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03.30.2009

The highly anticipated WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE trailer hit the internet last week to universal acclaim. Bloggers, fans, and everyone in between reported thrilling reactions across the board, repeated viewings and even tears. High praise for what essentially boils down to an advertisement, but as far as I'm concerned it was all justified. That trailer helped catapult Spike Jonze's take on Maurice Sendak's classic children's book to the top of my must-see list for 2009, and ditto for many of my colleagues. But in an alarming development, the folks at Goldenfiddle have noticed some striking similarities in the WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE trailer and the trailer for WATCHMEN. For Jonze's sake, let's hope his film meets a better fate than that of Snyder's, which JUST crossed the $100 million mark this weekend. Ouch.

Extra Tidbit: Do you consider WATCHMEN a flop?
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11:44PM on 03/31/2009
Fishbowl:

If you check IMDB PRO, or Warner Bros. production website, you'll notice that your numbers are wrong. IMDB PRO and WBB have much more updated numbers for the Watchmen's gross. The 103.5 million (U.S. gross) that you state was the gross as of Sunday. The gross as of Wednesday is 109.5 million. And the worldwide gross as of today (not as of Sunday) is 185.5 million. The numbers that connect43, Rogue, and myself listed are correct.

However you are right about the budget being
Fishbowl:

If you check IMDB PRO, or Warner Bros. production website, you'll notice that your numbers are wrong. IMDB PRO and WBB have much more updated numbers for the Watchmen's gross. The 103.5 million (U.S. gross) that you state was the gross as of Sunday. The gross as of Wednesday is 109.5 million. And the worldwide gross as of today (not as of Sunday) is 185.5 million. The numbers that connect43, Rogue, and myself listed are correct.

However you are right about the budget being higher than 150 million. I just looked it up again, and the budget was 220 million after marketing. The movie has honestly only been out for a month and its already made 190 million worldwide. According to WB's website it still has a few more countries that it hasn't been released in yet. The movie will surpass its overall budget (including marketing).
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11:26PM on 03/31/2009

where do you get your numbers?


The budget as reported is 150 million and that DOES NOT include marketing. not by a long shot. the marketing on the film would add about another 100 million for 250 total...

as far as the gross so far, it's at 103.5 as of today (looking to top out below 110) domestic and the worldwide is 170, not 189. these numbers are from boxofficemojo, which is pretty reliable. the movie will top out around 200 which is far from what it needs to be in profit (especially after the money paid to the

The budget as reported is 150 million and that DOES NOT include marketing. not by a long shot. the marketing on the film would add about another 100 million for 250 total...

as far as the gross so far, it's at 103.5 as of today (looking to top out below 110) domestic and the worldwide is 170, not 189. these numbers are from boxofficemojo, which is pretty reliable. the movie will top out around 200 which is far from what it needs to be in profit (especially after the money paid to the exhibitors and the percentage Fox gets).

i don't know what WB was expecting, but i'm sure they were hoping for AT LEAST "300" numbers which was made for half as much and grossed more than twice what "Watchmen" will.

so that's how this movie could be considered a flop.
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1:10PM on 03/31/2009
The Watchmen has made 190 million dollars to date (worldwide), and the movie has only been out for a month. I'd say that this movie is a success...not a flop.
The Watchmen has made 190 million dollars to date (worldwide), and the movie has only been out for a month. I'd say that this movie is a success...not a flop.
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2:05AM on 03/31/2009
I enjoyed Watchmen.. I gave it a 7/10. It was a nice break from the usual shitty movies we get in March, or the shitty sequels we get in July.

But yeah, it is a flop. They were expecting big numbers from this movie and it really was only seen by fans of the graphic novel and people who are interested. Clearly they didn't go back for more. But whatever, I'm glad it was made..

I just fear that this movie making similiar money to Beverly Hills Chihuhua will be the nail in the coffin of
I enjoyed Watchmen.. I gave it a 7/10. It was a nice break from the usual shitty movies we get in March, or the shitty sequels we get in July.

But yeah, it is a flop. They were expecting big numbers from this movie and it really was only seen by fans of the graphic novel and people who are interested. Clearly they didn't go back for more. But whatever, I'm glad it was made..

