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Writer Damon Lindelof apologizes for Carol Marcus underwear scene in Star Trek Into Darkness

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Coming soon this fall from FOX: Everybody Hates Lindelof!

To say writer Damon Lindelof divides movie fans is a bit of an understatement. While he has won the support of many people because of his work on STAR TREK, PROMETHEUS and the television series LOST, those same projects have also earned Lindelf the scorn of countless fanboys.

Recently Damon Lindelof defended the misdirection that was used in the marketing for STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS and now he's apologizing for a certain scene in the movie. Apparently Lindelof has been criticized by some female viewers and fans of the franchise for the Carol Marcus underwear scene in the film. They feel that the scene is out of place and also makes the character nothing more than a sex object. Damon Lindelof responded to the backlash by apologizing through his Twitter account:

Carol Marcus

I think the real problem is that in the end Carol Marcus wasn't a strong character. In my opinion she was one of the weaker aspects of the movie and the scene did feel like it was kind of shoehorned in. Even though she played an important part in STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS, it seemed like the character was there just to move the plot forward. If Carol Marcus had better character development I don't think fans would feel the same way about the scene. I don't remember anyone complaining about Zoe Saldana stripping down in the first film but she was one of the main characters and an integral part in the movie.

Another space themed example: Princess Leia's gold bikini in RETURN OF THE JEDI. Is it sexy? Hell yeah. But her character had proven that she's not just a pretty face and a killer body and it doesn't feel (as) exploitative.

So while I can see where some fans might be angry with the scene I think that if Carol Marcus was utilized better in the film it wouldn't be as big of a deal. What do you think?

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS is in theaters right now!

Extra Tidbit: Damon Lindelof also wrote for the television series Nash Bridges.

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2:07PM on 05/24/2013

Why the fuck??

Why the fuck? It's ok to be as violent as you can be, but the shot of a gorgeous woman in her underwear is offensive to people?? I was very fucking greatful for the shot. I would have done the same thing Kirk did, and sneak a peek! How often does one have gorgeous women undressing behind you? Mysoginistic would have been a gratuitous full nude or titi shot! Get over it, move on with your lives, the movie kicked ass, end of story!
Why the fuck? It's ok to be as violent as you can be, but the shot of a gorgeous woman in her underwear is offensive to people?? I was very fucking greatful for the shot. I would have done the same thing Kirk did, and sneak a peek! How often does one have gorgeous women undressing behind you? Mysoginistic would have been a gratuitous full nude or titi shot! Get over it, move on with your lives, the movie kicked ass, end of story!
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12:34AM on 05/23/2013
What is wrong with people? How can you be okay with violence yet be dead set against any form of nudity? It's like folks can watch characters on screen be blown up and shot up, but as soon as a little bit of close comes off, then it's considered to be "out of place." I know a person that allows her children to watch R rated movies but tells her kids to close their eyes whenever nudity is on screen. Gore and swear words are ok, but no nudity. How can folks across America not see they have such
What is wrong with people? How can you be okay with violence yet be dead set against any form of nudity? It's like folks can watch characters on screen be blown up and shot up, but as soon as a little bit of close comes off, then it's considered to be "out of place." I know a person that allows her children to watch R rated movies but tells her kids to close their eyes whenever nudity is on screen. Gore and swear words are ok, but no nudity. How can folks across America not see they have such ridiculous morals, when it comes to this subject?
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10:04PM on 05/22/2013
Mr. Lindelof is in violation of multiple man laws with those tweets that his wife and/or girl friend probably made him write. He had months or maybe even years of pre-production, production, post production to voice his concerns and/or re write that scene including the day(s) that it was shot...
Mr. Lindelof is in violation of multiple man laws with those tweets that his wife and/or girl friend probably made him write. He had months or maybe even years of pre-production, production, post production to voice his concerns and/or re write that scene including the day(s) that it was shot...
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9:20PM on 05/22/2013
I really dislike double-standards. Does the half naked shot serve a purpose? Not at all. Should it be offensive? Not at all. Women love to complain how men objectify women but women do the exact same thing. "How dare a man look at women's breasts...but did you see that hot guys chest?" Yeah, that seems to be how it goes.
Honestly people, get over it. First World Problems. An actress in bra and panties in a scene that may or may not have needed that. Third World Problems, NO FRIKKEN FOOD!!
I really dislike double-standards. Does the half naked shot serve a purpose? Not at all. Should it be offensive? Not at all. Women love to complain how men objectify women but women do the exact same thing. "How dare a man look at women's breasts...but did you see that hot guys chest?" Yeah, that seems to be how it goes.
Honestly people, get over it. First World Problems. An actress in bra and panties in a scene that may or may not have needed that. Third World Problems, NO FRIKKEN FOOD!! Think which issue is an actual issue.
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1:10PM on 05/22/2013
Didnt have a problem with the scene it fit the situation the characters were responding too. It wasnt a random hey check out my bod kind of thing. It would have worked better if there were more scenes with Kirk and her to develop their relationship.
Didnt have a problem with the scene it fit the situation the characters were responding too. It wasnt a random hey check out my bod kind of thing. It would have worked better if there were more scenes with Kirk and her to develop their relationship.
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12:47PM on 05/22/2013
Lindelof has to say that if they get complaints. Meanwhile in private, he's watching that scene over and over and over. Oooo mammy!
Lindelof has to say that if they get complaints. Meanwhile in private, he's watching that scene over and over and over. Oooo mammy!
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9:00AM on 05/22/2013

