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James Gunn and Ryan Reynolds sound off on the success of Deadpool

02.15.2016

It's been a long and hard road, but DEADPOOL has fortunately found some financial success, and as you can imagine, Ryan Reynolds couldn't be happier. Ever the affable man, Reynolds took to Facebook to thank everyone for their support and to let them know he's on cloud f*ckin' 9. Well deserved, I'd say!

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That ain't pavement he's walking on. It's sunshine. Thank you to the ‪#‎Deadpool‬ fans who took us from leaked test footage all the way to the main event. It's because of you, we got to make the real Deadpool. The right way.

Meanwhile, a director of another oddball comic film, James Gunn, had more than a few words to share with Deadline about why DEADPOOL has succeeded. You can check out the entire rant here, but I've included some of the highlights for you below.

James Gunn on the success of DEADPOOL:

The film has a self-deprecating tone that’s riotous. It’s never been done before. It’s poking fun at Marvel. That label takes itself so seriously, can you imagine them making fun of themselves in a movie? They’d rather stab themselves.

Let’s ignore Guardians for a moment, a movie that survives from moment to moment building itself up and cutting itself down – God knows I’m biased about that one. But what do you think Favreau and Downey did in Iron Man? What the f*ck was Ant-Man??!

After every movie smashes records people here in Hollywood love to throw out the definitive reasons why the movie was a hit. I saw it happen with Guardians. It “wasn’t afraid to be fun” or it “was colorful and funny” etc etc etc. And next thing I know I hear of a hundred film projects being set up “like Guardians,” and I start seeing dozens of trailers exactly like the Guardians trailer with a big pop song and a bunch of quips. Ugh.

Deadpool wasn’t that. Deadpool was its own thing. THAT’S what people are reacting to. It’s original, it’s damn good, it was made with love by the filmmakers, and it wasn’t afraid to take risks. But hopefully in the midst of all this there will be a studio or two that will take the right lesson from this – like Fox did with Guardians by green-lighting Deadpool – and say – “Boy, maybe we can give them something they don’t already have."

And that’s who is going to succeed.

Gunn has a point, of course, but that's not going stop studios from trying to mimic some of the success of DEADPOOL with their own iterations. With that said, if this success allows more R-rated comic book properties, and a DEADPOOL sequel, to come to fruition, so be it! I pay that price gladly!

DEADPOOL is now in theaters.

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1:29AM on 02/16/2016

Lmao

"and I start seeing dozens of trailers exactly like the Guardians trailer with a big pop song and a bunch of quips. Ugh."
Oh the shade James is throwing at Suicide Squad. Marvel folks just need any goddamn excuse to attack their rivals.
"and I start seeing dozens of trailers exactly like the Guardians trailer with a big pop song and a bunch of quips. Ugh."
Oh the shade James is throwing at Suicide Squad. Marvel folks just need any goddamn excuse to attack their rivals.
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8:13PM on 02/15/2016
Thing is, despite what Gunn says, there is a formula that has been established with successful Marvel and DC films. Successful Marvel films are fun whereas successful DC films are serious. The X-Men, Avengers and Raimi Spider-Man movies are fun. The Dark Knight, Man of Steel and Watchmen movies are serious. It used to be the reverse: Supergirl, Steel, Catwoman, the later Superman movies and the later Batman movies were too jokey in tone and DC decided they needed to go dark whereas Blade,
Thing is, despite what Gunn says, there is a formula that has been established with successful Marvel and DC films. Successful Marvel films are fun whereas successful DC films are serious. The X-Men, Avengers and Raimi Spider-Man movies are fun. The Dark Knight, Man of Steel and Watchmen movies are serious. It used to be the reverse: Supergirl, Steel, Catwoman, the later Superman movies and the later Batman movies were too jokey in tone and DC decided they needed to go dark whereas Blade, Punisher, Daredevil, Hulk and Ghost Rider were all very serious and whereas some of these movies got critical acclaim they didn't do well at the box office so Marvel started spicing things up with humor and it worked. The tone of Marvel and DC TV, meanwhile, tend to be the opposite of their cinematic partners: Agents of SHIELD, Daredevil and Jessica Jones are all more serious than the Marvel movies whereas Flash, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow are more fun than the DC movies. Supergirl won't appear in DC movies because she is too silly and Daredevil et al won't appear in Marvel movies because he is too serious. Flash appears on TV and will also be in movies so you can guarantee that the Flash in the movies will be more serious than the TV show. Certain characters like Daredevil, the Punisher, Blade, Ghost Rider, Batman or the Suicide Squad lend themselves to a darker tone so Marvel will save Daredevil, the Punisher, Blade and Ghost Rider for TV and DC will save Batman and the Suicide Squad for the movies.

My point is that Deadpool ended up feeling like a Marvel film. People saw the trailers for Deadpool and saw that there was a lot of humor and saw the Marvel logo and thought "That's it. We're going." When you consider the success of the movie you have to consider how the movie was marketed: most people who went to see the movie either hadn't heard of Deadpool. (Recall that the character was never called Deadpool in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.) People were going to see a funny Marvel movie. Similarly, if Batman v Superman is a success next month it will be because the trailers make it look as though Christian Bale grew older and became Ben Affleck.

