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foxgate2000
on Feb 12 2008, 2:59:03 AM writes:
CORRAN HORN
My statement about all the strikes was a failed attempt at humor, though I do remember plenty of talk about an actor's strike for '09 long before I ever heard about the writer's strike. I figured most people would have read the context of my statement and realized I was joking and not stating facts, but none-the-less, I apologize for your confusion.
Zara, spot on! Writer's are often treated as the red-headed step child when by and large it's their ideas that we enjoy (though sometimes they are paid to translate other people's ideas). I can understand the frustration with the strike lasting as long as it did, but I can not abide the ignorance of people thinking that because a large handful of very successful writers cash checks ending in a trail of zeros, that that must mean ALL writers are making serious bank. Some are comfortable, some struggle to get by day-to-day, some of us just do it for the love of it. As in any field, each writer is different, is appreciated differently, and gets paid differently.
Now, ABC, get back to work on LOST! And NBC? Is there ANY chance of us getting Volume 3 of Heroes THIS season? |
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Ne\/er|\/|orE
on Feb 11 2008, 3:36:25 AM writes:
Gogo LOST! Let's cross fingers that it isn't too late to add to season 4's puny 8 episodes. |
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Trendkill24hour
on Feb 10 2008, 6:19:07 PM writes:
HELL YAH, thats what im saying "Get Lost back in development" Thats the only show/movie that I care about when it come to the writers strike. It would kill me to only see 8 episodes and then get shot down for another 6 months. Its time to save season 4!! Since it may very well be the greatest piece of Telvision...in history!!...if you dont understand where im coming from...then you need to watch the show...because you are obvisiously missing out. |
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boombche_stum
on Feb 10 2008, 5:32:09 PM writes:
GOOD.. WRITERS DESERVE ALL THAT AND MORE...
Olboj... writers were overpaid to begin with? How? Without a script the movie can't be shot. You make it sound as though a writer isn't important by saying, "They only write." Well duh! they're writers! That's their job. And without them, Hollywood would have nothing. Producers wouldn't have anything to produce, Directors wouldn't have anything to direct, Actors wouldn't have anything to act, etc..... point is, the script is teh building block of the whole movie and without one no one else has a job.
And you think writers are overpaid? LOL. Maybe you need a dose of reality. When is the last time you saw a screenwriter get 30 million for a screenplay? If you think writers are overpaid surely you must think that about actors, producers and directors seeing as how they all get more (most of the time) than the writer. If anything, writers deserve more because they are paid the least out of the major positions in most cases.
And do you also not realize Directors, Producers and Actors ALL already get residuals for their work? Why do they deserve it and not the writer since it was *THE WRITERS IDEA* they shot, acted and produced?
You're hopeless. |
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 AwesomeZara
on Feb 10 2008, 4:55:00 PM writes:
After getting a chance to interview a writer who worked on "Everybody Loves Raymond," I earned a new level of respect for those in the WGA.
If you're interested, Olboj, listen up:
Most of the people who work on the series will be what are referred to as "low level" writers. These are the people who might put just as much effort and energy into making sure that an episode makes people laugh as anyone else involved in the production.
HOWEVER.... lower lever writers do not always receive writing credits for their work. When a team works together on an episode, it is banged out what should be in the episode and then assigned to a team who will then get credit for writing it. Which means that even if some other guy had better ideas that most of the audience loved, it will never be known that he was involved in that because he's staff and not the on the team who was assigned to the final draft. Does that mean that they do less work? Hell to the No.
But it also starts to get the undereducated masses to believe that "writers" are supposedly paid too much. Because all we focus on are those whose names actually appear as having worked on episodes or scripts. Judd Apatow is a great writer, but surprisingly enough he's working WITH A TEAM OF WRITERS to be the man that he's considered to be in his field.
The writers DO deserve more. Not just a couple of figurehead writers who have gotten more name play, but EVERY writer who has been involved in the entertainment and enjoyment that fanboys and girls take for granted.
