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Will the Fast and the Furious franchise dump the cars to become a series of heist films?

Apr. 26, 2011by: George Merchan

Is this a good idea or a bad one? According to Deadline, Universal is apparently ready to change the formula behind one of its most successful franchises, essentially, as a supposed preemptive move to appeal to a broader audience (i.e. make more money). Basically, they want to move away from the car culture element that makes The Fast and the Furious the Fast and the Furious, and make the following sequels more akin to straight-up heist films.

Here's Universal chairman Adam Fogelson speaking to Deadline:

"The question putting Fast Five and Fast Six together for us was: Can we take it out of being a pure car culture movie and into being a true action franchise in the spirit of those great heist films made 10 or 15 years ago?"

"We've heard so many people say, 'I've never seen one, and I've never wanted to see one,' about the Fast franchise. So if these movies were still about street racing, there was probably a ceiling on how many people would buy tickets. We wanted to see if we could raise it out of about racing and make car driving ability just a part of the movie, like those great chases in The French Connection, The Bourne Identity, The Italian Job."


So rather than appeal to a niche demographic, Universal wants to remove the one element unique to these films - which are absolutely already heist films - and make them more... generic? Name-dropping something like THE FRENCH CONNECTION is some dangerous shit, particularly coming from a suit.

What do you guys think? From what I've been hearing, FAST FIVE delivers and is probably bound to make a lot of dough this weekend. For better or worse, this is one of THE defining franchises of this generation. So why fix a formula that isn't broken?
Extra Tidbit: These films are pure trash cinema, but I unabashedly enjoy them nevertheless.
Source: Deadline

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1:37AM on 04/27/2011

Worst franchise ever! EVER!

All of those movies sucked but that has to be the dumbest idea ever lol good luck with that!
All of those movies sucked but that has to be the dumbest idea ever lol good luck with that!
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1:36AM on 04/27/2011
I'm gonna see Fast Five and wait. After 4, I thought this series ran out of steam, but reviews seem to be putting it in a strangely good spot. 81% on RT already? That would make this the most successful film of the series critically, and by far. Essentially, these have always been heist films with a focus on racing, now they would be heist films with a focus on....the heist? Sure, it could work. That's what this new one looks to be. Anyway, not sure how much further this series can go, but
I'm gonna see Fast Five and wait. After 4, I thought this series ran out of steam, but reviews seem to be putting it in a strangely good spot. 81% on RT already? That would make this the most successful film of the series critically, and by far. Essentially, these have always been heist films with a focus on racing, now they would be heist films with a focus on....the heist? Sure, it could work. That's what this new one looks to be. Anyway, not sure how much further this series can go, but hopefully F5 is fun.
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11:04PM on 04/26/2011
I understand. I think it's a good idea, or at least worth a try. The series is already at a fifth film, with a 6th on the way; I really don't see why not.
I understand. I think it's a good idea, or at least worth a try. The series is already at a fifth film, with a 6th on the way; I really don't see why not.
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6:18PM on 04/26/2011
Why bother changing anything? The movies already double their budgets, so what's the point? The studio seemingly took a risk just by calling the movie Fast Five, but every time I see a trailer on TV for it, the announcer always says "The Fast and Furious Five" over the title card, so clearly they're still afraid of people not recognizing the franchise.

This doesn't really seem like a move a studio confident in their series would make: changing the entire formula of the films.
Why bother changing anything? The movies already double their budgets, so what's the point? The studio seemingly took a risk just by calling the movie Fast Five, but every time I see a trailer on TV for it, the announcer always says "The Fast and Furious Five" over the title card, so clearly they're still afraid of people not recognizing the franchise.

This doesn't really seem like a move a studio confident in their series would make: changing the entire formula of the films.
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5:43PM on 04/26/2011
"I've never seen one, and I've never wanted to see one"... that's me! and unless Stallone, Arnold or Bruce Willis appear in one I WILL NEVER SEE ONE lol
"I've never seen one, and I've never wanted to see one"... that's me! and unless Stallone, Arnold or Bruce Willis appear in one I WILL NEVER SEE ONE lol
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5:06PM on 04/26/2011
I wouldnt mind it as the fourth one wasnt really about racing anyways. Fast Five looks awesome and i cant wait for thursday night. As for 6, lets just keep the good times rolling heist or not.
I wouldnt mind it as the fourth one wasnt really about racing anyways. Fast Five looks awesome and i cant wait for thursday night. As for 6, lets just keep the good times rolling heist or not.
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4:02PM on 04/26/2011

Cool

Honestly I was turned off from these movies because of the whole street racing thing...the new one looks like ad fun and I'd be all for it changing to a heist series.
Honestly I was turned off from these movies because of the whole street racing thing...the new one looks like ad fun and I'd be all for it changing to a heist series.
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3:54PM on 04/26/2011
Having seen Fast five it is a Heist film and all the better for it,I had the most fun in a Cinema for a long time.
Having seen Fast five it is a Heist film and all the better for it,I had the most fun in a Cinema for a long time.
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2:42PM on 04/26/2011
Never cared about the Fast franchise and still won't even if it became a heist franchise. Taking away the car culture would alienate the millions of rednecks who love these movies. A heist film would confuse them.
Never cared about the Fast franchise and still won't even if it became a heist franchise. Taking away the car culture would alienate the millions of rednecks who love these movies. A heist film would confuse them.
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1:25PM on 04/26/2011

I like my car chases and brainless fun

I don't care much about the storyline; I rarely roll my eyes at the OUTRAGEOUS stupidity of it all. I think it's a fine balance of "just cheesy enough", but totally awesome in the stunts and action realm! Don't need more than that.

