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Joss Whedon quits Twitter over Avengers: Age of Ultron backlash

05.05.2015

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Joss Whedon has deactivated his Twitter account, and although the director hasn't revealed why he quit the social media service, many believe it's because of the online criticism he has received for AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON.

Some critics are claiming the film is misogynist because of the portrayal of Scarlett Johannson's Black Widow, arguing that her character was "slut-shamed" in THE AVENGERS sequel. Others aren't happy about plot holes in the movie, and the relationship between Black Widow and Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner. While some think Whedon deleted his account because he was simply done promoting AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON, there's speculation that he received death threats due to his handling of the Marvel movie. Joss Whedon's final tweet was, "Thank you to all the people who've been so kind and funny and inspiring up in here."

I understand fans not being happy about a movie and venting about it online, however telling a director to "die" or "go kill yourself" is completely uncalled for. Some will say Joss Whedon "deserves" this because of his comment on the JURASSIC WORLD clip, but again, there's no need for extremely nasty and personal criticism. JoBlo.com will miss you on Twitter, Mr. Whedon, and you're still badass in our book.

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11:22AM on 05/06/2015

the movie sucks

It's for 5 year olds , nothing happens , no one important dies , zero emotional impact , stupid out of nowhere relations ....sequels are supposed to be classics ...this one does not even come.close.
It's for 5 year olds , nothing happens , no one important dies , zero emotional impact , stupid out of nowhere relations ....sequels are supposed to be classics ...this one does not even come.close.
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9:53AM on 05/06/2015
I'm sure someday he'll be back on Twitter.
I'm sure someday he'll be back on Twitter.
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8:42AM on 05/06/2015
On the minus side, Joss Whedon hasn't quit writing banal, quip-heavy scripts.
On the minus side, Joss Whedon hasn't quit writing banal, quip-heavy scripts.
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8:26AM on 05/06/2015
Fuck me some people need to grow up. I can't believe shit like this actually exists for people to spew their views about. This is the age of the 21st century where half of what is written is bullshit. No doubt whedon like millions of other rich people will have someone to write his tweets if he so desired and to be honest if I had that much money I wouldn't give a flying fuck what someone called me. At the end of the day the Internet has given an invisible face to some people to hide behind and
Fuck me some people need to grow up. I can't believe shit like this actually exists for people to spew their views about. This is the age of the 21st century where half of what is written is bullshit. No doubt whedon like millions of other rich people will have someone to write his tweets if he so desired and to be honest if I had that much money I wouldn't give a flying fuck what someone called me. At the end of the day the Internet has given an invisible face to some people to hide behind and name call but that's it people - fuck me when did sticks and stones become irrelevant? It's just words man grow up
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8:46AM on 05/06/2015
Oddly enough words have more energy and create more problems than sticks and stones. The saying is a false truth. In my studies in psychology I've learned that emotions and the words they produce carry energy. When that energy is pooled it can feed and grow. Riots can and have started from nothing more than collective anger. It can spread even more efficiently than a disease if concentrated enough. With the internet and social media, we are now able to see this energy work in ways we were
Oddly enough words have more energy and create more problems than sticks and stones. The saying is a false truth. In my studies in psychology I've learned that emotions and the words they produce carry energy. When that energy is pooled it can feed and grow. Riots can and have started from nothing more than collective anger. It can spread even more efficiently than a disease if concentrated enough. With the internet and social media, we are now able to see this energy work in ways we were not able to before. Collective hate directed at one person can be an extremely powerful energy that we are susceptible to whether rich or not. Reading through forums can show the spread of anger just through the typed word. Its fascinating! To be affected by it is human. The common consensus on what emotions can and can't do, and what their significance is, is currently still an uneducated one.
10:21AM on 05/06/2015
It's funny that cos your words just sent me to sleep half way through reading them
It's funny that cos your words just sent me to sleep half way through reading them
10:24AM on 05/06/2015
Yes that's called apathy. Convenient that you'd feel apathetic now, and when you had so much to say earlier.
Yes that's called apathy. Convenient that you'd feel apathetic now, and when you had so much to say earlier.
10:42AM on 05/06/2015
It's called sarcasm you prick - look that one up in your lessons
It's called sarcasm you prick - look that one up in your lessons
10:48AM on 05/06/2015
Why so angry? I didn't throw a stick or a stone at you. Are you getting my point? Okay I'll stop there, I have no desire to upset you and I apologize if I have. I just wanted to make a point with my first comment that I thought was quite interesting and relevant.
Why so angry? I didn't throw a stick or a stone at you. Are you getting my point? Okay I'll stop there, I have no desire to upset you and I apologize if I have. I just wanted to make a point with my first comment that I thought was quite interesting and relevant.
4:50PM on 05/06/2015
That may carry some substance now movie maniac because we now live in a society which is so hypersensitive. I still believe in that statement "sticks and stones' you say riots and protest as if it is negative. But riots and protests are supposed to remind governments that the people still exist. Would you be happy just to accept everything the government tells you to do. Do your psychology lessons also talk about Political Correctness? and how it is designed to actually oppress the mind as a
That may carry some substance now movie maniac because we now live in a society which is so hypersensitive. I still believe in that statement "sticks and stones' you say riots and protest as if it is negative. But riots and protests are supposed to remind governments that the people still exist. Would you be happy just to accept everything the government tells you to do. Do your psychology lessons also talk about Political Correctness? and how it is designed to actually oppress the mind as a form of control. Words are words, and when we realise the amount of bullshit that actually come out of some peoples mouths are just shit, the less hung up and more likely we will be to get on with our lives.
12:54AM on 05/07/2015
Hi Bobafett (lol!). To be honest in my opinion we being hypersensitive is not a new thing. In my humble opinion self-awareness is the greatest tool for combating conditioning. Unfortunately most humans operate while being heavily influenced by their uncnonscious as Freud discovered with Psychoanalysis. A big problem is that most societies teach lack - a feeling that we are 'less than'. We strive as individuals to be loved and appreciated because we feel unworthy. This feeling of lack
Hi Bobafett (lol!). To be honest in my opinion we being hypersensitive is not a new thing. In my humble opinion self-awareness is the greatest tool for combating conditioning. Unfortunately most humans operate while being heavily influenced by their uncnonscious as Freud discovered with Psychoanalysis. A big problem is that most societies teach lack - a feeling that we are 'less than'. We strive as individuals to be loved and appreciated because we feel unworthy. This feeling of lack becomes a neurosis, a common one that creates greed or desire for power over others so that appreciation can be forced from them. Greed is nothing more than an externalised attempt to fill an internal hole. Power, an asserting of oneself against the transatory nature of life where 'things' (including love and respect) can and will ultimately be lost. People in power more often than not struggle with these things unconsciously, and while driven by them, are not there for the right reasons. This energy of greed and need for power is really only fear. When someone rules through fear (even in a democracy) it corrupts intention and eventually we have riots. I would not call it a good thing but more a natural evolution of the above. Many innocents suffered and lost it all in the London riots for example (I reference them because I witnessed them), and of course that is a bad thing. All of this is self perpetuating because the vast majority of us suffer these feelings of lack and unworthiness. If we do make it to power (having been the rioter) our intentions will be corrupted by the same unconscious drives. Self awareness is the beginning of the answer - if we see our unconscious drives we can begin to reduce their hold over us. The key is in understanding our nature.

