATMAN VS SUPERMAN stars Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne, Ben Affleck, and Gal Gadot. It hits theaters on July 17, 2015.

Source: Variety

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11:46AM on 12/20/2013

Let's think out of the box.

I'll get thumbs down for this but what if the inclusion of Wonder Woman was because of one of her larger villains? Maybe I'm not up on my DC villain lore but wouldn't all the destruction in Metropolis peak the interest of Ares? I could see Phoenix playing that role which would cause Superman and Batman to look for someone who knows more about the bad guy. To clarify Ares wouldn't be the main villain but A villain and I'm not saying that it is a good idea. I guess I'm just trying to explain why
I'll get thumbs down for this but what if the inclusion of Wonder Woman was because of one of her larger villains? Maybe I'm not up on my DC villain lore but wouldn't all the destruction in Metropolis peak the interest of Ares? I could see Phoenix playing that role which would cause Superman and Batman to look for someone who knows more about the bad guy. To clarify Ares wouldn't be the main villain but A villain and I'm not saying that it is a good idea. I guess I'm just trying to explain why Wonder Woman is in this. I'll leave now.
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12:16PM on 12/19/2013
Im still backing Billy Zane for the role but once I heard Wonder Woman cast, they could cast Danny DeVito for all I care at this point. It shouldve been Batman/Superman, all other heroes wait your damn turn
Im still backing Billy Zane for the role but once I heard Wonder Woman cast, they could cast Danny DeVito for all I care at this point. It shouldve been Batman/Superman, all other heroes wait your damn turn
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10:39AM on 12/19/2013
I like Joaquin Phoenix as an actor. But.... no.

As for the Riddler, if there ever is one, my pick is Andrew Scott (admittedly he would also be a good Scarecrow).
I like Joaquin Phoenix as an actor. But.... no.

As for the Riddler, if there ever is one, my pick is Andrew Scott (admittedly he would also be a good Scarecrow).
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8:48AM on 12/19/2013
Yes, please.
Yes, please.
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3:14AM on 12/19/2013

I am definitely hip to this

IMO Phoenix is the best actor working today (after DDL). The guy is amazing and would make a heck of a threat for Bats and Supes no matter the role.
IMO Phoenix is the best actor working today (after DDL). The guy is amazing and would make a heck of a threat for Bats and Supes no matter the role.
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1:23AM on 12/19/2013
Everyone who is saying he should be The Riddler have it a little backwards in my opinion. I'm sure Phoenix would make a fine Riddler, but Edward Norton has always been my choice for The Riddler.
Everyone who is saying he should be The Riddler have it a little backwards in my opinion. I'm sure Phoenix would make a fine Riddler, but Edward Norton has always been my choice for The Riddler.
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12:47AM on 12/19/2013
Nearly every 'rumor' about this flick has been wrong. We were blindsided by its announcement, gobsmacked by Affleck, and Gal Gadot, while mentioned, was overshadowed by rumors of Jaimie Alexander and Olga Kurylenko.

News of this movie has come via official press release.
Nearly every 'rumor' about this flick has been wrong. We were blindsided by its announcement, gobsmacked by Affleck, and Gal Gadot, while mentioned, was overshadowed by rumors of Jaimie Alexander and Olga Kurylenko.

News of this movie has come via official press release.
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12:25AM on 12/19/2013

He should be the Riddler!

He should be the RIdldler .... I would have said Joker but then it ocurred to me no one has done a Powerful evil Riddler. & STEVE BUSCEMI as JOKER. But this could definitely also work in reverse!
Guy Pierce for Lex Luthor !!!!!!!
He should be the RIdldler .... I would have said Joker but then it ocurred to me no one has done a Powerful evil Riddler. & STEVE BUSCEMI as JOKER. But this could definitely also work in reverse!
Guy Pierce for Lex Luthor !!!!!!!
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11:35PM on 12/18/2013
That's interesting. That's fucking interesting man.
That's interesting. That's fucking interesting man.
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10:27PM on 12/18/2013

Starting a new rumor......

ILdres Elba as Lex Luthor and Phoenix as Otis
ILdres Elba as Lex Luthor and Phoenix as Otis
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10:22PM on 12/18/2013

Fuck the rumors....