I will F5 tomorrow, perhaps. If I'm not too tired. I can't wait! It's been out a week here in Korea and I still haven't gone.
I don't care much about the storyline; I rarely roll my eyes at the OUTRAGEOUS stupidity of it all. I think it's a fine balance of "just cheesy enough", but totally awesome in the stunts and action realm! Don't need more than that.

I will F5 tomorrow, perhaps. If I'm not too tired. I can't wait! It's been out a week here in Korea and I still haven't gone.
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12:44PM on 04/26/2011
I think the one thing that they are overlooking is the cast. I think a part of its appeal besides the cars (which I think should still be a big part of the movie) is that by now we're kind of invested in seeing what happens to these guys. True, plot wise, these films aren't deep, but I have to admit, they are fun to watch and I do kinda want to see these guys ride off into the sunset having escaped the law yet again. But knowing hollywood suits they will fuck it up royally, never fails...
I think the one thing that they are overlooking is the cast. I think a part of its appeal besides the cars (which I think should still be a big part of the movie) is that by now we're kind of invested in seeing what happens to these guys. True, plot wise, these films aren't deep, but I have to admit, they are fun to watch and I do kinda want to see these guys ride off into the sunset having escaped the law yet again. But knowing hollywood suits they will fuck it up royally, never fails...
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11:49AM on 04/26/2011
Yes, they are dumb, and the first is nothing more than a "Point Break" remake, but damn, they are fun as hell (I am hoping the 5th is as well), and par tof it makes them a guilty pleasure for me is the ridiculous amount of love put into the cars and the racing scenes.
Yes, they are dumb, and the first is nothing more than a "Point Break" remake, but damn, they are fun as hell (I am hoping the 5th is as well), and par tof it makes them a guilty pleasure for me is the ridiculous amount of love put into the cars and the racing scenes.
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11:12AM on 04/26/2011
FnF without a racing? that's a really a abd idea, the reason i watch this movie is the car and then the action
FnF without a racing? that's a really a abd idea, the reason i watch this movie is the car and then the action
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11:07AM on 04/26/2011
That's like saying your going to make KFC into an Olive Garden. Dumbasses, instead of being grabby for more money, stick with the fans of F&F, at least that way your sure you've got a franchise that has a built in base
That's like saying your going to make KFC into an Olive Garden. Dumbasses, instead of being grabby for more money, stick with the fans of F&F, at least that way your sure you've got a franchise that has a built in base
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10:26AM on 04/26/2011
Fast Five had hardly any mention of street racing at all and it was just as good, if not better than the first film.
Fast Five had hardly any mention of street racing at all and it was just as good, if not better than the first film.
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9:20AM on 04/26/2011
First of all, they didnt say get rid of the cars like all the comments imply, they said get rid of the street racing culture. Second, its working because Fast Five is really the only one I've been REALLY excited to see.
First of all, they didnt say get rid of the cars like all the comments imply, they said get rid of the street racing culture. Second, its working because Fast Five is really the only one I've been REALLY excited to see.
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9:18AM on 04/26/2011
My question is when do they reach the point where they make a sequel that takes place after Drift? Wait too long and you get that Star Wars effect where the tech of the past is more advanced than the tech in the present
My question is when do they reach the point where they make a sequel that takes place after Drift? Wait too long and you get that Star Wars effect where the tech of the past is more advanced than the tech in the present
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8:26AM on 04/26/2011
I don't think you can take away cars from "The Fast and The Furious" series. Cars, in a way, are part of this series. This series can still work as a heist flick with number of cars to choose from as getaway vehicles.
I don't think you can take away cars from "The Fast and The Furious" series. Cars, in a way, are part of this series. This series can still work as a heist flick with number of cars to choose from as getaway vehicles.
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8:25AM on 04/26/2011
Car movies with no cars? As if the franchise could get any worse.
Car movies with no cars? As if the franchise could get any worse.
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8:06AM on 04/26/2011

Cars gone?

I was 18 with a tuned eclipse gsx when the first F&F came out,I have a very special place in my heart for these films. The cars need to have some part of the story line but it doesn't need to be defined by tuner cars. Fun movies none the less.
I was 18 with a tuned eclipse gsx when the first F&F came out,I have a very special place in my heart for these films. The cars need to have some part of the story line but it doesn't need to be defined by tuner cars. Fun movies none the less.
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8:05AM on 04/26/2011
Not good these films have that edge with the street racing and even if they changed the format of the movies they would still have to be called fast and furious and would a new audience be prepared to watch a series 6/7 films in, dont think so so this is a bull shit move they have still a big audience for these movies and they should eb happy that people still wanna see the newest movie they release.
Not good these films have that edge with the street racing and even if they changed the format of the movies they would still have to be called fast and furious and would a new audience be prepared to watch a series 6/7 films in, dont think so so this is a bull shit move they have still a big audience for these movies and they should eb happy that people still wanna see the newest movie they release.
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8:03AM on 04/26/2011
I rather doubt taking the cars out of the equation will make them any more appealing to the broader audience.
I rather doubt taking the cars out of the equation will make them any more appealing to the broader audience.
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7:56AM on 04/26/2011

Guilty Pleasure through and through

As long as theres great stunts and car chases i'm up for it and if theres a few bikini shots too ahhh well bring them into it as well
As long as theres great stunts and car chases i'm up for it and if theres a few bikini shots too ahhh well bring them into it as well
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