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Why Zack Snyder wouldn't cast Grant Gustin as The Flash

03.21.2016

When it became official that The Flash would be leading his own feature film, as well as appearing in other DC Cinematic Universe films, many were hoping that Grant Gustin from The Flash series on The CW would be called upon to step up to the big-screen. However, once Ezra Miller was cast as The Flash it became clear that unlike Marvel, DC would be keeping its television and feature film universes separate. While speaking with the NY Daily News, BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE director Zack Snyder commented that using Grant Gustin was never under consideration, which wasn't due to lack of faith in Gustin's ability, but more so due to the big differences in tone between the television series and the films.

I just don’t think it was a good fit. I’m very strict with this universe and I just don’t see a version where…that [tone is] not our world…Even if Grant Gustin is my favorite guy in the world and he’s very good, we made a commitment to the multi-verse [idea], so it’s just not a thing that’s possible.

I'm sure there are those of you who would have loved to have seen Grant Gustin whip around Central City on the big-screen as well as rub shoulders with Batman (Ben Affleck), Superman (Henry Cavill), and Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot), but keeping the small-screen adventures of Barry Allen separate from the events of the big-screen universe is definitely a good thing in my view. There's no need to tip-toe around the events of upcoming films or to avoid mentioning/showing certain characters because you can't afford to have Ben Affleck pop up for a guest appearance. It all leads to more opportunities for both universes to keep what makes them unique and to continue telling good stories. Zack Snyder's BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE will hit theaters on March 25, 2016, while the big-screen incarnation of THE FLASH is set for a March 16, 2018 release.

What do you folks think? Would you preferred to have seen Grant Gustin as The Flash on the big-screen? Tonal inconsistencies be damned.

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4:12AM on 04/12/2016

Gustin as the Flash

I wish Gustin was going to be the Flash for the movies. He has done a great job on the TV series. The tone issue the article uses as the reason not to select him COULD be addressed in the filming. It is a weak excuse not to have him. Because of the great job he has done on TV - and got good ratings - he should be the Flash in the movies - he has earned it.
I wish Gustin was going to be the Flash for the movies. He has done a great job on the TV series. The tone issue the article uses as the reason not to select him COULD be addressed in the filming. It is a weak excuse not to have him. Because of the great job he has done on TV - and got good ratings - he should be the Flash in the movies - he has earned it.
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2:52PM on 03/22/2016
Gustin as the Flash is a boss and instantly makes any tv or movie better.
Gustin as the Flash is a boss and instantly makes any tv or movie better.
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2:45PM on 03/22/2016

Snyder sucks

I'm glad Gustin isn't playing Flash on the big screen. I don't want Snyder messing with a DC property that's actually good.
I'm glad Gustin isn't playing Flash on the big screen. I don't want Snyder messing with a DC property that's actually good.
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12:32PM on 03/22/2016
DC isn't going to copy Marvel. That being said, how will they do a Flash movie after the movie version of the Flash gets shot by Brainiac?
DC isn't going to copy Marvel. That being said, how will they do a Flash movie after the movie version of the Flash gets shot by Brainiac?
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2:58PM on 03/22/2016
Easy. Have them do a (pun unintended) flash-back movie leading up to the events of BvS as a character establishing film or better yet (The DC way) have some other 'guy' take up the mantle of the Flash, think Robin/Night Wing, Green Lantern's Hal Jordan & Jon Stewart, etc.
Easy. Have them do a (pun unintended) flash-back movie leading up to the events of BvS as a character establishing film or better yet (The DC way) have some other 'guy' take up the mantle of the Flash, think Robin/Night Wing, Green Lantern's Hal Jordan & Jon Stewart, etc.
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9:45AM on 03/22/2016

