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09.10.2015

Oh snap, yo!

Did you hear the latest one from Zack Snyder where he poured a nice serving of Haterade all over Marvel Studios and ANT-MAN? You really shouldn't be surprised by this, since all the negativity in this so-called rivalry only seems to be flowing one way, but I do find it a little strange that this many people over at Warner Bros. and the growing DC Cinematic Universe are so fixated on what's going on at Marvel. It'd be one thing if they were taking some sort of "We're all in this together" approach where one superhero movie doing well helps all superhero movies... but the way shots are unnecessarily taken in poor attempts to boost the DC stock is petty and childish.

I'll use Snyder's latest remarks as an example...

"It’s a tricky process, setting up the DC universe, or Justice League. The credit goes to [Batman Begins director] Chris Nolan because he set the die for the DC Universe in a great way that I tried to emulate. I look at it as more being mythological than, say, bubblegum. And I think that that’s appropriate for Batman and Superman because they’re the most mythological of our superheroes."

Bubblegum??

Okay, how about one more?

"It goes to the mythological nature of the movies that we’re making. I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavor of the week Ant-Man—not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man? "

Transcendent? Flavor of the week? Geez, man... Did ANT-MAN murder this guy's whole family or something?

Here's the thing. Snyder is still in the baby stages of the DCU, as is Warner Bros., and what they should be focusing on talking about is what makes their idea special and unique and something to see. Because you know what isn't going to rally people to your cause? Reminding them of the thing they already like. It's even worse when you try to convince people that the thing they like isn't very good, because screw that. People like what they like and don't enjoy being told how to think, so that's a losing strategy right there.

But there's another aspect of Snyder's mindset that I find to be the most problematic for him and for the vision Warner Bros. is moving ahead with on these superhero films. They have a very significant belief that Batman and Superman are far more important than they truly are. Granted, they are two of the three icons in the genre, alongside Spider-Man. Any one of those three characters are the first out of anyone's mouth when you're talking superheroes or comic books. But they're just functional characters.

People don't talk about literature or other movie characters or TV characters like this. They're seen as entertainment. They're seen as an escape. And they're treated as such... with perspective about their roles in the world. Snyder is sold on pushing these characters are something greater than thou, something serious that we should revere, and that seeps into the material. That's why you have a very divisive reaction to MAN OF STEEL. That's why you have a fair bit of skepticism to BATMAN V SUPERMAN and everything coming after it.

People have spoken with their box office dollars on what they want out of their superhero movies, and Marvel has continuously given it to them, for better or for worse. Snyder seems insistent on telling people why that's bad and why what he's got is so much better for them... and I just don't know that that's the way to keeping going.

An old friend used to tell me: "Don't worry about me. Worry about yourself." And I find there's a lot of wisdom to that. Zack Snyder should take some of it, because worrying about Marvel so much isn't doing DC any good to this point.

We'll finally get to see if Zack Snyder has something worthwhile on his hands with the release of BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE on March 25, 2016.

 

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6:54PM on 09/12/2015
Man of steel I'll admit was a HUGE letdown, it was borderline horrible, save for the awesome fight scenes, and flying sequences. But the story could have been fleshed out so more,. I heard in an early draft of the screenplay that he was a [link] and he was covering rebel wars in some country in Africa, that scene would have been amazing, we see him just take out 50 rebels and saves a village from getting raped and burned down. They should have started small and should have tried to emulate the
Man of steel I'll admit was a HUGE letdown, it was borderline horrible, save for the awesome fight scenes, and flying sequences. But the story could have been fleshed out so more,. I heard in an early draft of the screenplay that he was a [link] and he was covering rebel wars in some country in Africa, that scene would have been amazing, we see him just take out 50 rebels and saves a village from getting raped and burned down. They should have started small and should have tried to emulate the tone of "Unbreakable", would have been much mor effective, the whole fire on the boat scene was horrible, horrible CGI, just probably the worst way to introduce the most iconic superhero of all time.

