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What did you think of...Star Trek Into Darkness

May. 17, 2013by:

JJ Abrams' first shot at reviving the STAR TREK franchise was a massive success both critically and financially (overall worldwide gross of $385M), but it looks like his follow-up, STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS, is poised to become an even bigger hit which ceertainly doesn't hurt the man who was recently chosen as the visionary behind the STAR WARS franchise revival, does it? On the homefront, both of our critics really enjoyed the new film (Eric Walkuski gave it a 7/10, while Chris Bumbray offered it a 8/10), but as per most summer blockbuster films, we want to know what you thought of the film so please feel free to POST YOUR OWN REVIEW in our strike back section below (or to your Movie Fan Central profile) and we'll continue to update the Rotten Tomatoes and MFC reviews over the next few days as well.

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1:13AM on 05/17/2013

9/10

I thought the film was a fantastic summer blockbuster. Jam packed with action, interesting character dynamics, great acting, and truckloads of heart. Hardcore Star Trek fans may bristle at the villain of the piece, but I thought it was well handled, interesting, and the reversal in the third act was a nice touch followed by a brilliant fight/chase sequence. I can understand why the reversal might upset some people, but Spock’s work in the 3rd act was worth the price of admission alone for
I thought the film was a fantastic summer blockbuster. Jam packed with action, interesting character dynamics, great acting, and truckloads of heart. Hardcore Star Trek fans may bristle at the villain of the piece, but I thought it was well handled, interesting, and the reversal in the third act was a nice touch followed by a brilliant fight/chase sequence. I can understand why the reversal might upset some people, but Spock’s work in the 3rd act was worth the price of admission alone for me. And come on… (MILD SPOILER ALERT)… there's a battle whilst 2 ships are at warp, for goodness sakes. How cool is that? I'm seeing it again, this time in 3D.
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12:44AM on 05/20/2013
My issue with whom the villain is, is how pointless it is for it to be him. It adds nothing to the story or character development of anyone.
My issue with whom the villain is, is how pointless it is for it to be him. It adds nothing to the story or character development of anyone.
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1:22AM on 05/17/2013

Fantastic, fun movie

Some of the hate for this movie baffles me, it was one of the best summer blockbusters I've ever seen. And Cumberbatch..... god damn.
Some of the hate for this movie baffles me, it was one of the best summer blockbusters I've ever seen. And Cumberbatch..... god damn.
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12:41AM on 05/20/2013
And all the love for this movie baffles me. So I guess we're even.
And all the love for this movie baffles me. So I guess we're even.
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1:30AM on 05/17/2013

Elementary

Sherlock owned this movie! Voice reminded me of Hans Freakin Gruber.
Sherlock owned this movie! Voice reminded me of Hans Freakin Gruber.
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1:41AM on 05/17/2013
Fantastic movie. Consistently entertaining, great story, everyone did even better as their respective characters this time around. Even Alice Eve, who I usually have no interest in, I thought was great here. I felt like summer had come early for me as this is exactly how a summer blockbuster is supposed to be.
Fantastic movie. Consistently entertaining, great story, everyone did even better as their respective characters this time around. Even Alice Eve, who I usually have no interest in, I thought was great here. I felt like summer had come early for me as this is exactly how a summer blockbuster is supposed to be.
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1:43AM on 05/17/2013
It's the best thing I've seen in theatres the whole year. Sweeps you right up during the opening wacky away mission and just never lets the attention go. I've heard some complain that it's too fast-paced and manic, and I can see where they're coming from - but I'd take that over a boring movie any day. While things were always moving, they never got overly loud or messy. I think that this is the template for creating the ideal summer blockbuster - it's big on the spectacle, the action and the
It's the best thing I've seen in theatres the whole year. Sweeps you right up during the opening wacky away mission and just never lets the attention go. I've heard some complain that it's too fast-paced and manic, and I can see where they're coming from - but I'd take that over a boring movie any day. While things were always moving, they never got overly loud or messy. I think that this is the template for creating the ideal summer blockbuster - it's big on the spectacle, the action and the visuals, but it also has lots of great character moments and a solid story that makes sense running through it. It's kind of the anti-Transformers Revenge of the Fallen in that way. I also really liked the shoutouts and references and I think it's respectful in its own way. There are those who will say Trek's not meant to be fun, it's meant to be intelligent and ponderous - but I beg to differ. Roddenberry wanted to entertain, too, and he probably would've had a blast seeing his creations go on such a ride.
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2:26AM on 05/17/2013
9/10 I've had time to mull over the segment Trekkies will groan about and don't mind the role-reversal so to speak. While watching it unfold I was like Wow really this seems kind of weak, but don't mind it now. That being said, Spock was totally boss in the 3rd act. I think I'll check it out in 3d for a 2nd viewing. Am I alone in thinking this film came off as a Spock movie more-so than any other character?
9/10 I've had time to mull over the segment Trekkies will groan about and don't mind the role-reversal so to speak. While watching it unfold I was like Wow really this seems kind of weak, but don't mind it now. That being said, Spock was totally boss in the 3rd act. I think I'll check it out in 3d for a 2nd viewing. Am I alone in thinking this film came off as a Spock movie more-so than any other character?
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2:36AM on 05/17/2013
Not as fun as the first movie was but I loved the hell out of it. Probably my favorite movie if the year thus far! Cannot wait to see it again! I hope the next movie comes in less than 4 years, but if we keep getting these level of quality films I can wait another 4 years! Easily a 9/10!
Not as fun as the first movie was but I loved the hell out of it. Probably my favorite movie if the year thus far! Cannot wait to see it again! I hope the next movie comes in less than 4 years, but if we keep getting these level of quality films I can wait another 4 years! Easily a 9/10!
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3:08AM on 05/17/2013

loved it

Loved every minute of it.
Exactly what a summer blockbuster should be. Its action packed, its funny, its smart, its a visual treat.
This is second only to django of movies i saw in the cinema this year.

I was already pretty sold on JJ for star wars, but this just filled me with fresh confidence, a new hope if you will.
Loved every minute of it.
Exactly what a summer blockbuster should be. Its action packed, its funny, its smart, its a visual treat.
This is second only to django of movies i saw in the cinema this year.

I was already pretty sold on JJ for star wars, but this just filled me with fresh confidence, a new hope if you will.
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10:36AM on 05/17/2013
+1 for you. Probably the only post that you have written that I agree with.
+1 for you. Probably the only post that you have written that I agree with.
10:12AM on 05/17/2013
I know man.
Me and my nonstop trolling!

I know man.
Me and my nonstop trolling!

8:44AM on 05/17/2013
You write a positive comment and people are giving you the thumbs down. Haters gonna hate.
You write a positive comment and people are giving you the thumbs down. Haters gonna hate.
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4:52AM on 05/17/2013
Saw it 3 times now in IMAX and it gets better every time. It will be hard to beat this year for sheer entertainment.
Saw it 3 times now in IMAX and it gets better every time. It will be hard to beat this year for sheer entertainment.
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4:59PM on 05/18/2013
I'm a projectionist
I'm a projectionist
5:55PM on 05/17/2013
Already saw it 3 times in IMAX...time to call 1 800 GET A LIFE. I mean it was pretty good...but really...3 times?!
Already saw it 3 times in IMAX...time to call 1 800 GET A LIFE. I mean it was pretty good...but really...3 times?!
6:36AM on 05/17/2013

Should've changed the title of this movie to Star Trek Into MOTHER-FUCKING AWESOMENESS!!!

