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Guillermo Del Toro doesn't think Hellboy 3 is ever going to happen

Jul. 11, 2014by:

Sorry, folks. It looks like a third HELLBOY film is not going to happen. And this time we are getting it from Guillermo Del Toro himself. During a recent AMA session on HELLBOY. With comments from Ron Perlman saying he wants to make the movie, you would assume the filmmaker who has over a dozen projects in various stages of development gave such a concrete response to the question.

Its very unlikely itll happen because you need things to converge so strongly. [Producer] Larry Gordon, Universal, the rights, Ron [Perlmans] and mines availability, [comic creator] Mike [Mingolas] blessing; we have pieces of that, but we dont have all of that. You need so many things to confluence and then you need about $150 million.

Currently, Guillermo Del Toro has his new TV series THE STRAIN premiering this weekend on FX, the haunted house movie CRIMSON PEAK in production, and a sequel to PACIFIC RIM coming in just a couple of years. Add to that news that his AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS is back on track, there doesn't seem to be a time or place for him to even make HELLBOY III. And, with Ron Perlman approaching approaching his mid-60s, the time may be passed.

Still, Del Toro seemed to have been actively thinking of where the third film would have taken the characters and shared some details.

"[T]he idea for it was to have Hellboy finally come to terms with the fact that his destiny, his inevitable destiny, is to become the beast of the Apocalypse, and having him and Liz face the sort of, that part of his nature, and he has to do it, in order to be able to ironically vanquish the foe that he has to face in the 3rd film. He has to become the best of the Apocalypse to be able to defend humanity, but at the same time he becomes a much darker being. Its a very interesting ending to the series, but I dont think it will happen.

It is a shame that we will not get the narrative cap to the saga of HELLBOY which may bug fans forever. But, at one point Del Toro said PROMETHEUS was too similar to AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS and that is back on his plate again. So, maybe you shouldn't give up all hope to see HELLBOY III, just don't hold your breath.

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9:17PM on 07/13/2014

Is this supposed to be news?

Guillermo announces a new project like once a month. It became clear to me that if he wanted to make HELLBOY 3 he'd do it. During every announcement, people say "He should make HELLBOY 3 first". I applaud you all for your dedication, but maybe it's time to move on.
Guillermo announces a new project like once a month. It became clear to me that if he wanted to make HELLBOY 3 he'd do it. During every announcement, people say "He should make HELLBOY 3 first". I applaud you all for your dedication, but maybe it's time to move on.
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12:38PM on 07/13/2014
bad news :( ok Del Toro go and direct super expensive B movies, for example fighting giant robots in the ocean II !

bad news :( ok Del Toro go and direct super expensive B movies, for example fighting giant robots in the ocean II !

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4:24AM on 07/13/2014

its time.....

they replaced Del Toro as Director and find another director.... it's not like they cant do that... shit, green light the film and get it made already!
they replaced Del Toro as Director and find another director.... it's not like they cant do that... shit, green light the film and get it made already!
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9:49PM on 07/12/2014

Sad

Sad news
Sad news
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9:30PM on 07/12/2014

Come on!!!

Although I wasn't sold on things after seeing Hellboy, Hellboy t2 really owned! Of any of del Tor's projects this is the one that I'd wanted to do the most
Although I wasn't sold on things after seeing Hellboy, Hellboy t2 really owned! Of any of del Tor's projects this is the one that I'd wanted to do the most
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1:38PM on 07/12/2014
Such a great filmmaker who did pans for $20 mill and Hellboy 2 for $80 I would think he could come up with a way to make this relatively cheap for its scale
Such a great filmmaker who did pans for $20 mill and Hellboy 2 for $80 I would think he could come up with a way to make this relatively cheap for its scale
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1:29PM on 07/12/2014
Did Hellboy 2 not do very well? I really want this film. Also, when is Disney gonna get him for a Star Wars movie? Hellboy 2 was one of the few films that reminded me of the things I love ab Star Wars.
Did Hellboy 2 not do very well? I really want this film. Also, when is Disney gonna get him for a Star Wars movie? Hellboy 2 was one of the few films that reminded me of the things I love ab Star Wars.
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1:23PM on 07/12/2014
I hate it when a film series goes unfinished (Narnia, now this). Really the only issues I think are a problem are the budget and Del Toro's availability. I'm not opposed to a new director doing the third film, but I'd prefer Del Toro. As for the budget, $150M is high and I think with a smaller budget the film would be profitable for the studio. The only reason the second movie underperformed was b/c it was released one week before The Dark Knight came out, poor timing.
I hate it when a film series goes unfinished (Narnia, now this). Really the only issues I think are a problem are the budget and Del Toro's availability. I'm not opposed to a new director doing the third film, but I'd prefer Del Toro. As for the budget, $150M is high and I think with a smaller budget the film would be profitable for the studio. The only reason the second movie underperformed was b/c it was released one week before The Dark Knight came out, poor timing.
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1:17PM on 07/12/2014

@Filmbuff85

That's not how the movie industry works. The director doesn't have final say on what projects are greenlit, especially not a director who has not had much success in the box office. It doesn't matter how great a director is: if his movie does not make money, a sequel is not likely to be approved. Hellboy is not a successful franchise, and with such a large budget, how do they expect to make the money back?