Grow the fuck up

If ppl have a problem with her being too minor of a character then complain about that and not that she was in her under wear for a scene. Get over it and talk about the real issue, assuming there is one.
If ppl have a problem with her being too minor of a character then complain about that and not that she was in her under wear for a scene. Get over it and talk about the real issue, assuming there is one.
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11:38PM on 05/21/2013
I guess smart girls cant be sexy too. Bet if this girl played a ditzy character nobody would have a problem with it.
I guess smart girls cant be sexy too. Bet if this girl played a ditzy character nobody would have a problem with it.
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11:37PM on 05/21/2013

Umm

No man should ever apologize for putting Alice Eve in her underwear...just saying
No man should ever apologize for putting Alice Eve in her underwear...just saying
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11:34PM on 05/21/2013
But we like sex objects.
But we like sex objects.
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11:32PM on 05/21/2013
Stupid and pointless thing to apologize for. In fact, why'd no one apologize for the gratuitous (un-welcome) male nudity in The Hangover? Double standard folks.
Stupid and pointless thing to apologize for. In fact, why'd no one apologize for the gratuitous (un-welcome) male nudity in The Hangover? Double standard folks.
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10:58PM on 05/21/2013
I love Lindleof's writing, but like so many have already said, he needs to stop apologizing to everyone. I get it if Marvel buckled and apologized for certain - ermm - creative choices in Iron Man 3, but this is just absurd. I hope he's being sarcastic, otherwise this is just uncalled for. People who make Honey Boo Boo should kneel and apologize. People who write Star Trek films should know how to flip complainers the bird every once in a while.
I love Lindleof's writing, but like so many have already said, he needs to stop apologizing to everyone. I get it if Marvel buckled and apologized for certain - ermm - creative choices in Iron Man 3, but this is just absurd. I hope he's being sarcastic, otherwise this is just uncalled for. People who make Honey Boo Boo should kneel and apologize. People who write Star Trek films should know how to flip complainers the bird every once in a while.
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7:57PM on 05/21/2013
He needs to apologize for apologizing.
He needs to apologize for apologizing.
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7:42PM on 05/21/2013
Jesus Christ, Lindelof. Grow a fucking pair of balls. Ooo, errr, oh no, an actress in their underwear. How fucking offensive. (note: that was sarcasm.) Don't apologise, it just makes you appear as though you're a spineless back-pedalling wimp.
Jesus Christ, Lindelof. Grow a fucking pair of balls. Ooo, errr, oh no, an actress in their underwear. How fucking offensive. (note: that was sarcasm.) Don't apologise, it just makes you appear as though you're a spineless back-pedalling wimp.
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7:04PM on 05/21/2013

