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X-Men and The Fantastic Four won't share the same cinematic universe

05.13.2014

If you're one of those people who are still hopeful a crossover movie involving the X-Men and Fantastic Four will happen, I have some bad news for you: at this point the two teams don't even exist in the same cinematic universe.

In an interview with ScreenCrush, X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST and THE FANTASTIC FOUR scribe Simon Kinberg says the superhero teams live in "discreet universes."

Simon Kinberg: Well, it’s complicated. Because none of the X-Men movies have acknowledged the notion of a sort of superhero team — the Fantastic Four. And the Fantastic Four acquire powers, so for them to live in a world where mutants are prevalent is kind of complicated, because you’re like, “Oh, you’re just a mutant.” Like, “What’s so fantastic about you?”

ScreenCrush: “We have powers … just like that team down the street.”

Kinberg: Right, right. Exactly, “So, I guess we’ll go to school now. We’ll go to Xavier’s school.” No, it is, they live in discrete universes.

This doesn't mean the X-Men and Fantastic Four will never be in a movie together, however right now it doesn't sound like it's going to happen anytime soon. Simon Kinberg also couldn't reveal much on THE FANTASTIC FOUR, but he did talk about how rebooting FANTASTIC FOUR is different compared to Marc Webb's Spidey reboot.

I guess I’ll say this: People have a very different relationship to the Fantastic Four movies than they had to Raimi’s Spider-Man movies. And Raimi’s Spider-Man movies — and that first Spider-Man movie — is a beloved movie that sort of redefined, tonally, sort of what comic book movies could do. There had been other superhero movies, like ‘X-Men,’ but Raimi’s Spider-Man had a joyfulness to it that was unique, I think, to the genre. So, rebooting a movie that was beloved less than ten years after it had come out is challenging. So, we approach ‘Fantastic Four’ with a different set of challenges.

Although most do have a "very different relationship" to the original FANTASTIC FOUR movies, many are also not pleased with some of the things going on with the reboot. I'm taking a "wait and see" approach with the reboot, but I can understand why many of you just don't care about Josh Trank's new movie, or believe it's going to be a giant mess. Would a solid trailer change your opinion on THE FANTASTIC FOUR, or do you think there's no chance it'll be a decent movie?

X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST will be released on May 23rd, 2014, and THE FANTASTIC FOUR is scheduled to open on June 19th, 2015.

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6:33AM on 05/16/2014

So in other news...

No shit? And in even more news, who cares? The Fantastic Four reboot sounds so bad, that it'll hopefully force them to sell the rights to Marvel/Disney!
No shit? And in even more news, who cares? The Fantastic Four reboot sounds so bad, that it'll hopefully force them to sell the rights to Marvel/Disney!
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10:49AM on 05/14/2014
Sounds like a weak ass excuse to me. At the end of the day, it's all about the money. They don't want to turn over the properties to Marvel and that's that. Everyone wants their slice o' the pie
Sounds like a weak ass excuse to me. At the end of the day, it's all about the money. They don't want to turn over the properties to Marvel and that's that. Everyone wants their slice o' the pie
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9:01PM on 05/13/2014
Dumb.
Dumb.
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8:33PM on 05/13/2014
These people who are so sure the new FF movie is going to be terrible are really stupid. Not only are most of them going to go see the movie (cough*soloist*cough) wether it has good or bad reviews, but we haven't seen one thing about the movie. This is what I know: ive never big a big FF fan, the director and cast is pretty talented, and Fox has a spotty record with Marvel films. Yea, it could be bad. I don't have an opinion on it. I can understand doubting it'll be good. But all this
These people who are so sure the new FF movie is going to be terrible are really stupid. Not only are most of them going to go see the movie (cough*soloist*cough) wether it has good or bad reviews, but we haven't seen one thing about the movie. This is what I know: ive never big a big FF fan, the director and cast is pretty talented, and Fox has a spotty record with Marvel films. Yea, it could be bad. I don't have an opinion on it. I can understand doubting it'll be good. But all this passionate hate with NO knowledge of the film, no pictures, no trailer, this is what's so terrible with the fanboy community. At some point in time - the phantom menace maybe? And of course the introduction of being able to comment anonymously on the internet - it became "cool" to passionately bash films before we had seen a frame of it yet. I totally understand doubting, but the main cast and crew is fucking talented. And for ppl who say they aren't taking the source material seriously or haven't read it, you're fucking stupid too bc the FF comics don't feature ANY of the original 4 characters right now. Sure I have definately said this movie sounds like it's gonna be awful bc of director and or cast - sometimes I was right and sometimes I was wrong - but I don't root for a movie to be bad. And I certainly don't know something will be bad before I've seen or tried it. That is ignorance and small-mindedness. All this intense hate and positive it'll be bad - quit watching movies then. Quit reading the articles or the articles about said movies. That's really just shameful behavior.
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2:13AM on 05/14/2014
Pretty talented cast? Or a cast that looks like it should be for a failed TV show pilot. 'Teller wasn't bad in Spectacular Now and Jordon gave a hell of a performance in Fruitvale Station!".