Sorry...I couldn't resist.
Sorry...I couldn't resist.
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7:41AM on 05/17/2013
Mother Father Awesomeness
Mother Father Awesomeness
7:51AM on 05/17/2013
I'm not a Trekkie..so it's safe to say I wouldn't know if something was altered too much or changed more than it should have been. That sort of ignorance allowed me to enjoy the hell out of this movie. It's big and colorful and full of very likable characters. Intense from start to finish. I may not have gotten all the references, but I understood some nods to the fans and I'm really, really happy for them. The last thing you need is someone f*cking up your mythology/childhood. I'm pretty sure
I'm not a Trekkie..so it's safe to say I wouldn't know if something was altered too much or changed more than it should have been. That sort of ignorance allowed me to enjoy the hell out of this movie. It's big and colorful and full of very likable characters. Intense from start to finish. I may not have gotten all the references, but I understood some nods to the fans and I'm really, really happy for them. The last thing you need is someone f*cking up your mythology/childhood. I'm pretty sure Abrams gave them exactly what they had hoped for. As for me, a non-Trekkie, I couldn't have asked for a better film this summer.

Now to see if Man Of Steel delivers.
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7:53AM on 05/17/2013

Awesome

I loved every minute of it. JJ needs to finish this trilogy off before Star Wars. Zach Quinto stole the show for me.
I loved every minute of it. JJ needs to finish this trilogy off before Star Wars. Zach Quinto stole the show for me.
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8:32AM on 05/17/2013
the title of the movie is dumb as shit but the movie itself was great. best star trek movie theres been. in my opinion that spot previously belonged to first contact.

still had annoying lens flairs but not as much as the last movie
the title of the movie is dumb as shit but the movie itself was great. best star trek movie theres been. in my opinion that spot previously belonged to first contact.

still had annoying lens flairs but not as much as the last movie
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10:10AM on 05/17/2013
Loved it. Alice Eve's hotness was a highlight.
Star Wars VII is in EXTREMELY capable hands...
Loved it. Alice Eve's hotness was a highlight.
Star Wars VII is in EXTREMELY capable hands...
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10:17AM on 05/17/2013
After the last three shitty Star Wars movies and the last two amazing Star Trek movies, I'm gonna go ahead and switch sides and say that Star Trek is the much better series. Also Into Darkness was the fucking tits!
After the last three shitty Star Wars movies and the last two amazing Star Trek movies, I'm gonna go ahead and switch sides and say that Star Trek is the much better series. Also Into Darkness was the fucking tits!
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10:18AM on 05/17/2013
Star Trek Into Darkness was great. Easily the film of the summer so far. Seeing the film in IMAX 3D was incredible and the film was non stop fun and action.

This film is what sequels and summer popcorn films are all about. Kudos to Abrams and co for giving us a hell of a good time and not only a great Star Trek film, but a GREAT film in general. Ten out of Ten.
Star Trek Into Darkness was great. Easily the film of the summer so far. Seeing the film in IMAX 3D was incredible and the film was non stop fun and action.

This film is what sequels and summer popcorn films are all about. Kudos to Abrams and co for giving us a hell of a good time and not only a great Star Trek film, but a GREAT film in general. Ten out of Ten.
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10:38AM on 05/17/2013
Snap!
Snap!
10:33AM on 05/17/2013
Totally agreed, it's a shining example of everything a summer blockbuster should be.
Totally agreed, it's a shining example of everything a summer blockbuster should be.
10:33AM on 05/17/2013

JJ's doing things right

The movie was entertaining as hell, I like how JJ also takes the smaller mythology of previous Star Trek incarnations and pays omage to them. In the first one it was Scotty being exiled to the ice planet for beaming and losing the enterprises tv series Capt. Archers beagle. In the new one its adopting DS9s section 31, starfleets covert Unit.
The movie was entertaining as hell, I like how JJ also takes the smaller mythology of previous Star Trek incarnations and pays omage to them. In the first one it was Scotty being exiled to the ice planet for beaming and losing the enterprises tv series Capt. Archers beagle. In the new one its adopting DS9s section 31, starfleets covert Unit.
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11:43AM on 05/17/2013

As a really big Trek fan I loved it

I can really just say that this Trek movie reiterated everything that the groundwork in the first one set out to do, and that's to set the course of this movie to the course of the originals with the exact same coordinates but to tilt the ship ever so slightly to the right. The franchise has become a mix of paying homage to the respective history of the characters but giving them a new destiny that breaks free a tiny bit from what you're used to... it's the quintessential alternate timeline in
I can really just say that this Trek movie reiterated everything that the groundwork in the first one set out to do, and that's to set the course of this movie to the course of the originals with the exact same coordinates but to tilt the ship ever so slightly to the right. The franchise has become a mix of paying homage to the respective history of the characters but giving them a new destiny that breaks free a tiny bit from what you're used to... it's the quintessential alternate timeline in every meaning that we've seen that phrase discussed in. It's that same alternate timeline that was brought up in Star Trek 2009 and if they're going to continue to do with these movies what they did with Into Darkness then I can safely say that my ass will be in the seat for every.single.one of them.
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12:31PM on 05/17/2013

I enjoyed it but -

I hope from here on put that the reboot takes its own cues and creates its own story - and before anyone mentions it - YES, the story was "different" and I liked this villain better than his predecessor but I was hoping to move on, also the "call" that Spock made toward the end - I hope that never happens again.
I hope from here on put that the reboot takes its own cues and creates its own story - and before anyone mentions it - YES, the story was "different" and I liked this villain better than his predecessor but I was hoping to move on, also the "call" that Spock made toward the end - I hope that never happens again.
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1:40AM on 05/18/2013
That was the only time the movie lost me. It had no effect on the story whatsoever.
That was the only time the movie lost me. It had no effect on the story whatsoever.
1:03PM on 05/17/2013

I may be biased, but

It was great.
It was great.
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3:30PM on 05/17/2013
Thus far, this is the best and most visually stunning movie of the summer in my opinion. One of the few movies I've seen where 3D didn't feel like a gimmick but actually enhanced the experience. Plot and returning cast members were great. Alice Eve and Peter Weller were nice and welcomed additions but Benedict Cumberbatch owned his role as John Harrison. If Abrams can do for Star Wars what he has done for Star Trek... *whistles*
Thus far, this is the best and most visually stunning movie of the summer in my opinion. One of the few movies I've seen where 3D didn't feel like a gimmick but actually enhanced the experience. Plot and returning cast members were great. Alice Eve and Peter Weller were nice and welcomed additions but Benedict Cumberbatch owned his role as John Harrison. If Abrams can do for Star Wars what he has done for Star Trek... *whistles*
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4:05PM on 05/17/2013

