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Review: Terminator: Genisys

Terminator: Genisys
06.30.2015
5 10
 

PLOT: After defeating Skynet, John Connor (Jason Clarke) sends soldier Kyle Reese (Jai Courtney) back in time to protect his mother Sarah Connor (Emilia Clarke) who’s been targeted for termination. When Reese arrives in 1984, he discovers that Sarah is more than prepared to fend for herself, having been raised by a paternal T-800 “Pops” (Arnold Schwarzenegger). Now, the three of them must stop a diabolical new plan to launch Judgment Day in 2017 in an alternate timeline where the machines will be able to exterminate mankind once and for all.

REVIEW: Here we go. Walking into TERMINATOR: GENISYS I’ll admit I was skeptical. Having been raised on the first two movies, I’ve watched in horror as the franchise has just been run into the ground thanks to subpar, James Cameron-less follow-ups, with TERMINATOR: SALVATION arguably being the series nadir. On the positive side, fans can rest assured that GENISYS is far better than SALVATION as for all of its faults it has one giant Austrian ace up its sleeve. But, being better than TERMINATOR: SALVATION isn’t much of an achievement.

Truly, a TERMINATOR film couldn’t and shouldn’t be made without Arnold Schwarzenegger. He’s the face of the franchise and for good reason as he proves here just how much goodwill he can generate for even the slightest material. Sure enough, GENISYS is pretty bad, but Arnold keeps it from being the outright disaster it no doubt would have been without him.

There’s been much buzz over how the timelines are played with, making this a kind of BACK TO THE FUTURE 2 of TERMINATOR sequels. This franchise retconning is headache inducing as the more you think about it logically, the more the premise starts to fall apart. Then again, no one goes to these movies for realism so if the film had at least been entertaining this would have been forgiven. Sadly, it’s not entertaining at all.

At its worst, TERMINATOR: GENISYS is simply a watered-down PG-13 cliffs notes version of the franchise, designed to appeal to the family audience that has made the Marvel movies so massive. As such, of the two hour run time, at least ninety percent of it is devoted to CGI heavy chase scenes where the laws of physics need not apply. This is the kind of movie where Reese and a Terminator chase each other in CGI helicopters that pull 360 degree flip-flops under bridges while flying through explosions, while Clarke’s Sarah Connor and Arnie fire cannons out the back seemingly destroying half of San Francisco. It seems director Alan Taylor has been brought on board to bring this as close to being a Marvel movie as possible, complete with franchise building, comic relief (including a decades-late shout out to ‘Cops’) and even a post-credits tease.

 

The only way this movie could really work is for younger audiences who have never seen the first two films. They won’t know what they’re missing so they might have fun. Those of us that have seen the first two aren’t so lucky. The absolute worst thing about this reboot is how the Sarah Connor/Kyle Reese romance has been watered down. The life and death romance of the first film is gone, replaced by lots of chases and no romance. Emilia Clarke and Jai Courtney don’t fare well in their parts as neither seems to be taking the film at all seriously – but can you blame them? All Clarke and Courtney get to do is shoot-weapons and make wisecracks – neither has any personality whatsoever. Jason Clarke as John Connor fares even worse, with a truly boneheaded decision having been made along the way to totally revamp the part, with a twist (that’s revealed in the trailers but which I won’t go into here) betraying everything about the character that we know. For his part, Clarke – normally a good actor – is bland.

Basically, this is Arnie’s show. While playing a machine, he’s the only one that shows any life. Truly he’s got the part down cold, and when he’s on-screen the movie comes close to working. His age is addressed, and he even manages to convey a little warmth towards Emilia Clarke, with the twist here being that she has better chemistry with him than with Courtney. The only time this movie entertains is when Arnie’s doing his thing, but don’t think for a second this is his movie. He gets star billing, but he’s supporting Courtney and Clarke, with him being off-screen for big chunks of time. Outside of Arnie, the only one who shows any life is J.K Simmons as the defacto comic relief, being a paranoid cop who ran afoul Byung-hun Lee’s T-1000 in 1984.

It’s really a shame that TERMINATOR: GENISYS is such a lame addition to the franchise as clearly Arnold is still capable of playing the part. Outside of James Cameron or a really inspired director coming on board to revamp things it seems like creatively this is the end of the road for the franchise. While we might get more movies, they’ll be TERMINATOR in name only, which is basically all this is.

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10:14PM on 12/10/2015

Terminator Genisys was f-ing awesome!