I thought Jonah Hill was really good in Wolf of Wall street so let's cast him as Iron Man when Downey eventually walks away.

But he's the wrong age and body shape and just wrong in almost every way.


BUT he was good in The Wolf of Wall Street so if you don't like this casting choice then you are a
Pretty talented cast? Or a cast that looks like it should be for a failed TV show pilot. 'Teller wasn't bad in Spectacular Now and Jordon gave a hell of a performance in Fruitvale Station!".

I thought Jonah Hill was really good in Wolf of Wall street so let's cast him as Iron Man when Downey eventually walks away.

But he's the wrong age and body shape and just wrong in almost every way.


BUT he was good in The Wolf of Wall Street so if you don't like this casting choice then you are a hater and your opinion doesn't matter.


Right?
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8:14PM on 05/13/2014
Fantastic Four has a solid shot of being good. I think it has a better shot at being good than most of the Spidey stuff in production now. Chronicle is a solid enough movie to go see whatever the director makes next, at least one more film (and based off their films, I would've hired the guy who directed Chronicle to direct my blockbuster comic book movie over the guy who directed 500 Days Of Summer). But with all that said, I've never been a big FF fan to begin with and X-Men has tons more
Fantastic Four has a solid shot of being good. I think it has a better shot at being good than most of the Spidey stuff in production now. Chronicle is a solid enough movie to go see whatever the director makes next, at least one more film (and based off their films, I would've hired the guy who directed Chronicle to direct my blockbuster comic book movie over the guy who directed 500 Days Of Summer). But with all that said, I've never been a big FF fan to begin with and X-Men has tons more characters and storylines to explore wether it's with characters they've already introduced but shafted (Cyclops and Gambit and Colussus), or ones they haven't introduced (Cable and dozens more). I'd rather them flesh that out then hang out with or fight the FF.
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5:03PM on 05/13/2014

Speaking of shared Universes

Can we make our universe one that doesn't have this Fantastic Four reboot film?
Can we make our universe one that doesn't have this Fantastic Four reboot film?
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2:16AM on 05/14/2014
You win.
You win.
4:16PM on 05/13/2014
Well, so much for the coherent Marvel/Fox Cinematic Universe they tried to sell us a few months ago...
Retrospectively, I'm glad they don't do it: I, for one, DON'T want my great new X-Men timeline (post DoFP), polluted by this new Garbage Four dimension !
Well, so much for the coherent Marvel/Fox Cinematic Universe they tried to sell us a few months ago...
Retrospectively, I'm glad they don't do it: I, for one, DON'T want my great new X-Men timeline (post DoFP), polluted by this new Garbage Four dimension !
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4:00PM on 05/13/2014

People wanted this? Why?