P.S-----Batman Vs Superman, theirs one thing I can count on Zack for that movie is that the fight scenes will be absolutely stunning, the story he has to play with sounds amazing, he can't go wrong with this.
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11:44AM on 09/12/2015

Calm down

Yes, 300 was good not great, yes, man of steel was underwhelming, but Batman Vs Superman is gonna destroy ANY MARVEL MOVIE EVER MADE, I'm sorry to all the marvel dong suckers on this site, but with this, followed by Suicide Squad is gonna change the game, although Marvel can turn it around if they do Dr. Strange properly, as in make it as messed up as possible
p.s Takashi Mike should direct a marvel movie
Yes, 300 was good not great, yes, man of steel was underwhelming, but Batman Vs Superman is gonna destroy ANY MARVEL MOVIE EVER MADE, I'm sorry to all the marvel dong suckers on this site, but with this, followed by Suicide Squad is gonna change the game, although Marvel can turn it around if they do Dr. Strange properly, as in make it as messed up as possible
p.s Takashi Mike should direct a marvel movie
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3:50PM on 09/12/2015
Actually I thought The Watchmen was a fantastic movie and I thought 300 was good. But to comment on a fairly successful run of movies by Marvel ( Im not a fan boy although I have enjoyed some of the films) and describe one of them as bland I think is either really laughable or an extremely douchey move by Snyder. Man Of Steel ruined the Superman mythology,so what right has Zack got to call films like Ant Man 'bland'? Man Of Stool was soooooo boring I wondered if I actually was watching Stool.
Actually I thought The Watchmen was a fantastic movie and I thought 300 was good. But to comment on a fairly successful run of movies by Marvel ( Im not a fan boy although I have enjoyed some of the films) and describe one of them as bland I think is either really laughable or an extremely douchey move by Snyder. Man Of Steel ruined the Superman mythology,so what right has Zack got to call films like Ant Man 'bland'? Man Of Stool was soooooo boring I wondered if I actually was watching Stool.
7:52PM on 09/11/2015
Blank man? Did he not watch his own movie. I was bored man after watching it. Sorry Zack but you should not be laying down the law on superhero movies.
Blank man? Did he not watch his own movie. I was bored man after watching it. Sorry Zack but you should not be laying down the law on superhero movies.
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8:45PM on 09/11/2015
Ha. Bored Man.
Ha. Bored Man.
1:53PM on 09/11/2015
OMG, it's Uwe Boll all over again trashing others to pimp his shitty films. Man of Steel sucked, Sucker Punch sucked, Watchmen was mediocre, and 300 was pure bubblegum nonsense. Snyder is just a bad filmmaker, and that ego of his is almost as unintentionally hilarious as Man of Steel.
OMG, it's Uwe Boll all over again trashing others to pimp his shitty films. Man of Steel sucked, Sucker Punch sucked, Watchmen was mediocre, and 300 was pure bubblegum nonsense. Snyder is just a bad filmmaker, and that ego of his is almost as unintentionally hilarious as Man of Steel.
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12:18PM on 09/11/2015

Too bad Man of Steel was Garbage bro

The Marvel movies may be live action cartoons, but at least they don't contain hour long stretches of exposition and disappointing action scenes. The marvel films had a huge advantage, they were able to take their time to develop their universe. DC seems to be rushing to catch up, they should worry less about the competition and making as much money as possible in the immediate and take their time to make something of quality.
The Marvel movies may be live action cartoons, but at least they don't contain hour long stretches of exposition and disappointing action scenes. The marvel films had a huge advantage, they were able to take their time to develop their universe. DC seems to be rushing to catch up, they should worry less about the competition and making as much money as possible in the immediate and take their time to make something of quality.
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9:47AM on 09/11/2015

sore loser

people start trashing talking when they know they are losing or can't measure up to their opponent.
people start trashing talking when they know they are losing or can't measure up to their opponent.
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1:00AM on 09/11/2015

