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What does Amy Pascal's exit mean for Sony's Spider-Man plans?

02.06.2015

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It took longer than many expected, but yesterday it was announced Amy Pascal has stepped down from her co-chairman position at Sony. Several embarrassing e-mails from Pascal were leaked during last year's cyber attack on the studio, and although she apologized for them, she has decided to resign her post at Sony.

Variety has a very interesting piece on the future of several of Sony's movie franchises and planned films, including Spider-Man, although Pascal will still receive a producer credit on any future Spidey flicks. The leaked e-mails from the hacking scandal revealed there were talks of Spider-Man appearing in Marvel Studio's CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, and in the site's report (which seems to be based on speculation and insider knowledge), they claim Sony may take another look at those possible plans.

The biggest decision for Lynton and Pascal’s successor will be how to handle the Spider-Man franchise. “The Amazing Spider-Man 2″ did respectable business last summer but was hardly the $1 billion blockbuster that Pascal had told folks that she needed it to be.

Spider-Man remains a cash cow, but the plans for expanding the Spidey universe through villain spinoffs and the next installment may be re-examined — since Pascal played the leading role pursuing that path. A new regime may take a stronger look at returning to the negotiation table with Marvel Studios over Spidey’s rights.

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As for other franchises, Variety had this to say about future 21 JUMP STREET, GHOSTBUSTERS and MEN IN BLACK movies.

“Ghostbusters” and “21 Jump Street” seem safe, but the “Men in Black” series may either be reconsidered or completely abandoned, especially following the much-derided leaked email that suggested creating a spinoff that would combine the “Jump Street” movies with “Men in Black.” Additionally, “Men in Black 3″ was so costly and so panned by critics that the new regime may take a pass on this series altogether.

The site goes on to say they doubt there's going to be a SALT 2 or a sequel to David Fincher's THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO, and they also believe there's a good chance Sony's CLEOPATRA project will end up moving to a different studio.

What do you think Sony should do with Spider-Man, and what are your thoughts on Variety's report on the status of the studio?

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6:36AM on 02/07/2015
Could we rearrange that headline to read "Spider-Man Exits Sony's Plans'?
Could we rearrange that headline to read "Spider-Man Exits Sony's Plans'?
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1:36AM on 02/07/2015
What Sony did to the Spider-Man is just sad & they became desperate in the end because it just became about money. They started out so strong with 2 great films & then fucked it up with the last 3. They should literally just give the rights to Disney.

As for the rest of the tidbits in the article, I am down for another Jump Street movie & I was really surprised how good MIB3 was, especially that ending. I could care less about Ghostbusters at this point. If the studio becomes too
What Sony did to the Spider-Man is just sad & they became desperate in the end because it just became about money. They started out so strong with 2 great films & then fucked it up with the last 3. They should literally just give the rights to Disney.

As for the rest of the tidbits in the article, I am down for another Jump Street movie & I was really surprised how good MIB3 was, especially that ending. I could care less about Ghostbusters at this point. If the studio becomes too dependable on the franchises they have already, then might as well throw in the towel when it comes to movies.
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1:29AM on 02/07/2015
The very first X-Men movie was about registration. For that matter, superhero registration was a theme in the last season of Smallville. Itís not an idea that Marvel has exclusive rights to. What Sony could do is set Amazing Spider Man 3 a few years after Amazing Spider Man 2 and have a world populated by heroes and villains and the government assembles a team to hunt down Spider Man and anybody else who refuses to register.
The very first X-Men movie was about registration. For that matter, superhero registration was a theme in the last season of Smallville. Itís not an idea that Marvel has exclusive rights to. What Sony could do is set Amazing Spider Man 3 a few years after Amazing Spider Man 2 and have a world populated by heroes and villains and the government assembles a team to hunt down Spider Man and anybody else who refuses to register.
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7:20PM on 02/06/2015

Fact checking

Men in Black 3 was not derided by critics. The second film was. The third received a notable uptick in critical reviews with many critics even saying it was the best of the three (including Roger Ebert). I thought the ending was so emotionally poignant that it redeemed some of the film's weaker points. To say it was derided by critics is ridiculous.
Men in Black 3 was not derided by critics. The second film was. The third received a notable uptick in critical reviews with many critics even saying it was the best of the three (including Roger Ebert). I thought the ending was so emotionally poignant that it redeemed some of the film's weaker points. To say it was derided by critics is ridiculous.
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1:35AM on 02/07/2015
Everyone EXPECTED Men In Black 3 to be bad. It turned out fine.
Everyone EXPECTED Men In Black 3 to be bad. It turned out fine.
3:47PM on 02/06/2015
It's clear Sony doesn't know what to do with Spider-Man; they obviously had big plans for the character but they got so wrapped up in the franchise that they forgot to make a good movie.