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C'mon dude. Grow a pair. Great movie. Like the old saying goes, You can't please all of the people all the time. Just make a sequel already. They are on a 5 year mission. A movie every 2 years instead of 4. While were young!!!!
5 Disc Set.
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C'mon dude. Grow a pair. Great movie. Like the old saying goes, You can't please all of the people all the time. Just make a sequel already. They are on a 5 year mission. A movie every 2 years instead of 4. While were young!!!!
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6:50PM on 05/21/2013
I think the biggest problem with that scene is that Kirk and Carol didn't have much chemistry with each other.
The biggest problem with the movie, however, is that once you clear out the mystery of our charismatic adversary and his motives, the plot become so cliche that I stopped caring about the characters and just enjoy the scenery and lens flares until the movie ends.
I think the biggest problem with that scene is that Kirk and Carol didn't have much chemistry with each other.
The biggest problem with the movie, however, is that once you clear out the mystery of our charismatic adversary and his motives, the plot become so cliche that I stopped caring about the characters and just enjoy the scenery and lens flares until the movie ends.
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5:45PM on 05/21/2013
I think why Lindelof feels he needs to apologize is that he didn't in his writing give the character a reason to change clothes. It was just, "Carol changes clothes in one of the shuttles while talking to Kirk." No reason for it. At least when Kirk is shirtless there is a reason it is written that way. He is shirtless with the two "tail-girls"; that is demonstrating to the viewer the wild side of his character. The Marcus scene is lazy writing and that is why it rises to the level of
I think why Lindelof feels he needs to apologize is that he didn't in his writing give the character a reason to change clothes. It was just, "Carol changes clothes in one of the shuttles while talking to Kirk." No reason for it. At least when Kirk is shirtless there is a reason it is written that way. He is shirtless with the two "tail-girls"; that is demonstrating to the viewer the wild side of his character. The Marcus scene is lazy writing and that is why it rises to the level of exploitative.
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9:57AM on 05/22/2013
I thought she has a pretty good reason to change clothes. wasn't that right before they were going out on the surface of a planet? She probably didn't want to wear that hot little skirt uniform for the dirty work. made perfect sense to me.

this scene was awesome.
I thought she has a pretty good reason to change clothes. wasn't that right before they were going out on the surface of a planet? She probably didn't want to wear that hot little skirt uniform for the dirty work. made perfect sense to me.

this scene was awesome.
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5:21PM on 05/21/2013
I just lost a lot of respect for Lindelof.
I just lost a lot of respect for Lindelof.
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5:06PM on 05/21/2013
Why would you apologize for this? The movies audience this weekend I believe was around 70% MEN! Men want to see T&A. Even the old guys I saw coming out of the theatres who probably watched the 1960s TV show enjoyed it i bet. Now, Damon, if you make a gay male porn and throw in naked women all over, then you may have to apologize.
Why would you apologize for this? The movies audience this weekend I believe was around 70% MEN! Men want to see T&A. Even the old guys I saw coming out of the theatres who probably watched the 1960s TV show enjoyed it i bet. Now, Damon, if you make a gay male porn and throw in naked women all over, then you may have to apologize.
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5:04PM on 05/21/2013
What's with all these writers or directors having to apologize to fanboys all the sudden? Stick by what you write or put on the screen & tell these fanboys to shove it. I mean to apologize for THIS of all things is becoming too much. Never been into Star Trek or Star Wars,so I could really care less anyway.
What's with all these writers or directors having to apologize to fanboys all the sudden? Stick by what you write or put on the screen & tell these fanboys to shove it. I mean to apologize for THIS of all things is becoming too much. Never been into Star Trek or Star Wars,so I could really care less anyway.
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4:50PM on 05/21/2013
I don't get why he has to apologize. I'm a woman and it didn't bother me. People can be overly sensitive morons.
I don't get why he has to apologize. I'm a woman and it didn't bother me. People can be overly sensitive morons.
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4:40PM on 05/21/2013

jesus christ!