Not bad, Not Great

is a good movie that suffers the bad writing of Orci & K again. but JJ knows how to entertain. 7.5/10.
is a good movie that suffers the bad writing of Orci & K again. but JJ knows how to entertain. 7.5/10.
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4:24PM on 05/17/2013
"There hasn't been a truly great Star Wars movie in over 30 years (Empire), but I just saw a truly great Star Trek movie last night." - Patton Oswalt (talking about ' Star Trek Into Darkness'
"There hasn't been a truly great Star Wars movie in over 30 years (Empire), but I just saw a truly great Star Trek movie last night." - Patton Oswalt (talking about ' Star Trek Into Darkness'
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5:15PM on 05/17/2013
being a Trekkie my whole life i've never given a Trek film 10/10 till Wed night same as last years Skyfall never given a 007 film 10/10 i loved every minute of Into Darkness and was never bored Benedict Cumberbatch was awesome in the role (he was one of the big reason I was really excited to see the film) not to say the rest of the cast wasn't great but Benny stole the movie that's all i can really say about the film cuz i don't wanna spoil it for others if you can watch the film in IMAX 3D
being a Trekkie my whole life i've never given a Trek film 10/10 till Wed night same as last years Skyfall never given a 007 film 10/10 i loved every minute of Into Darkness and was never bored Benedict Cumberbatch was awesome in the role (he was one of the big reason I was really excited to see the film) not to say the rest of the cast wasn't great but Benny stole the movie that's all i can really say about the film cuz i don't wanna spoil it for others if you can watch the film in IMAX 3D
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10:23PM on 05/17/2013
Sad news to hear a Trekkie liking this crapfest. Dude, JJ fucking hates Star Trek that is why is messing it up.
Sad news to hear a Trekkie liking this crapfest. Dude, JJ fucking hates Star Trek that is why is messing it up.
5:15PM on 05/17/2013
Loved this movie, I had no problem with the new changes to cannon and staying away from any adds, interviews or press kits allowed me to be truly surprised. Can't wait to see it again!
Loved this movie, I had no problem with the new changes to cannon and staying away from any adds, interviews or press kits allowed me to be truly surprised. Can't wait to see it again!
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6:53PM on 05/17/2013

Definitely was not short on action

Quite the thrill-ride. I thought it went on for maybe one action sequence too long. And it didn't need to bring in SO many Wrath of Khan-isms to the story. But damn, that was some of the most spectacular action I've seen. JJ's a no brainer for Star Wars. I just wonder how he'll adjust his approach to differentiate between the two franchises. Cumberbatch was fantastic. And the shots of the Enterprise underwater and fighting during warp speed were awesome.
Quite the thrill-ride. I thought it went on for maybe one action sequence too long. And it didn't need to bring in SO many Wrath of Khan-isms to the story. But damn, that was some of the most spectacular action I've seen. JJ's a no brainer for Star Wars. I just wonder how he'll adjust his approach to differentiate between the two franchises. Cumberbatch was fantastic. And the shots of the Enterprise underwater and fighting during warp speed were awesome.
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7:30PM on 05/17/2013

3D?

I didn't see it in 3D. Was it worth it? I'm finding that 3D has become more of an annoyance for me than anything.
I didn't see it in 3D. Was it worth it? I'm finding that 3D has become more of an annoyance for me than anything.
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11:45AM on 05/19/2013
You should see it in IMAX... But it means you'd have to watch it in 3D as well...
Still, 3D is usually more effective in IMAX anyway...
You should see it in IMAX... But it means you'd have to watch it in 3D as well...
Still, 3D is usually more effective in IMAX anyway...
7:45PM on 05/18/2013
That's why I can't do 3D anymore. I am glad I saved my money.
That's why I can't do 3D anymore. I am glad I saved my money.
2:51PM on 05/18/2013
I agree with Jedd on that one.
I agree with Jedd on that one.
1:44AM on 05/18/2013
I think more effort was put into the 3D for the opening sequence (look out for the spears!) than the rest of the film.
I think more effort was put into the 3D for the opening sequence (look out for the spears!) than the rest of the film.
7:39PM on 05/17/2013

No.

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS is the equivalent of the second half of Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN remake: A great story that was told perfectly well thirty years previous, now needlessly squished onto a smaller canvas. It doesn't work.

And I adore both the original series and JJ's reboot.
STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS is the equivalent of the second half of Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN remake: A great story that was told perfectly well thirty years previous, now needlessly squished onto a smaller canvas. It doesn't work.

And I adore both the original series and JJ's reboot.
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12:57AM on 05/20/2013
Dear Halloweenshape & J-Man,
Thank you guys! I agree with you two (for the most part). It was bland and boring, with too many climaxes and it stuck too closely to the last half of WOK to really become it's own entity. More importantly, the villain being that particular person adds nothing to the story. It's awful!
Dear Halloweenshape & J-Man,
Thank you guys! I agree with you two (for the most part). It was bland and boring, with too many climaxes and it stuck too closely to the last half of WOK to really become it's own entity. More importantly, the villain being that particular person adds nothing to the story. It's awful!
10:21PM on 05/17/2013
I may be the only one here who agrees with you. Actually i didnt like the first film either. Why not just make new characters with new adventures. Why bother messing up the classic characters and dumbing down previous plot lines. I dont agree with you in the sense that JJ is a good film maker. I think he sucks. He only does things because he thinks it's what people want, but he doesnt understand WHY something was great. He gives Spock emotions, not to explore his humanity, but just to kiss
I may be the only one here who agrees with you. Actually i didnt like the first film either. Why not just make new characters with new adventures. Why bother messing up the classic characters and dumbing down previous plot lines. I dont agree with you in the sense that JJ is a good film maker. I think he sucks. He only does things because he thinks it's what people want, but he doesnt understand WHY something was great. He gives Spock emotions, not to explore his humanity, but just to kiss Uhura and fight with Kirk. I thought in the first film he would come to decide to purge his emotions (or surpress them) after some kind of event or something, but no, he just fights Kirk.

This entire JJ Trek universe is messed up. If he had just done something new there wouldnt be this mess. Oh well, at least Doctor Who is still great. Oh and Cumberbatch is a fantastic actor, Sherlock rocks.
8:06PM on 05/17/2013

Thoroughly Enjoyed It

As an almost 56-year-old kid at heart, I thoroughly enjoyed it. The 3D was fairly subtle, but still quite immersive in some scenes. They did cram in quite a lot of nudge-nudge, wink-wink bits to the fans, but it's Star Trek - you want Star Trek stuff, right? Performances were great across the board, and the quieter character moments were well-earned, IMHO. I will see it again in the theater.
As an almost 56-year-old kid at heart, I thoroughly enjoyed it. The 3D was fairly subtle, but still quite immersive in some scenes. They did cram in quite a lot of nudge-nudge, wink-wink bits to the fans, but it's Star Trek - you want Star Trek stuff, right? Performances were great across the board, and the quieter character moments were well-earned, IMHO. I will see it again in the theater.
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8:43PM on 05/17/2013

Loved It!