Having said all this we are way off topic. Lol! But here's an interesting thought. Whedon is no government but the above can still be seen albeit in reverse - the mob attempts to dominate the artist. Are we any better than a government in this case? Do it our way or die we say. Isn't that what a dictator says? Once again, its a self perpetuating problem until we can bring it into awareness.
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2:23AM on 05/06/2015

The same guys

defending Joss Whedon's obvious sexism and transphobic comments and ideals in Avengers are the same people that were making ridiculous racial comments about Michael Jordan's casting in Fantastic Four.

Whedon doesn't deserve the death threats, but let's be real, you guys aren't better than the ones making them.
defending Joss Whedon's obvious sexism and transphobic comments and ideals in Avengers are the same people that were making ridiculous racial comments about Michael Jordan's casting in Fantastic Four.

Whedon doesn't deserve the death threats, but let's be real, you guys aren't better than the ones making them.
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8:38AM on 05/06/2015
Wow. Well in my opinion you're painting with a very wide brush. I admit to being one of the people who is not on board with FF yet. There have been a few things that have swayed me slightly of late (the official looks at the thing, and Kate Mara as Sue Storm is growing on me the more I see), but not enough to completely change my mind. So here is the difference. Many people on the site have taken the time to say why they are not on board. Tone, casting and character changes are among the
Wow. Well in my opinion you're painting with a very wide brush. I admit to being one of the people who is not on board with FF yet. There have been a few things that have swayed me slightly of late (the official looks at the thing, and Kate Mara as Sue Storm is growing on me the more I see), but not enough to completely change my mind. So here is the difference. Many people on the site have taken the time to say why they are not on board. Tone, casting and character changes are among the issues for me. That absolutely does not make me racist. One of my best friends is Jamaican and another is a Pakistani for goodness sake. I love them dearly and they would laugh at such an accusation. I'm sure the same goes for many others who have commented. What I have seen on the movie so far is just not for them or me and that's fine. I haven't slandered Josh Trank and I sure as hell have not sent him death threats or tweeted a single aggressive word. Once again I'm sure the same goes for many who have commented on disliking what they see of FF. To say that we are no better is seriously insulting to those who have explained their valid point of view.

Now I'm afraid as I read your comment I see someone who wants to make issues. You can see sexism and racism or whatever form of bigotry anywhere if you want to. I see no deliberate attempt at sexism any more than there is racism in not liking a casting choice. The problem though is this: keep shouting sexism and racism and YOU make it the issue. Whedon in my opinion made that mistake with his comment about Jurassic World which was likely a scene taken out of context. You propagate the problem by making it a point to rub it in people's faces where it does not exist. No one wants to live in an over PC world any more than they want to live in a bigoted one. Enough comments like this however and we start going down that road. Then the people who ARE bigots get their fuel and off we go again.
12:54AM on 05/06/2015

I get the "joke".

Josh Whedon complained that a scene in Jurassic World was "sexist". He misspoke: what it was was sexual harassment. Chris Pratt's character was hitting on his boss and creating a hostile workplace: his boss in that scene had every right to ignore his advances and could have filed a formal complaint.

Now we have Avengers: Age of Ultron and Black Widow is doing the same thing to the Bruce Banner. He isn't exactly uninterested but he is worried that if his heart raced too much he would Hulk
Josh Whedon complained that a scene in Jurassic World was "sexist". He misspoke: what it was was sexual harassment. Chris Pratt's character was hitting on his boss and creating a hostile workplace: his boss in that scene had every right to ignore his advances and could have filed a formal complaint.

Now we have Avengers: Age of Ultron and Black Widow is doing the same thing to the Bruce Banner. He isn't exactly uninterested but he is worried that if his heart raced too much he would Hulk out. It's his decision but she doesn't seem to want to take no for an answer.

