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01.03.2012

UPDATE - New York Times entertainment writer Dave Itzkoff just tweeted that WB says there is "no truth" to the word below that the TDKR prologue audio has been tweaked. Chris Nolan defies your silly lack of hearing!

So I think we can all agree that Bane was unintelligible in the DARK KNIGHT RISES prologue. Chris Nolan remained steadfast that he wouldn't change Bane's voice, Warner Bros. has addressed the issue and that may mean changes for the final film.

Warner Bros. and IMAX sent a new audio mix to theater owners over the past weekend that reportedly reduces the ambient noise during Bane's scenes making his dialogue more easily understood.

Collider got a copy of the IMAX letter, which reads as follows: Dear IMAX Projectionist, Please see enclosed a new DTAC soundtrack for your Dark Knight Prologue married to Mission Impossible 4 presentation.

I haven't spoken to anyone who has heard the new mix but Collider's source says that the audio is at least 50% more clear. I guess that's good? I mean now I can understand at least 50% of his words, which is a step up from nothing. It also allows Nolan to maintain some kind of creative integrity after his early claims that it's not absolutely necessary to understand everything Bane is saying.

Did anyone see MI4 this weekend and catch the new prologue? How did it sound to you?

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5:34AM on 01/05/2012
I think it's just easier to call people stupid.
I think it's just easier to call people stupid.
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5:27AM on 01/05/2012
I read a comment somewhere where someone actually said it was hard to understand Bane because it sounded like he had his hand covering his face. I nearly fell off of my chair when I read that. And that was in response to the second trailer. As for the prologue, you wouldn't be able to hear Fran Drescher in an open plane cabin let alone Bane.
I read a comment somewhere where someone actually said it was hard to understand Bane because it sounded like he had his hand covering his face. I nearly fell off of my chair when I read that. And that was in response to the second trailer. As for the prologue, you wouldn't be able to hear Fran Drescher in an open plane cabin let alone Bane.
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7:05PM on 01/04/2012
I'm thinking some folks just need to clean the wax out of their ears.
I'm thinking some folks just need to clean the wax out of their ears.
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4:58PM on 01/04/2012
We should all watch a Guy Ritchie movie to prepare ourselves - you know, just in case.
We should all watch a Guy Ritchie movie to prepare ourselves - you know, just in case.
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4:10PM on 01/04/2012

nope

I didnt have any problem understanding Bane either.
I didnt have any problem understanding Bane either.
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12:37PM on 01/04/2012
I understood Bane just fine and thought it was a cool accent.
I understood Bane just fine and thought it was a cool accent.
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7:04AM on 01/04/2012
I had a really hard time understanding the voice too and I was simultaneously tweeting to this issue as I watched the trailer, I was also trying to video pirate it so I could post it online while eating nachos and arguing with the people sitting next to me...I really wish Nolan would take my advice and fix this issue.
Awhile back I recommended fixes and new scenes for Snakes on a Plane prior to release and if those edits had not have been added as I suggested that film would have sucked.
I had a really hard time understanding the voice too and I was simultaneously tweeting to this issue as I watched the trailer, I was also trying to video pirate it so I could post it online while eating nachos and arguing with the people sitting next to me...I really wish Nolan would take my advice and fix this issue.
Awhile back I recommended fixes and new scenes for Snakes on a Plane prior to release and if those edits had not have been added as I suggested that film would have sucked. Hopefully Nolan will realize people that have never seen the complete finished product know better than the filmmakers.

I want my seat on the whiner bandwagon now please.
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6:57AM on 01/04/2012
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oh yeah heres the best bootleg...well only bootleg i could find of the prologue for anyone that cares...i can still make out what bane is saying even in this
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oh yeah heres the best bootleg...well only bootleg i could find of the prologue for anyone that cares...i can still make out what bane is saying even in this
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4:46AM on 01/04/2012
I hope that the voice still sounds as cool as it did before.
I hope that the voice still sounds as cool as it did before.
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3:57AM on 01/04/2012
I foresee the internet having a Bane spoof fieldday, when the movie is released!
I foresee the internet having a Bane spoof fieldday, when the movie is released!
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5:01PM on 01/04/2012
I really hope it gets the same treatment as the "Hitler War Room" scene meme!
I really hope it gets the same treatment as the "Hitler War Room" scene meme!
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3:19AM on 01/04/2012
Yeah, eff you Chris Nolan.
Yeah, eff you Chris Nolan.
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8:51PM on 01/03/2012
understood it just fine...this is gonna gte huge thumbs down obviously but what is it with american audiences not being able to understand even the slightest of changes in accents. whenever i download tv series or documentaries from american sites if someone is british,european or basically any other ethnicity besides american(even texans have this) they are always subtitled...even deaf people talking are hardcoded. is this just ignorance or what?
understood it just fine...this is gonna gte huge thumbs down obviously but what is it with american audiences not being able to understand even the slightest of changes in accents. whenever i download tv series or documentaries from american sites if someone is british,european or basically any other ethnicity besides american(even texans have this) they are always subtitled...even deaf people talking are hardcoded. is this just ignorance or what?
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7:57PM on 01/03/2012