9/10...great movie!
9/10...great movie!
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9:39PM on 05/17/2013
An average sequel, but I enjoyed it. For me, it was Benedict Cumberbatch. He stole the show for me, and wished he had more on screen time.
An average sequel, but I enjoyed it. For me, it was Benedict Cumberbatch. He stole the show for me, and wished he had more on screen time.
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10:28PM on 05/17/2013

Question --

Has anyone on here who was NOT a Trekkie (Trekker is the prefered term), who liked JJ's movies, gone back to watch any classic trek, or even DS9 or Next Gen. See when i say i LOVE something new - i usually go back and see where it came from. I did it with Battlestar, Doctor Who etc.
To that end, has anyone liked JJ's trek, gone back and liked the classic stuff better? Or do you just stop with JJ's version?
Has anyone on here who was NOT a Trekkie (Trekker is the prefered term), who liked JJ's movies, gone back to watch any classic trek, or even DS9 or Next Gen. See when i say i LOVE something new - i usually go back and see where it came from. I did it with Battlestar, Doctor Who etc.
To that end, has anyone liked JJ's trek, gone back and liked the classic stuff better? Or do you just stop with JJ's version?
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11:55PM on 05/18/2013
Grew up watching the old trek, saw every trek movie in the theatre, watched NG and D9. Didnt like Voyager or Enterprise. Love what JJ has done with the new Trek films. Into Darkness was Awesome. Does that answer your question?
Grew up watching the old trek, saw every trek movie in the theatre, watched NG and D9. Didnt like Voyager or Enterprise. Love what JJ has done with the new Trek films. Into Darkness was Awesome. Does that answer your question?
3:54PM on 05/18/2013
I always used to sit and watch Star Trek with my dad when I was young, (mainly the series with Patrick Stewart) but I honestly have no interest in going back and watching it in my adult life. Maybe I will one day...I would be curious to see if the Shatner series is as 'Shatner' as I hear that it is. I just have far too much TV to watch already haha
I always used to sit and watch Star Trek with my dad when I was young, (mainly the series with Patrick Stewart) but I honestly have no interest in going back and watching it in my adult life. Maybe I will one day...I would be curious to see if the Shatner series is as 'Shatner' as I hear that it is. I just have far too much TV to watch already haha
7:25AM on 05/18/2013
Thanks for the replies!
Jedi - you should see some of the episodes - i think DS9 may be to your liking since that one had a bit more action.
Master - i am currently doing all the doctor who's - that is even worse than trek, since its lasted forever.
drew - thats the way to do it man! hahaha - i did that myself, but i started it after i saw DS9 so it wasnt too bad! Actually DS9 is my fave of the trek shows - a lot of great social commentary along with some really amazing characters - i think
Thanks for the replies!
Jedi - you should see some of the episodes - i think DS9 may be to your liking since that one had a bit more action.
Master - i am currently doing all the doctor who's - that is even worse than trek, since its lasted forever.
drew - thats the way to do it man! hahaha - i did that myself, but i started it after i saw DS9 so it wasnt too bad! Actually DS9 is my fave of the trek shows - a lot of great social commentary along with some really amazing characters - i think for characters, DS9 is the best. But all of star trek is cool.

ps - not sure why i get thumbs down for asking a question - talking to people and getting their opinions is what this site is about.
3:49AM on 05/18/2013
After Netflix got all of the Star Trek series I watched everything in chronological order from Enterprise to Voyager. It took me 17 months and I started this because I had seen all of the movies and an episode here or there but wasn't a real Trek fan until the 2009 movie. I still wouldn't call myself a Trekker/Trekkie but I am more than familiar with the world and I still think that the reboot universe is the best iteration of the franchise. However, I was really surprised and impressed at how
After Netflix got all of the Star Trek series I watched everything in chronological order from Enterprise to Voyager. It took me 17 months and I started this because I had seen all of the movies and an episode here or there but wasn't a real Trek fan until the 2009 movie. I still wouldn't call myself a Trekker/Trekkie but I am more than familiar with the world and I still think that the reboot universe is the best iteration of the franchise. However, I was really surprised and impressed at how great Deep Space Nine was.
12:20AM on 05/18/2013
I'll admit I hadn't watched any episodes of the series, nor many of the movies (other than Nemesis and Insurrection) before seeing either the first JJ Abrams one or this new one, but I DID actually watch the first episode of the original series on Netflix. I know that contradicts the beginning of the sentence, but I'm too lazy to go back and reword it as I'm extremely tired.

I loved that first episode... and want to watch the rest, but it's such a daunting task, haha. SO many episodes,
I'll admit I hadn't watched any episodes of the series, nor many of the movies (other than Nemesis and Insurrection) before seeing either the first JJ Abrams one or this new one, but I DID actually watch the first episode of the original series on Netflix. I know that contradicts the beginning of the sentence, but I'm too lazy to go back and reword it as I'm extremely tired.

I loved that first episode... and want to watch the rest, but it's such a daunting task, haha. SO many episodes, storylines, character arcs, mythology, etc. etc.

I did buy the Next Generation: Best of Both Worlds Blu-ray the other day, though :)
11:16PM on 05/17/2013
After enjoying Star Trek '09, my friend (who's an old-school Trekker) made me watch Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home and Undiscovered Country. I did prefer the Abrams Trek, but it was nice to see part of where it all came from.
After enjoying Star Trek '09, my friend (who's an old-school Trekker) made me watch Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home and Undiscovered Country. I did prefer the Abrams Trek, but it was nice to see part of where it all came from.
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11:02PM on 05/17/2013

In short...

Saw it, loved it, seriously considering seeing it again! A good old fashion summer blockbuster.
Saw it, loved it, seriously considering seeing it again! A good old fashion summer blockbuster.
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11:36PM on 05/17/2013
I forgot. If a film with any outside material isn't perfect and flawless in every way than it sucks. I know.its Star Trek but come on. Why are some people nitpicking what they like and don't like so much. This movie was a blast whether or not people were familiar with the canon or not, which was the point.
I forgot. If a film with any outside material isn't perfect and flawless in every way than it sucks. I know.its Star Trek but come on. Why are some people nitpicking what they like and don't like so much. This movie was a blast whether or not people were familiar with the canon or not, which was the point.
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4:12AM on 05/19/2013
It doesn't suck. But it's got a couple big issues, but I still liked it
It doesn't suck. But it's got a couple big issues, but I still liked it
12:33AM on 05/18/2013

Absolutely loved it.

Unfortunately, the spoiler I heard from a few months ago ended up being true, so this first viewing will be ever-so-slightly soured by that (this will be rectified with a second viewing, I'm sure). Buuuut the rest of my experience was wonderful.

I'm not a Trekkie, and my only experience is with the very first episode of the original series, JJ Abrams' original movie, and Nemesis and Insurrection (I know, I know...), so I don't have the ability to nitpick this movie at all for whether or not
Unfortunately, the spoiler I heard from a few months ago ended up being true, so this first viewing will be ever-so-slightly soured by that (this will be rectified with a second viewing, I'm sure). Buuuut the rest of my experience was wonderful.