So when Chris Pratt his on his boss and makes her feel uncomfortable it is sexist but when Black Widow hits on a co-worker and makes him feel uncomfortable it isn't? That's a double standard.

It still sucks that people have to lower themselves to name calling. Maybe people can try expressing themselves over multiple tweets instead of accusing Josh Whedon of being sexist.
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2:46AM on 05/06/2015
I wouldn't say he was hitting on his boss. I'd say they were in an uncomfortable position after their failed date, and they each handled it in their own way. They had a personal history. No formal complaint would go anywhere in this situation from what we saw anyway.
I wouldn't say he was hitting on his boss. I'd say they were in an uncomfortable position after their failed date, and they each handled it in their own way. They had a personal history. No formal complaint would go anywhere in this situation from what we saw anyway.
11:46PM on 05/06/2015
He was definitely hitting on her and making her uncomfortable. If he had been the boss and he was hitting on her then she would be expected to file a complaint. As it is, the best she could have done was to tell him that his behavior was unacceptable but she didn't do that.
He was definitely hitting on her and making her uncomfortable. If he had been the boss and he was hitting on her then she would be expected to file a complaint. As it is, the best she could have done was to tell him that his behavior was unacceptable but she didn't do that.
11:42PM on 05/05/2015
The problem is that most "real" feminists aren't even real feminists. They are tainted versions of what it means to believe in women.
You know what is REALLY sexist about this Black Widow issue? The fact that people seem to think that she cannot be a strong female character AND a WOMAN at the same time. We have thousands of movies where the muscle alpha male hero is saving the damsel in distress...for love...and that seems to be okay. When Black Widow shows she is still a woman, all the
The problem is that most "real" feminists aren't even real feminists. They are tainted versions of what it means to believe in women.
You know what is REALLY sexist about this Black Widow issue? The fact that people seem to think that she cannot be a strong female character AND a WOMAN at the same time. We have thousands of movies where the muscle alpha male hero is saving the damsel in distress...for love...and that seems to be okay. When Black Widow shows she is still a woman, all the sudden it's outlandish and sexist.
So she found a connection with Bruce, big deal? It's not even far-fetched. The first lulaby scene was beautifully done. She is a tough female character with no special powers and still a woman capable of love...like how Tony has Pepper, Hawkeye is married with kids...
The REAL sexists out there are the ones that won't let Widow be a woman and a strong character. I liked what they did with her and banner. Suggesting that all she is good for is being a killer takes away her humanity. The love story was beautiful. You don't want sexism? Start embracing what a REAL woman can do instead of limiting what they are supposed to do based on bs standards.
I don't follow Twitter so, that part doesn't bother me. Death threats are still inexcusable.

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12:58AM on 05/06/2015
No true Scotsman fallacy.
No true Scotsman fallacy.
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11:20PM on 05/05/2015

Lindeloffed?

Poor special little snowflake.
Poor special little snowflake.
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10:26PM on 05/05/2015
The attacks on twitter were simply trolls acting as faux feminists to attack & punish Whedon for recent pro-feminist twitter remarks.
The attacks on twitter were simply trolls acting as faux feminists to attack & punish Whedon for recent pro-feminist twitter remarks.
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11:12PM on 05/05/2015
I was kind of wondering. Or maybe not just any trolls, maybe rabid anti-liberals. Or maybe all of those and some feminists too. A lynch-mob of irrationals joining forces.
I was kind of wondering. Or maybe not just any trolls, maybe rabid anti-liberals. Or maybe all of those and some feminists too. A lynch-mob of irrationals joining forces.
8:27PM on 05/05/2015
Avenger: Age of cgi crapfest! Get talent Whedon! Watch Nolan and JJ's films and take notes. Cgi should be used to enhance, not for you to be lazy and create whole sets and characters. Death threats are bs and never deserves. Opinions shouldn't go that far
Avenger: Age of cgi crapfest! Get talent Whedon! Watch Nolan and JJ's films and take notes. Cgi should be used to enhance, not for you to be lazy and create whole sets and characters. Death threats are bs and never deserves. Opinions shouldn't go that far
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7:56PM on 05/05/2015
Any time a writer, director or other creative is on social media, it is a privilege for fans to have access to them. This disgusting vitriol that leads to someone as high profile in geek culture as Whedon quitting social media is a lose-lose for everyone.
Any time a writer, director or other creative is on social media, it is a privilege for fans to have access to them. This disgusting vitriol that leads to someone as high profile in geek culture as Whedon quitting social media is a lose-lose for everyone.
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6:50PM on 05/05/2015

Holy...

I just read some of the things people were tweeting about Joss from that Twitter Hate/Insults toward Whedon page and all I gotta say is...damn. Some people can be really unpleasant individuals. All because a director created a scenario in a move in which a woman in a locked cell was rescued by a man who likes her. Give me a fucking break.
I just read some of the things people were tweeting about Joss from that Twitter Hate/Insults toward Whedon page and all I gotta say is...damn. Some people can be really unpleasant individuals. All because a director created a scenario in a move in which a woman in a locked cell was rescued by a man who likes her. Give me a fucking break.
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7:22PM on 05/05/2015
that was the main point of ire? i didn't know liberals could get as stupid as the fox crowd.
that was the main point of ire? i didn't know liberals could get as stupid as the fox crowd.
8:10PM on 05/05/2015
Liberals are nothing but stupid.
Liberals are nothing but stupid.
12:00AM on 05/06/2015
Then you haven't been paying any attention the idiocy and iirationality knows no bounds on both sides.
Then you haven't been paying any attention the idiocy and iirationality knows no bounds on both sides.
6:14PM on 05/05/2015
These people have too much time on their hands, anyone who goes to see a summer movie then rails against (insert cause here) is simply an idiot. Because as well all know summer blockbusters are the cause of all our problems!
These people have too much time on their hands, anyone who goes to see a summer movie then rails against (insert cause here) is simply an idiot. Because as well all know summer blockbusters are the cause of all our problems!
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4:14PM on 05/05/2015

People are cruel.

