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11.09.2016

I know it's had its ups and downs, but I love the X-MEN movie series. I mean, the first X-MEN kicked off the current superhero craze in 2000, and X2 is considered one of the best superhero movies ever made. Hell, even its lesser entries that I hate have good stuff in them, like Kelsey Grammer as Beast and that scene where Magneto scolds Pyro about Xavier in X3, and even WOLVERINE: ORIGINS had Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth.

However, it seems that after the disappointing box-office of X-MEN: APOCALYPSE (making almost 200 million dollars less than previous X-film DAYS OF FUTURE PAST), FOX is looking to finally reboot the franchise. Coupled with the fact that LOGAN will mark the end of Hugh Jackman's tenure as Wolverine, and that the main leads of the new X-franchise - James McAvoy, Jennifer Lawrence, Michael Fassbender, and Nicholas Hoult - have all fulfilled their three-picture contract (and become expensive, marquee names in the process), it's looking like a complete overhaul is in order.

Right now Simon Kinberg is overseeing the direction of the new, rebooted X-franchise as writer and producer, while Bryan Singer is apparently no longer involved. The hope is to get the new cast members (McAvoy, Lawrence, Hoult and Fassbender) to join the new X-MEN series, but there's an implication that if they don't sign on they'll move on without them and start completely fresh. Before this shake-up there was a plan for the next X-MEN sequel to be set in the '90s (continuing the "each sequel is a decade" theme), so I'm wondering if that'll stay intact as well if the cast decides to not come back.

In other X-news, DEADPOOL 3 has been greenlit (natch), the teen-centric NEW MUTANTS from FAULT OF OUR STARS director Josh Boone is to start shooting in spring, and GAMBIT is apparently going to go back in active development with a new, soon-to-be-announced filmmaker. How the reboot will affect these three X-MEN spin-offs (as well as the FX series LEGION) is still up in the air.

On the one hand, I'm disappointed that the longest-running superhero franchise (over fifteen years straight!) will finally be coming to an end (assuming the FIRST CLASS cast decide not to re-up their contracts). However, on the other hand, I would like to see the franchise go in a new direction. The success of DR. STRANGE should show studios that audiences are now primed for more weird, colorful, and esoteric comic-book fare. The X-MEN comics could get pretty weird, and it'd be nice to see a more colorful, fun take on the material (not dissimilar to the initial FIRST CLASS reboot - yellow/blue suits and all). I don't dislike the grounded take Singer took for the initial franchise (indeed, that groundedness is probably what made the series palatable to mainstream audiences in the first place), but maybe it's time for some new blood.

But what do you guys think? Sound off below!

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Extra Tidbit: Dougray Scott was approached to play Logan/Wolverine in the first X-Men film, but had to back out when shooting MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 2 went over-schedule.
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8:27PM on 11/15/2016

Yesssssssssssssssssss!

Reboot this sickly series. They are so tame. Days Of Future Past is the one that I actually like, but everything else was mostly Teen TV fare. These characters have much more power than has ever been put on screen. Their potential has yet to be tapped by any of the directors previously involved. I will cross my fingers, but I don't have that much hope after 8 movies.
Reboot this sickly series. They are so tame. Days Of Future Past is the one that I actually like, but everything else was mostly Teen TV fare. These characters have much more power than has ever been put on screen. Their potential has yet to be tapped by any of the directors previously involved. I will cross my fingers, but I don't have that much hope after 8 movies.
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9:05PM on 11/11/2016
Just let Disney buy the rights back, and call it a day.
Just let Disney buy the rights back, and call it a day.
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8:09AM on 11/11/2016
I suspect that Deadpool will be a trilogy and New Mutants will be followed up by X-Force.

It is understandable that Fox isn't going to green light yet another X-Men movie without a script. Singer's idea of Proteus may yet be the next movie with the First Class cast even though people are asking for Mr. Sinister, the Shiar and Phoenix.
I suspect that Deadpool will be a trilogy and New Mutants will be followed up by X-Force.