Glad it's not happening, I guess.
Glad it's not happening, I guess.
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2:09PM on 05/13/2014
HALLELUJAH!
HALLELUJAH!
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1:36PM on 05/13/2014
Yeah, if they need a big gimmick they'll trot out the old dimensional rift story so the two teams can meet.
In the mean time they can avoid what every "Everything Wrong With" video mentions about Marvel's single hero films. You wonder where the rest of The Avengers are and why the hero never calls for help when the world is menaced.
Yeah, if they need a big gimmick they'll trot out the old dimensional rift story so the two teams can meet.
In the mean time they can avoid what every "Everything Wrong With" video mentions about Marvel's single hero films. You wonder where the rest of The Avengers are and why the hero never calls for help when the world is menaced.
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3:41PM on 05/13/2014
Although so far, there hasn't been a post Avengers movie where that's been necessary (yet...). In Iron Man 3, the Mandarin was a homeland security issue, and I don't think the US military was ever a big fan of Shield anyway. In Thor 2, the problems were just family issues, so to speak. A little weird they didn't show Fury yelling at him at some point for not giving him sufficient warning, but not wierd that Shield was out of the picture. And the only person realistically missing from Cap2 was
Although so far, there hasn't been a post Avengers movie where that's been necessary (yet...). In Iron Man 3, the Mandarin was a homeland security issue, and I don't think the US military was ever a big fan of Shield anyway. In Thor 2, the problems were just family issues, so to speak. A little weird they didn't show Fury yelling at him at some point for not giving him sufficient warning, but not wierd that Shield was out of the picture. And the only person realistically missing from Cap2 was Hawkeye
12:20PM on 05/13/2014

So Mark Millar was full of shit?

WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED??.
WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED??.
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4:18PM on 05/13/2014
You mean, aside from himself ?
You mean, aside from himself ?
12:13PM on 05/13/2014
I'm one of those people who think the x-men are at their best when they don't share anyone else's universe, so this sort do news will always be a good thing to me.
As for FF, while everyone is unanimously confident it will suck, I don't think anyone is being dogmatic about it. A great trailer or positive reviews will be enough to change most peoples' minds. The real challenge is that this isn't a group people feel very passionate about. It's not just about putting together a competent film,
I'm one of those people who think the x-men are at their best when they don't share anyone else's universe, so this sort do news will always be a good thing to me.
As for FF, while everyone is unanimously confident it will suck, I don't think anyone is being dogmatic about it. A great trailer or positive reviews will be enough to change most peoples' minds. The real challenge is that this isn't a group people feel very passionate about. It's not just about putting together a competent film, you have to convince people that they should care
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5:06PM on 05/13/2014
Problem is that the people who are making the movie don't seem to care about the source material. It's hard to get the fan base to care when everything about this film is so underwhelming.
Problem is that the people who are making the movie don't seem to care about the source material. It's hard to get the fan base to care when everything about this film is so underwhelming.
8:17PM on 05/13/2014
Why don't they care about the source material? Bc they hired a black actor? Again, have you read a copy of FF lately? There's a Katy Perry type pop singer who wears a mechanical Thing suit as a member
Why don't they care about the source material? Bc they hired a black actor? Again, have you read a copy of FF lately? There's a Katy Perry type pop singer who wears a mechanical Thing suit as a member
11:58AM on 05/13/2014
Good. But let's see how the new Fantastic Four movie turns out to be. If it's good (which I doubt it), they might join forces with X-Men. Who knows?
Good. But let's see how the new Fantastic Four movie turns out to be. If it's good (which I doubt it), they might join forces with X-Men. Who knows?
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11:55AM on 05/13/2014

Great to hear

I was worried Fox would try to follow in everyone else's footsteps by trying to create this expansive universe and having the individual films suffer as a result (The Amazing Spider-Man 2). I look forward to both the future of X-Men and the rebooted Fantastic Four because unlike most people, I don't criticize something before seeing at least an official still.
I was worried Fox would try to follow in everyone else's footsteps by trying to create this expansive universe and having the individual films suffer as a result (The Amazing Spider-Man 2). I look forward to both the future of X-Men and the rebooted Fantastic Four because unlike most people, I don't criticize something before seeing at least an official still.
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11:24AM on 05/13/2014

Good. In other news.....

I read how Xavier is able to walk in the new XMen film........
I read how Xavier is able to walk in the new XMen film........
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1:02PM on 05/13/2014
i seek enlightenment
i seek enlightenment
4:21PM on 05/13/2014
Spoiler:
It's a serum, created by Hank, the very same that allows him to be in human form. The downside is that it suppress his telepathy.
Spoiler:
It's a serum, created by Hank, the very same that allows him to be in human form. The downside is that it suppress his telepathy.
11:19AM on 05/13/2014

GOOD NEWS Of the day!