And the reason the budget is so high is likely because Del Toro has a grand vision
That's not how the movie industry works. The director doesn't have final say on what projects are greenlit, especially not a director who has not had much success in the box office. It doesn't matter how great a director is: if his movie does not make money, a sequel is not likely to be approved. Hellboy is not a successful franchise, and with such a large budget, how do they expect to make the money back?

And the reason the budget is so high is likely because Del Toro has a grand vision that requires an abundance of special effects and large-scale filmmaking. The film he is describing does not sound like it can be a "small, character study." The spectacle in the Apocalyptic scenes, under Del Toro's direction, likely would be expensive, and he probably doesn't want to compromise his vision. Unfortunately, that means the movie he wants to make can't be financed, and therefore he has to move on to something else.
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9:55AM on 07/12/2014
God damn it, I wanna see that.
God damn it, I wanna see that.
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8:42AM on 07/12/2014
I'm not overjoyed but overall am ok with this. Enjoy the flicks and am happy we got two solid ones we got. Would rather see a "At the Mountains of Madness" adaptation from Del Toro anyhow. Maybe they can do a animated wrap on the series like they are with bridging Pacific Rim 1 & 2. That way the budget and Perlman's age wouldn't be an issue.
I'm not overjoyed but overall am ok with this. Enjoy the flicks and am happy we got two solid ones we got. Would rather see a "At the Mountains of Madness" adaptation from Del Toro anyhow. Maybe they can do a animated wrap on the series like they are with bridging Pacific Rim 1 & 2. That way the budget and Perlman's age wouldn't be an issue.
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12:28AM on 07/12/2014

BS

Toro is one of my favorite directors but if he really wanted to do it, he could. Pearlman is in, so what the hell is the problem?
Toro is one of my favorite directors but if he really wanted to do it, he could. Pearlman is in, so what the hell is the problem?
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12:23AM on 07/12/2014

unfortunate to hear

The first was rocky but I enjoyed it, the second you could tell he had more control over the production and well the third as we have just read will probably never happen. maybe what could be said is that if you can't finish a trilogy; which was clearly meant to be the case, maybe not start one at all.... Idk, kind of a let down, especially when Del Toro is one of my favorite directors and the second one I felt was a really good film.
The first was rocky but I enjoyed it, the second you could tell he had more control over the production and well the third as we have just read will probably never happen. maybe what could be said is that if you can't finish a trilogy; which was clearly meant to be the case, maybe not start one at all.... Idk, kind of a let down, especially when Del Toro is one of my favorite directors and the second one I felt was a really good film.
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10:57PM on 07/11/2014
Would a Kickstarter campaign help?
Would a Kickstarter campaign help?
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10:52PM on 07/11/2014
rstarr14 is 100% right. You can't ask for $150million for a film in a franchise that only earns about $60-80 million per film. No one is going to agree to that.
rstarr14 is 100% right. You can't ask for $150million for a film in a franchise that only earns about $60-80 million per film. No one is going to agree to that.
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9:58PM on 07/11/2014

THAT'S THE PROBLEM!

DAMN IT, MAN! They act like they don't know what the problem is. We're only asking for $150 fuckin' million!?! There are miles of great spectacle movies in the fantasy genre without a budget nearly that. Ask for $80 and you might get it!!!!!! Then if people like what you're doing maybe a financier gives you another $50 mil!!! These budgets for action films are out of hand. Remember when tentpole meant tentpole? Now every damn action movie thinks it deserves a tentpole budget, and it's
DAMN IT, MAN! They act like they don't know what the problem is. We're only asking for $150 fuckin' million!?! There are miles of great spectacle movies in the fantasy genre without a budget nearly that. Ask for $80 and you might get it!!!!!! Then if people like what you're doing maybe a financier gives you another $50 mil!!! These budgets for action films are out of hand. Remember when tentpole meant tentpole? Now every damn action movie thinks it deserves a tentpole budget, and it's all just a mess. Hellboy 3 should be character focused, and have great setpieces and realistic effects, not an orgy of money like ASM2 or Transformers.
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9:50PM on 07/11/2014
Not getting a Hellboy 3 would be a travesty.
Not getting a Hellboy 3 would be a travesty.
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9:48PM on 07/11/2014
As much as I loved Pacific Rim and am anticipating the sequel, I would much rather have Hellboy 3 instead or just wait longer for Pacific Rim 2 while he were to work on Hellboy 3.
As much as I loved Pacific Rim and am anticipating the sequel, I would much rather have Hellboy 3 instead or just wait longer for Pacific Rim 2 while he were to work on Hellboy 3.
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