I'm not a Trekkie, and my only experience is with the very first episode of the original series, JJ Abrams' original movie, and Nemesis and Insurrection (I know, I know...), so I don't have the ability to nitpick this movie at all for whether or not it was accurate to the source material or whatever. Even if I did have the credentials necessary to pull off such a feat, it would be completely disrespectful to JJ Abrams and the entire crew for all the hard work they did on this movie. If I judged it on what I thought was wrong about JJ Abrams' vision... I don't think I could forgive myself. It's just low. It's like getting angry that your friend drew a character from a novel that was different from your vision.

Okay, now that we got that out of the way: extremely impressed by this movie. A breath of fresh air from the extreme disappointment that was Iron Man 3. What Iron Man 3 lacked, Star Trek Into Darkness added and improved upon ten-fold. Everything about it was better. The story was consistent, the special effects looked amazing, the music was perfect and outstanding, there was actual SUSPENSE and EMOTION, and best of all, never once did I feel the movie ventured into corny territory, whereas Iron Man 3 unfortunately frolicked around gracefully in the territory of corn.

It might be unfair to compare this to Iron Man 3, but I did it anyway. So whatever.

It was wonderful. Everything about it was just amazing. The ONLY things I had an issue with were:

- Karl Urban's character was really not much more than a one-liner/comic relief kind of character. Maybe this is how he was in Star Trek (2009), but it was much more apparent and bothersome in this one.
- Spock performing a callback to a previous part of the show was done at a most inopportune time. I thought it detracted a little from the overwhelming emotion that had built up from the previous exposition.. It was a minor thing, though. I understand callbacks, too, but I wish they placed it somewhere differently, though honestly I have no idea where they could have placed it otherwise.
- I feel they played the movie a little too safe, so as not to distress the children in the audience too much. Not on the level of the Disney-fest that was Iron Man 3, but there were a couple moments when the suspense felt cheapened by certain plot revelations or plot points.
- It felt a little slow in certain areas of the movie, but usually in those slow parts there were some great special effects to zone in on, so that made it less of a chore. Only a few parts that were slow, though!
- I was kind of hoping for a darker and more complex narrative. It was certainly dark, but not quite as dark as I wanted it to be, nor as complex as I thought it would be.

As you can see, all these complaints are so minor, and most are completely ridiculous haha. I bet they will be corrected with a second viewing, as I won't have that disappointment riding on my back (again, though, to be clear, that "disappointment" was so minor)

Even being spoiled on accident of something that ended up being true, my experience was not soured by that at all. It was a great ride from start to finish, and god DAMN those special effects are amazing.

My top for 2013 is:

1. Stoker
2. The Great Gatsby
3. Pain and Gain

But Star Trek Into Darkness is certainly not far behind, and based purely on the enjoyment factor it deserves a very high rank on my list. :) So happy it wasn't another Iron Man 3 debacle... god... don't get me started on that again... D:
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1:08AM on 05/20/2013
And it was disrespectful of JJ Abrams to stick so closely to the original material without giving a reason for it to make sense. Seriously, Cumberbatch, who was damn near perfect here, could have been any villain ever, and nothing would have really changed. He's simply Khan for the sake of having Khan, not because the overly convoluted story actually required it. It would be like of someone made a movie about Batman where he's chasing down a diamond thief, only for that diamond thief to be
And it was disrespectful of JJ Abrams to stick so closely to the original material without giving a reason for it to make sense. Seriously, Cumberbatch, who was damn near perfect here, could have been any villain ever, and nothing would have really changed. He's simply Khan for the sake of having Khan, not because the overly convoluted story actually required it. It would be like of someone made a movie about Batman where he's chasing down a diamond thief, only for that diamond thief to be revealed to be the Joker. But then he does nothing else that serves his purpose as being the Joker. Stole some diamonds, that's it. So why the hell is it the Joker?

Exact same idiotic thing here. It serves no purpose, and is insulting.
10:55PM on 05/19/2013
You were high when you wrote this huh? Its cool have fun, not knocking you for it.
You were high when you wrote this huh? Its cool have fun, not knocking you for it.
12:42AM on 05/18/2013
I forgot. If a film with any outside material isn't perfect and flawless in every way than it sucks. I know.its Star Trek but come on. Why are some people nitpicking what they like and don't like so much. This movie was a blast whether or not people were familiar with the canon or not, which was the point.
I forgot. If a film with any outside material isn't perfect and flawless in every way than it sucks. I know.its Star Trek but come on. Why are some people nitpicking what they like and don't like so much. This movie was a blast whether or not people were familiar with the canon or not, which was the point.
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1:36AM on 05/18/2013
Don't understand the boner for Cumberpatch... Quinto stole the show for me. Way better than what I saw last weekend (Iron Man 3) and a solid 8/10. Glad he's helming Star Wars. KHAAAAAAAN!
Don't understand the boner for Cumberpatch... Quinto stole the show for me. Way better than what I saw last weekend (Iron Man 3) and a solid 8/10. Glad he's helming Star Wars. KHAAAAAAAN!
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4:09AM on 05/19/2013
Bro. Spoiler alert. Show some respect.
Bro. Spoiler alert. Show some respect.
10:34AM on 05/18/2013

In short...

Fucking spectacular. STAR WARS is in great hands.
Fucking spectacular. STAR WARS is in great hands.
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11:44AM on 05/18/2013

AWESOME

8/10 for me. It was great!!!! So much fun and the story was simple enough to follow for non Trek fans and also had some allusions to the older films. Action was spectacular. Like another member said below, Quinto really stole the show. Also I read many reviews that said the other crew members of the Enterprise were almost non existent and had lesser roles, but I think the way they were handled was appropriate. Everyone had their fair share amount of screen time and did what they had to do and
8/10 for me. It was great!!!! So much fun and the story was simple enough to follow for non Trek fans and also had some allusions to the older films. Action was spectacular. Like another member said below, Quinto really stole the show. Also I read many reviews that said the other crew members of the Enterprise were almost non existent and had lesser roles, but I think the way they were handled was appropriate. Everyone had their fair share amount of screen time and did what they had to do and so did the leads such as Quinto and Pine. It was also nice to see Zaldana kicking some ass again as I feel she's disappeared for a while. Great film all around!
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2:46PM on 05/18/2013

Entertaining sci-fi action flick but...

...not in the true spirit if Star Trek. Amazingly the end of the film is where I wish it had started!
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...not in the true spirit if Star Trek. Amazingly the end of the film is where I wish it had started!
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3:50PM on 05/18/2013

LOVED IT!