i miss the 80s
i miss the 80s
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4:22PM on 05/21/2013
The scene was gratuitous but so were the special effects, action, violence, emoting, etc. It was a summer movie. Star Trek: Into Darkness is supposed to be OTT.
Mainly, people need to remember that the scene was funny. Humor flouts propriety. Sometimes, humor relies upon creating awkward situations for a scene's characters.
Also, Kirk is a horndog; therefore, his peeping is in character (i.e. it is appropriate characterization).
The scene was gratuitous but so were the special effects, action, violence, emoting, etc. It was a summer movie. Star Trek: Into Darkness is supposed to be OTT.
Mainly, people need to remember that the scene was funny. Humor flouts propriety. Sometimes, humor relies upon creating awkward situations for a scene's characters.
Also, Kirk is a horndog; therefore, his peeping is in character (i.e. it is appropriate characterization).
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4:01PM on 05/21/2013

Two things

The scene was only there to slightly enhance the sexual tension between Kirk and Marcus for future films because this one didn't really allow the tone of their romance to take place.

Secondly, Lindelof apologizing is bullshit. The guy needs to have some balls and take some stands against his own writing. Writes take chances and it made the final cut. He doesn't need to defend anything to anyone. It's literally two seconds of a highly entertaining movie. Why is there so much focus on
The scene was only there to slightly enhance the sexual tension between Kirk and Marcus for future films because this one didn't really allow the tone of their romance to take place.

Secondly, Lindelof apologizing is bullshit. The guy needs to have some balls and take some stands against his own writing. Writes take chances and it made the final cut. He doesn't need to defend anything to anyone. It's literally two seconds of a highly entertaining movie. Why is there so much focus on something so small?
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3:29PM on 05/21/2013

it's all part of the show

It's all part of J.J.'s plan to make Star Trek sexy and cool
It's all part of J.J.'s plan to make Star Trek sexy and cool
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3:14PM on 05/21/2013

WTF?

Complaining about Alice Eve in her underwear? Really? Pull the stick out of your a$$. Who complained about Carrie Fisher in the slave bikini? Was that necessary? Who complained about Sigourney Weaver in her little panties and thin tank top at the end of Alien? Was it necessary? Some people just have way too much free time and need something to bitch about. The funny thing with this is Lindelof and yet another apology.
Complaining about Alice Eve in her underwear? Really? Pull the stick out of your a$$. Who complained about Carrie Fisher in the slave bikini? Was that necessary? Who complained about Sigourney Weaver in her little panties and thin tank top at the end of Alien? Was it necessary? Some people just have way too much free time and need something to bitch about. The funny thing with this is Lindelof and yet another apology.
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2:38PM on 05/21/2013

No apology necessary

Let's be honest here, no film can be released these days w/o people finding something to complain about. Im sure Alice Eve didn't mind showing off her sexuality, because if she did, she could have said no, im sure that wouldn't have been a deal breaker with the studio, they would have sounded like pigs if it was
Let's be honest here, no film can be released these days w/o people finding something to complain about. Im sure Alice Eve didn't mind showing off her sexuality, because if she did, she could have said no, im sure that wouldn't have been a deal breaker with the studio, they would have sounded like pigs if it was
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2:37PM on 05/21/2013

No apology necessary

Let's be honest here, no film can be released these days w/o people finding something to complain about. Im sure Alice Eve didn't mind showing off her sexuality, because if she did, she could have said no, im sure that wouldn't have been a deal breaker with the studio, they would have sounded like pigs if it was
Let's be honest here, no film can be released these days w/o people finding something to complain about. Im sure Alice Eve didn't mind showing off her sexuality, because if she did, she could have said no, im sure that wouldn't have been a deal breaker with the studio, they would have sounded like pigs if it was
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2:18PM on 05/21/2013

I'm a feminist and I really didn't have much of a problem with it.

Sexualization of a female character is not wrong. OVERsexualization is wrong, but then where do we blur the line. Sexualization is a natural part of any human's development as a personality. I think people forget that... well, honestly, if Alice Eve wasn't comfortable doing a scene like this because it would have objectified her character, she would not have agreed to do it. She was fine with the minor sexualization (realistic sexualization) of this one scene, obviously, or she would not
Sexualization of a female character is not wrong. OVERsexualization is wrong, but then where do we blur the line. Sexualization is a natural part of any human's development as a personality. I think people forget that... well, honestly, if Alice Eve wasn't comfortable doing a scene like this because it would have objectified her character, she would not have agreed to do it. She was fine with the minor sexualization (realistic sexualization) of this one scene, obviously, or she would not have agreed to do it.