But this guy's gotta get over himself. Loved Age of Ultron, still. He believes himself to be the immutable truth teller of all things.
But this guy's gotta get over himself. Loved Age of Ultron, still. He believes himself to be the immutable truth teller of all things.
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3:59PM on 05/05/2015
While Joss Whedon was a hypocrite for calling a 2 minute, out-of-context clip from Jurassic World "70's-era sexist", getting death threats from people just because they didn't like or agree with something you made that is completely harmless and, at the end of the day, completely inconsequential is never acceptable. The internet can be a horrid, hateful place sometimes.
While Joss Whedon was a hypocrite for calling a 2 minute, out-of-context clip from Jurassic World "70's-era sexist", getting death threats from people just because they didn't like or agree with something you made that is completely harmless and, at the end of the day, completely inconsequential is never acceptable. The internet can be a horrid, hateful place sometimes.
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3:14PM on 05/05/2015

Rodie

Woah, I'm really going to miss Joss Whedon's tweets!

Oh wait, I don't care. At all. This is not a story. I'm sure he'll be back to the Twittersphere at some point. And if not, life goes on. Oswalt's patronizing "good job guys tweet" is the most annoying part of this. Settle down, nerds.
Woah, I'm really going to miss Joss Whedon's tweets!

Oh wait, I don't care. At all. This is not a story. I'm sure he'll be back to the Twittersphere at some point. And if not, life goes on. Oswalt's patronizing "good job guys tweet" is the most annoying part of this. Settle down, nerds.
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3:08PM on 05/05/2015

People are retarded

This man has gone and done the near impossible TWICE. He's given us things I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE. EVER. How dare people nitpick these movies to death when look at what you're getting as a whole? The good far outweighs the bad.
This man has gone and done the near impossible TWICE. He's given us things I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE. EVER. How dare people nitpick these movies to death when look at what you're getting as a whole? The good far outweighs the bad.
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2:48PM on 05/05/2015
I think Patton Oswalt summed it up pretty well.
I think Patton Oswalt summed it up pretty well.
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3:08PM on 05/05/2015
Never thought I'd agree with Oswalt.
Never thought I'd agree with Oswalt.
6:08PM on 05/05/2015
Oswalt is an uneducated moron.

The behavior he's referring to is far more representative of the Occupy contagion, who enjoyed raping each other and passing along social diseases.
Oswalt is an uneducated moron.

The behavior he's referring to is far more representative of the Occupy contagion, who enjoyed raping each other and passing along social diseases.
6:19PM on 05/05/2015
MoatMan, how do know, are you the victim of one of those diseases?
MoatMan, how do know, are you the victim of one of those diseases?
7:09PM on 05/05/2015
There's a practice that adults engage in, called, "reading the news."

Some day you too will do it.
There's a practice that adults engage in, called, "reading the news."

Some day you too will do it.
7:25PM on 05/05/2015
Seriously Moat, if there is anybody here who is an uneducated moron, it is not Oswalt. Is that fox news you are talking about maybe?
Seriously Moat, if there is anybody here who is an uneducated moron, it is not Oswalt. Is that fox news you are talking about maybe?
8:09PM on 05/05/2015
What's wrong with FOX news? It's not like they hire Dan Rather or Brian Williams.

Stop parroting the idiocy of your professors. They're morons.
What's wrong with FOX news? It's not like they hire Dan Rather or Brian Williams.

Stop parroting the idiocy of your professors. They're morons.
2:44PM on 05/05/2015
These aren't comic book "fans" attacking him. These are obsessive Tumblr "'shipper" weirdos who didn't actually pay attention to things like themes and context, they are furious because they didn't get the Black Widow that only exists in their minds. I can't even imagine how these sad people deal with ACTUAL problems in their lives.
These aren't comic book "fans" attacking him. These are obsessive Tumblr "'shipper" weirdos who didn't actually pay attention to things like themes and context, they are furious because they didn't get the Black Widow that only exists in their minds. I can't even imagine how these sad people deal with ACTUAL problems in their lives.
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2:36PM on 05/05/2015
Haters gonna hate.
Haters gonna hate.
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2:31PM on 05/05/2015
Our society is way too sensitive these days. Downvote me all you want but at the end of the day this is the truth: anyone who has to "complain" about a movie such as Avengers: Age of Ultron is spoiled. Not liking it is one thing. But having "complaints", wanting to make death threats or claims about misogynistic "slut-shaming" - that's going way too far. For one, it's a movie. Go get fired up about real shit. And two, it was an epic movie. I could name a thousand movies with more plot holes,
Our society is way too sensitive these days. Downvote me all you want but at the end of the day this is the truth: anyone who has to "complain" about a movie such as Avengers: Age of Ultron is spoiled. Not liking it is one thing. But having "complaints", wanting to make death threats or claims about misogynistic "slut-shaming" - that's going way too far. For one, it's a movie. Go get fired up about real shit. And two, it was an epic movie. I could name a thousand movies with more plot holes, more "slut shaming" and everything these idiots complain about.
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3:17PM on 05/05/2015
Whedon's being "too sensitive" by leaving Twitter, then, right?
Whedon's being "too sensitive" by leaving Twitter, then, right?
2:04PM on 05/05/2015
People are so stupid. God forbid a character have a love story in an action movie.
People are so stupid. God forbid a character have a love story in an action movie.
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1:21PM on 05/05/2015
I actually loved the movie except some character bits (Thor's plotline with the pool) seemed glossed over. My complaint was one action sequence too many. And last year or early this year there was an article about Marvel requesting he go in and add some more action to the movie. The initial drone fight in Stark Tower was unnecessary and broke up the chilling dialogue exchange. Also the sequence inside the factory where Ultron steals the vibranium was useless until Scarlett Witch started doing
I actually loved the movie except some character bits (Thor's plotline with the pool) seemed glossed over. My complaint was one action sequence too many. And last year or early this year there was an article about Marvel requesting he go in and add some more action to the movie. The initial drone fight in Stark Tower was unnecessary and broke up the chilling dialogue exchange. Also the sequence inside the factory where Ultron steals the vibranium was useless until Scarlett Witch started doing her thing. There was enough action coming with the Hulkbuster sequence, the [link] sequence and the final battle that they didn't the little random mini fights.
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1:16PM on 05/05/2015

