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Movie Jail: This week's defendant is...Oliver Stone!

Sep. 10, 2012by: Johnny Moreno

Welcome to Movie Jail, a facility like any other, only its inmates are Hollywood writers, directors, actors and producers. This column will serve as a Movie Jail trial. We will put one defendant on trial; lay out arguments for the Prosecution and Defense. And we leave it up to YOU, the reader, to decide whether the defendant is guilty of his or her crime. What crime? The crime of consistently being a stinking shithouse.

The Defendant


Oliver Stone

The Case

The Prosecution: Alexander, Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, W., Savages*

Ladies and gentleman of the jury, we're going to switch up this week by throwing a director on trial, ala Tim Burton. Going through all the suggestions, Mr. Stone's name popped out and looking through the evidence, the prosecution hopes to sway the jury into a conviction. Has Mr. Stone given us solid movies? Sure. Do you get good mileage out of racehorse? Sure. But eventually that horse loses its speed, endurance and brains when you take him out back and put him out of his misery (sorry, spoiler alert). Where did it all turn for Mr. Stone? Was it the abysmal Alexander? Was it his foray into politics? Or bringing back one of the greatest love to hate villains for a second round and giving us a lite, watered down version of said character? In any event, the prosecution moves for a conviction. Lock him up for a few years, then let's see what he comes up with.

The Defense: Wall Street, Platoon, Born on the Fourth of July, World Trade Center, JFK, Natural Born Killers, Talk Radio*

Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, the prosectution wants to shoot horses. Simple as that. You know who else shoots horses? Terrorists, that's who. How can we take this trial seriously with an analogy like that? So Mr. Stone has political views and expresses them via his own artistic medium, big deal. It's not like he's the first. What do you expect from the guy who's made politically based movies for the majority of his career? Without that passion for politics, movies like Born on the Fourth of July, Wall Street and Platoon wouldn't have the same kind of edge. Has Mr. Stone's most recent fare been up to the standards of some of the aforementioned flicks? No, but with such a long career as his, what director has? The man is not only an accomplished directors with some of the best movies of the last 25 years, but he's also a helluva a screenwriter in his own right, not just on his own movies, but on films like Midnight Express and Scarface. The man has proven himself time and time again, and if he hits a bump in the road, he should be allowed time to get his shit together and rock the casbah once again.


IN CLOSING...

So, whats to be done with Mr. Oliver Stone? Do his policital views making its way into his films bother the court that much? Should he concentrate on putting together solid movies rather than trying to make some kind of point? On the other hand, the man has made some of the best of movies of the 1980s and owned a good part of the 90s, but is that enough? And the most important question to be asked, once all evidence is taken into consideration, we ask you The Jury, is John Travolta GUILTY or NOT GUILTY? Lets hear YOUR arguments, either side, by STRIKING BACK BELOW.

*The court recognizes that all movies are subjective, so relax.

WHAT SAY YOU, GUILTY OR NOT?


LAST WEEK'S VERDICT

It is the jury's decision that after reviewing last week's evidence, the court finds Mr. John Travolta NOT GUILTY of all charges. The jury was sequestered for 92 hours, 82 of which was spent playing Madden 2013 and eating potato skins. But at the end of the day, Mr. Travolta's innocence was proven by the smallest of margins, citing his previous hits outweighting his recent duds....but just barely. Meaning that Movie Jail authorities will be keeping a close eye on Mr. Travolta and his dimple chinned nonsense.

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9:38AM on 09/16/2012

Hell Fucking No....Not Guilty

See above...Do I need to be more clear?
See above...Do I need to be more clear?
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2:08AM on 09/13/2012