With that being said, I will fully admit this might be because my expectations were much lower about the portrayal of women in Star Trek Into Darkness, though. When it came out that JJ Abrams stated that "Star Trek has to be sexy", it scared me that he would be making mincemeat of the strength of the female characters, in favor of oversexualizing them to an offensive degree. These expectations were so high that when all is said and done, I honestly couldn't have cared less haha.

This scene in particular did feel a tad out-of-place, and her character was definitely not as strong as she should have been, but I felt that if you keep looking at her character on the surface, she will continue to disappoint. But subtly, she was still a very strong character. SPOILERSshe smacks her father, she sneaks herself onto the Enterprise, she comes off as very confident, she is caring and sweet, and she helped the plot move forward a lot more than is being made about her characterEND SPOILERS

Alice Eve is a beautiful actress, she was a great character, and if she had no problem with filming that scene, then I have no problem with the scene. If she feels it is exploitative, then I would be sympathetic and defend it more vehemently. But at the end of that day, the portrayal of women in Star Trek Into Darkness, while not quite as strong as I would have liked, was not bad at all. I can think of hundreds of movies from the past decade that portray them 100 times worse.

Again with the subtleties idea, Zoe Saldana's character also didn't do anything blatantly empowering, but she added a great emotional balance to Spock. It's kind of surprising that while there are only two main female characters, they have a bigger impact on the feel of the movie, the character development, and the plot than they are being given credit for, in my opinion.

As a big fan of Star Trek Into Darkness and not a fan of Iron Man 3 at all, it shocks me how many more stories I've been seeing about Star Trek needing to defend its decisions than Iron Man 3. It baffles me, really.
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3:33PM on 05/21/2013
If you're a feminist on JoBlo... you're gonna have a bad time.
If you're a feminist on JoBlo... you're gonna have a bad time.
3:42PM on 05/21/2013
If you're a feminist, period, you're gonna have a bad time.
If you're a feminist, period, you're gonna have a bad time.
8:01PM on 05/21/2013
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... nice one fella's.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... nice one fella's.
1:21PM on 05/21/2013
I'm sad he apologized. Love this scene, love Alice Eve, love Carol Marcus. She did a shit-ton of sit-ups and worked hours upon end to look that amazing and we needed to see this.
I'm sad he apologized. Love this scene, love Alice Eve, love Carol Marcus. She did a shit-ton of sit-ups and worked hours upon end to look that amazing and we needed to see this.
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1:10PM on 05/21/2013
the film needed more scenes like this and maybe i would have liked it more
the film needed more scenes like this and maybe i would have liked it more
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12:33PM on 05/21/2013
Glad he apolgized. I hated that shot because it turned the brilliant Carol Marcus into just another girl in a bra and panties.
Glad he apolgized. I hated that shot because it turned the brilliant Carol Marcus into just another girl in a bra and panties.
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5:01PM on 05/21/2013
You didn't like the film anyway, so what's another complaint?
You didn't like the film anyway, so what's another complaint?
5:08PM on 05/21/2013
Unless your a feminist, man card revoked!
Unless your a feminist, man card revoked!
11:59AM on 05/21/2013

Lindelof

With all the explaining, defending and apologizing Lindelof seems to be doing lately, how the hell does he have any time left over to write all these projects?

I hated the scene myself, simply because it was gratuitous and had no purpose other than to show off the lovely Alice Eve's body. STAR TREK was never in short supply of scantily clad female figures, but here its sole purpose to needlessly throw in some sex appeal was all too clear. Although I will admit that I disliked the lame Kirk
With all the explaining, defending and apologizing Lindelof seems to be doing lately, how the hell does he have any time left over to write all these projects?