It is understandable that Fox isn't going to green light yet another X-Men movie without a script. Singer's idea of Proteus may yet be the next movie with the First Class cast even though people are asking for Mr. Sinister, the Shiar and Phoenix.
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8:02AM on 11/11/2016
Wait. They are going ahead with the next X-Men movie? New Mutants is going to start filming in six months? So when are going to hear about who the cast is? Os Patrick Stewart coming back as Professor Xavier? Is Kelsey Grammar coming back as Beast. Will we see a cameo from Ian McKellen's Magneto?
Wait. They are going ahead with the next X-Men movie? New Mutants is going to start filming in six months? So when are going to hear about who the cast is? Os Patrick Stewart coming back as Professor Xavier? Is Kelsey Grammar coming back as Beast. Will we see a cameo from Ian McKellen's Magneto?
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6:25PM on 11/10/2016
I want another entry that follows Apocalypse with the costumes, aesthetic, cast and characters from the ending of that movie. Oh, and with a heavy metal version of the cartoon theme song in the opening credits.
I want another entry that follows Apocalypse with the costumes, aesthetic, cast and characters from the ending of that movie. Oh, and with a heavy metal version of the cartoon theme song in the opening credits.
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2:46PM on 11/10/2016

Start over... Original costumes and a fresh take

The current X-Men movies have some major positives like Hugh Jackman and now Michael Fassbender, but they've also screwed up a lot of storylines, trapped themselves with weird costumes, and royally messed up the continuity and timelines. I say start over, start fresh, mix in Deadpool and X-Force too.
The current X-Men movies have some major positives like Hugh Jackman and now Michael Fassbender, but they've also screwed up a lot of storylines, trapped themselves with weird costumes, and royally messed up the continuity and timelines. I say start over, start fresh, mix in Deadpool and X-Force too.
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9:32AM on 11/10/2016
Thank god! Him and JJ Abrams are so overrated. Their films are barely proficient and watchable but in no way great directors. How they got the gigs they have escapes me.
Same goes for Joss Whedon. Age of Ultron has to be one of the worst high budget movies ever made.
Thank god! Him and JJ Abrams are so overrated. Their films are barely proficient and watchable but in no way great directors. How they got the gigs they have escapes me.
Same goes for Joss Whedon. Age of Ultron has to be one of the worst high budget movies ever made.
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9:20AM on 11/10/2016
I love Bran Singer, but it's time for the franchise to move on and do something different.
I love Bran Singer, but it's time for the franchise to move on and do something different.
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8:31AM on 11/10/2016
Yay. Singer is horrible.
Yay. Singer is horrible.
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12:40AM on 11/10/2016
For me, this is fine..

But i don't want to see Wolverine for a while in the new universe.. Cant think of a better person the portray Logan then Hugh... Think id need sometime to adjust to seeing someone else with the claws.
For me, this is fine..

But i don't want to see Wolverine for a while in the new universe.. Cant think of a better person the portray Logan then Hugh... Think id need sometime to adjust to seeing someone else with the claws.
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2:52PM on 11/10/2016
I disagree, there are a lot of talented actors out there that can play a solid Wolverine. Probably won't top Jackman, but if we get someone relatively decent and they wear the comic book costume, I think it would be different enough to make it work.
I disagree, there are a lot of talented actors out there that can play a solid Wolverine. Probably won't top Jackman, but if we get someone relatively decent and they wear the comic book costume, I think it would be different enough to make it work.
5:37PM on 11/10/2016
Don't get my wrong, I'm sure they will find a great actor to fill the roll.. just would rather them start the reboot without a Wolverine is all. Start a universe without Wolverine, and bring him in on the next film. Perhaps introduce him in a solo film, perhaps a different origin film.
Don't get my wrong, I'm sure they will find a great actor to fill the roll.. just would rather them start the reboot without a Wolverine is all. Start a universe without Wolverine, and bring him in on the next film. Perhaps introduce him in a solo film, perhaps a different origin film.
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11:34PM on 11/09/2016
Yes! Thank god!
Yes! Thank god!
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9:26PM on 11/09/2016
I think they plan to reboot it anyways. With Jackman departing his tenure as Wolverine they need to recast him and it literally will be odd to have someone else playing him in the current First Class timeline. It was easy to do with all the other cast even though there are a lot of inconsistencies. But having a different/younger actor for Wolverine wouldn't cut it. Plus they don't want to go on without their star actor and money maker Wolverine. Also, even if they don't get the team back for
I think they plan to reboot it anyways. With Jackman departing his tenure as Wolverine they need to recast him and it literally will be odd to have someone else playing him in the current First Class timeline. It was easy to do with all the other cast even though there are a lot of inconsistencies. But having a different/younger actor for Wolverine wouldn't cut it. Plus they don't want to go on without their star actor and money maker Wolverine. Also, even if they don't get the team back for another movie they have to reboot in order to keep the rights to the X-Men verse.
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9:25PM on 11/09/2016
I've enjoyed most of the X-Men but really almost every film was a reboot.
Hopefully they'll get more continuity going for the series.
I've enjoyed most of the X-Men but really almost every film was a reboot.
Hopefully they'll get more continuity going for the series.
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8:14PM on 11/09/2016