Good joss

Why anyone would want to post their life on Twitter is beyond me. Post about your movies and that's all.
Why anyone would want to post their life on Twitter is beyond me. Post about your movies and that's all.
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1:13PM on 05/05/2015
The Headline: "Joss Whedon quits Twitter over Avengers: Age of Ultron backlash"
The 1st Line of News: "...and although the director hasn't revealed why he quit the social media service, many believe it's because of the online criticism he has received for Avengers: Age of Ultron."
So, um, which is it?
The Headline: "Joss Whedon quits Twitter over Avengers: Age of Ultron backlash"
The 1st Line of News: "...and although the director hasn't revealed why he quit the social media service, many believe it's because of the online criticism he has received for Avengers: Age of Ultron."
So, um, which is it?
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1:06PM on 05/05/2015
I don't know why he deleted his twitter account, but Age of Ultron was pretty bad. It came off like it was inspired by the Transformer movies. CGI animation is cool and all, but two hours of badly animated toy commercials and dumb villains is a little much for anyone over the age of 12. Granted there is a boat load of money to be made focusing on that demo, and the greatest reason in the world to shoot for the lowest common denominator.
I don't know why he deleted his twitter account, but Age of Ultron was pretty bad. It came off like it was inspired by the Transformer movies. CGI animation is cool and all, but two hours of badly animated toy commercials and dumb villains is a little much for anyone over the age of 12. Granted there is a boat load of money to be made focusing on that demo, and the greatest reason in the world to shoot for the lowest common denominator.
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2:32PM on 05/05/2015
Your comment seems like the lowest common denominator.
Your comment seems like the lowest common denominator.
3:28PM on 05/05/2015
that is putting it mildly Jeff
that is putting it mildly Jeff
12:06AM on 05/06/2015
The Transformers movies wish they could be these films.
The Transformers movies wish they could be these films.
1:01PM on 05/05/2015

Why So Sensitive?!?

I don't feel bad for Joss Whedon. I agree that he's being mistreated and I actually thought Avengers: AOU was superior to 2012's Avengers, but his reaction is sensitive. He has already demonstrated a need to assert himself on Twitter as a gender hero and we know that he cares deeply about his image. Joss needs to embrace the trolling and just give it a couple weeks. He's only the central victim of trolling til the next big movie comes out. Worst case, he deals with this til Ant-Man.
I don't feel bad for Joss Whedon. I agree that he's being mistreated and I actually thought Avengers: AOU was superior to 2012's Avengers, but his reaction is sensitive. He has already demonstrated a need to assert himself on Twitter as a gender hero and we know that he cares deeply about his image. Joss needs to embrace the trolling and just give it a couple weeks. He's only the central victim of trolling til the next big movie comes out. Worst case, he deals with this til Ant-Man.
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4:27PM on 05/05/2015
Perfect response.
Perfect response.
12:57PM on 05/05/2015
If we don't know why he quit, maybe the headline shouldn't state why he quit
If we don't know why he quit, maybe the headline shouldn't state why he quit
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12:54PM on 05/05/2015
The first movie was already filled with women (and men) stereotypes, boring action, bland villain, cringe worthy dialogue and awful one liners... So why the big backlash now?
The first movie was already filled with women (and men) stereotypes, boring action, bland villain, cringe worthy dialogue and awful one liners... So why the big backlash now?
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12:51PM on 05/05/2015

For fuck's sake

To paraphrase MST3K: It's just a movie, you should really just relax. I am all for feminism and tolerance of others, and I can't wait for the day where we have superheroes of all genders, sex preferences, colors, etc. But anger and yelling at people and threatening them with death is not the way. The fight for tolerance has made people intolerant, and it's over a whole lot of bullshit. Seriously, you thought they were trying to equate infertility with being a monster? That's moronic. And Black
To paraphrase MST3K: It's just a movie, you should really just relax. I am all for feminism and tolerance of others, and I can't wait for the day where we have superheroes of all genders, sex preferences, colors, etc. But anger and yelling at people and threatening them with death is not the way. The fight for tolerance has made people intolerant, and it's over a whole lot of bullshit. Seriously, you thought they were trying to equate infertility with being a monster? That's moronic. And Black Widow was taken out of the team for, like, 4 minutes. All that lovey-dovey stuff between her and Banner was the weakest part of the movie for me, granted, but it fit her character fine. Both men and women fall in love and may let these feelings get in the way of their reason; it's human nature, not female nature. So get off Twitter, go for a walk, and get angrier at something that isn't a movie. Get angry at the people who treat gays / the transgendered / women like shit in real life. Stop blaming entertainment for the shittiness of people. Some people will be shitty to people different from them, no matter what you do. All you can do is be a good person yourself and stop trying to change the assholes. If anyone comes out of AVENGERS thinking "Women are stupid", then they are just as stupid as you. And I hope Joss Whedon is doing something meaningful with his time now that he doesn't have to worry about these fucking people.

