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Superman will go global in the next movie and David Goyer on the massive collateral damage in Man of Steel

Jun. 17, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

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MAN OF STEEL had a huge opening weekend (even if it wasn't loved by every critic) and Warner Bros. must be pretty happy with how well it has performed so far. Granted the movie has some solid competition coming up and it'll be interesting to see if the film has some legs to it but so far it looks like MAN OF STEEL is a big hit.

Which of course means there's going to be plenty of rumors and speculations coming up about a sequel and JUSTICE LEAGUE. The Wall Street Journal is already reporting that a knowledgeable source has told them that a sequel to MAN OF STEEL could be in theaters as fast as next year and JUSTICE LEAGUE might be out in 2015.

But lets focus on sequel news that actually involves someone in the film, like director Zack Snyder. In an interview on BBC Radio 4 Film Programme (transcriptions courtesy of Bleeding Cool) Snyder said that while Superman is very much an American character because of how powerful he is he can't just protect Americans and that would be explored in the sequel:

Francine Stock: I’ll tell you something about General Zod. General Zod gets gloablisation, doesn’t he? Because when he arrives on Earth he sends out his message in all the languages of the world, so it is a sort of United Colours of Benetton kind of thing, “It’s all over” … but Superman, he’s just for America.

Zack Snyder: Yeah. 100%… that was always a thing that would be in the evolution of Superman. He has no choice but to become global.

FS: That would be the sequel.

ZS: Knock on wood. That literally has to happen. But for me I was really interested in – and maybe it’s because Barack Obama’s president now – it’s okay for Superman to be American. He’s quintessentially an American creature and creation. I wanted to pay homage to the superhero as coming from the heartland of America, and the “Why?” of that. I was really interested in just how American he was, and I think in the best possible way, the Kevin Costner cornfield kind of way. Which is why I really wanted Kevin and Diane Lane to play those parts [Ma and Pa Kent] because they really represent a believable America but an America that is also… we do it in the most realistic way we can but still all of the icons are very much represented in a way that I don’t know exists for real. But you want it to. Like a Norman Rockwell documentary… handheld Norman Rockwell.

It makes sense to me and it seems like a logical step forwards for the sequel. Superman loves the country he was raised in but he is Earth's protector and not just America's bodyguard. I wonder if Superman and American politicians will end up clashing over different principles and values in the sequel besides diving deeper into how the character is viewed on a global scale.

A lot of people have been critical about the level of destruction in MAN OF STEEL and how there would be a lot of innocent people dead because of a fist fight between two Gods. It's a fair argument but in an interview with Bleeding Cool writer David Goyer says that he expected some fans to be upset with the collateral damage and discussed why he felt it was necessary:

One of the things we were hoping to depict is that Superman is not a god. We say he’s a god-like figure but he’s not omnipotent. Even in the comic books he cannot save everyone. I think people die [in Metropolis]. Clearly hundreds if not thousands of people have died while the gravity machines are going off. There were probably even people who died in Smallville.

When you’re dealing with a threat like this, there will be collateral damage. This is something that hadn’t been depicted in comic book films is what it would be like if these powerful figures did clash, if The Hulk and Thor fought, people would probably die. Particularly in this case where Zod and the Kryptonians really don’t care if people die. I think people died and I’m sure that upsets some people.

We knew that people would be upset by some of the choices we make. We got some grief when we did Batman Begins. Now people think what we did was great but when Batman Begins first came out, people were upset by some of the choices we made.

While it doesn't bother me I can see why fans might not be happy with the loss of innocent lives. I do think that there's a very good chance that it'll be further explored in the sequels especially if a certain Mr. Lex Luthor isn't happy about the destruction of his city.

Speaking of collateral damage check out this video of what it would be like if Superman actually punched you. Spoiler: it doesn't end well.