Make it more like a comic

I loved X-Men in the early 90s. The Fox cartoon was great, and I'd love to see that kind of take on X-Men in a future movie. Colorful, individual costumes would be great (which I loved seeing at the end of Apocalypse). Ultimately, I would like to see Marvel be able to connect the X-Men to the MCU, but I am kind of interested to see what Fox does now that they have showed improvement with their last few comic movies.
I loved X-Men in the early 90s. The Fox cartoon was great, and I'd love to see that kind of take on X-Men in a future movie. Colorful, individual costumes would be great (which I loved seeing at the end of Apocalypse). Ultimately, I would like to see Marvel be able to connect the X-Men to the MCU, but I am kind of interested to see what Fox does now that they have showed improvement with their last few comic movies.
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7:50PM on 11/09/2016
This is good news. They got the tone and look right in Deadpool. They need to piggyback off that movie and create a real cinematic universe. No more messed up timelines. No more charcters showing up 20 years before they are born. Just introduce and adult fully formed X-men group with the original members. Apocalypse was a complete piece of crap and really exposed Singer. Move on. This series has so much potential to make a boatload of cash, but also tell some really fun stories.
This is good news. They got the tone and look right in Deadpool. They need to piggyback off that movie and create a real cinematic universe. No more messed up timelines. No more charcters showing up 20 years before they are born. Just introduce and adult fully formed X-men group with the original members. Apocalypse was a complete piece of crap and really exposed Singer. Move on. This series has so much potential to make a boatload of cash, but also tell some really fun stories.
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7:04PM on 11/09/2016
I love the X-Men movies (except Origins) and I also think Apocalypse is the best superhero movie of 2016. Anyway in my opinion Apocalypse (and Logan probably) is the perfect closure for the Synger-Vaughn-Mangold universe. You saw the "present" adventures of the group in the first trilogy and then the prequels til the 80s. Even with it flaws the timeline is closing. A 10 years jump after Apocalypse is almost the first movie. Problems aside the 6 movies really worked for me as a whole, and I
I love the X-Men movies (except Origins) and I also think Apocalypse is the best superhero movie of 2016. Anyway in my opinion Apocalypse (and Logan probably) is the perfect closure for the Synger-Vaughn-Mangold universe. You saw the "present" adventures of the group in the first trilogy and then the prequels til the 80s. Even with it flaws the timeline is closing. A 10 years jump after Apocalypse is almost the first movie. Problems aside the 6 movies really worked for me as a whole, and I think the best option now is explore other characters (Deadpool, X-Force) and start a new X saga in 5-10 years with a new cast. And I also remember Synger saying like that, but maybe Fox convince him to stay.
Anyway... and what will happen if the R rated Wolverine movie make a huge amount of money like Deadpool. Everybody wants Wolverine R rated, so...
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8:09PM on 11/09/2016
Wouldn't that be the Singer - Ratner - Hood - Vaughn - Mangold - Miller Universe?
Wouldn't that be the Singer - Ratner - Hood - Vaughn - Mangold - Miller Universe?
12:47PM on 11/10/2016
lol sure man, but I think those three directors are the good ones!
lol sure man, but I think those three directors are the good ones!
6:46PM on 11/09/2016
Just keep the young actors, add a 1 or 2 new name to the roster and keep McAvoy as a side character. No need for Lawrence or Fassbender. Hoult would be nice, but he can easily be taken off the active X-Men roster.
Just keep the young actors, add a 1 or 2 new name to the roster and keep McAvoy as a side character. No need for Lawrence or Fassbender. Hoult would be nice, but he can easily be taken off the active X-Men roster.
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6:33PM on 11/09/2016
I love the X-Men movies, but after the first three, each sequel/prequel was some kind of a reboot as well...
No matter how good an entry was, the movie franchise was inconsistent as hell.
I love the X-Men movies, but after the first three, each sequel/prequel was some kind of a reboot as well...
No matter how good an entry was, the movie franchise was inconsistent as hell.
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5:40PM on 11/09/2016
I love the X-men series, even a little more than the MCU. X-Men Apocalypse was underrated, not as good as Days of Future Past, but seeing as that one had Wolverine and some of the other classic x-men brought back I don't think it ever stood a chance of making as much money.
I do think that it is time to close out the series though, which is fine by me. Can't say I'm too excited about a reboot so soon. There's room to do something different, but I'd be fine waiting a few years before this
I love the X-men series, even a little more than the MCU. X-Men Apocalypse was underrated, not as good as Days of Future Past, but seeing as that one had Wolverine and some of the other classic x-men brought back I don't think it ever stood a chance of making as much money.
I do think that it is time to close out the series though, which is fine by me. Can't say I'm too excited about a reboot so soon. There's room to do something different, but I'd be fine waiting a few years before this happens.
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5:29PM on 11/09/2016