That's fine by me

Don't forget when Superman Returns was released, Smallvile was also running on TV and people were complaining that Tom Welling wouldn't be in the film. Well, the tone of the film was totally different to the TV series and it just wouldn't work like that. Same deal.
Don't forget when Superman Returns was released, Smallvile was also running on TV and people were complaining that Tom Welling wouldn't be in the film. Well, the tone of the film was totally different to the TV series and it just wouldn't work like that. Same deal.
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9:29AM on 03/22/2016
Seems like The Flash is quite a long way down the list of DC movies that most people are interested in seeing, a lot of which has to be to do with the casting choice. I mean, people seem more interested in Aquaman because you've got a cool lead.
Personally I'm glad they're not mixing their tv and cinematic universes, because their small screen output is a little half-baked at times, though The Flash is probably the best of the bunch. Honestly struggling to make it through episodes of Legends
Seems like The Flash is quite a long way down the list of DC movies that most people are interested in seeing, a lot of which has to be to do with the casting choice. I mean, people seem more interested in Aquaman because you've got a cool lead.
Personally I'm glad they're not mixing their tv and cinematic universes, because their small screen output is a little half-baked at times, though The Flash is probably the best of the bunch. Honestly struggling to make it through episodes of Legends Of Tomorrow.
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6:53AM on 03/22/2016
I like that DC has kept decided to keep movies and TV separate. It's doing okay for Marvel right now to keep everything integrated but I'm glad DC isn't replicating everything Marvel is doing. It gives them a chance to develop the movies they want and create different versions of characters. Plus some of those people may be better suited for TV, I thought the guy from Arrow was good as Ra's al Ghul but I couldn't see him give a presence that would make a great cinematic villain. Grant is really
I like that DC has kept decided to keep movies and TV separate. It's doing okay for Marvel right now to keep everything integrated but I'm glad DC isn't replicating everything Marvel is doing. It gives them a chance to develop the movies they want and create different versions of characters. Plus some of those people may be better suited for TV, I thought the guy from Arrow was good as Ra's al Ghul but I couldn't see him give a presence that would make a great cinematic villain. Grant is really good as Barry Allen and really out of all of them on DC TV I think he is the one most likely to make it in movies but I like that DC movies and TV are staying separate, as they always have. This gives other people chances of exploring the character and different themes and storylines to explore.
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4:26AM on 03/22/2016

GOOOOOOD!!!!

Listen to you guys. You guys are whining like a bunch of babies. Look Grant is amazing but having a shared universe with the TV show causes an unimaginable amount of problems for the Movies of the DCEU. By sharing Grant Gustin, then you have to by default include Supergirl, Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow to the DCEU...which means that the DCEU can't create its own Ras Al Ghul, or Deathstroke or many many others. It ties the hands of the filmmakers by giving them a list of do's and don'ts because
Listen to you guys. You guys are whining like a bunch of babies. Look Grant is amazing but having a shared universe with the TV show causes an unimaginable amount of problems for the Movies of the DCEU. By sharing Grant Gustin, then you have to by default include Supergirl, Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow to the DCEU...which means that the DCEU can't create its own Ras Al Ghul, or Deathstroke or many many others. It ties the hands of the filmmakers by giving them a list of do's and don'ts because the TV shows may or may not have done something. We are already seeing Agents of Shield fall apart and create so much inconsistency within the MCU because of the inhumans and much much more. Them SEPERATING the DCEU from the TVDCEU is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!

Yes Grant is great...but combining it is not the right decision. And I already know where some of your comments are gonna go. OH BLA BLA BLA MULTIVERSE BLA BLA BLA We Can have the same actor but from a different Universe BLA BLA BLA.
Look DC is trying to establish its movie franchise. By doing what you guys WANT Them to do...will alienate General audiences, confuse them and crash and burn the DCEU before its had a chance to take off.
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9:55AM on 03/22/2016
Agree one hundred percent. If they were to crossover, DC would be digging themselves in a hole and would be tied down to Arrow, Flash, etc. on a weekly basis.

Plus, I don't see Gustin having the screen presence to carry his own Flash film within this new DCU.
Agree one hundred percent. If they were to crossover, DC would be digging themselves in a hole and would be tied down to Arrow, Flash, etc. on a weekly basis.

Plus, I don't see Gustin having the screen presence to carry his own Flash film within this new DCU.
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2:07AM on 03/22/2016

Maybe we wouldn't despise the idea so much.....