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2:01PM on 06/18/2013

Zod is allowed to destroy thousands, but the superhero added to it during fights

I'm not at all upset that thousands of people we're killed by Zod. He's a diabolical villain, what's the point of having an evil villain if they don't do acts of inhuman cruelty. What I did not stand for was Superman's neglect of the unarmed civilians around him in Smallville and the people in the streets and buildings in Metropolis. He may be god like, but Superman is protector of people of Earth, doesn't help we see people in these buildings that he carelessly damages. Damages which include
I'm not at all upset that thousands of people we're killed by Zod. He's a diabolical villain, what's the point of having an evil villain if they don't do acts of inhuman cruelty. What I did not stand for was Superman's neglect of the unarmed civilians around him in Smallville and the people in the streets and buildings in Metropolis. He may be god like, but Superman is protector of people of Earth, doesn't help we see people in these buildings that he carelessly damages. Damages which include collapsing buildings and explosions. Superman's number one objective is to protect humans from harm. In "Man of Steel" he causes a lot of damage in populated areas. They may not show people dying by Superman's impulses to fight, but when they show people go inside buildings which are then moments later heavily damage by Superman crashing into them or by throwing the villains into them.
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1:24PM on 06/18/2013

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Brainiac as villian with Benedict Cumberbatch as Lex Luthor.
Brainiac as villian with Benedict Cumberbatch as Lex Luthor.
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11:03AM on 06/18/2013
What I would love from a sequel is to have Aquaman as the main villian with his atlantis army. Throw alitt le lex in there it could be epic. But I know I know this would never happen haha. It would also be awesome to see supes duke it out with Lobo in live action.
What I would love from a sequel is to have Aquaman as the main villian with his atlantis army. Throw alitt le lex in there it could be epic. But I know I know this would never happen haha. It would also be awesome to see supes duke it out with Lobo in live action.
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9:28AM on 06/18/2013

confused

why have all the kids who love the marvel films made a point out of the collateral damage at the end of this movie?
what about their own beloved avengers movie? was there no collateral damamge in that movie?
why have all the kids who love the marvel films made a point out of the collateral damage at the end of this movie?
what about their own beloved avengers movie? was there no collateral damamge in that movie?
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9:54AM on 06/18/2013
It also bothered me in the Avengers movie too... but in their defense there are several deleted scenes that make that movie far more darker than the version we were finally presented with - a couple scenes that showcase a character's dislike/great concerns at what went down. As it is, the movie we're presented with is an over the top comic book... light hearted and fun. Man of Steel differs from the Avengers because it tries to put a realistic spin on things...a darker and more serious take.
It also bothered me in the Avengers movie too... but in their defense there are several deleted scenes that make that movie far more darker than the version we were finally presented with - a couple scenes that showcase a character's dislike/great concerns at what went down. As it is, the movie we're presented with is an over the top comic book... light hearted and fun. Man of Steel differs from the Avengers because it tries to put a realistic spin on things...a darker and more serious take. If Man of Steel has deleted scenes that showcase his attempts at trying to move the fight away from the general public or his guilt at the loss of life... or his guilt at being responsible for Zod and co showing up in the first place ...I'll reconsider my views on the movie.
9:16PM on 06/18/2013
As I recall, multiple occasions in the Avengers where the dialogue tries to at least show you them trying to take fight out of the civilians path. Does the Captain America scene where he is directing police to barricade streets off tell you anything, or iron man directing the flow of chitauri away from the people? Didn't Superman have like 11 people to take down, how many did the Avengers have? Too many to count.
As I recall, multiple occasions in the Avengers where the dialogue tries to at least show you them trying to take fight out of the civilians path. Does the Captain America scene where he is directing police to barricade streets off tell you anything, or iron man directing the flow of chitauri away from the people? Didn't Superman have like 11 people to take down, how many did the Avengers have? Too many to count.
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5:47AM on 06/18/2013
I do not have a problem with innocent people being killed during an alien invasion - I have a problem with Superman not making an effort to move one on one fights with certain people to more secluded areas - why not repetitive punch Zod to Alaska or an abandoned building site or when the fight went down in Smallville - take it away from the town centre to a cornfield. Sure, he's new at this - but the film drilled home the idea that Pa Kent had taught Clark - think before you act - do the
I do not have a problem with innocent people being killed during an alien invasion - I have a problem with Superman not making an effort to move one on one fights with certain people to more secluded areas - why not repetitive punch Zod to Alaska or an abandoned building site or when the fight went down in Smallville - take it away from the town centre to a cornfield. Sure, he's new at this - but the film drilled home the idea that Pa Kent had taught Clark - think before you act - do the right thing at all costs. If it was difficult for Supes to move the fight away at least show us him trying to do this or saying something to this effect. I said in a post yesterday that in Superman 2, during the Metropolis battle, Superman voices his concerns during battle about the safety of the humans and then flies away when he knows he cannot beat Zod and co as the fighting only endangers the civilians.