Just report the facts
Just report the facts
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10:18PM on 12/18/2013
I think we all should stop bothering with these rumors, cuz every rumor turned out wrong and we were given unexpected people cast in roles for this movie. I am with the rest of you, Im all for Phoenix getting the role as Lex. And yes, I think he can tackle the role as Joker, give us a new version
I think we all should stop bothering with these rumors, cuz every rumor turned out wrong and we were given unexpected people cast in roles for this movie. I am with the rest of you, Im all for Phoenix getting the role as Lex. And yes, I think he can tackle the role as Joker, give us a new version
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10:17PM on 12/18/2013
I think we all should stop bothering with these rumors, cuz every rumor turned out wrong and we were given unexpected people cast in roles for this movie. I am with the rest of you, Im all for Phoenix getting the role as Lex. And yes, I think he can tackle the role as Joker, give us a new version
I think we all should stop bothering with these rumors, cuz every rumor turned out wrong and we were given unexpected people cast in roles for this movie. I am with the rest of you, Im all for Phoenix getting the role as Lex. And yes, I think he can tackle the role as Joker, give us a new version
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9:32PM on 12/18/2013
Back when Dark knight first came out and we were wondering who the villains in the third movie would be, I suggested Phoenix for The Riddler, and I still stand by that idea. If there's one thing I like about this potential series, it's thinking outside the box when casting villains, such as Michael Shannon for Zod.
Back when Dark knight first came out and we were wondering who the villains in the third movie would be, I suggested Phoenix for The Riddler, and I still stand by that idea. If there's one thing I like about this potential series, it's thinking outside the box when casting villains, such as Michael Shannon for Zod.
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9:26PM on 12/18/2013
what AWESOME news! This could be really good. He played a great villain in Gladiator. You know I just had a thought. I wonder if he could have played a good Joker too. Heath Ledger was definitely the right way to go, but if they bring back the demented clown I wonder if he could pull it off.
what AWESOME news! This could be really good. He played a great villain in Gladiator. You know I just had a thought. I wonder if he could have played a good Joker too. Heath Ledger was definitely the right way to go, but if they bring back the demented clown I wonder if he could pull it off.
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9:07PM on 12/18/2013
it could work. he's got those creepy dead eyes that could just add a whole new layer to lex luthor. if that's the role they have in mind for him.
it could work. he's got those creepy dead eyes that could just add a whole new layer to lex luthor. if that's the role they have in mind for him.
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8:47PM on 12/18/2013

IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!!

The fanboys must have made it on to the good list this year!
The fanboys must have made it on to the good list this year!
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8:43PM on 12/18/2013
I love him, but can't see him choosing this role.
I love him, but can't see him choosing this role.
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7:57PM on 12/18/2013

YES

He can play evil soooo well, I do wanna see him bald first but I dont think that'll matter, he will kill it as Lex
He can play evil soooo well, I do wanna see him bald first but I dont think that'll matter, he will kill it as Lex
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7:31PM on 12/18/2013

Yes.

Yes, yes, yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
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7:15PM on 12/18/2013
I doubt he'd agree to it but oh man it would be fantastic if he did. And have him fight the ghost of Jor-El too!
I doubt he'd agree to it but oh man it would be fantastic if he did. And have him fight the ghost of Jor-El too!
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7:58PM on 12/18/2013
Lex usually finds Supermans home, at the very least they could make them come face to face!
Lex usually finds Supermans home, at the very least they could make them come face to face!
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7:04PM on 12/18/2013

YES!

i suggested Phoenix for Luthor back when the Mark Strong rumor first surfaced!
i suggested Phoenix for Luthor back when the Mark Strong rumor first surfaced!
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6:24PM on 12/18/2013

Don't do that to me!