if you heard it just fine:

all that time you would have spent figuring out the dialog, you can use to get over yourself already.
all that time you would have spent figuring out the dialog, you can use to get over yourself already.
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6:26AM on 01/04/2012
good to know the cast of jersey shore know how to create an mfc profile

good to know the cast of jersey shore know how to create an mfc profile

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7:05PM on 01/03/2012
If I didn't know any better, I'd say this is Nolan's way of saying "Here you go f**kers, this is what you get for bitching about Batman's voice! Have Bane!"
If I didn't know any better, I'd say this is Nolan's way of saying "Here you go f**kers, this is what you get for bitching about Batman's voice! Have Bane!"
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6:49PM on 01/03/2012
the type of people that say they understand every word he says, are probably the type of teenage guys that stand outside in the snow, in a t-shirt and shorts, talking to a girl they like.

teen girl: "Um aren't you cold? its, like, snowing and stuff."

teen boy in t-shirt and shorts: "nah, i'm totally comfy. it's really not that cold out."

then when the girl leaves they run inside and hug their mom, shivering uncontrollably.
the type of people that say they understand every word he says, are probably the type of teenage guys that stand outside in the snow, in a t-shirt and shorts, talking to a girl they like.

teen girl: "Um aren't you cold? its, like, snowing and stuff."

teen boy in t-shirt and shorts: "nah, i'm totally comfy. it's really not that cold out."

then when the girl leaves they run inside and hug their mom, shivering uncontrollably.
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7:06PM on 01/03/2012
You must know some pretty weird teenagers.
You must know some pretty weird teenagers.
9:02PM on 01/03/2012
that made no sense & yes i heard the dialogue fine, plain & simple, its not me trying to be cool
that made no sense & yes i heard the dialogue fine, plain & simple, its not me trying to be cool
4:08AM on 01/04/2012
Or they're actually people that understand English when it's spoken. Get the gum out of your ears, actually pay a little attention, and you'll hear everything just fine.
Then you can go back to living in your parent's basement.
Or they're actually people that understand English when it's spoken. Get the gum out of your ears, actually pay a little attention, and you'll hear everything just fine.
Then you can go back to living in your parent's basement.
6:52AM on 01/04/2012
hahahahha@daforce this is the weirdest thing ive ever read
hahahahha@daforce this is the weirdest thing ive ever read
6:34PM on 01/03/2012

Am I part of the 1% ?

Who understood the words in the trailer just fine ?
Who understood the words in the trailer just fine ?
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7:05PM on 01/03/2012
I too understood Bane in the trailer with NO PROBLEMS; I saw the IMAX Prologue on Friday with my brother and we BOTH could not understand but maybe 1 in 5 words Bane said. This is going to be a problem in the movie IF the scene has a lot of Background noise as in the Prologue. I don't want to give any spoilers away, but I didn't think it was as big of an issue to be before I saw the Prologue since I understood the Trailer just fine. Looks like I was wrong and this will affect the viewing
I too understood Bane in the trailer with NO PROBLEMS; I saw the IMAX Prologue on Friday with my brother and we BOTH could not understand but maybe 1 in 5 words Bane said. This is going to be a problem in the movie IF the scene has a lot of Background noise as in the Prologue. I don't want to give any spoilers away, but I didn't think it was as big of an issue to be before I saw the Prologue since I understood the Trailer just fine. Looks like I was wrong and this will affect the viewing experience if not tweaked.
9:03PM on 01/03/2012
lol well played
lol well played
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5:48PM on 01/03/2012
Good news.
Good news.
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4:51PM on 01/03/2012
Well if Nolan doesn't change the audio then whenever Bane speaks all the characters in the movie should be like "What?" If we can't understand him why would they be able to
Well if Nolan doesn't change the audio then whenever Bane speaks all the characters in the movie should be like "What?" If we can't understand him why would they be able to
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4:50PM on 01/03/2012
just wait for the blu ray to come out and select english subtitles, this way you get to at least understand what the hell Bane is saying. I would love to see it in theaters and all that, but looks like i am going to have to wait til it hits blu ray.
just wait for the blu ray to come out and select english subtitles, this way you get to at least understand what the hell Bane is saying. I would love to see it in theaters and all that, but looks like i am going to have to wait til it hits blu ray.
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4:32PM on 01/03/2012
A – if you don’t understand him, it’s not a deal breaker – You get the gist of what he is saying, so Nolan says that’s good enough.