I think Sony should sit down with Disney and Marvel and figure out a way to get Spider-Man into the MCU. I believe he has a fairly large role in the Civil War storyline, so having him in there would be a good deal for everyone involved.
It's clear Sony doesn't know what to do with Spider-Man; they obviously had big plans for the character but they got so wrapped up in the franchise that they forgot to make a good movie.

I think Sony should sit down with Disney and Marvel and figure out a way to get Spider-Man into the MCU. I believe he has a fairly large role in the Civil War storyline, so having him in there would be a good deal for everyone involved.
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1:44PM on 02/06/2015
Sell Spider-Man to Marvel. Make a TV series out of MIB. Make another Jump Street if need be and cancel Ghostbusters completely. Make a new animated show grounded in the canon and look of the actual movies if you must continue it.

Job done.
Sell Spider-Man to Marvel. Make a TV series out of MIB. Make another Jump Street if need be and cancel Ghostbusters completely. Make a new animated show grounded in the canon and look of the actual movies if you must continue it.

Job done.
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1:07PM on 02/06/2015
I'm a fan of the MCU, but I still think raimi's first 2 Spider-Man movies are better than any of the MCU films. I don't see a lot to be gained by having Spider-Man join the MCU. The avengers films already have a lot of characters to juggle. I don't think people want another reboot, and no one seems to excited about amazing Spider-Man 3. At this point I'm indifferent to it all.
I'm a fan of the MCU, but I still think raimi's first 2 Spider-Man movies are better than any of the MCU films. I don't see a lot to be gained by having Spider-Man join the MCU. The avengers films already have a lot of characters to juggle. I don't think people want another reboot, and no one seems to excited about amazing Spider-Man 3. At this point I'm indifferent to it all.
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4:09PM on 02/06/2015
Spidey is a main character in civil war, and I think they want him for that and the 3rd avengers when all the originals are supposedly out. I'm sure they'll make solo movies, but I don't think Sony is selling the rights back. They just want a % in an avengers movie with spidey. Who wouldn't?
Spidey is a main character in civil war, and I think they want him for that and the 3rd avengers when all the originals are supposedly out. I'm sure they'll make solo movies, but I don't think Sony is selling the rights back. They just want a % in an avengers movie with spidey. Who wouldn't?
4:32PM on 02/06/2015
When was the last time you watched the first Spider-Man? That movie was actually pretty bad at times, especially with the campy dialogue and over-the-top performance from Willem Dafoe. Marvel has made many films that surpass the first Spider-Man. The second is great, but the original had some notable flaws.
When was the last time you watched the first Spider-Man? That movie was actually pretty bad at times, especially with the campy dialogue and over-the-top performance from Willem Dafoe. Marvel has made many films that surpass the first Spider-Man. The second is great, but the original had some notable flaws.
7:26PM on 02/06/2015
@bealzf. I'm pretty sure all the avengers will be back for the 3rd film, plus some of those getting added in phase 3. It would be cool if spider-man was in civil war since he's a big part, but that film is a little over a year away and if a deal doesn't happen soon I doubt he'd be in it.

@BrokenDreamer. Spider-man still holds up great to me. Dafoe is a more memorable villain than any in the MCU except Loki. Elfman's score is still better than most comic book film scores. It could also be
@bealzf. I'm pretty sure all the avengers will be back for the 3rd film, plus some of those getting added in phase 3. It would be cool if spider-man was in civil war since he's a big part, but that film is a little over a year away and if a deal doesn't happen soon I doubt he'd be in it.

@BrokenDreamer. Spider-man still holds up great to me. Dafoe is a more memorable villain than any in the MCU except Loki. Elfman's score is still better than most comic book film scores. It could also be that Spider-man is just a little more appealing to me than the MCU characters, but I still love it.
12:55PM on 02/06/2015

Not saying I liked it, but...