I was never a Star Trek fan prior to the JJ Abrams films (it was before my time, and my dad watched the Picard series) but these films are so amazing to me. Abrams clearly has a passion for sci fi in general and I love that he throws some jokes and references in for the die hard Trekkies. Even if you don't love Star Trek or sci fi, these are just really solid movies. The new one was just as good as the first in my opinion. GO SEE IT!
I was never a Star Trek fan prior to the JJ Abrams films (it was before my time, and my dad watched the Picard series) but these films are so amazing to me. Abrams clearly has a passion for sci fi in general and I love that he throws some jokes and references in for the die hard Trekkies. Even if you don't love Star Trek or sci fi, these are just really solid movies. The new one was just as good as the first in my opinion. GO SEE IT!
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4:38PM on 05/18/2013
Review: Loved it as much as the first. Better than Star Wars 1-3. Can't wait for JJ to make Star Wars!
Something I noticed : At the end when everything is all good and they are all back on the ship. They keep saying "going on a five year journey" Five years five years five years....
Does this mean JJ will make the third one right after Star Wars? (Star Wars 2015 or 16. Five years from now will be 2018...???)
Review: Loved it as much as the first. Better than Star Wars 1-3. Can't wait for JJ to make Star Wars!
Something I noticed : At the end when everything is all good and they are all back on the ship. They keep saying "going on a five year journey" Five years five years five years....
Does this mean JJ will make the third one right after Star Wars? (Star Wars 2015 or 16. Five years from now will be 2018...???)
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9:08PM on 05/18/2013
The five year mission is what the original show and Next Generation were all about. Producers Robert Orci and Bryan Burk said that they hope to have Star Trek 3 out by 2016 (50th Anniversary of the series) so unfortunately I don't think J.J. will be back to direct but he wasn't even supposed to direct the other two and was always meant to produce. Fingers crossed they find a good director to take over the helm.
The five year mission is what the original show and Next Generation were all about. Producers Robert Orci and Bryan Burk said that they hope to have Star Trek 3 out by 2016 (50th Anniversary of the series) so unfortunately I don't think J.J. will be back to direct but he wasn't even supposed to direct the other two and was always meant to produce. Fingers crossed they find a good director to take over the helm.
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7:04PM on 05/18/2013

10/10

Loved it!
Loved it!
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8:42PM on 05/18/2013

star trek into awesomeness

it was lots of fun and just a great way to continue this awesome summer movie season.Better than the first and i loved the first one.My second favorite movie of the year right after iron man 3.my rating:10/10
it was lots of fun and just a great way to continue this awesome summer movie season.Better than the first and i loved the first one.My second favorite movie of the year right after iron man 3.my rating:10/10
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8:48PM on 05/18/2013

Fan-fucking-tastic

My favorite movie of the year so far. It had the perfect balance of action, humor, and heart. Excellent performances all around, so it's hard for me to pick a favorite. Maybe another viewing I'll decide. Best line of the movie is, "Dammit, I'm a doctor, not a torpedo technician!" It made me laugh long and prosper.
My favorite movie of the year so far. It had the perfect balance of action, humor, and heart. Excellent performances all around, so it's hard for me to pick a favorite. Maybe another viewing I'll decide. Best line of the movie is, "Dammit, I'm a doctor, not a torpedo technician!" It made me laugh long and prosper.
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10:33PM on 05/18/2013

Fantastic movie.

I loved Into Darkness. Favorite movie of the year? Maybe tied with the sorely underrated Warm Bodies. It's another reminder why I think J.J. Abrams is probably the best director of big "spectacle" films these days (or at least tied with Christopher Nolan). He has such an amazingly confident handling of action, storytelling, and emotion. Benedict Cumberbatch is getting a lot of love, and deservedly so, but I actually think Chris Pine was tops here. He's got a clear arc from a beginning to
I loved Into Darkness. Favorite movie of the year? Maybe tied with the sorely underrated Warm Bodies. It's another reminder why I think J.J. Abrams is probably the best director of big "spectacle" films these days (or at least tied with Christopher Nolan). He has such an amazingly confident handling of action, storytelling, and emotion. Benedict Cumberbatch is getting a lot of love, and deservedly so, but I actually think Chris Pine was tops here. He's got a clear arc from a beginning to end, and he completely sold it (I especially loved his "surrogate father and son" scenes with Bruce Greenwood's Admiral Pike).
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11:53PM on 05/18/2013

Loved It

Intense. Well Acted. Flipped things around from the old story. And....dare I say it....better then the first one.
Intense. Well Acted. Flipped things around from the old story. And....dare I say it....better then the first one.
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1:33AM on 05/19/2013
"Star Trek Into Darkness" is to "Star Trek" as "The Dark Knight" is to "Batman Begins". Both sequels which managed to be just as great, perhaps even better, than their predecessor. "Into Darkness" does the rare accomplishment of upping the action quota without sacrificing character and story.
"Star Trek Into Darkness" is to "Star Trek" as "The Dark Knight" is to "Batman Begins". Both sequels which managed to be just as great, perhaps even better, than their predecessor. "Into Darkness" does the rare accomplishment of upping the action quota without sacrificing character and story.
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3:53AM on 05/19/2013

Not without its problems, but ...

On the whole, this has to be the best Trek yet out of the reboot. Yes, I know it's only the 2nd movie in, but this one exceeded my expectations by far, especially with the "big reveal" (not giving it away here), which, though not kept secret well enough, will still thrill trekkies. The entire cast does adimirably, and Sean Penn is simply amazing as Scotty! Also, had Leonard Nimoy not still been alive, I'd swear that Zachary Quinto was channeling him as Spock. The only issue I have is in two
On the whole, this has to be the best Trek yet out of the reboot. Yes, I know it's only the 2nd movie in, but this one exceeded my expectations by far, especially with the "big reveal" (not giving it away here), which, though not kept secret well enough, will still thrill trekkies. The entire cast does adimirably, and Sean Penn is simply amazing as Scotty! Also, had Leonard Nimoy not still been alive, I'd swear that Zachary Quinto was channeling him as Spock. The only issue I have is in two nods to a previous Trek movie near to the end, which I know that fans won't like. It made even me uncomfortable, but didn't break the movie for me. All in all, it was a spacefaring adventure that grabbed me by the jibbley bits, squeezed hard, and didn't let go 'til the end. Everyone owes it to themselves to check this one out!
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1:14PM on 05/19/2013
Sean Penn??? Wow, he was nearly unrecognizable *cough*Simon Pegg*cough* ; )
Sean Penn??? Wow, he was nearly unrecognizable *cough*Simon Pegg*cough* ; )
4:40AM on 05/19/2013

Space Jockeys was an enjoyable film.

I call it Space Jockeys because it is difficult for me to call it Star Trek, since it really isn't, other than in name. Hell, Abrams even said he was making these films for people that didn't like Star Trek.

The nods to a former film, which I won't detail for those that haven't seen this one yet, seemed very forced, out of place, and unnecessary, especially in this rebooted universe. I gave those moments a quick groan, but wouldn't marked the film down for them.

Again, this film and the
I call it Space Jockeys because it is difficult for me to call it Star Trek, since it really isn't, other than in name. Hell, Abrams even said he was making these films for people that didn't like Star Trek.