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6:40AM on 07/14/2015
I just saw it. It was marginally better than Terminator 3 and I thought Terminator 3 was okay. For those wondering if Terminator 3 is still canon, well, it has to be because Judgement Day happened, although technically the timeline changed altogether so technically neither Terminator 2 nor 3 happened. And, no, John Conner did not become the bad guy: it was a terminator that looked like John Conner and had John Conner's memories.
I just saw it. It was marginally better than Terminator 3 and I thought Terminator 3 was okay. For those wondering if Terminator 3 is still canon, well, it has to be because Judgement Day happened, although technically the timeline changed altogether so technically neither Terminator 2 nor 3 happened. And, no, John Conner did not become the bad guy: it was a terminator that looked like John Conner and had John Conner's memories.
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6:21PM on 07/01/2015

WHAT A CRAP!!!

Just saw it (in France), stupid script, bad VFX, awful cast... The worst of the franchise and TV series.
Just saw it (in France), stupid script, bad VFX, awful cast... The worst of the franchise and TV series.
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1:52PM on 07/01/2015
Gonna watch it anyway. I liked all of them and the TV series.
Gonna watch it anyway. I liked all of them and the TV series.
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1:20PM on 07/01/2015

I am not suprized.

I think the point being that this is TERMINATOR and like the Alien movies didn't really deserve a series of mediocre sequels. The fact that we are now 30 years on from the original with more of a budget and they cant even measure closely to what Cameron achieved 30 years ago. Is it that Camerons classics are untouchable in which case no sequels should have been made? Or is it that the Terminator franchise has just become a cash cow and we are seeing the result of films with no real heart and
I think the point being that this is TERMINATOR and like the Alien movies didn't really deserve a series of mediocre sequels. The fact that we are now 30 years on from the original with more of a budget and they cant even measure closely to what Cameron achieved 30 years ago. Is it that Camerons classics are untouchable in which case no sequels should have been made? Or is it that the Terminator franchise has just become a cash cow and we are seeing the result of films with no real heart and understanding of the material?
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12:45PM on 07/01/2015

I feel bad for Arnold, he deserves a better Terminator sequel from a filmmaking team who will actually put in the hard work.

This film had problems long before filming even began. The minute I heard Jai Courtney was playing Kyle Reese my initial reaction to this was, "Did the producers not see any of the previous Terminator films?" Courtney looks nothing like Kyle Reese! If anything Courtney should be playing a Terminator at best. He looks more like a Terminator than Michael Biehn and Anton Yelchin!"
This film had problems long before filming even began. The minute I heard Jai Courtney was playing Kyle Reese my initial reaction to this was, "Did the producers not see any of the previous Terminator films?" Courtney looks nothing like Kyle Reese! If anything Courtney should be playing a Terminator at best. He looks more like a Terminator than Michael Biehn and Anton Yelchin!"
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11:32AM on 07/01/2015
Way better than this review makes it sound. Just go and have fun. This review feels like someone who expects way too much from an installment in the series. And Arnold is not the only entertaining thing in the movie at all. This disgust is very unfounded. Ignore the hate, it's a blast.
Way better than this review makes it sound. Just go and have fun. This review feels like someone who expects way too much from an installment in the series. And Arnold is not the only entertaining thing in the movie at all. This disgust is very unfounded. Ignore the hate, it's a blast.
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10:14AM on 07/03/2015
Agreed.
Agreed.
11:11AM on 07/01/2015
Saw it last night. The first 20 minutes are nostalgic fun but then it's all downhill from there. It's just plain boring.
Saw it last night. The first 20 minutes are nostalgic fun but then it's all downhill from there. It's just plain boring.
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10:41AM on 07/01/2015
I'm sure this movie will be more entertaining than Avengers 2. That movie was horribly boring yet got "raving reviews" due to fandom. (Let the downvotes commence from all the MCU Zombies.)
I'm sure this movie will be more entertaining than Avengers 2. That movie was horribly boring yet got "raving reviews" due to fandom. (Let the downvotes commence from all the MCU Zombies.)
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1:39AM on 07/01/2015
I liked it, damn people are nit picky little bitches anymore! People are not even hiding their bias about premature hate. It is undoubtedly better than the last two, if it has any drawbacks, it's taking ideas from the tv show.
I liked it, damn people are nit picky little bitches anymore! People are not even hiding their bias about premature hate. It is undoubtedly better than the last two, if it has any drawbacks, it's taking ideas from the tv show.
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12:55AM on 07/01/2015
I'd give the film more of a 6 or even a 7. It wasn't really bad. I liked all actors involved, and while I thought the story was completely ridiculous, I could still get behind the characters and I thought that the actors fared well in their respective roles, even Jason Clarke. Jai and Emilia are both fairly charismatic actors, and that went a long way for this movie. I had to separate myself from the first two films. I already went in knowing it wouldn't be those, but I still had fun with it.
I'd give the film more of a 6 or even a 7. It wasn't really bad. I liked all actors involved, and while I thought the story was completely ridiculous, I could still get behind the characters and I thought that the actors fared well in their respective roles, even Jason Clarke. Jai and Emilia are both fairly charismatic actors, and that went a long way for this movie. I had to separate myself from the first two films. I already went in knowing it wouldn't be those, but I still had fun with it. The action is really good. Arnie still kills his part. No, it cannot stand with T1 and T2, but I thought it was a heck of a lot better than T3 and Salvation. It will still likely go forgotten much as Salvation and T3 have for the series, but it was an enjoyable time waster. That said, they should probably stop making Terminator movies.
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1:44AM on 07/01/2015
This response is better than the entire above review, thanks for being unbiased.
This response is better than the entire above review, thanks for being unbiased.
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9:27PM on 06/30/2015
It's weird how three non-Cameron Terminator films have been made and not a single one of them has even attempted to recreate the gravitas of the original 2.
It's weird how three non-Cameron Terminator films have been made and not a single one of them has even attempted to recreate the gravitas of the original 2.
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9:18PM on 06/30/2015
Now call me crazy but this movie doesn't look like it takes place in the 80s as it should
Now call me crazy but this movie doesn't look like it takes place in the 80s as it should
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11:12AM on 07/01/2015
it takes place in 2017. You are crazy.
it takes place in 2017. You are crazy.
9:03PM on 06/30/2015
Bash Salvation all you want but it was a much better movie then T3 and apparently this one.
Bash Salvation all you want but it was a much better movie then T3 and apparently this one.
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9:22PM on 06/30/2015
I disagree about Salvation being better than T3. Salvation was generic and completely void of anything. T3 wasn't great, but it had some things going for it. It certainly got far better reviews. That ending was very well done. T3 was just watered down with being overly meta and silly at times. But the story was alright, and the actors did a good job. They were believable at least (unlike anyone in Salvation).
I disagree about Salvation being better than T3. Salvation was generic and completely void of anything. T3 wasn't great, but it had some things going for it. It certainly got far better reviews. That ending was very well done. T3 was just watered down with being overly meta and silly at times. But the story was alright, and the actors did a good job. They were believable at least (unlike anyone in Salvation).
8:12PM on 06/30/2015
Looks like Arnold may be eating his words after criticizing Terminator Salvation, since reviews for this new entry are terrible.