B – some will hate it and it will take them out of the movie.

C – if they decide to fix the audio then no one is going to complain. You wont here “Damn it, I understood all of Bane’s dialogue, this movie sucks.” No one is going to have ANY negative comments if they CAN understand Bane.

So why not choose C?

Does it really hurt Nolan’s vision if people
A – if you don’t understand him, it’s not a deal breaker – You get the gist of what he is saying, so Nolan says that’s good enough.

B – some will hate it and it will take them out of the movie.

C – if they decide to fix the audio then no one is going to complain. You wont here “Damn it, I understood all of Bane’s dialogue, this movie sucks.” No one is going to have ANY negative comments if they CAN understand Bane.

So why not choose C?

Does it really hurt Nolan’s vision if people can understand Bane? Is the comic book adaptation going to blur Bane’s dialogue on paper? No. Just fix the voice. If not though, it wont shatter my dreams or anything!
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3:45PM on 01/03/2012
Its not background noise or calibration of your theaters. It is the way he talks that makes it hard to understand. It sounds cool but at the same time it is a voice that you have to get use to in order to understand him. And can people please stop with the "I don't see what the problem is" bullshit. Just because you claim to have understood him perfectly fine doesn't mean that the bulk of people who didn't understand it have some type of hearing problem.
Its not background noise or calibration of your theaters. It is the way he talks that makes it hard to understand. It sounds cool but at the same time it is a voice that you have to get use to in order to understand him. And can people please stop with the "I don't see what the problem is" bullshit. Just because you claim to have understood him perfectly fine doesn't mean that the bulk of people who didn't understand it have some type of hearing problem.
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3:39PM on 01/03/2012

HA!

Your update made me laugh...and I may be in the minority but I don't care if they fix it or not. I had no problems with hearing him and I understood him and I loved his voice. I do agree that the background noise is loud...but it's supposed to be.
Your update made me laugh...and I may be in the minority but I don't care if they fix it or not. I had no problems with hearing him and I understood him and I loved his voice. I do agree that the background noise is loud...but it's supposed to be.
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2:54PM on 01/03/2012

To all who say they heard it fine...

Your theatres must have been on top of it cause tons of people during my showing had no idea what he was saying. The voice channel was too low under the surrounding channels. It's not a question of understanding what he's saying, we simply couldn't hear him cause he was too low.
Your theatres must have been on top of it cause tons of people during my showing had no idea what he was saying. The voice channel was too low under the surrounding channels. It's not a question of understanding what he's saying, we simply couldn't hear him cause he was too low.
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9:06PM on 01/03/2012
no but the speakers on my laptop are top notch..thumbs up
no but the speakers on my laptop are top notch..thumbs up
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2:49PM on 01/03/2012

no problem

I'm not sure if the new audio track thing is true or not, but I saw the prologue in front of MI on sunday and i understood almost everything Bane said. Even my wife who is always asking during movies "what did he say?" heard most of it. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Yes his voice is muffled and you have to pay attention but it is definitely understandable. And it should only get easier to understand deeper into the movie as the audience gets used to it.

Edit: What I meant to add
I'm not sure if the new audio track thing is true or not, but I saw the prologue in front of MI on sunday and i understood almost everything Bane said. Even my wife who is always asking during movies "what did he say?" heard most of it. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Yes his voice is muffled and you have to pay attention but it is definitely understandable. And it should only get easier to understand deeper into the movie as the audience gets used to it.

Edit: What I meant to add at the end was... It makes me think that the audio at some of these IMAX theaters was off somehow.
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2:26PM on 01/03/2012
It's probably a good thing in the end. I saw the prologue in IMAX and heard quite a few of Bane's lines absolutely fine. I think the main issue was that the scene takes place on a plane which drowned out some dialogue (and not just Bane's dialogue either). I can't help but chuckle a bit at people saying they couldn't understand a single word.
It's probably a good thing in the end. I saw the prologue in IMAX and heard quite a few of Bane's lines absolutely fine. I think the main issue was that the scene takes place on a plane which drowned out some dialogue (and not just Bane's dialogue either). I can't help but chuckle a bit at people saying they couldn't understand a single word.
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2:18PM on 01/03/2012
If the cut out a lot of the noise in the background then you should have absolutely no trouble understanding him. I saw it a couple weeks ago and understood him fine!
If the cut out a lot of the noise in the background then you should have absolutely no trouble understanding him. I saw it a couple weeks ago and understood him fine!
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1:52PM on 01/03/2012
Too. Much. Exaggerating!
Too. Much. Exaggerating!
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1:41PM on 01/03/2012

Sounded okay to me

I really had no problem understanding what Tom Hardy was saying in the prologue. Only a couple words were garbled to me, but I understood what was being implied.
I really had no problem understanding what Tom Hardy was saying in the prologue. Only a couple words were garbled to me, but I understood what was being implied.
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1:35PM on 01/03/2012

No way..

any man, woman or child understood ANYTHING Bane said in the prologue.