I hated the scene myself, simply because it was gratuitous and had no purpose other than to show off the lovely Alice Eve's body. STAR TREK was never in short supply of scantily clad female figures, but here its sole purpose to needlessly throw in some sex appeal was all too clear. Although I will admit that I disliked the lame Kirk threesome moment more.
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11:43AM on 05/21/2013
People need to get over themselves. This is just pathetic.
People need to get over themselves. This is just pathetic.
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11:31AM on 05/21/2013
Lindelof is rapidly becoming parody.
Lindelof is rapidly becoming parody.
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11:04AM on 05/21/2013
If I was one of the producers, I would be pretty pissed he kept apologizing about stuff in the film. People might not like some things, but apologizing for it is admitting that the movie is broken and and I'm trying to run a business here.
If I was one of the producers, I would be pretty pissed he kept apologizing about stuff in the film. People might not like some things, but apologizing for it is admitting that the movie is broken and and I'm trying to run a business here.
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1:12PM on 05/21/2013
If I was one of the producers, Carol Marcus wouldn't have any underwear.
If I was one of the producers, Carol Marcus wouldn't have any underwear.
5:38PM on 05/21/2013
↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ I like his idea.
↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ I like his idea.
10:47AM on 05/21/2013
It was unnecessary, yes, but it wasn't Megan Fox perched improbably on a motorcycle or a minute-long close-up shot of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley's butt.
It was unnecessary, yes, but it wasn't Megan Fox perched improbably on a motorcycle or a minute-long close-up shot of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley's butt.
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10:42AM on 05/21/2013

Well..

I'm just thankful it was filmed.
I'm just thankful it was filmed.
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10:40AM on 05/21/2013

people are stupid

Yeah it's an obvious scene making it feel shallow but seriously, these scenes happen in all sorts of movies, being gratuitous with males and females. It's entertainment! There's is nothing new about this sort of scene happening and people need to not make a special case of it unless they want to acknowledge that it's happening everywhere, with both genders.
Yeah it's an obvious scene making it feel shallow but seriously, these scenes happen in all sorts of movies, being gratuitous with males and females. It's entertainment! There's is nothing new about this sort of scene happening and people need to not make a special case of it unless they want to acknowledge that it's happening everywhere, with both genders.
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10:36AM on 05/21/2013
It's official, we're a nation of pussies. Stop bowing down to the offended masses! And remember, just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.
It's official, we're a nation of pussies. Stop bowing down to the offended masses! And remember, just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.
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2:33PM on 05/21/2013
So perfectly stated.
So perfectly stated.
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10:33AM on 05/21/2013
the next time i see a movie and i see a guy with his shirt off, im gonna lose my mind and get offended. looking at you Wolverine, Man of Steel, Pacific Rim, possibly Spiderman, and anything L L Cool J is in.
the next time i see a movie and i see a guy with his shirt off, im gonna lose my mind and get offended. looking at you Wolverine, Man of Steel, Pacific Rim, possibly Spiderman, and anything L L Cool J is in.
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11:03AM on 05/21/2013
Ladies Love Cool Jay
Ladies Love Cool Jay
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10:28AM on 05/21/2013

people are stupid

Yeah it's an obvious scene making it feel shallow but seriously, these scenes happen in all sorts of movies, being gratuitous with males and females. It's entertainment! There's is nothing new about this sort of scene happening and people need to not make a special case of it unless they want to acknowledge that it's happening everywhere, with both genders.
Yeah it's an obvious scene making it feel shallow but seriously, these scenes happen in all sorts of movies, being gratuitous with males and females. It's entertainment! There's is nothing new about this sort of scene happening and people need to not make a special case of it unless they want to acknowledge that it's happening everywhere, with both genders.
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10:14AM on 05/21/2013
Wasn't a long enough glimpse...
Wasn't a long enough glimpse...
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10:13AM on 05/21/2013
I haven't had a chance to see the film yet, but I have seen the pic and I love it. Alice Eve is rocking it. I don't see why feminists can't just celebrate the beauty of the female body.
I haven't had a chance to see the film yet, but I have seen the pic and I love it. Alice Eve is rocking it. I don't see why feminists can't just celebrate the beauty of the female body.
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10:03AM on 05/21/2013

People are too sensitive...