I would love if the part 2 explores the anger certain people will have about what went down in the first movie - slowly setting up the kind of thing we saw in JL Unlimited with the human race having great misgivings over the JL and their station, up in space... looking down on them.

I think Snyder and co were so caught up in giving us what we wanted... that little things that would make a big difference were missed. Anyone wonder why Supes at the end felt he had to blow up something in front of a certain soldier and his assistant - couldn't he have just put it down and then delivered his message? He's Superman not the Hulk.
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3:49AM on 06/18/2013

Metropolis Ground Zero

What I don't understand is ... Where the hell does Clark Kent went to work in the final scene? Because clearly the Daily Planet Building was destroyed, as many other buildings. If Goyer wants to show collateral damage, then the sequel will take place in a semi destructed Metropolis , with a greatly diminished number of habitants.
What I don't understand is ... Where the hell does Clark Kent went to work in the final scene? Because clearly the Daily Planet Building was destroyed, as many other buildings. If Goyer wants to show collateral damage, then the sequel will take place in a semi destructed Metropolis , with a greatly diminished number of habitants.
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9:26AM on 06/18/2013
you know he is superman right?
he prob helped rebuild the city after the battle.
you know he is superman right?
he prob helped rebuild the city after the battle.
2:07AM on 06/18/2013
What did the total destruction totals simulate out too? 700 Billion dollars in repairs, and 126,000 deaths...not very supermanesque. Does this have anything to do with the article? Absolutely not, I just felt like being annoying.
What did the total destruction totals simulate out too? 700 Billion dollars in repairs, and 126,000 deaths...not very supermanesque. Does this have anything to do with the article? Absolutely not, I just felt like being annoying.
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3:42PM on 06/17/2013

Man of Steel 2: Rise of Lex Luthor?

alright. MoS ends with the establishment of the Superman we all know. now let's build Lex Luthor into a REAL badass. waiting for a easter egg scene where Lex is getting off of a business deal with Bruce Wayne over the phone.
alright. MoS ends with the establishment of the Superman we all know. now let's build Lex Luthor into a REAL badass. waiting for a easter egg scene where Lex is getting off of a business deal with Bruce Wayne over the phone.
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3:23PM on 06/17/2013

On the "Colateral Damage" front...

I did think it was slightly excessive, but these are the kind of threats that require Superman. Huge, devastating, end of the natural world type threats that only the boy scout in blue can defend against. And while yes, it is un-superman to stand idly by as an entire city is destroyed you have to remember this is an origin story through and through. Yes he probably should have saved more of the city from Zods destruction, but he's new at this whole "superhero" thing and seeing the aftermath of
I did think it was slightly excessive, but these are the kind of threats that require Superman. Huge, devastating, end of the natural world type threats that only the boy scout in blue can defend against. And while yes, it is un-superman to stand idly by as an entire city is destroyed you have to remember this is an origin story through and through. Yes he probably should have saved more of the city from Zods destruction, but he's new at this whole "superhero" thing and seeing the aftermath of his lack of skill should (because who knows if this is what they'll do), but SHOULD be the catalyst for him to stand up tall, put his hands on his hips, and vow to never again let anything of that magnitude happen to Metropolis or any city again. I mean, cut the guy some slack. He was BECOMING Superman in this flick, not BEING Superman.
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4:17PM on 06/17/2013
Plus he was fighting for HIS LIFE. The Kryptonians were just as powerful as him, there were more of them, and they were trying to murder him. Kryptonians are a real threat to Superman. Normally, sure, he can jet around, save a helicopter, stop a missile, etc, but that's because he's facing something he can survive.