All of the "I heard the one line in the trailer fine" messages I keep seeing, haven't seen the 6 minute, many lines, Bane was in during the prologue.

any man, woman or child understood ANYTHING Bane said in the prologue.

All of the "I heard the one line in the trailer fine" messages I keep seeing, haven't seen the 6 minute, many lines, Bane was in during the prologue.

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1:59PM on 01/03/2012
I saw the prologue a couple of weeks ago and had no issues with understanding him. I will admit one or two words were lost but I never had an issue understanding what he was trying to say...and on top of that, I thought his voice sounded cool.
I saw the prologue a couple of weeks ago and had no issues with understanding him. I will admit one or two words were lost but I never had an issue understanding what he was trying to say...and on top of that, I thought his voice sounded cool.
2:16PM on 01/03/2012
I saw the prologue a couple weeks ago and understood him fine. His first line is awesome. He says " What is the point of shooting a man before throwing him out of a plane?!" Proof that i could understand him :)his voice is cool as fuck sounding! I think people are just wanting something to complain about for TDKR.
I saw the prologue a couple weeks ago and understood him fine. His first line is awesome. He says " What is the point of shooting a man before throwing him out of a plane?!" Proof that i could understand him :)his voice is cool as fuck sounding! I think people are just wanting something to complain about for TDKR.
6:26PM on 01/03/2012
Huh? I didn't understand your run on sentence perhaps you could re-type it for me.
Huh? I didn't understand your run on sentence perhaps you could re-type it for me.
6:46PM on 01/03/2012
pulpfictionfan1 - his first line was actually, "perhaps he is wondering why someone would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane" - so yea sounds like you didnt understand him, you just kind of got the gist of it...
pulpfictionfan1 - his first line was actually, "perhaps he is wondering why someone would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane" - so yea sounds like you didnt understand him, you just kind of got the gist of it...
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1:27PM on 01/03/2012
Personally, I didn't have a problem understanding Bane, in-fact I really liked the voice.
Personally, I didn't have a problem understanding Bane, in-fact I really liked the voice.
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1:14PM on 01/03/2012

@Captain Planet

Really? I thought he said...
"When condoms is in splashes, you have my commission to cry!"
Really? I thought he said...
"When condoms is in splashes, you have my commission to cry!"
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1:20PM on 01/03/2012
hahahahaha
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1:11PM on 01/03/2012
I don't get what the big fuss is. The trailer line was perfectly clear to me.
"When Carson is in asses, you have my mission to dance".
Yes, it's weird, abstract and esoteric, but it totally blows my mind and will no doubt make perfect sense in context.
I don't get what the big fuss is. The trailer line was perfectly clear to me.
"When Carson is in asses, you have my mission to dance".
Yes, it's weird, abstract and esoteric, but it totally blows my mind and will no doubt make perfect sense in context.
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1:08PM on 01/03/2012

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Remember dude, all IMAX theatres are not calibrated equally. So when I say that I maybe got one line that Bane said in the prologue, you can take it to the bank. I couldn't tell a word he said and I have pretty sensitive hearing. The atmosphere noise was too overpowering.
Remember dude, all IMAX theatres are not calibrated equally. So when I say that I maybe got one line that Bane said in the prologue, you can take it to the bank. I couldn't tell a word he said and I have pretty sensitive hearing. The atmosphere noise was too overpowering.
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1:04PM on 01/03/2012

I struggled with the trailer line

I know a lot of people who had no issues what-so-ever, and I wish I could say I was one of them, but I wasn't.
I can hear the line from the trailer now, now that I've read it a million times on forums over and over, it's obvious what it is. But when I first saw the trailer, all I heard was "When Gotham ee aarrshhhhhs uhh uve my permission to die"
And admittedly it had me worried for the end product.
I know a lot of people who had no issues what-so-ever, and I wish I could say I was one of them, but I wasn't.
I can hear the line from the trailer now, now that I've read it a million times on forums over and over, it's obvious what it is. But when I first saw the trailer, all I heard was "When Gotham ee aarrshhhhhs uhh uve my permission to die"
And admittedly it had me worried for the end product.
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12:52PM on 01/03/2012
Did you really not understand a single word Bane said? C'mon dude, I'm not even a native speaker but I understood most of it. Not all mind you, but saying you didn't understand a thing is a bit of an exaggeration
Did you really not understand a single word Bane said? C'mon dude, I'm not even a native speaker but I understood most of it. Not all mind you, but saying you didn't understand a thing is a bit of an exaggeration
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