Not Guilty

Oliver Stone is a fucking legend. His movies are still watched religiously even decades after they're released. To the motherfucker who decided to base his guilty decision on the single ending of Savages has no clue about movie knowledge. I'm sorry but you can't take an ending to one movie he made 4 months ago and compare that to the 30 years of his experience he has delivered in breathtaking fashion. Not every person can take a movie about JFK getting assassinated and make it interesting.
Oliver Stone is a fucking legend. His movies are still watched religiously even decades after they're released. To the motherfucker who decided to base his guilty decision on the single ending of Savages has no clue about movie knowledge. I'm sorry but you can't take an ending to one movie he made 4 months ago and compare that to the 30 years of his experience he has delivered in breathtaking fashion. Not every person can take a movie about JFK getting assassinated and make it interesting. Platoon was a phenomenal movie, he put Tom Cruise on the Oscar map with BOTFOJ and Wall Street is a classic. What would the 80's have been without Oliver Stone? Ask any great actor today if they would be honored to work with Oliver Stone and I guarantee 100% of them would say yes.

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11:32PM on 09/11/2012
not guilty, i actually didnt think alexander and w. were that bad
not guilty, i actually didnt think alexander and w. were that bad
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9:40PM on 09/11/2012

NOT GUILTY

The good far out weighs the bad, in this case. And all of the prosecution films are from the past 8 years. The man's been in the biz for over a couple decades now. He still has some pull.
The good far out weighs the bad, in this case. And all of the prosecution films are from the past 8 years. The man's been in the biz for over a couple decades now. He still has some pull.
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4:49PM on 09/11/2012
You had The Savages last week as one of Travolta's defenses but this week its on the prosecution list... Smh.
You had The Savages last week as one of Travolta's defenses but this week its on the prosecution list... Smh.
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4:46PM on 09/11/2012
Not guilty, dumb choice for this weeks movie court.
Not guilty, dumb choice for this weeks movie court.
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12:52AM on 09/11/2012

Guilty

Savages' ending
Savages' ending
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12:29AM on 09/11/2012

Are you kidding me?

Not fucking guilty.
Not fucking guilty.
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11:05PM on 09/10/2012

Not Guilty

W. is terrific even though it's all about Brolin. But choosing Brolin... ah, that's the true masterstroke.
W. is terrific even though it's all about Brolin. But choosing Brolin... ah, that's the true masterstroke.
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9:02PM on 09/10/2012

Not guilty.

Really? Out of all the people left for us to put on trial, we've gotta go with Oliver Stone? As said before, his early stuff is really good, with WALL STREET in particular being one of my favorite films of all-time. I actually liked SAVAGES which I thought was a good return to form for him. Sure, he's made some not-so-great films, like WALL STREET: MONEY NEVER SLEEPS, but I've never seen anything of his that was truly awful. He hasn't done anything that terrible, certainly not enough to justify
Really? Out of all the people left for us to put on trial, we've gotta go with Oliver Stone? As said before, his early stuff is really good, with WALL STREET in particular being one of my favorite films of all-time. I actually liked SAVAGES which I thought was a good return to form for him. Sure, he's made some not-so-great films, like WALL STREET: MONEY NEVER SLEEPS, but I've never seen anything of his that was truly awful. He hasn't done anything that terrible, certainly not enough to justify an appearance in a Movie Jail column.
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9:00PM on 09/10/2012

Not guilty.

Really? Out of all the people left for us to put on trial, we've gotta go with Oliver Stone? As said before, his early stuff is really good, with WALL STREET in particular being one of my favorite films of all-time. I actually liked SAVAGES which I thought was a good return to form for him. Sure, he's made some not-so-great films, like WALL STREET: MONEY NEVER SLEEPS, but I've never seen anything of his that was truly awful. He hasn't done anything that terrible, certainly not enough to justify
Really? Out of all the people left for us to put on trial, we've gotta go with Oliver Stone? As said before, his early stuff is really good, with WALL STREET in particular being one of my favorite films of all-time. I actually liked SAVAGES which I thought was a good return to form for him. Sure, he's made some not-so-great films, like WALL STREET: MONEY NEVER SLEEPS, but I've never seen anything of his that was truly awful. He hasn't done anything that terrible, certainly not enough to justify an appearance in a Movie Jail column.
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8:34PM on 09/10/2012

Not Guilty

You have to be kidding me. The guy has directed some masterpieces, a lot of great films, and only a few ok films. Even his weakest films are a decent watch at least once. I could name a bunch of other directors with weaker track records than Stone. Sure his most recent films might not be as great as his earlier ones, but Platoon and Wall Street set the bar pretty damn high.
You have to be kidding me. The guy has directed some masterpieces, a lot of great films, and only a few ok films. Even his weakest films are a decent watch at least once. I could name a bunch of other directors with weaker track records than Stone. Sure his most recent films might not be as great as his earlier ones, but Platoon and Wall Street set the bar pretty damn high.
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6:16PM on 09/10/2012

Not guilty

Aside from that unnecessary Wall Street sequel, not guilty.