All talk no action

And all this coming from the guy who made Sucker Punch? He is really lucky to have Chris Nolan's legacy or 'die' which he is "trying to emulate" (read copy), drop right into his lap. What exactly has he brought to the table with MoS? I sincerely hope his future movies are not shitty as his comments.
And all this coming from the guy who made Sucker Punch? He is really lucky to have Chris Nolan's legacy or 'die' which he is "trying to emulate" (read copy), drop right into his lap. What exactly has he brought to the table with MoS? I sincerely hope his future movies are not shitty as his comments.
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11:55PM on 09/10/2015

snyder is right though.

i don't know the whole context of his comment but it doesn't seem like a true honest diss against Marvel. he's just comparing the significance of Batman and Superman against Ant-Man (hell even Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor). Batman and Superman are the A-1 top tier names (along with Spider-Man). they're the characters that EVERYONE knows/has known for decades. there's no arguing that. not to say Batman and Superman can't be bubblegum (West? Reeves?) but he's saying that in this day in age
i don't know the whole context of his comment but it doesn't seem like a true honest diss against Marvel. he's just comparing the significance of Batman and Superman against Ant-Man (hell even Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor). Batman and Superman are the A-1 top tier names (along with Spider-Man). they're the characters that EVERYONE knows/has known for decades. there's no arguing that. not to say Batman and Superman can't be bubblegum (West? Reeves?) but he's saying that in this day in age when there are so many comic book heroes out there now in the public consciousness, you gotta treat the top tier guys with respect and take it seriously. and in that way, i can see his point. but also, fuck zack snyder,
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11:15PM on 09/10/2015
Wow, he must hate Ant-Man a lot. Sure, it's not as serious as Batman or Superman but it's a light-hearted action / superhero movie. Lighten up, Mr. Snyder!
Wow, he must hate Ant-Man a lot. Sure, it's not as serious as Batman or Superman but it's a light-hearted action / superhero movie. Lighten up, Mr. Snyder!
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11:04PM on 09/10/2015

Whoa bro if you don't get comics don't write articles about em

Seriously if you don't understand the cultural and worldwide importance and influence of superman and batman you shouldn't be writing articles defacing comments to that nature. Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen a rally in some third world country with a child, or man, woman, wearing a spiderman, or iron man or hell - captain america shirt - no! Superman is a symbol that has evolved to become something far beyond its original medium. Seriously this is one of the poorest written and
Seriously if you don't understand the cultural and worldwide importance and influence of superman and batman you shouldn't be writing articles defacing comments to that nature. Let me ask you something. Have you ever seen a rally in some third world country with a child, or man, woman, wearing a spiderman, or iron man or hell - captain america shirt - no! Superman is a symbol that has evolved to become something far beyond its original medium. Seriously this is one of the poorest written and researched articles on JOBLO I have read in some time. To put them down because they are fictional characters. How many memorable films, spanning decades have been focused on "Real" characters. This is a website celebrating the creativity of the fictional. And within that universe. There is no character more well known than superman. To say that Marvel is comic book movies and Superman and Batman are a mythos that has become something beyond the genre is a fair and for my two cents... quite accurate statement. If you the writer of this article do not understand the significance of superman being one of the top five most recognizable symbols in the world... then you don't understand, period. The single worst point of view on a comic book film ever posted on this website. For shame guys.
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11:14PM on 09/10/2015
That's quite the rant.
That's quite the rant.
12:15PM on 09/11/2015
I don't disagree that Batman and Superman have greater known symbols, hell I even keep a Batman 3-3/4 figure with my Marvel 3-3/4 figs. Batman is easily one of my fav superheros which is why gargling marbles Christain Bale was terrible as Batman and even worse as John Connor (where he also uses his Batman voice)
The issue isn't "What's mythology and what's comic book movie" the issue is he's still being a jerk about it. Let BVS speak for itself, not him bashing Marvel for their work. Ant-man
I don't disagree that Batman and Superman have greater known symbols, hell I even keep a Batman 3-3/4 figure with my Marvel 3-3/4 figs. Batman is easily one of my fav superheros which is why gargling marbles Christain Bale was terrible as Batman and even worse as John Connor (where he also uses his Batman voice)
The issue isn't "What's mythology and what's comic book movie" the issue is he's still being a jerk about it. Let BVS speak for itself, not him bashing Marvel for their work. Ant-man may not be well known, nor is Luke Cage or Jessica Jones, but they are getting a Netflix opportunity too.
Just because the top tier heros are very well known does not mean the unknowns don't deserve respect too.
1:20PM on 09/11/2015
This isn't about comics. This is about how one person clearly sees their films as having more weight or importance than that of a competitors' within the same genre.