Men in Black III wasn't panned by critics. Its actually certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
Men in Black III wasn't panned by critics. Its actually certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
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2:44PM on 02/06/2015
It's not Certified Fresh. I just checked.
It's not Certified Fresh. I just checked.
4:33PM on 02/06/2015
It's not certified fresh, but in what definition is 70% fresh considered "panned"?
It's not certified fresh, but in what definition is 70% fresh considered "panned"?
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12:35PM on 02/06/2015
I just want to see the MCU version of spider man more than anything. We all know they'd knock it out of the park. No one knows how to do these movies and characters better than marvel.
I just want to see the MCU version of spider man more than anything. We all know they'd knock it out of the park. No one knows how to do these movies and characters better than marvel.
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1:24PM on 02/06/2015
Yep. Let's keep our fingers firmly crossed.
Yep. Let's keep our fingers firmly crossed.
12:25PM on 02/06/2015
Most of her ideas in the last quarter of 2014 were so bad. Combining 21 Jump Street with MIB is maybe the most ridiculous of them all. But passing on bringing Spiderman to the MCU while still holding onto the rights, is just plain idiotic and so short-term thinking for an executive at that level.

Hopefully under new direction Sony can re-open a deal with Marvel to include Spiderman in the MCU. And hopefully they can MIB altogether. If there is a plan on more Jump Street movies, hopefully
Most of her ideas in the last quarter of 2014 were so bad. Combining 21 Jump Street with MIB is maybe the most ridiculous of them all. But passing on bringing Spiderman to the MCU while still holding onto the rights, is just plain idiotic and so short-term thinking for an executive at that level.

Hopefully under new direction Sony can re-open a deal with Marvel to include Spiderman in the MCU. And hopefully they can MIB altogether. If there is a plan on more Jump Street movies, hopefully they just keep it in the buddy cop/comedy arena.
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12:03PM on 02/06/2015

She was POISON to the company

Amy Pascal was a dumb bitch who knew nothing of what moviegoers and fans of these beloved series wanted. She just knew how to run numbers and get teenage girls in the theater seats. It was her idea to turn Spiderman into a romantic comedy with pointless villains that were all shoehorned in.

She was just an idiot. I am glad she stepped down, I was hoping she would be fired and blacklisted.
Amy Pascal was a dumb bitch who knew nothing of what moviegoers and fans of these beloved series wanted. She just knew how to run numbers and get teenage girls in the theater seats. It was her idea to turn Spiderman into a romantic comedy with pointless villains that were all shoehorned in.

She was just an idiot. I am glad she stepped down, I was hoping she would be fired and blacklisted.
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12:34PM on 02/06/2015
I'm sure she was forced to step down from everything thats been happening as of late. She had horrible direction for Sony.
I'm sure she was forced to step down from everything thats been happening as of late. She had horrible direction for Sony.
11:46AM on 02/06/2015

MIB 3

Wasn't panned by critics. What a horribly researched article. And who derided a MIB/Jump Street mash-up? That sounds awesome.
Wasn't panned by critics. What a horribly researched article. And who derided a MIB/Jump Street mash-up? That sounds awesome.
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11:08AM on 02/06/2015
Not another reboot! Not another origin story! Give us a good sequel; give Spidey a real challenge like Kraven or Morbius or even Kingpin.
Not another reboot! Not another origin story! Give us a good sequel; give Spidey a real challenge like Kraven or Morbius or even Kingpin.
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11:11AM on 02/06/2015
Yeah I have to agree re. origin. Twice is enough. We all know who he is. Let's just get straight into the (coherent and well written) action.
Yeah I have to agree re. origin. Twice is enough. We all know who he is. Let's just get straight into the (coherent and well written) action.
11:15AM on 02/06/2015
No Kingpin unless they work out a deal unfortunately
No Kingpin unless they work out a deal unfortunately
11:29AM on 02/06/2015
I know that Kingpin as an enemy is wishful thinking . Maybe we gonna see these two get it on mano-a-spider web, in 5-10 years.
[.....]For now waiting on Matt to take on Fisk :D
I know that Kingpin as an enemy is wishful thinking . Maybe we gonna see these two get it on mano-a-spider web, in 5-10 years.
[.....]For now waiting on Matt to take on Fisk :D
11:36AM on 02/06/2015
Hell yeah!
Hell yeah!
11:04AM on 02/06/2015

I enjoyed...