I just fear that this movie making similiar money to Beverly Hills Chihuhua will be the nail in the coffin of originality in Hollywood.
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10:38PM on 03/30/2009

who cares?

As far as the trailer goes, who cares? When you look at it, all trailers are the same thing. They're a form of media that's trying you to get interested in seeing a certain film.

As for Watchmen being a flop, yes and no. Yes to the point where for the type of movie it was being promoted as (action/superhero) it should of made way more money. However, due to the run time of the film and the limited amount of showings it can do in a day, not to mention it was rated "R" (would of liked to see
As far as the trailer goes, who cares? When you look at it, all trailers are the same thing. They're a form of media that's trying you to get interested in seeing a certain film.

As for Watchmen being a flop, yes and no. Yes to the point where for the type of movie it was being promoted as (action/superhero) it should of made way more money. However, due to the run time of the film and the limited amount of showings it can do in a day, not to mention it was rated "R" (would of liked to see how a PG-13 rated watchmen would have done, would of probably made about 200 mill) those factors probably severely hurt it's cash flow.

So is it a flop? In the terms of revenue, probably, but in the terms of film making, no way.
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10:10PM on 03/30/2009
Oh yeah i totally see it. good catch. now please do those other two trailers that look the same, you know the ones..... Dawn of the Dead and The Notebook.

Fuck off goldenfiddle and lets do move on past this bullshit.
Oh yeah i totally see it. good catch. now please do those other two trailers that look the same, you know the ones..... Dawn of the Dead and The Notebook.

Fuck off goldenfiddle and lets do move on past this bullshit.
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10:05PM on 03/30/2009

it wasn't a flop

in the vein of 300, sin city, etc it was right up there. it was entertaining, visually stunning, had a really hot chick, and an interesting story.
while it was no Dark Knight, it was a really cool movie
in the vein of 300, sin city, etc it was right up there. it was entertaining, visually stunning, had a really hot chick, and an interesting story.
while it was no Dark Knight, it was a really cool movie
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9:40PM on 03/30/2009
JediteX, I don't get it either. People tried the same crap with my beloved Superman Returns. Nearly $122 million profit and some people call it a failure. I wish I could make something that would fail like that.
JediteX, I don't get it either. People tried the same crap with my beloved Superman Returns. Nearly $122 million profit and some people call it a failure. I wish I could make something that would fail like that.
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6:44PM on 03/30/2009
Watchman has made 110 million dollars in the U.S. as of today. It's also made 189 million worldwide (as of today). How is a movie that has a budget of 150 million (including marketing) considered a flop when it'll probably end up finishing with around 250 million dollars worldwide?
Watchman has made 110 million dollars in the U.S. as of today. It's also made 189 million worldwide (as of today). How is a movie that has a budget of 150 million (including marketing) considered a flop when it'll probably end up finishing with around 250 million dollars worldwide?
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6:28PM on 03/30/2009

Motion Comic

I had read the "Watchmen" graphic novel numerous times over the years, but not before watching the movie. After buying the motion comic DVD, I see the problem with the live action film: the filmmakers drained all the joy of seeing the story unfold. Manhattan's origin was really glossed over, & Rorschach comes off like a bargain basement vigilante & his detective work is hardly believable.

Until the director's cut, the Motion Comic will stand as the best adaptation of this great work.
I had read the "Watchmen" graphic novel numerous times over the years, but not before watching the movie. After buying the motion comic DVD, I see the problem with the live action film: the filmmakers drained all the joy of seeing the story unfold. Manhattan's origin was really glossed over, & Rorschach comes off like a bargain basement vigilante & his detective work is hardly believable.

Until the director's cut, the Motion Comic will stand as the best adaptation of this great work.
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6:05PM on 03/30/2009

Who cares if Watchmen is considered a flop

It was made for the fans, who received it warmly as a whole, it came out, did exactly what everyone expected (strong first week, heavy fall off), and has just about covered its costs. It was a big budget adult film, and did as could be expected.

It was never, EVER going to make Spider-Man money as its audience was crippled by its rating.
It was made for the fans, who received it warmly as a whole, it came out, did exactly what everyone expected (strong first week, heavy fall off), and has just about covered its costs. It was a big budget adult film, and did as could be expected.