I'm also not sure where you can classify this as "poorly written." Are there misspellings? Poor grammar? Bad sentence structure?

Just because you may not agree with my thoughts, which is fine, does not make this poorly written. It just makes it another viewpoint tossed into the discussion we're all having right now. Nothing
This isn't about comics. This is about how one person clearly sees their films as having more weight or importance than that of a competitors' within the same genre.

I'm also not sure where you can classify this as "poorly written." Are there misspellings? Poor grammar? Bad sentence structure?

Just because you may not agree with my thoughts, which is fine, does not make this poorly written. It just makes it another viewpoint tossed into the discussion we're all having right now. Nothing wrong with that.
9:35PM on 09/10/2015
Damon Wayans and David Alan Grier should be pissed that Snyder is dissing their Blankman movie.
Ok, I get the whole DC vs Marvel, similar to Xbox vs PS, but it's so meaningless. Why jab at each other? The last thing Snyder needs is people NOT seeing BVS because of his comments. You want to get people interested in your universe, don't trash talk the competition. Don't like Ant-man, fine. You don't need to bash it to promote your movie. Your trailers should do that for you. The producers and
Damon Wayans and David Alan Grier should be pissed that Snyder is dissing their Blankman movie.
Ok, I get the whole DC vs Marvel, similar to Xbox vs PS, but it's so meaningless. Why jab at each other? The last thing Snyder needs is people NOT seeing BVS because of his comments. You want to get people interested in your universe, don't trash talk the competition. Don't like Ant-man, fine. You don't need to bash it to promote your movie. Your trailers should do that for you. The producers and director of Fantastic Four kept bashing the fans for their comments and look what happened. Even the director ended up bashing his own film. However, the trailer did in fact make the film look entertaining. So, sometimes being a douche to advertise your shit, not the greatest PR approach.
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1:48AM on 09/11/2015
Nobody disses Blankman and walks away scott free. I mean, say what you will about Ant-Man, but do not piss on the colt mythology of Blankman. The attention to story and acting in that film far outweighs anything this Snyder character has bestowed on the planet.
Nobody disses Blankman and walks away scott free. I mean, say what you will about Ant-Man, but do not piss on the colt mythology of Blankman. The attention to story and acting in that film far outweighs anything this Snyder character has bestowed on the planet.
9:12PM on 09/10/2015

Maybe when Snyder acutally makes a good superhero film

his opinions on superhero films will start to be relevant.
his opinions on superhero films will start to be relevant.
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8:48PM on 09/10/2015
You don't get much more mindless bubblegum than Man of Steel. Man of Steel was emo Transformers.

It's sad how much this guy keeps trying to ride Nolan's coat tails.
You don't get much more mindless bubblegum than Man of Steel. Man of Steel was emo Transformers.

It's sad how much this guy keeps trying to ride Nolan's coat tails.
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8:42PM on 09/10/2015