That gets my hopes up, because that casting choice would be awesome and epic. Just as every casting choice in this genre should be. Jaime Alexander should have been Wonder Woman. That would have been a great casting choice. Instead it's Gal Gadot which is just meh. I have a feeling whoever gets cast as Lex, which is an epic and iconic character will just be some flavor of the month actor who will not add anything special to the character.
Best Lex Luthors on screen...1. Gene Hackman 2.
That gets my hopes up, because that casting choice would be awesome and epic. Just as every casting choice in this genre should be. Jaime Alexander should have been Wonder Woman. That would have been a great casting choice. Instead it's Gal Gadot which is just meh. I have a feeling whoever gets cast as Lex, which is an epic and iconic character will just be some flavor of the month actor who will not add anything special to the character.
Best Lex Luthors on screen...1. Gene Hackman 2. Cartoon Lex Luthor 3. Gene Hackman. (Spacey doesn't make my list)
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8:01PM on 12/18/2013
michael rosenbaum was much better than any of them, and he got to play the best Lex, billionaire who pulls the strings, I know a lot of people didn't like Smallville, but Lex was by far the best part of that show
michael rosenbaum was much better than any of them, and he got to play the best Lex, billionaire who pulls the strings, I know a lot of people didn't like Smallville, but Lex was by far the best part of that show
8:40PM on 12/18/2013
Michael Rosenbaum was great but over the years on that show, he had better material to work with than any other Lex. Kevin Spacey played Lex very cheesily but if you watch House of Cards you'll see that he has a lot of range and could play it differently.
Michael Rosenbaum was great but over the years on that show, he had better material to work with than any other Lex. Kevin Spacey played Lex very cheesily but if you watch House of Cards you'll see that he has a lot of range and could play it differently.
10:32PM on 12/18/2013
Very true, Spacey probably could have done it a lot better if the movie were better, cuz your right Rosenbaum had much better material, but he played the better version of Lex, we didn't get to see the billionare Lex in any movie so far, glad hes coming in this new universe tho
Very true, Spacey probably could have done it a lot better if the movie were better, cuz your right Rosenbaum had much better material, but he played the better version of Lex, we didn't get to see the billionare Lex in any movie so far, glad hes coming in this new universe tho
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6:23PM on 12/18/2013
Out of all the rumors that have come out about this movie, this one is by far my favorite.
Out of all the rumors that have come out about this movie, this one is by far my favorite.
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6:19PM on 12/18/2013
This would be phenomenal casting. He would make an awesome villian, either for Batman or Superman. I'm sure he would make for an excellent Luthor, but I think he would make for a better Joker. He definitely has that dark side to him that would bring much depth to Joker and be convincingly while doing so.
This would be phenomenal casting. He would make an awesome villian, either for Batman or Superman. I'm sure he would make for an excellent Luthor, but I think he would make for a better Joker. He definitely has that dark side to him that would bring much depth to Joker and be convincingly while doing so.
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6:18PM on 12/18/2013
He's probably the best choice for just about any DC villain. Just think about it, he would be awesome as - Joker, Riddler,Brainiac, Lex, even Bizarro! But I doubt he would do this, seems to mainstream for him.
He's probably the best choice for just about any DC villain. Just think about it, he would be awesome as - Joker, Riddler,Brainiac, Lex, even Bizarro! But I doubt he would do this, seems to mainstream for him.
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6:03PM on 12/18/2013
Make him the Joker and then let Joker pit Bats against Supes...all part of a sick joke and to prove a point to Bats..maybe to make him finally kill somebody in the resulting fight...
..anyways Phoenix would be awesome, but I see him more of a Batman villain rather than Superman's.
Make him the Joker and then let Joker pit Bats against Supes...all part of a sick joke and to prove a point to Bats..maybe to make him finally kill somebody in the resulting fight...
..anyways Phoenix would be awesome, but I see him more of a Batman villain rather than Superman's.
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5:52PM on 12/18/2013
You may not believe me, but I have been banging on about Joaquin for Luther for a long time, he would have the right intensity and smarts for the role and he is one of the finest actors of his generation, please God make this happen.
You may not believe me, but I have been banging on about Joaquin for Luther for a long time, he would have the right intensity and smarts for the role and he is one of the finest actors of his generation, please God make this happen.
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5:25PM on 12/18/2013
Brilliant choice.
Brilliant choice.
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5:19PM on 12/18/2013
OMG this would be amazing. I don't even care which villain - this guy is peaking in his career right now...I can only imagine what he would bring to a super villain!
OMG this would be amazing. I don't even care which villain - this guy is peaking in his career right now...I can only imagine what he would bring to a super villain!
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5:16PM on 12/18/2013

Brainiac? Riddler?

I'm sure he'd be a fantastic villain either way, but I'm more entertained by the fact that the picture you've used looks like it would be Phoenix's actual reaction to the headline he's reading.
I'm sure he'd be a fantastic villain either way, but I'm more entertained by the fact that the picture you've used looks like it would be Phoenix's actual reaction to the headline he's reading.
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5:11PM on 12/18/2013
Ya good luck with that WB....
Ya good luck with that WB....
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5:01PM on 12/18/2013

I doubt they're eyeing him for Lex

Lex will require a multi-picture deal (something I don't see Phoenix being interested in), but I could easily see him being another villain like Metallo or Brainiac.
Lex will require a multi-picture deal (something I don't see Phoenix being interested in), but I could easily see him being another villain like Metallo or Brainiac.
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4:50PM on 12/18/2013
Definitely an interesting choice, he plays a good villain in Gladiator. Hopefully this plans out.
Definitely an interesting choice, he plays a good villain in Gladiator. Hopefully this plans out.
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4:42PM on 12/18/2013
He would be a fantastic Joker.
He would be a fantastic Joker.
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4:27PM on 12/18/2013

Metallo

Doubt it, but it would be interesting.
Doubt it, but it would be interesting.
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4:22PM on 12/18/2013
But he's not bald? Just kidding he's actually a very interesting choice
But he's not bald? Just kidding he's actually a very interesting choice
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4:18PM on 12/18/2013

I wish

Best thing i heard about this movie so far...
Best thing i heard about this movie so far...
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4:18PM on 12/18/2013

Found an image

What do you all think?

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What do you all think?

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9:31PM on 12/18/2013
great link
great link
4:12PM on 12/18/2013
Brilliant idea.
Brilliant idea.
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4:09PM on 12/18/2013

Screw Lex!!!!

He would be sick as the JOKER!!!!!!
He would be sick as the JOKER!!!!!!
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9:29PM on 12/18/2013
that's funny I just wrote that same thing before I read what you wrote. I wonder if he could indeed pull it off.
that's funny I just wrote that same thing before I read what you wrote. I wonder if he could indeed pull it off.
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