If you hadn't cast Ezra Freaking Miller in the role. The guy is just slightly less masculine than Margot Robbie. He's an adequate actor, but completely unfit physically for the part, and you already had a guy who was perfect at it. At this point I honestly don't know if I could spend the money to watch it in the theaters....unless the reviews are ridiculously off the charts great.
If you hadn't cast Ezra Freaking Miller in the role. The guy is just slightly less masculine than Margot Robbie. He's an adequate actor, but completely unfit physically for the part, and you already had a guy who was perfect at it. At this point I honestly don't know if I could spend the money to watch it in the theaters....unless the reviews are ridiculously off the charts great.
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9:04AM on 03/22/2016
People thought Matt Damon wouldn't be a viable action star in the first Bourne movie and yet he proved very much up to the challenge, getting more and more physical as the series progressed. People were afraid of Daniel Craig being a pussy when he was cast as Bond. There's been a steady stream of actors that have not been known for action who have shown that they are more than willing to be up to the task and have been able to pull off some awesome stuff. It worked because they were dedicated
People thought Matt Damon wouldn't be a viable action star in the first Bourne movie and yet he proved very much up to the challenge, getting more and more physical as the series progressed. People were afraid of Daniel Craig being a pussy when he was cast as Bond. There's been a steady stream of actors that have not been known for action who have shown that they are more than willing to be up to the task and have been able to pull off some awesome stuff. It worked because they were dedicated to the movie and the characters. Ezra Miller spending months working out, working on fight training, and dedicating himself to the role is what I care about more than someone already coming in physically ready. How many truly good movies has Dwayne Johnson done? I like the guys but honestly most of his movies have been nothing more than him playing a variation of himself.
1:09AM on 03/22/2016

As a fan...

I would have preferred for the TV series be an extension of the movies... isn't that what Marvel has done at least with Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter, which have had occasional cameos/characters and certain plot points related to the movies, but obviously you don't NEED to watch the shows in order to understand the movies or vice-versa... it gives the fans that can't get enough of the movies a little dose of that universe every week... having various universes is an idea I dislike.
I would have preferred for the TV series be an extension of the movies... isn't that what Marvel has done at least with Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter, which have had occasional cameos/characters and certain plot points related to the movies, but obviously you don't NEED to watch the shows in order to understand the movies or vice-versa... it gives the fans that can't get enough of the movies a little dose of that universe every week... having various universes is an idea I dislike.
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12:51AM on 03/22/2016
Separate universes between TV and movies is nothing new so yeah, i kind of expected this and no surprises here.
Separate universes between TV and movies is nothing new so yeah, i kind of expected this and no surprises here.
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12:15AM on 03/22/2016

Heres an IDEA.......

they could have cast him and had no link to the show what so ever, 2 different universes. He is just another Flash in another universe. The TV Flash, and the MoS Flash have no idea each exist.
they could have cast him and had no link to the show what so ever, 2 different universes. He is just another Flash in another universe. The TV Flash, and the MoS Flash have no idea each exist.
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12:07AM on 03/22/2016
Marvel news: "oh that is a perfect choice. They nailed it! It's an inspiration!"

DC news: "They need to pull their heads out of their assess. This is going to suck! Worst choice EVER!"
Marvel news: "oh that is a perfect choice. They nailed it! It's an inspiration!"

DC news: "They need to pull their heads out of their assess. This is going to suck! Worst choice EVER!"
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11:55PM on 03/21/2016

Let me get this straight...