Fuck Snyder

Seriously the guy is so fucking overrated...dude is a tool any director with a big budget for cgi and explosions could make his movies...he can't tell a story for shit.
Seriously the guy is so fucking overrated...dude is a tool any director with a big budget for cgi and explosions could make his movies...he can't tell a story for shit.
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7:27PM on 09/10/2015
Holy shit dude, who hired this writer? Just report the damn story, there was no need to go on a fanboy rant towards the end, totally unprofessional.
Holy shit dude, who hired this writer? Just report the damn story, there was no need to go on a fanboy rant towards the end, totally unprofessional.
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9:52PM on 09/10/2015
Thought the exact same thing. Very annoying article.
Thought the exact same thing. Very annoying article.
1:24AM on 09/11/2015
The great thing about this site is that the articles are written by fans and not just reporting the same shit as every other site. It's too bad you don't see it, especially since it's been said multiple times.
The great thing about this site is that the articles are written by fans and not just reporting the same shit as every other site. It's too bad you don't see it, especially since it's been said multiple times.
3:12AM on 09/11/2015
Fans are the main problem in movie journalism.As a reader,I'm interested by a fact and if I wanna take a look at comments,that my choice.But when a fan is writing an article about something that upsets him, well that becomes very annoying.So yes,report the goddam fact!By the way,this all DC/Marvel war looks pretty childish to me.
Fans are the main problem in movie journalism.As a reader,I'm interested by a fact and if I wanna take a look at comments,that my choice.But when a fan is writing an article about something that upsets him, well that becomes very annoying.So yes,report the goddam fact!By the way,this all DC/Marvel war looks pretty childish to me.
1:17PM on 09/11/2015
It's unprofessional to exhibit an opinion on the material or attempt to put it into context within the industry, as well as within superhero films? Hmmm... I'm curious what you find to be professional then, outside of very vanilla, bland, regurgitated writing.
It's unprofessional to exhibit an opinion on the material or attempt to put it into context within the industry, as well as within superhero films? Hmmm... I'm curious what you find to be professional then, outside of very vanilla, bland, regurgitated writing.
7:17PM on 09/10/2015
Most of the Marvel movies have been kinda bubblegum, so I get what Snyder's saying, but there's nothing wrong with comicbook movies being fairly light, entertaining fayre. Hell, I enjoyed Ant-Man because it was a fun sci -fantasy romp. If Snyder thinks he can offer something greater with more substance then I look forward to seeing it. Man Of Steel was a good start, so let's see if Batman V Superman can build upon that. I hope he does a great job.
Most of the Marvel movies have been kinda bubblegum, so I get what Snyder's saying, but there's nothing wrong with comicbook movies being fairly light, entertaining fayre. Hell, I enjoyed Ant-Man because it was a fun sci -fantasy romp. If Snyder thinks he can offer something greater with more substance then I look forward to seeing it. Man Of Steel was a good start, so let's see if Batman V Superman can build upon that. I hope he does a great job.
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6:56PM on 09/10/2015

Blown out of proportion

I totally get what he means, and it doesn't sound like much of an insult. If Mendes said something similar, comparing Bond to Man from UNCLE, he'd be right. Bond is the definitive version of a spy hero for the majority, whereas UNCLE is less known. Same thing comparing Batman to Antman.
Man of Steel was just an ok movie, but it felt like it was aiming for something higher. Some of the marvel films just feel like another step in a bigger plan. Whether the DCU matches the MCU remains to be seen.
I totally get what he means, and it doesn't sound like much of an insult. If Mendes said something similar, comparing Bond to Man from UNCLE, he'd be right. Bond is the definitive version of a spy hero for the majority, whereas UNCLE is less known. Same thing comparing Batman to Antman.
Man of Steel was just an ok movie, but it felt like it was aiming for something higher. Some of the marvel films just feel like another step in a bigger plan. Whether the DCU matches the MCU remains to be seen.
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6:14PM on 09/10/2015
That was it? Not much of a dig
That was it? Not much of a dig
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5:41PM on 09/10/2015
Given the nonsense that was Green Lantern (granted not part of the DCU) and the firmly 50/50 position I'm fixed on with regard to MoS, I really think he...or WB's should concentrate on giving us at least one movie that knocks it out of the park first before they start picking fights with the established star pupil of the class. Don't get me wrong, there's still some key issues the MCU can improve upon (a great deal) and I really hope the DCU is a success but give me something to truly embrace
Given the nonsense that was Green Lantern (granted not part of the DCU) and the firmly 50/50 position I'm fixed on with regard to MoS, I really think he...or WB's should concentrate on giving us at least one movie that knocks it out of the park first before they start picking fights with the established star pupil of the class. Don't get me wrong, there's still some key issues the MCU can improve upon (a great deal) and I really hope the DCU is a success but give me something to truly embrace before you start declaring some kind of higher ground on whose got the better goods. Oh, and I really did enjoy Ant Man...and it seems so did many others.
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5:41PM on 09/10/2015
Incidentally, such is Marvel's progress with developing their main characters, they've given themselves a platform to give us a GotG or an Ant Man.
Incidentally, such is Marvel's progress with developing their main characters, they've given themselves a platform to give us a GotG or an Ant Man.
5:40PM on 09/10/2015