Michael Bay needs to brought in.
Aside from that unnecessary Wall Street sequel, not guilty.

Michael Bay needs to brought in.
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6:07PM on 09/10/2012
Not guilty. I had the privilege of going to a screening of 'W' when he was in town, and there was a Q and A afterwards. I've gotta say that Stone is a really intense, intelligent, somewhat aggressive person, and you can definitely see that in his filmmaking. For all the 'bad' films he's made, it is impossible to deny the impact of such gems as Wall Street, Platoon, JFK and Natural Born Killers. World Trade Center was very, very moving; for a director who always seems to be pushing hot buttons,
Not guilty. I had the privilege of going to a screening of 'W' when he was in town, and there was a Q and A afterwards. I've gotta say that Stone is a really intense, intelligent, somewhat aggressive person, and you can definitely see that in his filmmaking. For all the 'bad' films he's made, it is impossible to deny the impact of such gems as Wall Street, Platoon, JFK and Natural Born Killers. World Trade Center was very, very moving; for a director who always seems to be pushing hot buttons, that film was sensitive, emotional, restrained and well-told. I definitely think he has great films in him yet, and it was a great experience to ask him about casting Christian Bale as George W Bush (he met with Bale but the actor didn't think the makeup would be convincing on him, and decided not to take the part).
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5:48PM on 09/10/2012
Guilty. I hate to say it but no Stone is better than a neutered one. The problem is Stone has lost his bite. During his heyday of the 80-90s there was no finer director who challenged his audience to look at the bigger picture of our world in respects to history, violence, sex, pop culture; as a teenager during this time it was an interesting foray beyond the cineplex, creating discussion after the credits. But unfortunately his planned opus Alexander proved to be a bloated uneven mess that
Guilty. I hate to say it but no Stone is better than a neutered one. The problem is Stone has lost his bite. During his heyday of the 80-90s there was no finer director who challenged his audience to look at the bigger picture of our world in respects to history, violence, sex, pop culture; as a teenager during this time it was an interesting foray beyond the cineplex, creating discussion after the credits. But unfortunately his planned opus Alexander proved to be a bloated uneven mess that not even his trademark creative editing could salvage. While I admit I enjoyed a restrained Stone during World Trade Center, he completely baffled me with W. I cant think of more recent disappointing movie going experience. The time was perfect for a conspiracy style fast cut film he perfected in JFK & Nixon but instead it was a toothless excuse of a made for TV film. Wall Street 2 surprisingly was half decent but again he wimped out and buckled to studio pressure for a warm happy ending. I didn't even bother with Savages because of the previous disappointments. I'd like to see a return for Stone, but I think he's a older man who's finally mellowed and really has nothing creative left to offer an audience.
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5:42PM on 09/10/2012
I've hated some of Oliver Stone's flicks, but who hasn't hated SOME work that a director who has been in the game for a long time has done. His awesome films FAR outweigh his crappy ones, and he justified it recently with the greatly underrated SAVAGES (In which Del Toro should get an oscar nod...)...Let Ollie be....NOT GUILTY!!
I've hated some of Oliver Stone's flicks, but who hasn't hated SOME work that a director who has been in the game for a long time has done. His awesome films FAR outweigh his crappy ones, and he justified it recently with the greatly underrated SAVAGES (In which Del Toro should get an oscar nod...)...Let Ollie be....NOT GUILTY!!
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5:31PM on 09/10/2012

This man is guilty.