It was never, EVER going to make Spider-Man money as its audience was crippled by its rating.
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6:04PM on 03/30/2009

It was an Attempt....i didnt say it was a good attempt

As excited as i was to see The Watchmen, it was just an attempt, Snyder made it a action movie with little to no script, where the graphic novel itself was more written word with action, than the other way around. I dont know if it was a flop, but i was definetely expecting more....
As excited as i was to see The Watchmen, it was just an attempt, Snyder made it a action movie with little to no script, where the graphic novel itself was more written word with action, than the other way around. I dont know if it was a flop, but i was definetely expecting more....
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5:29PM on 03/30/2009

Looks like we all agree - what a joke

I was the first to comment, and it's pretty clear most agree, this news is the biggest load of shit.

In no way do I blame Barna but rather the blame goes to those dumbfucks over at Goldenfiddle, which I visited to understand the context of the comparison.

If they thought their comparison was humourous, the only joke out of all this is how shitty a website they're running and their pitiful lack of sense of humour.

'Nuff said, let's move on.
I was the first to comment, and it's pretty clear most agree, this news is the biggest load of shit.

In no way do I blame Barna but rather the blame goes to those dumbfucks over at Goldenfiddle, which I visited to understand the context of the comparison.

If they thought their comparison was humourous, the only joke out of all this is how shitty a website they're running and their pitiful lack of sense of humour.

'Nuff said, let's move on.
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5:21PM on 03/30/2009

Watchmen isn't a masterpiece, sorry

It didn't connected with the audience outside those who worshipped the graphic novel. It could had been faithful and yet connect with people outside the geekdom, but it didn't. The movie had so-so/decent acting, solid visuals, but at the end it let many moviegoers (like myself) with the taste that we had just watched a silly exercise of a director with too much money on his hands, too much things to say and not enough skills to pull it off. It won't become a classic, no way.
It didn't connected with the audience outside those who worshipped the graphic novel. It could had been faithful and yet connect with people outside the geekdom, but it didn't. The movie had so-so/decent acting, solid visuals, but at the end it let many moviegoers (like myself) with the taste that we had just watched a silly exercise of a director with too much money on his hands, too much things to say and not enough skills to pull it off. It won't become a classic, no way.
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4:39PM on 03/30/2009

What Kind Of Maddness Do We Live In...

...when a movie grossing over 100 million clams in less than a
month is considered a disappointment?

'Watchmen' is a cinematic achievement that will be bestowed 'masterpiece' status in the next 10 years.
...when a movie grossing over 100 million clams in less than a
month is considered a disappointment?

'Watchmen' is a cinematic achievement that will be bestowed 'masterpiece' status in the next 10 years.
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3:46PM on 03/30/2009

bogus...

those previews barely match up. things like this have been popping recently, where people make comparisons to two things that on the most faintest of points resemble each other, but for the vast majority, they do not.

yes, they are both made by arner and legendary, and reference their adaptations. but the comedian getting thrown through the glass doesnt happen right away, AND, the image of the wild thing twirling another, which is supposed to reference the comedian being thrown, happens
those previews barely match up. things like this have been popping recently, where people make comparisons to two things that on the most faintest of points resemble each other, but for the vast majority, they do not.

yes, they are both made by arner and legendary, and reference their adaptations. but the comedian getting thrown through the glass doesnt happen right away, AND, the image of the wild thing twirling another, which is supposed to reference the comedian being thrown, happens waaaayyyy late in the WTWTA trailer...so, congrats, you found two instances of things being thrown in the trailers...way to go.

and yes, they reference their director...like 90% of all movie trailers.

and yes, it shows the release date...like 100% of all movie trailers.

you could literally do this for any movie trailer, and find simularities. i call bullshit.

and no, the watchmen did not flop, when you consider the circumstances (cult following not really gigantic, like twilight or potter, no true stars, long running time, hard 'R' rating). 'R' rated films rarely cross the $100mill threshold, and it will make bank on DVD and Bluray.
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1:47PM on 03/30/2009
Look, Watchmen -- I don't think that there was anybody who had any illusions that an nihilistic R-rated superhero film was going to do gangbusters at the box office. The point is, it was a decent film -- better than decent, I thought, and that's what matters -- it'll make back enough money to justify the making of it.
Look, Watchmen -- I don't think that there was anybody who had any illusions that an nihilistic R-rated superhero film was going to do gangbusters at the box office. The point is, it was a decent film -- better than decent, I thought, and that's what matters -- it'll make back enough money to justify the making of it.
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1:29PM on 03/30/2009

NO!!!!!