The nods to a former film, which I won't detail for those that haven't seen this one yet, seemed very forced, out of place, and unnecessary, especially in this rebooted universe. I gave those moments a quick groan, but wouldn't marked the film down for them.

Again, this film and the last were entertaining, just not Star Trek films to me. I guess I'm just an old Trekker who liked his Star Trek the way it was and didn't need it to be updated for today's ADHD masses.
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1:15AM on 05/20/2013
Amen brother! I agree 100%!
Amen brother! I agree 100%!
4:47AM on 05/19/2013

Space Jockeys was an enjoyable film.

Double post. :(
Double post. :(
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12:46PM on 05/19/2013

upon 2nd viewing...

I enjoyed the hell out of it. Saw a midnighter on Wednesday (natch, Thursday morn) and must have been tired because I thought it was lousy and melodramatic. Don't know what I was thinking. Saw it again last evening (in 3D this time) and fucking loved it.
Huzzah, Mr. Abrams. Hu-fucking-zah.
I enjoyed the hell out of it. Saw a midnighter on Wednesday (natch, Thursday morn) and must have been tired because I thought it was lousy and melodramatic. Don't know what I was thinking. Saw it again last evening (in 3D this time) and fucking loved it.
Huzzah, Mr. Abrams. Hu-fucking-zah.
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1:57PM on 05/19/2013
Oups, sorry, I don't know what happened, my post was, obviously meant for StrandDread...
Oups, sorry, I don't know what happened, my post was, obviously meant for StrandDread...
1:41PM on 05/19/2013
Be more careful NOT posting SPOILERS, please...
Thanks.
Be more careful NOT posting SPOILERS, please...
Thanks.
12:59PM on 05/19/2013

Nothing was expanded upon

He took the young Star Trek characters plus the Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan script and flipped it around a bit. That said, it was still fun and well done.
He took the young Star Trek characters plus the Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan script and flipped it around a bit. That said, it was still fun and well done.
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5:41PM on 05/19/2013
Will do.
Will do.
4:03PM on 05/19/2013
I know...
But sometime, people read this section BEFORE seeing the movie, to have others' opinions about it...
Or some read it before the movie is released in their own country...
Maybe you could put a 'spoiler warning' in front of your post, just in case...
Thanks
I know...
But sometime, people read this section BEFORE seeing the movie, to have others' opinions about it...
Or some read it before the movie is released in their own country...
Maybe you could put a 'spoiler warning' in front of your post, just in case...
Thanks
2:21PM on 05/19/2013
This isn't a review section as much as a place to discuss the film, or so I thought.
This isn't a review section as much as a place to discuss the film, or so I thought.
1:56PM on 05/19/2013
Be more careful NOT posting spoilers, please, next time.
Thanks, man...
Be more careful NOT posting spoilers, please, next time.
Thanks, man...
1:27PM on 05/19/2013

disappointing... BOX OFFICE !!

$84M for a major 4 days WE...
'big' numbers, yes, but disappointing for this flick... Almost everyone (me included) thought it would end north of the $100M milestone... Was the hype too high ?
Despite a few complaints, it IS a great time to spend in theatres (in IMAX if you can)!
Be careful...
I'm hope he didn't mean to, but StrandDread, down below, gives BIG SPOILER in his post (big careful next time, please)...
$84M for a major 4 days WE...
'big' numbers, yes, but disappointing for this flick... Almost everyone (me included) thought it would end north of the $100M milestone... Was the hype too high ?
Despite a few complaints, it IS a great time to spend in theatres (in IMAX if you can)!
Be careful...
I'm hope he didn't mean to, but StrandDread, down below, gives BIG SPOILER in his post (big careful next time, please)...
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1:20AM on 05/20/2013
Are you the spoiler police? Lighten up. We have been asked to discuss the movie here, so it's more of an enter at your own risk kind of thing.

More importantly, it IS a terrible time in theaters, and an amazing waste of time. I hope it drops 70-75% of it's clearly deluded/ high audience next week.
Are you the spoiler police? Lighten up. We have been asked to discuss the movie here, so it's more of an enter at your own risk kind of thing.

More importantly, it IS a terrible time in theaters, and an amazing waste of time. I hope it drops 70-75% of it's clearly deluded/ high audience next week.
2:32PM on 05/19/2013
If this section is for simply saying "I liked it" or "I didn't like it", then a simple poll would suffice.
If this section is for simply saying "I liked it" or "I didn't like it", then a simple poll would suffice.
1:39PM on 05/19/2013

disappointing... BOX OFFICE !!

Sorry
Double post...
Sorry
Double post...
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6:50PM on 05/19/2013
Fantastic! One of the best Hollywood blockbusters I've seen in a long time.
Fantastic! One of the best Hollywood blockbusters I've seen in a long time.
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10:12PM on 05/19/2013

tiniest of spoilers in my comment below

Thanks to John Harrison's blood, there is now a Tribble out there with superior strength and a supreme intellect. Think of all the possibilities.
Thanks to John Harrison's blood, there is now a Tribble out there with superior strength and a supreme intellect. Think of all the possibilities.
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10:52PM on 05/19/2013
I liked the warp chase scene
I liked the warp chase scene
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1:51AM on 05/20/2013

Fanboys Confuse And Confound Me

After a lot (definitely not all, maybe not even a majority) of fanboys got their knickers all in a twist over 'Iron Man 3' and it's use of a villain that's barely a blip on the mainstream pop culture radar, how in the fuck are those same people okay with the insulting use of one of the most well known movie bad guys of all time? So well known that very little to no prior knowledge of his source is necessary for people to understand allusions to him. The bad guy being Khan adds nothing to the
After a lot (definitely not all, maybe not even a majority) of fanboys got their knickers all in a twist over 'Iron Man 3' and it's use of a villain that's barely a blip on the mainstream pop culture radar, how in the fuck are those same people okay with the insulting use of one of the most well known movie bad guys of all time? So well known that very little to no prior knowledge of his source is necessary for people to understand allusions to him. The bad guy being Khan adds nothing to the story, and therefore is quite insulting to hardcore Star Trek fans (of which I am not; seen all the movies, and some episodes here and there, but nothing substantial), insulting to film fans as it's lazy insipid storytelling, and yet you are all okay with that? It pains me!

Aside from the stupidity of the bad guy, the movie just keeps assaulting you with action sequence after action sequence, some of them are clevelry staged/ exciting, but after awhile, you just become numb to it; this is especially true during the 9000 ending climaxes. A serious case of 'Return Of The King'-itis is what this movie suffers from.

Last large complaint- by using so much of 'Wrath Of Khan', the filmmakers effectively destroy the entire purpose of having the reboot in an alternate universe, by failing to something new or original. It's disgusting and pointless.

However, before you all think I am just here to ruin the party, there are some good things. The acting from the entire cast, especially Cumberbatch and Quinto was excellent. Alice Eve was a fun new edition to the crew, and it's always awesome to see Peter Weller.