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9:02PM on 09/10/2012
I'm really not sure what THE HANGOVER PART III has to do with Oliver Stone.
I'm really not sure what THE HANGOVER PART III has to do with Oliver Stone.
5:11PM on 09/10/2012
Guilty. I hate to say it but no Stone is better than a neutered one. The problem is Stone has lost his bite. During his heyday of the 80-90s there was no finer director who challenged his audience to look at the bigger picture of our world in respects to history, violence, sex, pop culture; as a teenager during this time it was an interesting foray beyond the cineplex, creating discussion after the credits. But unfortunately his planned opus Alexander proved to be a bloated uneven mess that
Guilty. I hate to say it but no Stone is better than a neutered one. The problem is Stone has lost his bite. During his heyday of the 80-90s there was no finer director who challenged his audience to look at the bigger picture of our world in respects to history, violence, sex, pop culture; as a teenager during this time it was an interesting foray beyond the cineplex, creating discussion after the credits. But unfortunately his planned opus Alexander proved to be a bloated uneven mess that not even his trademark creative editing could salvage. While I admit I enjoyed a restrained Stone during World Trade Center, he completely baffled me with W. I cant think of more recent disappointing movie going experience. The time was perfect for a conspiracy style fast cut film he perfected in JFK & Nixon but instead it was a toothless excuse of a made for TV film. Wall Street 2 surprisingly was half decent but again he wimped out and buckled to studio pressure for a warm happy ending. I didn't even bother with Savages because of the previous disappointments. I'd like to see a return for Stone, but I think he's a older man who's finally mellowed and really has nothing creative left to offer an audience.
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4:36PM on 09/10/2012

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Try to find one director with three decades of film making that has a flawless track record. Doesn't exist. And you would be harder pressed to find someone with as many monumental and classic films as Oliver Stone. This consideration is just ridiculous. Set him free.
Try to find one director with three decades of film making that has a flawless track record. Doesn't exist. And you would be harder pressed to find someone with as many monumental and classic films as Oliver Stone. This consideration is just ridiculous. Set him free.
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4:15PM on 09/10/2012

OUR GREATEST DIRECTOR

I have to say that Oliver Stone is the greatest director of my generation. JFK, NATURAL BORN KILLERS, NIXON, TALK RADIO, HEAVEN & EARTH, BORN ON THE 4TH OF JULY, U-TURN, ALEXANDER, THE DOORS and PLATOON are some of my VERY favorite films of all time. On second viewing I thought SAVAGES was a brilliant little film in it's own right. I do agree that "W." and "WORLD TRADE CENTER" were not the best movies of all time but, come on! WALL STREET MONEY NEVER SLEEPS may not have the best title but, I
I have to say that Oliver Stone is the greatest director of my generation. JFK, NATURAL BORN KILLERS, NIXON, TALK RADIO, HEAVEN & EARTH, BORN ON THE 4TH OF JULY, U-TURN, ALEXANDER, THE DOORS and PLATOON are some of my VERY favorite films of all time. On second viewing I thought SAVAGES was a brilliant little film in it's own right. I do agree that "W." and "WORLD TRADE CENTER" were not the best movies of all time but, come on! WALL STREET MONEY NEVER SLEEPS may not have the best title but, I thought it was a worthy sequel and very well put together. And what is the fucking problem with ALEXANDER?!?!?!!!
I thought ALEXANDER was fucking brilliant! It was beautiful, brilliantly written and directed, was riffe with paranoia, intrigue, suspense and two wonderfully sprawling battles that I will never forget. It should have been up for best picture in 2004. I could go on and on but let me close with this. Oliver Stone has made some of the best films of ALL time and re-defined movie making with his cubistic style shown so prominately in JFK, NIXON, SAVAGES, U-TURN, ANY GIVEN SUNDAY, HEAVEN & EARTH, THE DOORS and especially in NATURAL BORN KILLERS. Love him or hate him, Oliver Stone is a brilliant fucking director who doesn't downplay his audience, in fact he shows us the utmost respect by not taking us for fools and giving us hours, upon hours, upon hours of cinematic entertainment that NO OTHER director in Hollywood has the balls to do. NOT GUILTY, NOT GULITY, NOT GUILTY!!!!!
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3:44PM on 09/10/2012
To me his last good movie was Any Given Sunday, while Wall Street 2 was a decent film, it was also very unnecessary. But the man gave us Natural Born Killers. Platoon, & JFK. However he still tries to be a little too political in his movies, which was fine in the 80s & 90s, but seems forced today because everyone nowadays does it. I would still say NOT GUILTY, but he needs to take it down a notch or two in his future films.