Also, if anyone says the word "problematic" one more fucking time, I'm gonna have a flip out that would make the Hulk blush.
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12:26PM on 05/05/2015
People are complete morons. Especially people on movie sites who think they know every in and out about film. Meanwhile these losers have never picked up a camera and tried to make they're own movie. They just shit all over someon else's work because they will NEVER be that person. They'll continue to troll the Internet and think they are the ultimate movie critic, and they're opinion is the only one that matters. Internet has ruined the movie experience. And these fucking moronic people ruin
People are complete morons. Especially people on movie sites who think they know every in and out about film. Meanwhile these losers have never picked up a camera and tried to make they're own movie. They just shit all over someon else's work because they will NEVER be that person. They'll continue to troll the Internet and think they are the ultimate movie critic, and they're opinion is the only one that matters. Internet has ruined the movie experience. And these fucking moronic people ruin it too! So to all you hater trolls, go kill YOURSELVES.
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12:18PM on 05/05/2015
Good for him I love reading about movies but I hate posting my thoughts and this why. If you harve constructive critism about a movie then you should feel free to post it. But attacking someone personally and maliciously is wrong and it ruins the discussion for everyone. This should be an open forum not a podium for mean spirited people to spew their their crap.
Good for him I love reading about movies but I hate posting my thoughts and this why. If you harve constructive critism about a movie then you should feel free to post it. But attacking someone personally and maliciously is wrong and it ruins the discussion for everyone. This should be an open forum not a podium for mean spirited people to spew their their crap.
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12:15PM on 05/05/2015
I take it you all haven't heard what happened to him today? RIP Joss.
I take it you all haven't heard what happened to him today? RIP Joss.
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3:26PM on 05/05/2015
-9 Hehehehe yessssss
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12:07PM on 05/05/2015

Patton Oswalt is deeply ignorant

Maybe like all leftists, Whedon quit Twitter because he likes to dish out the moronic preaching (see Jurassic Park IV), but can't take any of it when it's thrown right back at him.

There's absolutely nothing badass about that.
Maybe like all leftists, Whedon quit Twitter because he likes to dish out the moronic preaching (see Jurassic Park IV), but can't take any of it when it's thrown right back at him.

There's absolutely nothing badass about that.
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12:15PM on 05/05/2015
Yes, because "all leftists" represent a collective thought process.
Yes, because "all leftists" represent a collective thought process.
1:54PM on 05/05/2015
This is easily the dumbest reasoning behind Whedon's actions I've ever heard. Yes he criticized Jurassic World, but he wasn't making death threats to Colin Trevarrow over Twitter.

And besides, AOU was in no way sexist or misogynistic. So the comments are just uncalled for and unjustified.
This is easily the dumbest reasoning behind Whedon's actions I've ever heard. Yes he criticized Jurassic World, but he wasn't making death threats to Colin Trevarrow over Twitter.

And besides, AOU was in no way sexist or misogynistic. So the comments are just uncalled for and unjustified.
6:10PM on 05/05/2015
@ Roy Batty - Leftists are collectivists, after all.

@ MickLoud - I was under the impression that you had read this reasoning, rather than read it. Regardless, where are the death threats that are being referred to. I'd like to read them myself.
@ Roy Batty - Leftists are collectivists, after all.

@ MickLoud - I was under the impression that you had read this reasoning, rather than read it. Regardless, where are the death threats that are being referred to. I'd like to read them myself.
6:24PM on 05/05/2015
I suppose everyone not owning Mein Kampf is a leftist to this gent.
I suppose everyone not owning Mein Kampf is a leftist to this gent.
7:07PM on 05/05/2015
Actually, Hitler was a leftist too.

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Actually, Hitler was a leftist too.

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7:28PM on 05/05/2015
actually you have got to be joking, right?
actually you have got to be joking, right?
8:12PM on 05/05/2015
Joking? Why?

Do you stupidly think that Nazis were all about free markets and limited government?
Joking? Why?

Do you stupidly think that Nazis were all about free markets and limited government?
11:18PM on 05/05/2015
Now if you consider Nazis to be leftists...in what kind of grouping does that put you?
Now if you consider Nazis to be leftists...in what kind of grouping does that put you?
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12:07PM on 05/05/2015
My girlfriend is really really good about picking out all things sexist, and she didn't notice anything. Nuff said.
My girlfriend is really really good about picking out all things sexist, and she didn't notice anything. Nuff said.
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11:53AM on 05/05/2015

People these days are just fucking ridiculous.

Celebrities have feelings too you know.This is not criticism,it is bullying.
Celebrities have feelings too you know.This is not criticism,it is bullying.
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11:52AM on 05/05/2015

I'm pretty sure

that literally anything you do with female characters will be called sexist by someone nowadays. Joss is awesome.
that literally anything you do with female characters will be called sexist by someone nowadays. Joss is awesome.
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11:47AM on 05/05/2015

People suck

It's awful that it happened like this, but if anybody deserves an extended vacation and a break from the public eye (social media included), it's Whedon. Age of Ultron burned him out in a BIG way, and the last thing he needs to hear about is fanboy complaints about a character and a romance that was actually handled VERY well and VERY convincingly.