It's time

Singer's franchise was important for the start of the superhero genre but now, the genre is somewhere else and needs something new. Only sad note, Jackman, Stewart and McKellen will be hard to replace. It's as strong a trio of actor as any franchise ever got, First Class included.
Singer's franchise was important for the start of the superhero genre but now, the genre is somewhere else and needs something new. Only sad note, Jackman, Stewart and McKellen will be hard to replace. It's as strong a trio of actor as any franchise ever got, First Class included.
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5:18PM on 11/09/2016
1) Are you sure APOCALYPSE's negative reception caused this? As you said, LOGAN was written as a final chapter and the contracts are fulfilled. In fact, APOCALYPSE's ending seemed to have enough closure.
2) The costumes in X-MEN 1 were necessary for audiences to understand that super-hero movies could be serious without being extremely dark (like the recent-at-the-time BLADE). As years went by, certain movies (mostly M.C.U. ones) proved that super-hero movies could be serious yet colorful and
1) Are you sure APOCALYPSE's negative reception caused this? As you said, LOGAN was written as a final chapter and the contracts are fulfilled. In fact, APOCALYPSE's ending seemed to have enough closure.
2) The costumes in X-MEN 1 were necessary for audiences to understand that super-hero movies could be serious without being extremely dark (like the recent-at-the-time BLADE). As years went by, certain movies (mostly M.C.U. ones) proved that super-hero movies could be serious yet colorful and humorous, so 1ST CLASS adapted itself to that.
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5:27PM on 11/09/2016
1) Not sure, but that was the implication in the initial report (and the fact remains it was the most expensive X-Men by a decent margin, so the lack of box-office had to be a factor even if it wasn't the main one).
2) I love the costumes in the original X-Men films (in fact may even prefer them), but at this point I'm just looking for something new, not necessarily that what came before was bad or unworthy. I still think the original two X-Men hold up well even today.
1) Not sure, but that was the implication in the initial report (and the fact remains it was the most expensive X-Men by a decent margin, so the lack of box-office had to be a factor even if it wasn't the main one).
2) I love the costumes in the original X-Men films (in fact may even prefer them), but at this point I'm just looking for something new, not necessarily that what came before was bad or unworthy. I still think the original two X-Men hold up well even today.
5:01PM on 11/09/2016
I'm one of the few who really liked Apocalypse, but I honestly don't see where they could go after it. This is one occasion where a reboot seems like a good idea. The X-Men are a universe unto themselves anyway without the greater context of the Marvel Universe. There is so much to mine from it's insane. Start with an already established team (like the first film) but make a true TEAM film. Go interstellar with it. Introduce the Brood or the Shi'ar Empire. Maybe give us the Morlocks Tell the
I'm one of the few who really liked Apocalypse, but I honestly don't see where they could go after it. This is one occasion where a reboot seems like a good idea. The X-Men are a universe unto themselves anyway without the greater context of the Marvel Universe. There is so much to mine from it's insane. Start with an already established team (like the first film) but make a true TEAM film. Go interstellar with it. Introduce the Brood or the Shi'ar Empire. Maybe give us the Morlocks Tell the Dark Phoenix Saga properly this time.
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4:46PM on 11/09/2016
I, for one, loved Apocalypse - it got an unnecessary bad rep from critics and people who just like to down stuff.