Asking why Superman wasn't flying around rescuing survivors is because he couldn't stop fighting for half-a-second, because he would have been killed.
Plus he was fighting for HIS LIFE. The Kryptonians were just as powerful as him, there were more of them, and they were trying to murder him. Kryptonians are a real threat to Superman. Normally, sure, he can jet around, save a helicopter, stop a missile, etc, but that's because he's facing something he can survive.

Asking why Superman wasn't flying around rescuing survivors is because he couldn't stop fighting for half-a-second, because he would have been killed.
3:15PM on 06/17/2013
Brainiac, please!
Brainiac, please!
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2:13PM on 06/17/2013
Considering Superman's creation is actually half Canadian it makes sense for him to go Global, as he should be. I was never a fan of the whole "Truth, Justice and the American Way" when he is more than that, he's more a global protector, much like how Justice League operates, than just American.
As for the collateral damage, I do agree with half of what they did. Zod and Co. could care less who lives and dies so I get that. However there were too many moments where Superman could have taken
Considering Superman's creation is actually half Canadian it makes sense for him to go Global, as he should be. I was never a fan of the whole "Truth, Justice and the American Way" when he is more than that, he's more a global protector, much like how Justice League operates, than just American.
As for the collateral damage, I do agree with half of what they did. Zod and Co. could care less who lives and dies so I get that. However there were too many moments where Superman could have taken the fight away from structures thus saving some lives. I dunno, great movie though
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2:09PM on 06/17/2013
Please don't let Goyer write another comic book movie, he's so terrible at it.
Please don't let Goyer write another comic book movie, he's so terrible at it.
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1:49PM on 06/17/2013

Huh?

I also don't get the weird amount of destruction that at least to me did not come with any sense or regret from Superman having failed to protect so many.
I also don't get the weird amount of destruction that at least to me did not come with any sense or regret from Superman having failed to protect so many.
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1:41PM on 06/17/2013

Huh?

What does Barrack Obama being president have to do with Superman being American? I'm not saying anything against the president, I'm just confused how Obama being elected makes it "okay" to be American. As for Superman, of course he's global, he's galactic, and he always was, he just lives in metropolis.
What does Barrack Obama being president have to do with Superman being American? I'm not saying anything against the president, I'm just confused how Obama being elected makes it "okay" to be American. As for Superman, of course he's global, he's galactic, and he always was, he just lives in metropolis.
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2:03PM on 06/17/2013
Yeah, that Obama thing makes no sense. Your opinion of your country shouldn't be based off who's president for 4 (or 8) years. The president isn't the King, and he isn't your Dad. You can like America and not like it's government/current policies.
Yeah, that Obama thing makes no sense. Your opinion of your country shouldn't be based off who's president for 4 (or 8) years. The president isn't the King, and he isn't your Dad. You can like America and not like it's government/current policies.
3:20PM on 06/17/2013
Maybe it has something to do with Obama being an "alien" (born outside of the United States) who was adopted by America and elected president/iconic figure.

Oh, no, I realize I just opened up a can of worms. Too bad I don't care. If anyone wants to debate this, have fun while I just laugh to myself. It's a joke. Let's see how many are offended.
Maybe it has something to do with Obama being an "alien" (born outside of the United States) who was adopted by America and elected president/iconic figure.