Well

Ant-man is lame as fuck. So he got a point. But Come on now lets face facts the superman and batman movies weren't all that good either. Man of steel I'll admit was an entertaining film. Zack go back to making horror, and movies like sucker punch.
Ant-man is lame as fuck. So he got a point. But Come on now lets face facts the superman and batman movies weren't all that good either. Man of steel I'll admit was an entertaining film. Zack go back to making horror, and movies like sucker punch.
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4:59PM on 09/10/2015

Nolan set the die.....?

Here's some news for you. What Nolan did for his Batman trilogy was great. Really worked. Spot on.
The only thing is that his universe has absolutely nothing to do with yours. Praise him all you want but you are going to have to come up with the goods. Going Superman sequel to Dawn of the Justice League to MORE BATMAN makes you look more like someones bitch.
Say what you want about Marvel. Call them popcorn fluff if you want but people flock to see them. They create diversity with the style
Here's some news for you. What Nolan did for his Batman trilogy was great. Really worked. Spot on.
The only thing is that his universe has absolutely nothing to do with yours. Praise him all you want but you are going to have to come up with the goods. Going Superman sequel to Dawn of the Justice League to MORE BATMAN makes you look more like someones bitch.
Say what you want about Marvel. Call them popcorn fluff if you want but people flock to see them. They create diversity with the style of story. Espionage, heist, you name it, but they don't lack in entertainment.
Bums on seats, Snyder. We will see if you will have kids through to adults entertained.
Side note? I preview all films I bring my daughter to see before I bring her. I thought Man of Steel wasn't right for her. Not because of the violence. I didn't think she would get it. Never had to do that with a Marvel film.
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4:50PM on 09/10/2015
That's interesting, considering how there wouldn't be a DCCU (and therefore, MAN OF STEEL and BATMAN V SUPERMAN) without the MCU.

It's not that ANT-MAN the character is the flavor of the week, but his movie and a lot of the movies in the MCU are chapters that set up something else.
That's interesting, considering how there wouldn't be a DCCU (and therefore, MAN OF STEEL and BATMAN V SUPERMAN) without the MCU.

It's not that ANT-MAN the character is the flavor of the week, but his movie and a lot of the movies in the MCU are chapters that set up something else.
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4:46PM on 09/10/2015

Completely unnecessary.

I get why WB doesn't like Marvel - the way they developed their cinematic universe made them look pretty bad considering how long they owned the DC universe - but this has nothing to do with Snyder. He's not competing with Ant-Man and there's no reason for him to take a shot at that film.
I get why WB doesn't like Marvel - the way they developed their cinematic universe made them look pretty bad considering how long they owned the DC universe - but this has nothing to do with Snyder. He's not competing with Ant-Man and there's no reason for him to take a shot at that film.
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4:35PM on 09/10/2015

I'm giving this red for the crybaby article

I know we're not supposed to speak ill of the hallowed writers for fear the Joblo.com death squads will eradicate our existence, but I'll risk it to say this is an intensely stupid, preachy and overly-long reaction to a pretty benign comment. Plus, no one gives a shit about Ant-Man. And in closing, a little competition among filmmakers is actually good for film fans.
I know we're not supposed to speak ill of the hallowed writers for fear the Joblo.com death squads will eradicate our existence, but I'll risk it to say this is an intensely stupid, preachy and overly-long reaction to a pretty benign comment. Plus, no one gives a shit about Ant-Man. And in closing, a little competition among filmmakers is actually good for film fans.
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5:06PM on 09/10/2015
No offense taken here, sir.