Watchmen will make a ton of money on DVD and therefore it will be profitable. It's not like they needed great success for a sequel.
Watchmen will make a ton of money on DVD and therefore it will be profitable. It's not like they needed great success for a sequel.
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11:50AM on 03/30/2009

Who Cares?

Why does anybody care what Watchmen did at the box office? Does it color your enjoyment of a movie if it didn't do well at the box office? I really hope not because that's not what being a fan of film is about. It's about the quality of the work and that's it. MOVE ON!
Why does anybody care what Watchmen did at the box office? Does it color your enjoyment of a movie if it didn't do well at the box office? I really hope not because that's not what being a fan of film is about. It's about the quality of the work and that's it. MOVE ON!
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10:59AM on 03/30/2009

Watchmen is a FLOP overseas

It did decent domestic (bad if compared with it's huge budget), but is a flop overseas. It will barely pass 70 million at this point and that is LOW for a movie promoted like crazy since last year all around the world.
It did decent domestic (bad if compared with it's huge budget), but is a flop overseas. It will barely pass 70 million at this point and that is LOW for a movie promoted like crazy since last year all around the world.
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10:56AM on 03/30/2009
Sorry MickleyMclaren, but Watchmen did fail.

In foreign markets, it's made 60 million. That's 40 million less than it made domestically. At a combined total of 160 million internationally, it's JUST made back its 150 million dollar production budget.

Studios don't focus too much on international markets anyway, due to much of the revenue not being a direct profit to the studio.

Sorry MickleyMclaren, but Watchmen did fail.

In foreign markets, it's made 60 million. That's 40 million less than it made domestically. At a combined total of 160 million internationally, it's JUST made back its 150 million dollar production budget.

Studios don't focus too much on international markets anyway, due to much of the revenue not being a direct profit to the studio.

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10:31AM on 03/30/2009

?????

WATCHMEN WAS NOT A FAILURE, it has already grossed huge amounts of money internationally.
WATCHMEN WAS NOT A FAILURE, it has already grossed huge amounts of money internationally.
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10:13AM on 03/30/2009
I'll go see WTWTA when someone drags my nearly lifeless corpse into the theater and props me up "Clockwork Orange" style and forces me at gunpoint to watch it.

Just sayin'...
I'll go see WTWTA when someone drags my nearly lifeless corpse into the theater and props me up "Clockwork Orange" style and forces me at gunpoint to watch it.

Just sayin'...
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10:03AM on 03/30/2009
I appreciated the sarcasm here, even if certain other people were too ignorant to see it. And although Watchmen didn't do well financially, as an avid fan of the graphic novel, I thought it was a phenomenal film. I expected it would come up short in the box office. It just wasn't a film meant for the masses. But when it comes time for the DVD, I guarantee that its profits will skyrocket!
I appreciated the sarcasm here, even if certain other people were too ignorant to see it. And although Watchmen didn't do well financially, as an avid fan of the graphic novel, I thought it was a phenomenal film. I expected it would come up short in the box office. It just wasn't a film meant for the masses. But when it comes time for the DVD, I guarantee that its profits will skyrocket!
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9:09AM on 03/30/2009
I really don't get what the big deal is about this film? (WTWTA) I mean seriously....I really don't get it. Maybe because, to be honest, I find Spike Jonze's films rather bloated and ridiculously overrated. Being John Malkovich was pretty boring. Sure JM was great...but he always is. Sure it was inventive...but so the fuck what? It doesn't make it great. Eraserhead has more rewatch value than any Jonze film. Maybe this will be the first one I like but as of now...I don't really care either way
I really don't get what the big deal is about this film? (WTWTA) I mean seriously....I really don't get it. Maybe because, to be honest, I find Spike Jonze's films rather bloated and ridiculously overrated. Being John Malkovich was pretty boring. Sure JM was great...but he always is. Sure it was inventive...but so the fuck what? It doesn't make it great. Eraserhead has more rewatch value than any Jonze film. Maybe this will be the first one I like but as of now...I don't really care either way if I see it or not.