Oh, no, I realize I just opened up a can of worms. Too bad I don't care. If anyone wants to debate this, have fun while I just laugh to myself. It's a joke. Let's see how many are offended.
4:01PM on 06/17/2013
I don't think anyone here is going to start a debate because nobody cares. This is a movie website, if you're looking for a flame debate based on a joke, it would probably be on Reddit.
I don't think anyone here is going to start a debate because nobody cares. This is a movie website, if you're looking for a flame debate based on a joke, it would probably be on Reddit.
1:38PM on 06/17/2013
I like the ideas so far however releasing the sequel next year would be a huge mistake. Big budgeted movies that are rushed are almost never good. Play it smart and make the sequel for a 2015 release and set up the justice League in that film and release the movie in 2016 or 2017.
I like the ideas so far however releasing the sequel next year would be a huge mistake. Big budgeted movies that are rushed are almost never good. Play it smart and make the sequel for a 2015 release and set up the justice League in that film and release the movie in 2016 or 2017.
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1:19PM on 06/17/2013
Please make Brainiac the villain!!!
Please make Brainiac the villain!!!
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1:16PM on 06/17/2013
Movie was awesome, and hope a sequel will come out at least two years from now, I want them to take its time.
Movie was awesome, and hope a sequel will come out at least two years from now, I want them to take its time.
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1:04PM on 06/17/2013
I agree that Supes is the Earth's protector, but he's absolutely an American icon. I don't see why we should be ashamed of that or something. It's ridiculous. We created Superman. That's like saying it's not fair that Doctor Who is so England-centric. Of course most of his Earth adventures take place in England - he's a fucking British character, made by Brits, for Brits. If Americans and Canadians and Japanese people love Doctor Who, that's wonderful, but that doesn't mean the writers have to
I agree that Supes is the Earth's protector, but he's absolutely an American icon. I don't see why we should be ashamed of that or something. It's ridiculous. We created Superman. That's like saying it's not fair that Doctor Who is so England-centric. Of course most of his Earth adventures take place in England - he's a fucking British character, made by Brits, for Brits. If Americans and Canadians and Japanese people love Doctor Who, that's wonderful, but that doesn't mean the writers have to change the character for them.
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2:01PM on 06/17/2013
That's true, and I like Doctor Who. But another good point there is that Doctor Who is usually if not always saving the whole Earth, if not the universe. The character is made for the British audience but is not exclusive to them.
That's true, and I like Doctor Who. But another good point there is that Doctor Who is usually if not always saving the whole Earth, if not the universe. The character is made for the British audience but is not exclusive to them.
2:07PM on 06/17/2013
Right, just like how Superman saved the Earth . . . from Metropolis. Just like Doctor Who saves the Earth . . . from Cardiff. Or London. They're exactly the same. The characters are based in where they came from, and they're based off the ideals of the place that spawned them. Again, neither are exclusive to their region, but they shouldn't be retrofitted to "global" characters.
Right, just like how Superman saved the Earth . . . from Metropolis. Just like Doctor Who saves the Earth . . . from Cardiff. Or London. They're exactly the same. The characters are based in where they came from, and they're based off the ideals of the place that spawned them. Again, neither are exclusive to their region, but they shouldn't be retrofitted to "global" characters.
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1:02PM on 06/17/2013

Beyond the "collateral damage"...

(Read: innocent people dead), who is responsible for all the property damage. I'm sure insurance companies would be looking for someone to sue.
(Read: innocent people dead), who is responsible for all the property damage. I'm sure insurance companies would be looking for someone to sue.
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12:43PM on 06/17/2013

Yay, lets take away even more things from the SM mythos!!

Instead of staying in Metropolis/Gotham, lets have Superman be the worlds protector! Lets never mention kryptonite. Lets change random characters sexes. Lets kill off every bad guy, because Superman now kills more people than Batman. Lets try to make the next one even more boring. Lets just go fuck ourselves and call it a day.
Instead of staying in Metropolis/Gotham, lets have Superman be the worlds protector! Lets never mention kryptonite. Lets change random characters sexes. Lets kill off every bad guy, because Superman now kills more people than Batman. Lets try to make the next one even more boring. Lets just go fuck ourselves and call it a day.
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1:00PM on 06/17/2013
I had a lot of problems with Man of Steel, but lack of kryptonite was NOT one of them. Kryptonite is, and always was, a weak writer's crutch. Hell it didn't even come from the comics - it was an invention for the radio show so the Superman voice actor could take a vacation. Any Superman story featuring kryptonite is a worse story - give Supes a challenge, not a weaksauce weakness that makes it easier to write him. Any "story" that revolves around the character losing his powers means the
I had a lot of problems with Man of Steel, but lack of kryptonite was NOT one of them. Kryptonite is, and always was, a weak writer's crutch. Hell it didn't even come from the comics - it was an invention for the radio show so the Superman voice actor could take a vacation. Any Superman story featuring kryptonite is a worse story - give Supes a challenge, not a weaksauce weakness that makes it easier to write him. Any "story" that revolves around the character losing his powers means the writers have no idea what to do with his powers.
1:49PM on 06/17/2013
I don't think I minded the damage to the city as much as just the fact that it didn't seem to matter to Superman. I feel like that should have been the emotional trigger on the character, not just horrific death and destruction happening in the background. Death only seemed to matter at the end of the fight instead of throughout. I think that's how you weaken Superman is through hurting those he's trying to protect, that's way better than Kryptonite, and far more relatable to an audience.
I don't think I minded the damage to the city as much as just the fact that it didn't seem to matter to Superman. I feel like that should have been the emotional trigger on the character, not just horrific death and destruction happening in the background. Death only seemed to matter at the end of the fight instead of throughout. I think that's how you weaken Superman is through hurting those he's trying to protect, that's way better than Kryptonite, and far more relatable to an audience.
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12:34PM on 06/17/2013