On a side note why doesn't this article include actresses? I don't
To me his last good movie was Any Given Sunday, while Wall Street 2 was a decent film, it was also very unnecessary. But the man gave us Natural Born Killers. Platoon, & JFK. However he still tries to be a little too political in his movies, which was fine in the 80s & 90s, but seems forced today because everyone nowadays does it. I would still say NOT GUILTY, but he needs to take it down a notch or two in his future films.

On a side note why doesn't this article include actresses? I don't think there has been one yet?
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3:35PM on 09/10/2012
not guilty only because you forgot to mention Salvador and that is an awesome movie. the next defendant should be Terrence Mallick because I'm sorry but I hated Tree of Life.
not guilty only because you forgot to mention Salvador and that is an awesome movie. the next defendant should be Terrence Mallick because I'm sorry but I hated Tree of Life.
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3:32PM on 09/10/2012

Not guilty!

For every 3 good movies he gives us he craps out a bad one. Not a bad ratio.
For every 3 good movies he gives us he craps out a bad one. Not a bad ratio.
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2:50PM on 09/10/2012
Guilty. Stone, like Brian DePalma, has lost whatever touch he used to have. He should be thrown in jail for Savages alone.
Guilty. Stone, like Brian DePalma, has lost whatever touch he used to have. He should be thrown in jail for Savages alone.
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2:39PM on 09/10/2012
Guilty, I hate Natural Born Killers and Alexander. He hasn't made a good film in years.
Guilty, I hate Natural Born Killers and Alexander. He hasn't made a good film in years.
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1:48PM on 09/10/2012
Guilty
Guilty
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1:38PM on 09/10/2012

Guilty!!!!!!!!!

I love Natural Born Killers, JFK, Platoon, Talk Radio, The Doors, and Wall Street. He started off making thought provoking and engaging films. Now a days he just seems like he's begging for a hit and he hasn't stayed true to himself as a filmmaker.
I love Natural Born Killers, JFK, Platoon, Talk Radio, The Doors, and Wall Street. He started off making thought provoking and engaging films. Now a days he just seems like he's begging for a hit and he hasn't stayed true to himself as a filmmaker.
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1:23PM on 09/10/2012

Guilty

Even without his more recent and (widely considered) lesser films I would still consider him guilty. While the man has talent, most of his films are far too heavy handed and by the time they stop hammering you, there's just a headache.
Even without his more recent and (widely considered) lesser films I would still consider him guilty. While the man has talent, most of his films are far too heavy handed and by the time they stop hammering you, there's just a headache.
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12:04PM on 09/10/2012

NOT GUILTY.

Though I don't understand the placing of WTC under the Defense. Also, if he ends up being determined guilty just because you all think he's a conspiracy theorist for thinking there was more to the Kennedy Assassination then the Warren Commission told us... yet John Travolta is not guilty and he believes in XENU the intergalactic space alien that's going to come punish us and our Thetons.... get the fuck outta here lol.
Though I don't understand the placing of WTC under the Defense. Also, if he ends up being determined guilty just because you all think he's a conspiracy theorist for thinking there was more to the Kennedy Assassination then the Warren Commission told us... yet John Travolta is not guilty and he believes in XENU the intergalactic space alien that's going to come punish us and our Thetons.... get the fuck outta here lol.
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11:43AM on 09/10/2012