For me it doesn't need a reboot at all. Fresh people in charge, sure thing, but Apocalypse introduced all the young versions of the characters (Jean, Scott, Storm etc) so it already has its reboot essentially. There's so many characters and stories to tell. A full on reboot will just end up going over old ground in a 'new way'. Aren't we supposed to be getting Sinister now? Just
I, for one, loved Apocalypse - it got an unnecessary bad rep from critics and people who just like to down stuff.

For me it doesn't need a reboot at all. Fresh people in charge, sure thing, but Apocalypse introduced all the young versions of the characters (Jean, Scott, Storm etc) so it already has its reboot essentially. There's so many characters and stories to tell. A full on reboot will just end up going over old ground in a 'new way'. Aren't we supposed to be getting Sinister now? Just push forward. We don't need Wolverine or Mystique. Yes, ultimately we probably do need Xavier and Magneto, and IF McAvoy and co don't re-sign then that's okay - actors fitting the aged between McAvoy & Stewart would be fine (Mark Strong as the Professor for example?), but following on from Apocalypse all the same.
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9:02AM on 11/10/2016
But isn't Sinister the main bad in LOGAN ?
So the last Wolvie film would complete this story and the whole X-franchise ?
But isn't Sinister the main bad in LOGAN ?
So the last Wolvie film would complete this story and the whole X-franchise ?
3:08PM on 11/10/2016
I'm not actually sure who the villain for Logan is, but it was my understanding that the Sinister tease in Apocalypse was for both Logan AND the next X-Men film.

But as seen, Patrick Stewart is in Logan. An old, weary Stewart at that.

There are lots of adventures, with lots of characters to be seen in between Apocalyose and Logan.

(There's also no reason Sinister couldn't be in both films, in the same way Magneto has been in almost all, and William Stryker keeps popping up. I don't
I'm not actually sure who the villain for Logan is, but it was my understanding that the Sinister tease in Apocalypse was for both Logan AND the next X-Men film.

But as seen, Patrick Stewart is in Logan. An old, weary Stewart at that.

There are lots of adventures, with lots of characters to be seen in between Apocalyose and Logan.

(There's also no reason Sinister couldn't be in both films, in the same way Magneto has been in almost all, and William Stryker keeps popping up. I don't see Sinister as a character you'd need to ultimately deal with in one film)
4:41PM on 11/09/2016
Yes, this is a great idea. The better idea is to sell the rights back to Marvel and let them reboot the entire thing, but as we know the X-franchise makes Fox way too much money to consider that. Fox really needs to handle this properly and completely over haul what we've seen and what Singer has done. I'm happy with the films Singer has given us and will watch those X-Men films whenever I have a chance. But we need the stories a little closer to the comics that we all love.

We need a
Yes, this is a great idea. The better idea is to sell the rights back to Marvel and let them reboot the entire thing, but as we know the X-franchise makes Fox way too much money to consider that. Fox really needs to handle this properly and completely over haul what we've seen and what Singer has done. I'm happy with the films Singer has given us and will watch those X-Men films whenever I have a chance. But we need the stories a little closer to the comics that we all love.