So True

Quite a few people did talk shit about Batman Begins back when it first came out, but now those same people are like"of yeah,its so great blah blah blah"Go fuck yourselves! Batman Begins was always great and So is Man Of Steel. I gladly look forward to more Superman sequels.
Quite a few people did talk shit about Batman Begins back when it first came out, but now those same people are like"of yeah,its so great blah blah blah"Go fuck yourselves! Batman Begins was always great and So is Man Of Steel. I gladly look forward to more Superman sequels.
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2:42PM on 06/17/2013
THIS GUY SPEAKS TRUTH
THIS GUY SPEAKS TRUTH
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12:23PM on 06/17/2013
I hope the next film is more Earth-based. That's to say, not another alien invasion right away. Show Superman helping people and doing what makes him a compassionate hero, while having someone like Lex rise up who has legitimate reservations about this alien flying around his skies given what happened in the first film. Build to something big for the next film (be that MoS 3 or the Batman/Superman team up or Justice League), but scale back a bit in the next one. Setting up someone like Brainiac
I hope the next film is more Earth-based. That's to say, not another alien invasion right away. Show Superman helping people and doing what makes him a compassionate hero, while having someone like Lex rise up who has legitimate reservations about this alien flying around his skies given what happened in the first film. Build to something big for the next film (be that MoS 3 or the Batman/Superman team up or Justice League), but scale back a bit in the next one. Setting up someone like Brainiac or Darkseid for the third film, where Superman will need help, could be ace.

As a total side-note, when the Batman team up comes, I would rather they just use Bale than some reboot. Just have him in the suit as Bats and don't address the post-TDKR stuff. He's the iconic Batman at this point and it sounds like this may be fast tracked to the point where it would be awkward for audiences to see a different Batman. Plus, his Batman would be a much bigger draw than whatever else WB/DC comes out with. Besides, if Bale's Batman were chilling with Selina on some beach and saw that a major city was wrecked by an alien invasion, I can't imagine he'd stay retired...
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12:19PM on 06/17/2013

Brianiac, Brainiac, Brainiac

I just wish Goyer was not writing the sequel. As to the damage, my problem was not the fact that mass destruction was going to kill people, it was Superman's decision to not put humanity first during his fights. Each of his major fights happen with civilians around, with him flying through skyscrapers that were being totally destroyed with people in them. If he had determined to move the fight to a less inhabited area the ending could have had a different outcome I think.

Also, Bizzarro
I just wish Goyer was not writing the sequel. As to the damage, my problem was not the fact that mass destruction was going to kill people, it was Superman's decision to not put humanity first during his fights. Each of his major fights happen with civilians around, with him flying through skyscrapers that were being totally destroyed with people in them. If he had determined to move the fight to a less inhabited area the ending could have had a different outcome I think.

Also, Bizzarro World would be an interesting movie....also the next movie needs a JLA cameo MM or Flash someone.
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12:18PM on 06/17/2013

Action Comics #900

David Goyer actually wrote a small story for the milestone 900th issue of Action Comics in which Superman renounced his US citizenship. Perhaps we'll see something like that.
David Goyer actually wrote a small story for the milestone 900th issue of Action Comics in which Superman renounced his US citizenship. Perhaps we'll see something like that.
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2:08PM on 06/17/2013
Wow, I didn't know about that. That sounds like a kinda boring issue of Superman that will eventually be worth a lot of money to collectors.
Wow, I didn't know about that. That sounds like a kinda boring issue of Superman that will eventually be worth a lot of money to collectors.
12:18PM on 06/17/2013

Action Comics #900

David Goyer actually wrote a small story for the milestone 900th issue of Action Comics in which Superman renounced his US citizenship. Perhaps we'll see something like that.
David Goyer actually wrote a small story for the milestone 900th issue of Action Comics in which Superman renounced his US citizenship. Perhaps we'll see something like that.
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12:12PM on 06/17/2013
It only makes sense that Superman would save people in other countries as well.