I'm not gonna like this new FF movie..not gonna watch it on cinema either. i'm gonna just download it from some site or something cos it's not worth of single cent from my pocket.

So, this is is a damn good news to know that it won't ruin x-men movies in the future.
I'm not gonna like this new FF movie..not gonna watch it on cinema either. i'm gonna just download it from some site or something cos it's not worth of single cent from my pocket.

So, this is is a damn good news to know that it won't ruin x-men movies in the future.
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11:10AM on 05/13/2014
No complaints here. 4/6 X-men movies have been pretty damn good on their own, why muddle things up with a movie thats looking like a disaster
No complaints here. 4/6 X-men movies have been pretty damn good on their own, why muddle things up with a movie thats looking like a disaster
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10:34AM on 05/13/2014

I agree that it is a dumb excuse...

... I mean sure, they haven't acknowledged the Fantastic Four. They're rebooting, yes?!
Then they haven't been created yet!
This is where creative license comes into play. Is it so hard?

Extra tidbit: In the deleted scenes in Fantastic Four, Mr. Fantastic stretches/morphs into Wolverine. So there has been acknowledgement in the past.

But just to be clear, every reboot or introductory hero movie should stand on it's own first, before mingling with others.
... I mean sure, they haven't acknowledged the Fantastic Four. They're rebooting, yes?!
Then they haven't been created yet!
This is where creative license comes into play. Is it so hard?

Extra tidbit: In the deleted scenes in Fantastic Four, Mr. Fantastic stretches/morphs into Wolverine. So there has been acknowledgement in the past.

But just to be clear, every reboot or introductory hero movie should stand on it's own first, before mingling with others.
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10:30AM on 05/13/2014

What is so fantastic about you?

because you’re like, “Oh, you’re just a mutant.” Like, “What’s so fantastic about you?” -
But it is a serious coming of age story, ain't that just fantastic?
Fantastic Fail.
because you’re like, “Oh, you’re just a mutant.” Like, “What’s so fantastic about you?” -
But it is a serious coming of age story, ain't that just fantastic?
Fantastic Fail.
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10:28AM on 05/13/2014
I'm glad that the X-Men and this new Fantastic Four reboot will not combine universes and crossover into one another's films. The X-Men franchise is actually a great, proud, quality franchise, while this new Fucktastic Four reboot will be a colossal piece of shit. So yeah, keeping the two franchises separate is fine with me by all accounts.

And I don't really want anyone crossing over with the X-Men in these new films. There are SO MANY stories involved with the X-Men that I would want to
I'm glad that the X-Men and this new Fantastic Four reboot will not combine universes and crossover into one another's films. The X-Men franchise is actually a great, proud, quality franchise, while this new Fucktastic Four reboot will be a colossal piece of shit. So yeah, keeping the two franchises separate is fine with me by all accounts.

And I don't really want anyone crossing over with the X-Men in these new films. There are SO MANY stories involved with the X-Men that I would want to see first before a crossover with The Avengers, Spider Man, Fantastic Four, etc.
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10:26AM on 05/13/2014
That's a relief. I think the X-Men do have a good thing going now that Days of Future Past seems to be overwriting The Last Stand.
That's a relief. I think the X-Men do have a good thing going now that Days of Future Past seems to be overwriting The Last Stand.
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10:48AM on 05/13/2014
haha from what I read, (Spoiler)
























its overwriting xmen origins,x1 x2 x3, the wolverine.
haha from what I read, (Spoiler)
























its overwriting xmen origins,x1 x2 x3, the wolverine.
12:09PM on 05/13/2014
That's not a spoiler. DOFP is set in the seventies.
That's not a spoiler. DOFP is set in the seventies.
9:50PM on 05/13/2014
Ya but Wolverine does return to 2020something and. More spoilers















Jean and Scott are alive
Ya but Wolverine does return to 2020something and. More spoilers















Jean and Scott are alive
10:19AM on 05/13/2014
That might be the dumbest excuse ever.
That might be the dumbest excuse ever.
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