Give it a rest. If a writer wants to put a hot girl in underwear to help sell a movie than so be it. People will find anything to complain about it, its ridiculous he even felt the need to apologize.
Give it a rest. If a writer wants to put a hot girl in underwear to help sell a movie than so be it. People will find anything to complain about it, its ridiculous he even felt the need to apologize.
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10:03AM on 05/21/2013
wow, who cares, for starters you cant please everyone, out of 100 people, 99 will say they like something and 1 wont, its just life, those people dont have to watch it. hell it was in the trailers so it shouldnt have been a surprise theres a woman in her underwear in this movie, she wasnt nude. i miss the old days of film, when everyone was a self proclaimed critic.
wow, who cares, for starters you cant please everyone, out of 100 people, 99 will say they like something and 1 wont, its just life, those people dont have to watch it. hell it was in the trailers so it shouldnt have been a surprise theres a woman in her underwear in this movie, she wasnt nude. i miss the old days of film, when everyone was a self proclaimed critic.
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9:56AM on 05/21/2013
I kind of agree its gratuitous and lame. Star Trek is supposed to be sexy, but there needs to be a point to it.
I kind of agree its gratuitous and lame. Star Trek is supposed to be sexy, but there needs to be a point to it.
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9:55AM on 05/21/2013

Don't apologize

There is no circumstance where anybody male or female, straight or not, can't appreciate Alice Eve in her undies.
There is no circumstance where anybody male or female, straight or not, can't appreciate Alice Eve in her undies.
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9:44AM on 05/21/2013
Dude, enough with the apologies already!
Dude, enough with the apologies already!
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9:41AM on 05/21/2013
While the scene was out of place, it's great to know womens underwear hasn't changed at all in the future
While the scene was out of place, it's great to know womens underwear hasn't changed at all in the future
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9:39AM on 05/21/2013

why

why is this news?
why is this news?
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9:43AM on 05/21/2013
The scene with Leonard Nimoy was more offensively gratuitous. It was completely unnecessary to any aspect of the Star Trek canon.
The scene with Leonard Nimoy was more offensively gratuitous. It was completely unnecessary to any aspect of the Star Trek canon.
10:04AM on 05/21/2013
So a woman undressing and Kirk taking a peek at her is unnecessary in a Star Trek film? It lasted what? 30 seconds to a over 2 hour film.

This is bad nitpicking on a movie. It's the basic equivalent to Shane Black apologizing to all burn victims offended because Guy Pierce breathed fire in Iron Man 3.

And I found the Nemoy scene funny, it's like this version's spock has the ultimate cheat code in this universe. Not sure of someone or something? He can always turn to his future self and
So a woman undressing and Kirk taking a peek at her is unnecessary in a Star Trek film? It lasted what? 30 seconds to a over 2 hour film.

This is bad nitpicking on a movie. It's the basic equivalent to Shane Black apologizing to all burn victims offended because Guy Pierce breathed fire in Iron Man 3.

And I found the Nemoy scene funny, it's like this version's spock has the ultimate cheat code in this universe. Not sure of someone or something? He can always turn to his future self and ask about it.
9:36AM on 05/21/2013
I don't see the hate for this guy. The Scene mentioned above did seem out of place. Could have been pulled out easy. I respect Lindeloff as a writer, he's unconventional.
I don't see the hate for this guy. The Scene mentioned above did seem out of place. Could have been pulled out easy. I respect Lindeloff as a writer, he's unconventional.
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9:35AM on 05/21/2013
As a red-blooded male, he doesn't need to apologize. However in terms of the film itself, the scene really made no sense.
As a red-blooded male, he doesn't need to apologize. However in terms of the film itself, the scene really made no sense.
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9:33AM on 05/21/2013

There's Some Context Missed Here

The relationship that developed between Dr. Marcus and Kirk was very important to the previous series of Star Trek movies. Carol Marcus is the mother of Kirk's son - a pretty important reason for him to be attracted to her. Let's see if Lindelof writes that into the next couple of films.
Besides, Alice Eve got a chance to show a rockin' set of abs!
The relationship that developed between Dr. Marcus and Kirk was very important to the previous series of Star Trek movies. Carol Marcus is the mother of Kirk's son - a pretty important reason for him to be attracted to her. Let's see if Lindelof writes that into the next couple of films.
Besides, Alice Eve got a chance to show a rockin' set of abs!
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9:31AM on 05/21/2013
Of all the things to apologise about Into Darkness, this is not one of them.
Of all the things to apologise about Into Darkness, this is not one of them.
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