It's a same though. Would have been nice to see another great Terminator film with the tone and quality of Cameron's first two.
Looks like Arnold may be eating his words after criticizing Terminator Salvation, since reviews for this new entry are terrible.

It's a same though. Would have been nice to see another great Terminator film with the tone and quality of Cameron's first two.
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6:01PM on 06/30/2015
"On the positive side, fans can rest assured that GENISYS is far better than SALVATION as for all of its faults it has one giant Austrian ace up its sleeve". At least Salvation try a different approach, without destroying the timeline. And Courtnei and Clarke are possibly the less appealing blockbuster movie stars of the last decade.
"On the positive side, fans can rest assured that GENISYS is far better than SALVATION as for all of its faults it has one giant Austrian ace up its sleeve". At least Salvation try a different approach, without destroying the timeline. And Courtnei and Clarke are possibly the less appealing blockbuster movie stars of the last decade.
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5:43PM on 06/30/2015
SO Arnie is the only reason to see this movie? Good enough for me, but it's really sad how downhill the Terminator franchise has gone, it's very similar to how far the Die Hard franchise went south as well, ironically Jai Courtney has been in both, is he a curse now?
SO Arnie is the only reason to see this movie? Good enough for me, but it's really sad how downhill the Terminator franchise has gone, it's very similar to how far the Die Hard franchise went south as well, ironically Jai Courtney has been in both, is he a curse now?
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5:01PM on 06/30/2015

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He's back?? ..mmh not really...
He's back?? ..mmh not really...
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4:51PM on 06/30/2015
Ugh, just this franchise die already. This movie looks like dogshit. T1 & T2 are the only ones that matter.
Ugh, just this franchise die already. This movie looks like dogshit. T1 & T2 are the only ones that matter.
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4:45PM on 06/30/2015
I almost went to see it, but with 22% on Rotten Tomatoes and 5/10 here I will save the money.
I almost went to see it, but with 22% on Rotten Tomatoes and 5/10 here I will save the money.
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3:07AM on 07/04/2015
Can you not form your own opinions?
Can you not form your own opinions?
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4:20PM on 06/30/2015