We may have a difference of opinions. Just trying to put in perspective Snyder's tactic of tearing someone else down (someone incredibly established and popular at this point, in order to make themselves look like they're doing something of far greater importance and substance.

No crying here at all, man. I hope BVS turns out fantastic. Just not a fan of the approach to trying to promote it.
No offense taken here, sir.

We may have a difference of opinions. Just trying to put in perspective Snyder's tactic of tearing someone else down (someone incredibly established and popular at this point, in order to make themselves look like they're doing something of far greater importance and substance.

No crying here at all, man. I hope BVS turns out fantastic. Just not a fan of the approach to trying to promote it.
5:13PM on 09/10/2015
I didn't think this was a crybaby article, but I know that your comment was a crybaby comment, Darth Jeff
I didn't think this was a crybaby article, but I know that your comment was a crybaby comment, Darth Jeff
7:37PM on 09/10/2015
Good response. I wish you well here, InfamousKidd. I enjoy the opinion in articles on the site, just thought you could have kept it tighter.

@Bob_Law - piss off.
Good response. I wish you well here, InfamousKidd. I enjoy the opinion in articles on the site, just thought you could have kept it tighter.

@Bob_Law - piss off.
9:40PM on 09/10/2015
I was just stating a fact, dude.
I was just stating a fact, dude.
4:14PM on 09/10/2015
Relax fanboy, nothing says the "bubblegum" comment was aimed at Marvel. And face it, Ant-Man really was an obscure character to most people... I mean, unlike Batman or Superman, it's not like your mom or your sister would know him.

And come on, Marvel movies ARE bubblegum. They're dumbed down for 10 year old boys unlike Nolan's films, I think that's what he meant.
Relax fanboy, nothing says the "bubblegum" comment was aimed at Marvel. And face it, Ant-Man really was an obscure character to most people... I mean, unlike Batman or Superman, it's not like your mom or your sister would know him.

And come on, Marvel movies ARE bubblegum. They're dumbed down for 10 year old boys unlike Nolan's films, I think that's what he meant.
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5:08PM on 09/10/2015
Of course it was aimed at Marvel and not in a positive way. Let's not be naive.

Nothing fanboy-ish here at all. Hope both Universe continue to do well. I'm not on either's side. Just don't see the point in knocking the other simply because you're taking a different approach.
Of course it was aimed at Marvel and not in a positive way. Let's not be naive.

Nothing fanboy-ish here at all. Hope both Universe continue to do well. I'm not on either's side. Just don't see the point in knocking the other simply because you're taking a different approach.
4:10PM on 09/10/2015
I'll give Snyder this, he's very good at making glossy, mythologizing movies, where the camera lingers on characters and romanticizes them. The thing that annoys me though is how serious he takes it. Just because something looks cool doesn't always mean it's engaging on a deeper level. What Marvel got right was they made us care about their characters. He shouldn't take for granted that Batman and Superman are beloved characters. He should be trying to figure out how to make us care about THESE
I'll give Snyder this, he's very good at making glossy, mythologizing movies, where the camera lingers on characters and romanticizes them. The thing that annoys me though is how serious he takes it. Just because something looks cool doesn't always mean it's engaging on a deeper level. What Marvel got right was they made us care about their characters. He shouldn't take for granted that Batman and Superman are beloved characters. He should be trying to figure out how to make us care about THESE versions of them.
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4:04PM on 09/10/2015
And the overreaction award goes to...the writer of this article.
And the overreaction award goes to...the writer of this article.
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4:16PM on 09/10/2015
Damn right!
Damn right!
4:36PM on 09/10/2015
I feel wronged for having to wade through this psychoanalysis of Snyder. Who gives a fuck?
I feel wronged for having to wade through this psychoanalysis of Snyder. Who gives a fuck?
1:22PM on 09/11/2015
No overreaction whatsoever. Just trying to frame the comments with some context.

I have no dog in this fight on either side. I'd like for both studios to make solid superhero movies for us all to enjoy.
No overreaction whatsoever. Just trying to frame the comments with some context.