Fanboys are so fickle. They loved Christopher Nolan, Sam Raimi, and Joss Whedon one day, and hated all of them the next. People suck.
It's awful that it happened like this, but if anybody deserves an extended vacation and a break from the public eye (social media included), it's Whedon. Age of Ultron burned him out in a BIG way, and the last thing he needs to hear about is fanboy complaints about a character and a romance that was actually handled VERY well and VERY convincingly.

Fanboys are so fickle. They loved Christopher Nolan, Sam Raimi, and Joss Whedon one day, and hated all of them the next. People suck.
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11:26AM on 05/05/2015
So, trying to purge Washington of spending zealots is the same as the internet group think Gestapo. Gotcha. Thanks Patton, I was wondering where I'd hear the biggest dumb ass statement today.
So, trying to purge Washington of spending zealots is the same as the internet group think Gestapo. Gotcha. Thanks Patton, I was wondering where I'd hear the biggest dumb ass statement today.
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11:23AM on 05/05/2015

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Once again people forget that directors, producers and movie stars are real people and that they do go online to see what people are saying.
Once again people forget that directors, producers and movie stars are real people and that they do go online to see what people are saying.
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11:09AM on 05/05/2015

Stupid Internet Trolls

Sheesh, and people wonder why people working in the entertainment industry don't like interacting with fans? In the words of the great William Shatner..... "Get a Life!"
Sheesh, and people wonder why people working in the entertainment industry don't like interacting with fans? In the words of the great William Shatner..... "Get a Life!"
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10:34AM on 05/05/2015

Maybe he is purging himself like Nolan

Christopher Nolan always goes on vacation and does a creative "pallet cleanser" once the movie he was working on comes out. It could be that Whedon just wants a break from it all.
Christopher Nolan always goes on vacation and does a creative "pallet cleanser" once the movie he was working on comes out. It could be that Whedon just wants a break from it all.
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10:33AM on 05/05/2015

The Dark Knight feeling....

Die and be a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
Die and be a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
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10:33AM on 05/05/2015
Yeah, I wonder why he quit. Maybe because of this: [link] Or this: [link] Or this: [link] ?

Jewel Staite tweeted: [link] ">
Yeah, I wonder why he quit. Maybe because of this: [link] Or this: [link] Or this: [link] ?

Jewel Staite tweeted: [link]
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10:40AM on 05/05/2015
So apparently Black Widow can't have a love interest in a man without it being sexist.
So apparently Black Widow can't have a love interest in a man without it being sexist.
10:52AM on 05/05/2015
Wow. That really is sad. I've never seen so many idiots in one place. Disgusting.
Wow. That really is sad. I've never seen so many idiots in one place. Disgusting.
10:29AM on 05/05/2015
Can't say I'll be depressed hearing from him less
Can't say I'll be depressed hearing from him less
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10:25AM on 05/05/2015

"although the director hasn't revealed why he quit" Soooooo.....

We don't know, so we'll make something up.
Worldwide: $630,271,109 and not even a week yet... (rental,streaming,dvd, bluray,licensing,etc.etc.)
Boo hoo. guess he'll take a huge cash payout to do a sequel of two or move on WHATEVER vanity project movie he wants now?
We don't know, so we'll make something up.
Worldwide: $630,271,109 and not even a week yet... (rental,streaming,dvd, bluray,licensing,etc.etc.)
Boo hoo. guess he'll take a huge cash payout to do a sequel of two or move on WHATEVER vanity project movie he wants now?
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10:38AM on 05/05/2015
Hmm. Its okay to enjoy what you do and want other people to enjoy it too. When you put your heart into something, money or no, its disappointing when it generates aggressive reactions like the ones described above. Its becoming quite well known that humans are at their happiest not when they are rich but when they have purpose. I know he's not curing cancer but bringing joy to people through entertainment is a valid purpose in my book. AOU certainly brightened up my day. Plus if he's
Hmm. Its okay to enjoy what you do and want other people to enjoy it too. When you put your heart into something, money or no, its disappointing when it generates aggressive reactions like the ones described above. Its becoming quite well known that humans are at their happiest not when they are rich but when they have purpose. I know he's not curing cancer but bringing joy to people through entertainment is a valid purpose in my book. AOU certainly brightened up my day. Plus if he's getting paid millions to do this stuff its because he got himself into a position where he can. No death threats required. Good for him.
10:21AM on 05/05/2015

The only thing we know is that he quit Twitter

We don't know why he quit yet and since Whedon has never been shy about telling what's on his mind, there's no doubt in my ind he will eventually tell us why he did so, so let's wait before jumping to conclusions.
We don't know why he quit yet and since Whedon has never been shy about telling what's on his mind, there's no doubt in my ind he will eventually tell us why he did so, so let's wait before jumping to conclusions.
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10:27AM on 05/05/2015
Yep, just as likely moved on to next project and isn't filling his spare time trawling twatter.
Yep, just as likely moved on to next project and isn't filling his spare time trawling twatter.
11:05AM on 05/05/2015
Bazinga.
Bazinga.
1:33PM on 05/05/2015
But how can he tell us? He quit Twitter....
But how can he tell us? He quit Twitter....
10:18AM on 05/05/2015
Most of these so-called "Fanboys" who tweet death threats and hate on films are usually talentless hacks who live in their mother's basements, wishing they could make half as good a film and nit pick every little thing about these movies. and it's always the same people doing it. Stop calling yourselves fans because you arent, Go out, get jobs and Get lives, idiots!
Most of these so-called "Fanboys" who tweet death threats and hate on films are usually talentless hacks who live in their mother's basements, wishing they could make half as good a film and nit pick every little thing about these movies. and it's always the same people doing it. Stop calling yourselves fans because you arent, Go out, get jobs and Get lives, idiots!
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10:17AM on 05/05/2015
That sucks and it's yet another example of how horrible people are in this world. I loved AOU, thought it was a great follow up to Avengers. But at the end of the day, it's a fucking movie people. It's just not worth your time and effort to attack and ridicule a person.