I enjoyed "Men In Black 3" way more than "Guardians of the Galaxy", that's not to say I want an MIM4 as they should go out while ahead...
I enjoyed "Men In Black 3" way more than "Guardians of the Galaxy", that's not to say I want an MIM4 as they should go out while ahead...
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12:04PM on 02/06/2015
...WHAT??!

Hitman2020, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
...WHAT??!

Hitman2020, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
12:32PM on 02/06/2015
@Masterdebator88... Man am I glad I phoned that guy

@Hitman2020.... What I looked like reading your comment [link]
@Masterdebator88... Man am I glad I phoned that guy

@Hitman2020.... What I looked like reading your comment [link]
3:35PM on 02/06/2015
Hey what can I say? I'm a Marvel fan since 1972 but just didn't feel love for Guardians. I liked all the other ones up to this, especially Avengers and Winter Soldier...
Hey what can I say? I'm a Marvel fan since 1972 but just didn't feel love for Guardians. I liked all the other ones up to this, especially Avengers and Winter Soldier...
10:57AM on 02/06/2015
Still the same song for me. Spider-man in MCU please. He shares a universe with the other Marvel characters except for in the movies. MCU is home. Plus the character would bring a fresh new dynamic. It's not like there is another character in the MCU that is already filling his shoes.
Still the same song for me. Spider-man in MCU please. He shares a universe with the other Marvel characters except for in the movies. MCU is home. Plus the character would bring a fresh new dynamic. It's not like there is another character in the MCU that is already filling his shoes.
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12:06PM on 02/06/2015
The emails that leaked pointed A LOT of fingers at Pascals for not wanting the give Spiderman (loan Spider-man) to the Marvel Universe.

She was like 70% in charge of the franchise and is to be blamed for its downfall. Hopefully they get a guy in the who knows Spider-man, doesn't just crunch numbers and cares about what the fans want.
The emails that leaked pointed A LOT of fingers at Pascals for not wanting the give Spiderman (loan Spider-man) to the Marvel Universe.

She was like 70% in charge of the franchise and is to be blamed for its downfall. Hopefully they get a guy in the who knows Spider-man, doesn't just crunch numbers and cares about what the fans want.
12:28PM on 02/06/2015
Most money men will be greedy and not want to share but I must say I thought her 'cold dead hands' remark was particularly provoking to those who wanted to see Spider-Man done differently (and or join the MCU). My imagination conjured up a picture of a wicked witch preventing my childhood hero from coming out to play. Lol! Booooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Most money men will be greedy and not want to share but I must say I thought her 'cold dead hands' remark was particularly provoking to those who wanted to see Spider-Man done differently (and or join the MCU). My imagination conjured up a picture of a wicked witch preventing my childhood hero from coming out to play. Lol! Booooooooooooo!!!!!!!
10:46AM on 02/06/2015
For starter, Sony can start off by casting new Peter Parker/Spider-Man who doesn't twitch all the time. Preferably, I would love to see the rights of Spider-Man back to Marvel. Spider-Man seems to be the only superhero that's been rebooted so often in the last decade.
For starter, Sony can start off by casting new Peter Parker/Spider-Man who doesn't twitch all the time. Preferably, I would love to see the rights of Spider-Man back to Marvel. Spider-Man seems to be the only superhero that's been rebooted so often in the last decade.
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10:50AM on 02/06/2015
Anton Yelchin would be my top pick for a new Spider Man. Or if they're going for the older route, then perhaps Joseph Gordon Levitt.
Anton Yelchin would be my top pick for a new Spider Man. Or if they're going for the older route, then perhaps Joseph Gordon Levitt.
10:58AM on 02/06/2015
Looks like at this point they want to reboot Spider-Man again. Sigh.
Looks like at this point they want to reboot Spider-Man again. Sigh.
10:43AM on 02/06/2015
Just try to make a compromise and have Spider Man appear in Civil War. If it does end up happening, I just hope they decide to recast the role. I don't want any part of those two terrible films included in the MCU.
Just try to make a compromise and have Spider Man appear in Civil War. If it does end up happening, I just hope they decide to recast the role. I don't want any part of those two terrible films included in the MCU.
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