I have no dog in this fight on either side. I'd like for both studios to make solid superhero movies for us all to enjoy.
4:07PM on 09/11/2015
Really? Because you seemed pretty worked up over Snyder's comments.
Really? Because you seemed pretty worked up over Snyder's comments.
5:58PM on 09/11/2015
Not worked up over anything. It's called "taking a stance" or "having an opinion."
Not worked up over anything. It's called "taking a stance" or "having an opinion."
7:51PM on 09/11/2015
Your opinion seemed a bit dramatic, especially since some stupid comments by Snyder, (which were barely even barbs btw) somehow warranted several paragraphs in response. Also, how is this even really news or deserving of a story? Maybe if Snyder said that Marvel sucked outright, or something more nasty it would be more interesting, but he didn't. It was a flick of the ear, not a jab.
Your opinion seemed a bit dramatic, especially since some stupid comments by Snyder, (which were barely even barbs btw) somehow warranted several paragraphs in response. Also, how is this even really news or deserving of a story? Maybe if Snyder said that Marvel sucked outright, or something more nasty it would be more interesting, but he didn't. It was a flick of the ear, not a jab.
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3:59PM on 09/10/2015

Easy there...

The die Nolan casted was for BATMAN. Not for the whole DC universe. Your whole one-note DARKNESS thing for DC is so wrong, tired, and boring I don't even know where to begin. When you've had the success that Marvel has had, then you can critique, until then shut up or put up.
The die Nolan casted was for BATMAN. Not for the whole DC universe. Your whole one-note DARKNESS thing for DC is so wrong, tired, and boring I don't even know where to begin. When you've had the success that Marvel has had, then you can critique, until then shut up or put up.
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3:52PM on 09/10/2015
I have a lot of respect for Snyder and for everything he has done so far for the DCCU, but it's kind of bad taste in talking shit about Marvel and their successful run of films. It's one thing for Snyder and anyone else apart of DC to defend the Justice League brand and characters, but to purposely call out Marvel and their films is just dumb. I can only hope that DC can follow Marvel in having a successful and grand comic book universe with a coherent storyline throughout several and many
I have a lot of respect for Snyder and for everything he has done so far for the DCCU, but it's kind of bad taste in talking shit about Marvel and their successful run of films. It's one thing for Snyder and anyone else apart of DC to defend the Justice League brand and characters, but to purposely call out Marvel and their films is just dumb. I can only hope that DC can follow Marvel in having a successful and grand comic book universe with a coherent storyline throughout several and many films.

Man of Steel was a great starting point and Dawn of Justice, and Suicide Squad look to be just as great. Let Snyder and his team deliver something unique, fresh, and different in their own DCCU form than just focusing on what Marvel is doing.
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3:50PM on 09/10/2015
Who is the next Blankman? Damon Wayans will always be the definitive Blankman.
Who is the next Blankman? Damon Wayans will always be the definitive Blankman.
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3:42PM on 09/10/2015
Snyder (and Nolan) really seem to have a huge ego problem. They always come off as better than thou in most interview they do.
Snyder (and Nolan) really seem to have a huge ego problem. They always come off as better than thou in most interview they do.
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3:40PM on 09/10/2015
Classy guy that Zack Snyder, lol. Oh well, I'm more interested in Deadpool and Civil War than in his stuff anyway. Great article though, good job Billy.
Classy guy that Zack Snyder, lol. Oh well, I'm more interested in Deadpool and Civil War than in his stuff anyway. Great article though, good job Billy.
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5:13PM on 09/10/2015
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, sir.
3:31PM on 09/10/2015

Not that I'm on one side or another but...

He really shouldn't be talking when the depths of his super hero movie are to destroy everything in sight with CGI. Let's see him make something good before bashing ant-man or anything else.
He really shouldn't be talking when the depths of his super hero movie are to destroy everything in sight with CGI. Let's see him make something good before bashing ant-man or anything else.
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8:32AM on 09/12/2015
Something Good: 300, Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen.
Something Good: 300, Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen.
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