As for Watchmen, I loved it! Do I think it was a flop? Nope. It was never going to make the kind of money other comics adaptions do. It's not that type of book. It'll make a ton on DVD & Blu Ray. I think it has done exactly what it would have done.
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8:37AM on 03/30/2009
Although I'm generally unimpressed with Barna as a writer or whatever he believes he is...give the guy a break, this wasn't that retarded, and he does have a job to do.

The jury is still out on wild things. Some of us actually like to watch movies before we shower them with praise.

BTW- Speed Racer was a flop.

And while I think the Watchmen movie was an excellent adaptation of the original work, I would call it more of a dissapointment box office wise.
Although I'm generally unimpressed with Barna as a writer or whatever he believes he is...give the guy a break, this wasn't that retarded, and he does have a job to do.

The jury is still out on wild things. Some of us actually like to watch movies before we shower them with praise.

BTW- Speed Racer was a flop.

And while I think the Watchmen movie was an excellent adaptation of the original work, I would call it more of a dissapointment box office wise.
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7:04AM on 03/30/2009
Cute.

To those of you spilling hatred on this post, please recognize a joke when it's presented. Go to GoldenFiddle, and see for yourself that this is their level of humor.

Sigh.
Cute.

To those of you spilling hatred on this post, please recognize a joke when it's presented. Go to GoldenFiddle, and see for yourself that this is their level of humor.

Sigh.
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6:27AM on 03/30/2009
I really like the Poster for "Where the Wild things are" but the Trailer didn't work for me. I don't like the music @ all. It's a children's book. And the music makes it look like it's for adults.
I really like the Poster for "Where the Wild things are" but the Trailer didn't work for me. I don't like the music @ all. It's a children's book. And the music makes it look like it's for adults.
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4:28AM on 03/30/2009

uhhhh

it must just be that time of the month for pooisfuntoeat...

although the article is kind of stupid..in a funny and half serious way
it must just be that time of the month for pooisfuntoeat...

although the article is kind of stupid..in a funny and half serious way
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3:42AM on 03/30/2009

WetOREO

This is REALLY far fetched. I'm sure the pacing of that Watchmen trailer was used in pleny of ads before, considering it's usually the same people who make those ads for the companies.
And yeah, if Watchmen does not make back it's cost by the time it leaves theaters, sadly it is a bomb.
This is REALLY far fetched. I'm sure the pacing of that Watchmen trailer was used in pleny of ads before, considering it's usually the same people who make those ads for the companies.
And yeah, if Watchmen does not make back it's cost by the time it leaves theaters, sadly it is a bomb.
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2:24AM on 03/30/2009
Granted, Those 2 trailers are 2 of the best trailers I've seen crafted in these past years...

But comparing them solely for the production cards and 1 frame? That's just really damn stupid and petty. Of course they're similar they're made by the same production companies, studios and both are book adaptions. That's it.

And as for the tidbit question. As a Film, It was fantastic. I think it lived up to the book, as well as it could at least as a feature film. Financially, it's a pretty
Granted, Those 2 trailers are 2 of the best trailers I've seen crafted in these past years...

But comparing them solely for the production cards and 1 frame? That's just really damn stupid and petty. Of course they're similar they're made by the same production companies, studios and both are book adaptions. That's it.

And as for the tidbit question. As a Film, It was fantastic. I think it lived up to the book, as well as it could at least as a feature film. Financially, it's a pretty much a near flop.
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2:16AM on 03/30/2009

how is Watchmen not a FLOP?

How can Watchmen NOT be considered a flop? The movie cost AT LEAST 150 million (plus at least another 100 for marketing) and it's going to top out at 110 domestic? Even if it reaches 200 worldwide that's still be about half of what it needs to make any profit (with print and distribution costs).

It is a risky project and a daring film, but that doesn't discount it from being a commercial failure. People did not respond to the film. The movie made HALF of it's total gross in the opening
How can Watchmen NOT be considered a flop? The movie cost AT LEAST 150 million (plus at least another 100 for marketing) and it's going to top out at 110 domestic? Even if it reaches 200 worldwide that's still be about half of what it needs to make any profit (with print and distribution costs).