The sad thing is that it is when people really try to be original that things don't work. Fant4stic was original in that it was not only a dark Marvel movie it was a dark Fantastic Four movie that isn't right at all. Green Lantern was original with all the CGI but Ryan Reynold's joking about how cool the suit looked fell completely flat. Green Lantern needed to be taken a bit more seriously. Fantastic Four needed to lighten up. You got that just from watching the trailers.

Seriously, Deadpool made $134 million on the first weekend. You don't do that by being original. You do that by giving people what they expect.
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7:58PM on 02/15/2016
I'm glad Deadpool was a success. Like majority of the fans out there, I'm hoping with this and Daredevil, it will open up studios to make more R-rated comic book films. I always felt Marvel played it too safe with their films. I understand it attracts more of an audience, but after a while it starts to feel over saturated.
I'm glad Deadpool was a success. Like majority of the fans out there, I'm hoping with this and Daredevil, it will open up studios to make more R-rated comic book films. I always felt Marvel played it too safe with their films. I understand it attracts more of an audience, but after a while it starts to feel over saturated.
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7:46PM on 02/15/2016

DCU Take Notice!!

Lighten up!
Lighten up!
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5:19PM on 02/15/2016
Well deserved. Now let's see Poolie presenting at the Oscars.
Well deserved. Now let's see Poolie presenting at the Oscars.
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2:47AM on 02/16/2016
I actually don't want him to present as such. Just be a pain in the ass by appearing in the background of shots, be a seat holder or maybe even pop up with a comic style still speech bubble with a dubious Double entendre or two.
I actually don't want him to present as such. Just be a pain in the ass by appearing in the background of shots, be a seat holder or maybe even pop up with a comic style still speech bubble with a dubious Double entendre or two.
5:02PM on 02/15/2016
Yes, this! And James Gunn nailed it. But only Deadpool could really do this. That character exists to hold a mirror up to the world of Marvel and point out how ridiculous it all is. Most of the time I know exactly what to expect from a superhero movie. When Guardians came along I knew that was going to be different. That's probably why I shelled out the money to see it in theaters. I did that for Deadpool to encourage R-rated comic entries in February, but also because I wanted to see them
Yes, this! And James Gunn nailed it. But only Deadpool could really do this. That character exists to hold a mirror up to the world of Marvel and point out how ridiculous it all is. Most of the time I know exactly what to expect from a superhero movie. When Guardians came along I knew that was going to be different. That's probably why I shelled out the money to see it in theaters. I did that for Deadpool to encourage R-rated comic entries in February, but also because I wanted to see them break the mold of self-serious comic adaptations. I like those movies, but with few exceptions they aren't exciting to me in the way they once were (I still wanna check out Suicide Squad though).
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4:57PM on 02/15/2016
I'm confused. I guess I need to read the entire interview, but it sounds like Gunn is kinda taking credit for deadpool getting green lit bc of GOTG's success. I've never read or seen anything where Gunn doesnt seem down to earth but he sounds like a dick. DP is R, not a sci fi opera, fox and marvel don't really get along, GOTG is part of the huge marvel brand and they used avengers in some late trailers, DP script had been written for awhile, for some reason the character has become huge, and
I'm confused. I guess I need to read the entire interview, but it sounds like Gunn is kinda taking credit for deadpool getting green lit bc of GOTG's success. I've never read or seen anything where Gunn doesnt seem down to earth but he sounds like a dick. DP is R, not a sci fi opera, fox and marvel don't really get along, GOTG is part of the huge marvel brand and they used avengers in some late trailers, DP script had been written for awhile, for some reason the character has become huge, and then of course the major reason, in my opinion, the leaked footage. I don't think GOTG did a lot to help deadpool. Kingsman did more, if one film did
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1:32AM on 02/16/2016
Aye, Kingsman AND Kick-Ass.
Makes me wonder if Fox can coax Matt Vaughn into directing the sequel perhaps. Tim Miller is still a newbie and Deadpool is better off someone much more competent perhaps.
Aye, Kingsman AND Kick-Ass.
Makes me wonder if Fox can coax Matt Vaughn into directing the sequel perhaps. Tim Miller is still a newbie and Deadpool is better off someone much more competent perhaps.
4:16PM on 02/15/2016

If James Gunn was a cake he'd eat himself.

He made a great movie in Guardians though. ;
He made a great movie in Guardians though. ;
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3:08PM on 02/15/2016
Easily one of my favorite comic book films and is just as much fun and exciting as Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy (which also happens to be my favorite Marvel film thus far).

Hopefully this pushes and encourages DC to make a Lobo film in the near time future.
Easily one of my favorite comic book films and is just as much fun and exciting as Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy (which also happens to be my favorite Marvel film thus far).

Hopefully this pushes and encourages DC to make a Lobo film in the near time future.
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2:43PM on 02/15/2016

I hope Chris Hemsworth reads this.

A while back, he said Thor: Ragnarok should be like Guardians.
A while back, he said Thor: Ragnarok should be like Guardians.
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