Guilty

His last few movies haven't had the edge that his previous work once had...
Take W. for instance what should have been a biting dark satire on the whole administration came off like a movie of the week....Wall Street is a great movie but Money Never Sleep felt like an entirely different animal.
His last few movies haven't had the edge that his previous work once had...
Take W. for instance what should have been a biting dark satire on the whole administration came off like a movie of the week....Wall Street is a great movie but Money Never Sleep felt like an entirely different animal.
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11:33AM on 09/10/2012

Not Guilty

The amount of good movies he's done greatly outnumbers the bad movies. I'll admit i havent seen "Savages" yet but i really did like "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps". And "World Trade Center" is a bit of an easy sell but i still enjoyed it. Aside from that he has maybe 3-4 (by definition) bad movies, and a whole slew of great ones. Platoon, JFK, Wall Street, Any Given Sunday, Natural Killers. In my book, he is not guilty at all.

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Director: Ivan Reitman
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Actress: Sandra
The amount of good movies he's done greatly outnumbers the bad movies. I'll admit i havent seen "Savages" yet but i really did like "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps". And "World Trade Center" is a bit of an easy sell but i still enjoyed it. Aside from that he has maybe 3-4 (by definition) bad movies, and a whole slew of great ones. Platoon, JFK, Wall Street, Any Given Sunday, Natural Killers. In my book, he is not guilty at all.

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Actress: Sandra Bullock (first female defendant?)
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11:30AM on 09/10/2012

Not guilty

First off, W. was hilarious. I'm a political junkie so sue me. But I really liked that movie.
Stone has a style, and occasionally an axe to grind. He makes political documentaries in his free time. Last time I checked, we weren't in the business (even in Movie Jail) of holding a person's personal views against them. And Stone has been saying essentially the same thing his entire career. So he can't help it. Yes, there are film better left un-Stoned, but he really is one of the more original
First off, W. was hilarious. I'm a political junkie so sue me. But I really liked that movie.
Stone has a style, and occasionally an axe to grind. He makes political documentaries in his free time. Last time I checked, we weren't in the business (even in Movie Jail) of holding a person's personal views against them. And Stone has been saying essentially the same thing his entire career. So he can't help it. Yes, there are film better left un-Stoned, but he really is one of the more original directors in Hollywood, and though his straight entertainments (like U-Turn) don't always pay off, man's got a vision and a style that sets him apart. And he's not a sell-out like some auteurs. Pick on somebody who's willing to listen to reason, for Oliver Stone, he's stuck in his ways by now, that ship has sailed.
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11:25AM on 09/10/2012
Savages was good, but not great, which should actually consider even it out a bit.
Savages was good, but not great, which should actually consider even it out a bit.
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11:10AM on 09/10/2012

Not Guilty

Vin Diesel, Billy Bob Thorton, Robin Williams - Eddie Murphy (Dont remeber if his has been on trial yet), Samuel Jackson, Bruce Willis.
Vin Diesel, Billy Bob Thorton, Robin Williams - Eddie Murphy (Dont remeber if his has been on trial yet), Samuel Jackson, Bruce Willis.
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11:37AM on 09/10/2012
Eddie Murphy was on trial back in July, found guilty

And i dont agree with Samuel Jackson or Bruce Willis going to movie jail. Neither are in their heyday anymore, but we still have films like "Looper" "Avengers" "Moonrise Kingdom" "Django Unchained" and thats just this year
Eddie Murphy was on trial back in July, found guilty

And i dont agree with Samuel Jackson or Bruce Willis going to movie jail. Neither are in their heyday anymore, but we still have films like "Looper" "Avengers" "Moonrise Kingdom" "Django Unchained" and thats just this year
10:43AM on 09/10/2012
Guilty. And I say this as someone who loves every frame of Platoon.

This guy wrote and directed some of the greatest movies of the 1980s. It all went straight to his head and by the 1990s he'd become an egotistical douche convinced the stink of his own shit was a government conspiracy.

For next week's Movie Jail I accuse all Nathan Fillion fanboys. Not the actor, just all the people who suggest him every time a role comes up. ENOUGH!
Guilty. And I say this as someone who loves every frame of Platoon.