I just can't wait to see Cavill in Clark Kent mode for the sequel and seeing Lex Luthor and Kryptonite introduced. I think that was one of the more stronger positives in Man of Steel in that it didn't give us ALL of the aspects of Superman. Saving the other details and characters for the much anticipated sequel.
It only makes sense that Superman would save people in other countries as well.

I just can't wait to see Cavill in Clark Kent mode for the sequel and seeing Lex Luthor and Kryptonite introduced. I think that was one of the more stronger positives in Man of Steel in that it didn't give us ALL of the aspects of Superman. Saving the other details and characters for the much anticipated sequel.
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12:00PM on 06/17/2013
I just hope in the next MoS, they show the rebuilding of Metropolis. It took 13 years to rebuild Freedom Tower/WTC 1 in Manhattan. More than half of Metropolis was destroyed when General Zod landed. While I liked MoS, the Daily Planet operating after a city disaster was a little far-fetched, even for a super hero movie.
I just hope in the next MoS, they show the rebuilding of Metropolis. It took 13 years to rebuild Freedom Tower/WTC 1 in Manhattan. More than half of Metropolis was destroyed when General Zod landed. While I liked MoS, the Daily Planet operating after a city disaster was a little far-fetched, even for a super hero movie.
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12:10PM on 06/17/2013
I took the Daily Planet scene to be several months later. And it seemed to be a different building than before the attack. I've only seen it once (going again tonight), so I could be wrong. And I love your idea about rebuilding. You know Luthor would try to make as much money as possible during the reconstruction phase.
I took the Daily Planet scene to be several months later. And it seemed to be a different building than before the attack. I've only seen it once (going again tonight), so I could be wrong. And I love your idea about rebuilding. You know Luthor would try to make as much money as possible during the reconstruction phase.
3:57PM on 06/17/2013
Let me know if it's a different building
Let me know if it's a different building
4:06PM on 06/17/2013
They should say superman helped with te rebuild.took him a 2 days.
They should say superman helped with te rebuild.took him a 2 days.
11:41AM on 06/17/2013
Another idea being the military makes a clone ala Bizzaro as result of the aftermath of MOS and it runs amuck.
Another idea being the military makes a clone ala Bizzaro as result of the aftermath of MOS and it runs amuck.
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11:39AM on 06/17/2013
I want to see supes go up against Hank henshaw and or Ruin in the sequel
I want to see supes go up against Hank henshaw and or Ruin in the sequel
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11:34AM on 06/17/2013
Although I think the movie does the bare minimum (if that) to depict what they are talking about, I am glad they are saying it. This has been my opinion for years especially everytime someone tries to make a Superman movie and fails( including Superman Returns and even that speech in Kill Bill 2). Superman was raised from infancy in Kansas by a quintessential American archetype family. He has a high opinion of humanity and that they are worth saving not that they are inferior and would only
Although I think the movie does the bare minimum (if that) to depict what they are talking about, I am glad they are saying it. This has been my opinion for years especially everytime someone tries to make a Superman movie and fails( including Superman Returns and even that speech in Kill Bill 2). Superman was raised from infancy in Kansas by a quintessential American archetype family. He has a high opinion of humanity and that they are worth saving not that they are inferior and would only ever survive with his help. I'm hoping this is touched upon more in a sequel. It is the perfect topic to introduce Lex, the financial "savior" who swoops in to rebuild the city and smear Superman's new reputation.
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11:18AM on 06/17/2013
I would be more OK with how things went down in MoS if they made it look like anybody gave a damn. Seriously. All that death and destruction, and Superman never bats an eye. It's not until the final clash with Zod that you see him try to protect anybody directly in Metropolis other than Lois Lane. Yeah, I know where he was when the terraforming starting, but couldn't we at least see people ACT like several blocks of city were just leveled? The only part somewhat like this was the scene with
I would be more OK with how things went down in MoS if they made it look like anybody gave a damn. Seriously. All that death and destruction, and Superman never bats an eye. It's not until the final clash with Zod that you see him try to protect anybody directly in Metropolis other than Lois Lane. Yeah, I know where he was when the terraforming starting, but couldn't we at least see people ACT like several blocks of city were just leveled? The only part somewhat like this was the scene with Jenny and Perry (which was very well done).