So the tone doesn't fit, but you hired Lorde and Miller (as much as i love them) to do the Flash movie? Smells like BS.
So the tone doesn't fit, but you hired Lorde and Miller (as much as i love them) to do the Flash movie? Smells like BS.
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11:50PM on 03/21/2016
I would rather have Amell make the transistion to the DCU with Green Arrow than Gustin with the Flash.
I would rather have Amell make the transistion to the DCU with Green Arrow than Gustin with the Flash.
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9:15AM on 03/22/2016
Don't get me wrong I like Amell as Green Arrow/Oliver Queen on Arrow. I just don't see him doing well in a movie. I hate to sound snobbish because there have been plenty of great actors to make that TV to movie (and vice versa) with fantastic results. Grant really is the only one out of them so far on TV (Kaity Lotz shows potential though) that I could see becoming a movie star, so far he has done excellent work as Barry. I really like him as Barry but I like the DC has put their foot down and
Don't get me wrong I like Amell as Green Arrow/Oliver Queen on Arrow. I just don't see him doing well in a movie. I hate to sound snobbish because there have been plenty of great actors to make that TV to movie (and vice versa) with fantastic results. Grant really is the only one out of them so far on TV (Kaity Lotz shows potential though) that I could see becoming a movie star, so far he has done excellent work as Barry. I really like him as Barry but I like the DC has put their foot down and said no TV-movie crossovers. In all sincerity it's way too much to keep up with. I don't watch all the Marvel shows. I like that their not adhering to the Marvel way, their doing their own thing. If they adhered to the TV Universe than they would have to keep with a lot of other continuity. That's just a lot of work.
9:53AM on 03/22/2016
I agree that DC should keep their film universe and television universe separate. The tone of the show and tongue in cheek humor doesn't fit this new DCU at all and would only bring it down by being tied down to Arrow, Flash, and Legends.
I agree that DC should keep their film universe and television universe separate. The tone of the show and tongue in cheek humor doesn't fit this new DCU at all and would only bring it down by being tied down to Arrow, Flash, and Legends.
11:43PM on 03/21/2016
I can understand not wanting to bring the TV version into the movies since it can be confusing to those who don't watch the show, but why bother adding the Flash to the movies at all in that case? Then they can act like the movies and shows exist in the same universe by adding some name dropping or small cameos like Marvel does with Daredevil and Agents of Shield. Seems like those who watch the show like it, so why bother with a movie? Just because Flash is traditionally part of Justice League?
I can understand not wanting to bring the TV version into the movies since it can be confusing to those who don't watch the show, but why bother adding the Flash to the movies at all in that case? Then they can act like the movies and shows exist in the same universe by adding some name dropping or small cameos like Marvel does with Daredevil and Agents of Shield. Seems like those who watch the show like it, so why bother with a movie? Just because Flash is traditionally part of Justice League?
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11:23PM on 03/21/2016
I think Grant Gustin embodies the classic Flash - a sincere man who becomes heroic because of and in spite of his acquired speed abilities. I don't recall Flash in the comics being overly brooding or dark, but he could be deadly serious if required, and Grant Gustin plays that character perfectly. He will be to me what Christopher Reeve is to Superman, and I'll always judge all others by his excellent performance.
I think Grant Gustin embodies the classic Flash - a sincere man who becomes heroic because of and in spite of his acquired speed abilities. I don't recall Flash in the comics being overly brooding or dark, but he could be deadly serious if required, and Grant Gustin plays that character perfectly. He will be to me what Christopher Reeve is to Superman, and I'll always judge all others by his excellent performance.
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10:50PM on 03/21/2016
I'm going to have to agree with those below and also call bullshit on having to tiptoe around the show just because they cast the same actor. its not like Gustin comes with a script pinned to his jacket. though its slightly different, Marvel didn't have an issue with Ryan Reynolds playing two VERY different DPs. And neither did any of the moviegoers apparently.
I'm going to have to agree with those below and also call bullshit on having to tiptoe around the show just because they cast the same actor. its not like Gustin comes with a script pinned to his jacket. though its slightly different, Marvel didn't have an issue with Ryan Reynolds playing two VERY different DPs. And neither did any of the moviegoers apparently.
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10:50PM on 03/21/2016
"We need a Flash who's miserable and brooding. That'll fit our tone. Get me the kid from the killing spree movie!" I kid, I kid. But Ezra Miller... not sure about him. I love being proved wrong, though.
"We need a Flash who's miserable and brooding. That'll fit our tone. Get me the kid from the killing spree movie!" I kid, I kid. But Ezra Miller... not sure about him. I love being proved wrong, though.
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10:40PM on 03/21/2016
Alright, I get the point he wants a more serious approach to The Flash rather than cute and colorful world of CW's The Flash but I still don't like the idea of Ezra Miller as The Flash.
Alright, I get the point he wants a more serious approach to The Flash rather than cute and colorful world of CW's The Flash but I still don't like the idea of Ezra Miller as The Flash.
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10:38PM on 03/21/2016

oh ok so Zack Schyder isn't flexible at all on casting?

this was the EXACT same bullshit that DC encountered with NOT casting Tom Welling as Clark Kent (Superman) they wont even consider a TV actor for the role of their own superhero because well the bullshit line is that its not a good fit.... really?
the excuse is that they are NOT flexible to see any sort of merger between the TV show universes (Smallville, Gotham, Flash, Arrow and Supergirl) and the movie universes and so the TV actors will never get to play their parts on the big screen...
this was the EXACT same bullshit that DC encountered with NOT casting Tom Welling as Clark Kent (Superman) they wont even consider a TV actor for the role of their own superhero because well the bullshit line is that its not a good fit.... really?
the excuse is that they are NOT flexible to see any sort of merger between the TV show universes (Smallville, Gotham, Flash, Arrow and Supergirl) and the movie universes and so the TV actors will never get to play their parts on the big screen...
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10:32PM on 03/21/2016
That's fine. I get it. I don't like it, but I do get it. What I DON'T get, is casting who they did.
That's fine. I get it. I don't like it, but I do get it. What I DON'T get, is casting who they did.
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