We need a director with a great vision and writers to bring it all come together. We need the suits, we need Gambit, we need the Phoenix saga, new actors and some origin stories to lay the ground work down like how Marvel has handled their characters.
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2:47PM on 11/10/2016
Selling back to Marvel would be a dream come true, but it will not happen.
Selling back to Marvel would be a dream come true, but it will not happen.
4:30PM on 11/09/2016
I just hope the core four that is McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, and Hoult all stay signed on for future films and just go from there with a reboot.

But couldn't they just continue from Apocalypse and continue everyone's stories from there and just stick with the new First Class cast going forward (that is if all four return to the franchise). They have the team set up already, so why not just have Apocalypse be the starting point for this new reboot.
I just hope the core four that is McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, and Hoult all stay signed on for future films and just go from there with a reboot.

But couldn't they just continue from Apocalypse and continue everyone's stories from there and just stick with the new First Class cast going forward (that is if all four return to the franchise). They have the team set up already, so why not just have Apocalypse be the starting point for this new reboot.
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4:51PM on 11/09/2016
If it's a reboot, then it can't have the same cast.
If it's a reboot, then it can't have the same cast.
7:16PM on 11/09/2016
I meant that Apocalypse would be a good starting point for a soft reboot going forward based off the last scene with the new, young team formed in the danger room.
I meant that Apocalypse would be a good starting point for a soft reboot going forward based off the last scene with the new, young team formed in the danger room.
4:20PM on 11/09/2016

good idea

even if I will miss the original cast, I really think this franchise has arrived to the end of its course.
I think Matt Vaughn should have helmed more movies instead of Bryan Singer and maybe I would have appreciated more the last 2 entries. I hope they will give a chance to an unknown director instead of a yes man.
even if I will miss the original cast, I really think this franchise has arrived to the end of its course.
I think Matt Vaughn should have helmed more movies instead of Bryan Singer and maybe I would have appreciated more the last 2 entries. I hope they will give a chance to an unknown director instead of a yes man.
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4:16PM on 11/09/2016
I'm not so sure rebooting the series will work they basically soft rebooted it with first class and id expect the same thing to happen to this franchise that happened to the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man series if you did decide to reboot again and that's people will loose interest with oversaturation I mean hell sony had to cut a deal with marvel just to get people excited about the character again.we don't need another fox reboot do whatever you gotta do to sign hugh Jackman back on and come
I'm not so sure rebooting the series will work they basically soft rebooted it with first class and id expect the same thing to happen to this franchise that happened to the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man series if you did decide to reboot again and that's people will loose interest with oversaturation I mean hell sony had to cut a deal with marvel just to get people excited about the character again.we don't need another fox reboot do whatever you gotta do to sign hugh Jackman back on and come back with a hardcore wrath of kahn like sequel with the dark phoenix saga.then do a teamup Deadpool wolverine which would literally break the internet.if this cant be done sell the rights back to marvel and let them reboot x-men within the mcu that's the only two ways I see this actually working going forward
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4:09PM on 11/09/2016
Yay - I get my preferred option. No guarantee the reboot will be any better but it's definitely worth a shot.
Yay - I get my preferred option. No guarantee the reboot will be any better but it's definitely worth a shot.
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4:09PM on 11/09/2016

All for it

does anyone have Kinberg's email address?... I have a few hundred pages I need to send him ASAP
does anyone have Kinberg's email address?... I have a few hundred pages I need to send him ASAP
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3:53PM on 11/09/2016

Solid idea

This series had a good run but it was getting too convoluted trying to keep the same continuity. After the last film it was apparent the franchise needed a new direction as I'm sure Bryan Singer must be getting tired of X-men judging how by the numbers the last one was
This series had a good run but it was getting too convoluted trying to keep the same continuity. After the last film it was apparent the franchise needed a new direction as I'm sure Bryan Singer must be getting tired of X-men judging how by the numbers the last one was
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