It is a risky project and a daring film, but that doesn't discount it from being a commercial failure. People did not respond to the film. The movie made HALF of it's total gross in the opening weekend. That means people didn't like it. No movie that opened over 50 million has underperformed to that extent. You can't use the argument that it was a critical success either. The overall response was mixed (a 56 on metacritic and a 64 on rotten tomatoes - 43 with the top critics).

Quality aside and just looking at the numbers, this movie was more than a disappointment, it was a flop.

It was a big risk by Snyder and Warner but it did not pay off.
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2:05AM on 03/30/2009

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Please tell me this is a joke...
Please tell me this is a joke...
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1:51AM on 03/30/2009
The 'Where the Wild Things Are" trailer is great. It looks like the film will carry a lot of emotion and depth. Much better than what Mike Myers and friends could do for the beloved Cat in the Hat.
The 'Where the Wild Things Are" trailer is great. It looks like the film will carry a lot of emotion and depth. Much better than what Mike Myers and friends could do for the beloved Cat in the Hat.
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1:46AM on 03/30/2009

hahaha

I like this post. Bring on Where the Wild Things Are!
I like this post. Bring on Where the Wild Things Are!
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1:43AM on 03/30/2009

Not a flop

One of the most dense and alienating graphic novels of all time was, considered by many, very successfully adapted to film, and it will make nearly 200 mil worldwide. This is no flop. It may not have lived up to the box office expectations but that's no fault of the film.
One of the most dense and alienating graphic novels of all time was, considered by many, very successfully adapted to film, and it will make nearly 200 mil worldwide. This is no flop. It may not have lived up to the box office expectations but that's no fault of the film.
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1:22AM on 03/30/2009

Guys...

It's a joke. Calm down.
It's a joke. Calm down.
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1:06AM on 03/30/2009

I agree with everyone how dumb this is..

What's going on with this site?? This is the dumbest post ever....
What's going on with this site?? This is the dumbest post ever....
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12:51AM on 03/30/2009
i dont consider it a flop at all. considering it was just a graphic novel and most people were not really aware of it as most would know spider man or batman.
i dont consider it a flop at all. considering it was just a graphic novel and most people were not really aware of it as most would know spider man or batman.
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12:35AM on 03/30/2009
This is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever read. Striking similarities? Oh my! They have the same studio logos, someone being thrown, and similarly worded text! They must be the same!

This is just a lame excuse to have another Watchmen related article and yes, I do view it as a flop and a failure as an adaptation, specifically in terms of storytelling. Where the Wild Things Are undoubtedly will be a million times better.
This is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever read. Striking similarities? Oh my! They have the same studio logos, someone being thrown, and similarly worded text! They must be the same!

This is just a lame excuse to have another Watchmen related article and yes, I do view it as a flop and a failure as an adaptation, specifically in terms of storytelling. Where the Wild Things Are undoubtedly will be a million times better.
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12:31AM on 03/30/2009
If it didn't surpass the 100 million mark I would of said yeah. I liked it but the word of mouth from the average movie goer killed it. Probably from the now infamous blue dong and run time. The Dark Knight has set the bar too high now i'm afraid.
If it didn't surpass the 100 million mark I would of said yeah. I liked it but the word of mouth from the average movie goer killed it. Probably from the now infamous blue dong and run time. The Dark Knight has set the bar too high now i'm afraid.
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12:28AM on 03/30/2009

Big deal

Come on, no offense to the guys at Goldenfiddle, but they actually wasted their time with this? Oooooh, both films are from the same studio/use a "from the director of" tagline/have titles that begin with the letter W/have their trailers end with release dates. SPOOKY INDEED!

Anyway, I'll probably take flak for this, but I don't understand the hype for the new trailer at all.

And given the fact that Watchmen's budget and marketing are almost twice of its international gross so far, I
Come on, no offense to the guys at Goldenfiddle, but they actually wasted their time with this? Oooooh, both films are from the same studio/use a "from the director of" tagline/have titles that begin with the letter W/have their trailers end with release dates. SPOOKY INDEED!

Anyway, I'll probably take flak for this, but I don't understand the hype for the new trailer at all.

And given the fact that Watchmen's budget and marketing are almost twice of its international gross so far, I would definitely consider it a BO disappointment. Maybe not a flop though.
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