Frankly, most of the reasons people were attacking him for I didn't see that in the movie. I'm not sure how Black Widow was treated in a misogynist way. I have no issue with the Banner/Widow love story. And I'm not
That sucks and it's yet another example of how horrible people are in this world. I loved AOU, thought it was a great follow up to Avengers. But at the end of the day, it's a fucking movie people. It's just not worth your time and effort to attack and ridicule a person.

Frankly, most of the reasons people were attacking him for I didn't see that in the movie. I'm not sure how Black Widow was treated in a misogynist way. I have no issue with the Banner/Widow love story. And I'm not really aware of too many plot holes in the film, the only complaint I had with it was Thor's subplot was not fleshed out enough, but whatever I can deal with it.

Fanboys are the worst!
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10:12AM on 05/05/2015

Idiots

Some people just can't appreciate anything. The fact that these movies are being made is a dream come true. Whedon did a great job with these movies. What more to people want? Get a life and stop bitching! Whedon rules! Avengers rule! Comic book movies being made rules most of all!
Some people just can't appreciate anything. The fact that these movies are being made is a dream come true. Whedon did a great job with these movies. What more to people want? Get a life and stop bitching! Whedon rules! Avengers rule! Comic book movies being made rules most of all!
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10:06AM on 05/05/2015
I think he just had enough. He's leaving Marvel movies for now which had some fans calling him a traitor, Ultron really does have some problems and looks like some things were taken out so maybe some pressure from above. With all the problems during the publicity for it he and all the actors look to be exhausted and may just want to put it all behind them for a bit.
I think he just had enough. He's leaving Marvel movies for now which had some fans calling him a traitor, Ultron really does have some problems and looks like some things were taken out so maybe some pressure from above. With all the problems during the publicity for it he and all the actors look to be exhausted and may just want to put it all behind them for a bit.
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10:04AM on 05/05/2015
I am embarrassed at how bad this world has become.
I am embarrassed at how bad this world has become.
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11:46AM on 05/05/2015
You're embarrassed at people saying mean things on Twitter? Not, you know, the hundreds of people murdered every day over their faith or in the commission of violent crimes?

I like Joss, but I'm not going to cry for him over people saying mean things. That's happened since the dawn of man.
You're embarrassed at people saying mean things on Twitter? Not, you know, the hundreds of people murdered every day over their faith or in the commission of violent crimes?

I like Joss, but I'm not going to cry for him over people saying mean things. That's happened since the dawn of man.
12:58PM on 05/05/2015
Before you keep on criticizing others you should face up to your own lies, Des. And apologize for your infantile insults.
Before you keep on criticizing others you should face up to your own lies, Des. And apologize for your infantile insults.
1:05PM on 05/05/2015
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10:00AM on 05/05/2015
Good for him. Twatter is a useless device to begin with. 'Trending' is not an important thing folks.
Good for him. Twatter is a useless device to begin with. 'Trending' is not an important thing folks.
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9:58AM on 05/05/2015
People these day suck.
People these day suck.
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9:56AM on 05/05/2015
Saw the Avengers Age of Ultron tonight. It rocked. Plain and simple. F*#& them all Joss. F*#@ them all.
Saw the Avengers Age of Ultron tonight. It rocked. Plain and simple. F*#& them all Joss. F*#@ them all.
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9:56AM on 05/05/2015
My first thought was "Ugh, he's such a crybaby" because, well, he can be (and this is coming from a pretty bit Whedon fan). However, then I got to the part about death threats and telling him to kill himself. I am so sick of that being the internet's go-to response for everything. Whether it's a teenager who appears in a stupid viral video, a woman who makes a video game with a feminist slant, or a dude who makes a movie that didn't quite live up to people's astronomic expectations, "kill
My first thought was "Ugh, he's such a crybaby" because, well, he can be (and this is coming from a pretty bit Whedon fan). However, then I got to the part about death threats and telling him to kill himself. I am so sick of that being the internet's go-to response for everything. Whether it's a teenager who appears in a stupid viral video, a woman who makes a video game with a feminist slant, or a dude who makes a movie that didn't quite live up to people's astronomic expectations, "kill yourself" has become the internet's mantra. It's so, so fucked.
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9:52AM on 05/05/2015
if thats really the reason then what a baby
if thats really the reason then what a baby
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9:50AM on 05/05/2015
Age of Ultron was great and fun as hell and was a real game changer for the MCU. Can't wait to see Ant Man and Phase Three.
Age of Ultron was great and fun as hell and was a real game changer for the MCU. Can't wait to see Ant Man and Phase Three.
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9:48AM on 05/05/2015
People complain way too much about way too much.
People complain way too much about way too much.
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9:46AM on 05/05/2015
Idiot fanboys always gotta ruin everything, grow up losers!
Idiot fanboys always gotta ruin everything, grow up losers!
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9:46AM on 05/05/2015
Well its his business. He wants to close his twitter account then close it he should. In many ways I don't blame him. I can't imagine the pressure of making something like AOU. Most of us are seriously spoiled these days. I think he did his best and a fine job at that. I love most of his stuff including AOU and look forward to what comes next.
Well its his business. He wants to close his twitter account then close it he should. In many ways I don't blame him. I can't imagine the pressure of making something like AOU. Most of us are seriously spoiled these days. I think he did his best and a fine job at that. I love most of his stuff including AOU and look forward to what comes next.
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