THAT is what the strike was about to me. That in the end, if they weren't properly protected, all of the lower level writers would be completely getting the shaft.
I applaud the big name writers for standing with the people that they know have MADE them. I applaud that everyone stood together as a collective. It's nice to know that there are some people who can be loyal to one another, especially in an industry where people are designed to eat one another apart rather than show a "weakness" such as compassion and appreciation.
And in that regard, my compassion and greatest of appreciation goes out the the PAs of this entertainment world. You want to talk about some people who take an anal assault sans Astroglide and still get up to go to work every morning, it's PAs. Thanks for all your hard work guys. |
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 KingofKings2525
on Feb 10 2008, 4:28:27 PM writes:
Unbelieveable that some people here thoroughly believe that the writers deserve more.
They get paid to do a job. They write the script and that is it. They do not produce it, they do not make the sets, they don't do the make-up, they don't direct, they don't film, they don't act, etc, etc... The list could go on forever. All they do is put an idea on paper.
Again, they do a job and get paid for it. What makes them so special that they deserve residuals for work they already got paid for? That thought process is lame and just bad for business. The the trash man should get paid more money now because waste management companies are making MILLIONS fron recycling the trash they pick up, right?
Writers were overpaid to begin with. |
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jampes
on Feb 10 2008, 2:53:18 PM writes:
Agree with AwesomeZara. I also support the writers in their strike. Olboj: shame.
I have a question, though. Maybe someone can help. I had heard something to the effect that the WGA was keeping the strike going long enough for certain contracts to expire, then they were going to go forward w/negotiations. The implication was that there were people getting excluded (essentially screwed) from any gains the WGA gets from a new contract. Can anyone shed any light on this rumor. I admit I have only heard bits and pieces, so I admit that I don't know what I'm talking about. THanks! |
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 SkyNet
on Feb 10 2008, 2:40:04 PM writes:
I am a professional writer... and i agree that the Writers deserved everything they were fighting for... i do not agree with some of the things they did. I felt that not allowing the Golden Globes to go on was the WGA Heads just trying to Flex Their muscles, rather then show a little good faith. The fact that the Oscars may not have happened, again, flexing their muscle.
I do agree with whoever said that Conan has never been better than he currently is without his writers! |
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AwesomeZara
on Feb 10 2008, 2:19:04 PM writes:
The only people who would suggest that writers don't deserve every penny that they currently get (and more) are the people who have no writing talent whatsoever.
Just because you can type out words or Awesome-forbid in this day and age, write them on a piece of paper, does not make you a writer. Writers are very much artists. In fact, they're the canvases on which the art is built upon. Take away that and you've got nothing.
Those who can, do.
Those who can't, try to convince the other can'ts that the cans are insignificant.
I understand Foxgate's pain, as I watched the first season of Heroes on DVD, got excited to watch the second season while it was being aired (a huge thing for a non-TV viewer like myself) and then got the rug pulled out from under me prematurely.
But Olboj (creative name, btw, *msacras*), those other people wouldn't have the jobs that they were out of if the writers didn't exist. Unless you prefer a world of "reality" television and documentaries. |
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corran horn
on Feb 10 2008, 10:06:26 AM writes:
FAR TOO PESSIMISTIC, FOXGATE
The Director's guild settled its new contract a month ago, and with the Writers now potentially ending their own strike, I doubt the actors will strike. The SAG's rhetoric was, I believe, designed to express solidarity with the writers, put added pressure on the AMPTP, and strengthen their own position. I seriously doubt the actors will strike after the directors and writers have settled. As far as I know, the Producer's Guild has no intentions to strike--not even sure they could as there's a lot of overlap between them and the AMPTP |
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UPDATE 2 - TV showrunners and writers who also carry a producing credit will return to work tomorrow (Monday) with regular writers getting back to work on Wednesday. I've heard from sources that film writers are also beginning to get back to work in a non-official kind of way...
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