If they wanted Superman to look less like a god, then they could have shown him on his knees shouting, not at the end with Zod, but maybe realizing he couldn't save all those people instead. To me, the destruction was made as eye candy, which is OK, but don't tell me it humanizes Superman when no effort is given to make him appear that way.
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11:14AM on 06/17/2013
I like the way Superman's "American" identity was handled in the film. He's lived in Kansas all his life and proclaimed himself to be "as American as it gets" and yet, he's not a propaganda-ish poster boy and has a somewhat uneasy relationship with the US military, even towards the end of the film. I hope future installments of this series introduce General Sam Lane, we could get a little bit of that Thunderbolt Ross-Betty Ross relationship but not in that exact same way.
I like the way Superman's "American" identity was handled in the film. He's lived in Kansas all his life and proclaimed himself to be "as American as it gets" and yet, he's not a propaganda-ish poster boy and has a somewhat uneasy relationship with the US military, even towards the end of the film. I hope future installments of this series introduce General Sam Lane, we could get a little bit of that Thunderbolt Ross-Betty Ross relationship but not in that exact same way.
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10:55AM on 06/17/2013
That's funny how when people do not like a movie, they find any little thing to nitpick about. To feel the need to complain about collateral damage to a city & innocent lives? I mean really? Nobody complained about this last year with the last battle scene in The Avengers. You don't think the same damage & lost lives argument isn't justified for that movie either? It's just beyond ridiculous & it's because The Avengers was a good movie. People seriously need to lighten up.
That's funny how when people do not like a movie, they find any little thing to nitpick about. To feel the need to complain about collateral damage to a city & innocent lives? I mean really? Nobody complained about this last year with the last battle scene in The Avengers. You don't think the same damage & lost lives argument isn't justified for that movie either? It's just beyond ridiculous & it's because The Avengers was a good movie. People seriously need to lighten up.
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10:53AM on 06/17/2013

Here's something....

I'm hoping eventually they will introduce DOOMSDAY. That would be a great film and the all time epic battle of superhero film. Then there is DARKSEID. U can't leave him out either. That's also an epic battle of battles.
I'm hoping eventually they will introduce DOOMSDAY. That would be a great film and the all time epic battle of superhero film. Then there is DARKSEID. U can't leave him out either. That's also an epic battle of battles.
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9:33AM on 06/18/2013
darkseid should send and army of doomsdays clones to earth in 2 then the jla head to apokolyps in the third or jla movie


darkseid should send and army of doomsdays clones to earth in 2 then the jla head to apokolyps in the third or jla movie


10:50AM on 06/17/2013

Here's something....

I'm hoping eventually they will introduce DOOMSDAY. That would be a great film and the all time epic battle of superhero film. Then there is DARKSEID. U can't leave him out either. That's also an epic battle of battles.
I'm hoping eventually they will introduce DOOMSDAY. That would be a great film and the all time epic battle of superhero film. Then there is DARKSEID. U can't leave him out either. That's also an epic battle of battles.
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10:48AM on 06/17/2013

sequel idea

American politicians don't trust Superman, and want to be able to control him. Enter Lex Luthor, CEO of LexCorp, to bribe senators/congressmen to allow him to build and test weapons that could be used against Superman. Perhaps Kryptonite is discovered by Luthor.
American politicians don't trust Superman, and want to be able to control him. Enter Lex Luthor, CEO of LexCorp, to bribe senators/congressmen to allow him to build and test weapons that could be used against Superman. Perhaps Kryptonite is discovered by Luthor.
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