About half of the action scenes are a lot of fun (the other half suffer from either bad editing or numbness), and the score was top notch. 5/10. Seriously fanboys, I don't get you.
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10:23AM on 05/20/2013
hey hey hey hey hey, [link] Stop it!
hey hey hey hey hey, [link] Stop it!
10:00AM on 05/20/2013

Hey filmguy... (Spoilers)

Couldn't agree more.

1 - Bones, Sulu, and Chekhov's roles were greatly reduced, especially Bones who was relegated to being the butt of every joke or quip. I was really disappointed by this as one of the great relationships in the original films and series was the trio of Kirk, Spock and Bone interacting, much as old friends would. I really don't like that Uhura has now stepped into the third wheel role. Saldana's a great Uhura, but it's a shame she's put more at the forefront than
Couldn't agree more.

1 - Bones, Sulu, and Chekhov's roles were greatly reduced, especially Bones who was relegated to being the butt of every joke or quip. I was really disappointed by this as one of the great relationships in the original films and series was the trio of Kirk, Spock and Bone interacting, much as old friends would. I really don't like that Uhura has now stepped into the third wheel role. Saldana's a great Uhura, but it's a shame she's put more at the forefront than Bones.

2 - By using Khan as the villain and then in the final ten minutes of the film just freezing him again without taking the villains' arc to its own conclusion, you're exposing a lack of creativity in your writing. In The Dark Knight, Joker wasn't killed because the dichotomy of Batman and Joker's relationship is based on the insanity of the limitations they both live by (Batman will not kill Joker, Joker will never stop trying to break the Bat). At the end of TDK, there was a logical end to Joker's arc, in a sense, or at least Batman's relationship to him. You get the sense that Joker lost the battle, but the war is still raging on for Gotham. Here in STID, Spock uses his Vulcan strength to beat up Khan a little bit, only to freeze him with his people and hide him away ala Raiders of the Lost Ark. Cumberbatch was phenomenal in the role, but by simply shelving Khan without providing a good foil for Kirk or Spock, it feels like wasted time.

3 - What was the point of resetting the timeline if we're simply going to rehash the Khan storyline in the first place, having it play out in a very similar fashion to how it did in The Wrath of Khan? Khan isn't an incredible villain in the first place, he just represented a real and dangerous threat to the crew. He is quite easily beaten in the original film when the final moments of the climax begin to happen. Why couldn't we have Cumberbatch be one of Khan's underlings and somehow kill him in the end? Wouldn't it be interesting if (and I know this would take some very different writing) Khan, in order to save the 72 members of his crew, demonstrates his ability to put himself first for the needs of the many and go into the warp reactor, sacrificing himself and showing Kirk what it takes to be a real captain? I mean, they hinted at that being Kirk's arc, but it never really came to fruition, and it would also make the villain much more relatable, since you would understand, and maybe even sympathize with, his motivations. He even has that line where he says "Wouldn't you do anything for your family?". This just felt like an ignored element.

4 - The Spock Prime scene was atrocious. He says that he can't meddle with the timeline, then completely goes back on his word in the span of 30 seconds. This comes across as cheesy and something the writers no doubt felt they had to put in there for new Spock to understand the stakes. There has to be a better way to do that, possibly killing/injuring Uhura or taking her hostage in some capacity. Someone else on the boards mentioned an issue with transporting the 72 pods to the Vengeance and why Khan doesn't just transport everyone on the Enterprise into space, thereby solving his problem. I've gotta say, that would be the smartest course of action.

5 - I'm all for a great action scene, but when the Enterprise is falling out of the sky, it made no sense why gravity went nuts and made it so that Kirk and Scotty had to run around the ship borderline parkour style. Again, ok action scene but highly illogical given that the ship always has working gravity wherever they go.

6 - Did anyone else get annoyed that all the interesting beats and even some of the action scenes had been directly lifted from the first flick? Khan and Kirk flying through space was EXACTLY the same as the drilling freefall in the first one. The suits were similar, and Kirk even makes mention of this fact. Also, the ending scene where Kirk walks out onto the bridge is the EXACT SAME BLOCKING AND SIMILAR DIALOGUE to the first films' final scene. I don't see this as symmetry, I see it as sloppy writing, all of a sudden resting on their laurels for no reason. Again, the freshness and originality of what they did in the first film is once again squandered by doing the same old thing.

7 - In Wrath of Khan, Spock's death is an incredibly emotional moment in the film. You don't expect it and when it happens, Spock is dead. That film ends with him being gone and that is that. By having Kirk "die" then be revived less than 10 minutes later, it carries no emotional weight. And Spock screaming "KHAN" was awful. That was a moment that the original film makes work because of the time it was made, but here it's a horrible piece of fan service, and one that simpletons no doubt have taken as a great reference to the original. I'm not buying it, it's sloppy and contrived. Imagine, if you will, if in one of the upcoming Star Wars films, one of the leads gets frozen in carbonite, but then escapes 10 minutes later before the film ends. It robs the act of its power by doing that and, to me, shows that the writers don't have the confidence or balls to stick to what they're doing.

8 - By the end of the film I don't believe Kirk's arc is clear. Is he supposed to become a better captain? Is he supposed to have made Spock use emotions? His recklessness in the first one complements the situational nature of that film really well, because he's essentially improvising as he goes. In this film, he's second fiddle to Spock for a lot of the last third of the film, and even plays as Khan's sidekick for a time. I just don't think he was handled very well here.
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11:15AM on 05/20/2013
I had a great time watching this. Loved how they flipped around the original "Wrath of Khan". As for all these purists and fanboys who cry "sacrilege!" about this movie they can simply go and watch the original series then. They act like somehow the original "Wrath of Khan" is ruined forever when it's on Amazon streaming I believe for like $1.99. Get over yourselves.
I had a great time watching this. Loved how they flipped around the original "Wrath of Khan". As for all these purists and fanboys who cry "sacrilege!" about this movie they can simply go and watch the original series then. They act like somehow the original "Wrath of Khan" is ruined forever when it's on Amazon streaming I believe for like $1.99. Get over yourselves.
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11:47AM on 05/20/2013

Loved it!

One of the most exciting and most intense action packed summer blockbusters in recent years. Might also be the best Star Trek to date. Great film! ****
One of the most exciting and most intense action packed summer blockbusters in recent years. Might also be the best Star Trek to date. Great film! ****
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4:16AM on 05/22/2013

A little late to the party, but...

I loved it. Almost everything was perfect, aside from a few minor things that I won't even bother writing about. Benedict Cumberbatch was a total badass and the best villain of the summer thus far. Great to see Peter Weller on the big screen again. The Klingon scene was epic. Every character got at least one great moment, and I loved seeing Kirk be a totally selfless hero. I love this take on the classic Enterprise crew and hope J.J. has at least one more left in him, even after Star Wars.
I loved it. Almost everything was perfect, aside from a few minor things that I won't even bother writing about. Benedict Cumberbatch was a total badass and the best villain of the summer thus far. Great to see Peter Weller on the big screen again. The Klingon scene was epic. Every character got at least one great moment, and I loved seeing Kirk be a totally selfless hero. I love this take on the classic Enterprise crew and hope J.J. has at least one more left in him, even after Star Wars.
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