with all due respect

while i do respect all of the movie knowledge from mr bumbray, i'm sure not going to let this review make or break me from seeing this movie. those of you who won't see it, already weren't. bumbray is good at reviewing indie movies or dramas. not summer blockbusters. i will choose to believe what cameron said about this movie as opposed to mr bumbray.
while i do respect all of the movie knowledge from mr bumbray, i'm sure not going to let this review make or break me from seeing this movie. those of you who won't see it, already weren't. bumbray is good at reviewing indie movies or dramas. not summer blockbusters. i will choose to believe what cameron said about this movie as opposed to mr bumbray.
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5:45PM on 06/30/2015
I totally agree with you, I always take his reviews with a grain of salt.
I totally agree with you, I always take his reviews with a grain of salt.
6:33PM on 06/30/2015
I will choose to believe my own opinion that this movie looks like a stupid mess based on the trailers so I will not watch it unless someone buys me the ticket or when it's on Netflix.
I will choose to believe my own opinion that this movie looks like a stupid mess based on the trailers so I will not watch it unless someone buys me the ticket or when it's on Netflix.
4:01PM on 06/30/2015
Well I don't wanna say I told you so BUT this movie outlines everything wrong with Hollywood. Lack of originality and creative writing means films are just remade and sequelled and prequelled to the 9th degree. At least with Marvel they have a roster of characters therefore it can be different but this is turning gold into quite frankly rubber. The original 2 films are admired as classics for different reasons but the problem in these films is making them PG and therefore removing any
Well I don't wanna say I told you so BUT this movie outlines everything wrong with Hollywood. Lack of originality and creative writing means films are just remade and sequelled and prequelled to the 9th degree. At least with Marvel they have a roster of characters therefore it can be different but this is turning gold into quite frankly rubber. The original 2 films are admired as classics for different reasons but the problem in these films is making them PG and therefore removing any potentially adult theme of the film and also this incessant need to change things in this case Connor, why the fuck would you do to John Connor the one thing that would piss off the most fans? This franchise could have existed better with proper direction but they've practically murdered it again, at least with Salvation you saw the human vs machines element, for me and I've said it countless times before, the way the new arc should have gone was to focus on the future and the discovery of time travel and the making of the T1000 bringing back Robert Patrick as a scientist who creates the liquid form and then explore that route but for gods sake getting the casting of Rees and Hamilton right - something this film clearly lacks
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3:57PM on 06/30/2015
Exactly what I was thinking the whole time about this project. Very sad indeed, even when you said that Arnie can still bring it as the Terminator. It would truly be a spectacle if Cameron actually had a hand in writing this. Third time is definitely not a charm after his departure.
Exactly what I was thinking the whole time about this project. Very sad indeed, even when you said that Arnie can still bring it as the Terminator. It would truly be a spectacle if Cameron actually had a hand in writing this. Third time is definitely not a charm after his departure.
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3:23PM on 06/30/2015

" You will love Terminator Genisys " (James Cameron)

everyman on earth should have a friend like you James...
everyman on earth should have a friend like you James...
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3:22PM on 06/30/2015
Wasn't gonna see it anyway, decided, what the Hell, I'll read the detailed plot synopsis on Wikipedia. Oh dear Lord, now I'll never see it even on FX. Talk about stupid garbage.
Wasn't gonna see it anyway, decided, what the Hell, I'll read the detailed plot synopsis on Wikipedia. Oh dear Lord, now I'll never see it even on FX. Talk about stupid garbage.
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3:11PM on 06/30/2015

Doesn't surprise me in the least

This negative review is exactly what I was expecting...ugh, so sad. God, can't shitty producers realize all a franchise needs to work is a good freaking director? I mean, it's not like there are none out there. Instead they go with cheap directors who don't know shit from shinola. Oh well, the downward spiral continues....I'm still checking it out cause I'm curious...but my expectations are set extremely low.
This negative review is exactly what I was expecting...ugh, so sad. God, can't shitty producers realize all a franchise needs to work is a good freaking director? I mean, it's not like there are none out there. Instead they go with cheap directors who don't know shit from shinola. Oh well, the downward spiral continues....I'm still checking it out cause I'm curious...but my expectations are set extremely low.
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3:04PM on 06/30/2015
I was on the fence about Genisys, but out of all the the reviews I've read, this is the one that has convinced me not to see it. The only director that can outdo James Cameron, is James Cameron!
I was on the fence about Genisys, but out of all the the reviews I've read, this is the one that has convinced me not to see it. The only director that can outdo James Cameron, is James Cameron!
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3:03PM on 06/30/2015
Just what I was expecting. Great review as always, by the way.
Just what I was expecting. Great review as always, by the way.
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3:03PM on 06/30/2015
Before reading this review I had the feeling it would be a 5 or 6. Fine by me. Arrow in the Head gave it a 7. I may check it out with my pops for a good times sake, but I'll shut my brain down in the process.
Before reading this review I had the feeling it would be a 5 or 6. Fine by me. Arrow in the Head gave it a 7. I may check it out with my pops for a good times sake, but I'll shut my brain down in the process.
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