This guy wrote and directed some of the greatest movies of the 1980s. It all went straight to his head and by the 1990s he'd become an egotistical douche convinced the stink of his own shit was a government conspiracy.

For next week's Movie Jail I accuse all Nathan Fillion fanboys. Not the actor, just all the people who suggest him every time a role comes up. ENOUGH!
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10:18AM on 09/10/2012

Definitely guilty.

Platoon and JFK were great, but since then he has sucked. Also, this doesn't play a part in my verdict, just saying, also he's a nutjob....A dick.
Platoon and JFK were great, but since then he has sucked. Also, this doesn't play a part in my verdict, just saying, also he's a nutjob....A dick.
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10:17AM on 09/10/2012

Not Guilty

Platoon is a near masterpiece, Wall Street gave us Gordon Gekko and Natural Born Killers is off the fuckin chain. Can't put a man down for them.
Platoon is a near masterpiece, Wall Street gave us Gordon Gekko and Natural Born Killers is off the fuckin chain. Can't put a man down for them.
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10:14AM on 09/10/2012
Not guilty. To his defense, I don't think movies like Alexander is Stone's particular cup of tea and that's why it failed. For Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, if there never was the original Wall Street movie, it would have been fine but it just pales in comparison to the original Wall Street. Haven't watched W and Savages yet so can't comment on those. Stone is one gutsy director. Nobody would dare to make movies like Platoon or JFK or even Natural Born Killers. That's why he's okay in my
Not guilty. To his defense, I don't think movies like Alexander is Stone's particular cup of tea and that's why it failed. For Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, if there never was the original Wall Street movie, it would have been fine but it just pales in comparison to the original Wall Street. Haven't watched W and Savages yet so can't comment on those. Stone is one gutsy director. Nobody would dare to make movies like Platoon or JFK or even Natural Born Killers. That's why he's okay in my book.
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10:12AM on 09/10/2012
Not guilty. To his defense, I don't think movies like Alexander is Stone's particular cup of tea and that's why it failed. For Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, if there never was the original Wall Street movie, it would have been fine but it just pales in comparison to the original Wall Street. Haven't watched W and Savages yet so can't comment on those. Stone is one gutsy director. Nobody would dare to make movies like Platoon or JFK or even Natural Born Killers. That's why he's okay in my
Not guilty. To his defense, I don't think movies like Alexander is Stone's particular cup of tea and that's why it failed. For Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, if there never was the original Wall Street movie, it would have been fine but it just pales in comparison to the original Wall Street. Haven't watched W and Savages yet so can't comment on those. Stone is one gutsy director. Nobody would dare to make movies like Platoon or JFK or even Natural Born Killers. That's why he's okay in my book.
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10:10AM on 09/10/2012

100% Not Guilty....

Oliver is a terrific writer and filmmaker and even the movies he's being put on trial for aren't really that bad. ALEXANDER was a bit of a mess but the Director's Cut is WAY better plus WALL STREET 2 was pretty damn good in my opinion as was W. I haven't seen SAVAGES yet but one really bad movie isn't enough to be found guilty given his lifetime of amazing work. JFK alone saves him for me let alone the rest of his defense. This is an open and shut case, not guilty. I was kinda surprised to see
Oliver is a terrific writer and filmmaker and even the movies he's being put on trial for aren't really that bad. ALEXANDER was a bit of a mess but the Director's Cut is WAY better plus WALL STREET 2 was pretty damn good in my opinion as was W. I haven't seen SAVAGES yet but one really bad movie isn't enough to be found guilty given his lifetime of amazing work. JFK alone saves him for me let alone the rest of his defense. This is an open and shut case, not guilty. I was kinda surprised to see him even considered.

By the way this is a judgement of his movies alone, not his egotistical personality.

My top 3 choices for Movie Jail later: Brian De Palma, Bruce Willis and M. Night Shyamalan
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10:14AM on 09/10/2012
Oh yeah, M. Night is a must.
Oh yeah, M. Night is a must.
10:14AM on 09/10/2012
Oh yeah, M. Night is a must.
Oh yeah, M. Night is a must.
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