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Ridley Scott unleashes hell on the MPAA

Apr. 11, 2012by: Alex Maidy

Ridley Scott is mad as hell and has taken to the media to profess his dissatisfaction with the MPAA and the PROMETHEUS rating.

Here are Sir Ridley's exact words from the London screening of PROMETHEUS footage: [F]ilms this year that have got PG-13 ratings -- its absolutely f--king ludicrous...[the MPAA] should get it's house in order.

Scott also recently said this to Empire: The question is, do you go for the PG-13, or do you go for what it should be, which is R? Financially it makes quite a difference, or the risk makes quite a difference, and yet you also have to apply the question -- if you soften it, will you financially suffer? As opposed to just going for the throat and gambling. Essentially, it's kinda R.

The MPAA has been slammed in recent weeks regarding their handling of the BULLY rating and many in the media and online have been decrying the antiquated ratings system.

My recent story on THE DARK KNIGHT RISES being rated PG-13 was very derisive amongst the Schmoes out there, but it definitely highlights how arbitrary the MPAA process is. Some movies coast through without needing a single edit while others languish at the mercy of censors. The MPAA also has the power to single handedly kill a movie by giving it an NC-17 (SHAME, BLUE VALENTINE). The time has come for some new ratings that better fit our modern society.

What do you think about Ridley Scott's take on the MPAA?

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6:40AM on 04/13/2012
i work in the theatre business and i can tell you its ultimately 100% your mom's fault. Studios dont HAVE to get an MPAA rating. Theatres dont require each film to have one. The moms of the world do. They bitch and moan and call us incessantly demanding we do something about the PG-13 trailer that ran in front of that PG movie. God forbid you all got to decide what you wanted to see based on trailers and commercials. or on a little tag that tells you what the movie contains. God forbid you have
i work in the theatre business and i can tell you its ultimately 100% your mom's fault. Studios dont HAVE to get an MPAA rating. Theatres dont require each film to have one. The moms of the world do. They bitch and moan and call us incessantly demanding we do something about the PG-13 trailer that ran in front of that PG movie. God forbid you all got to decide what you wanted to see based on trailers and commercials. or on a little tag that tells you what the movie contains. God forbid you have to read anything more than single letters.
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7:22PM on 04/12/2012
Captain Planet is right.

Here is a picture from the time of The Hays code, and it breaks nearly every rule: [link]
Captain Planet is right.

Here is a picture from the time of The Hays code, and it breaks nearly every rule: [link]
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4:50PM on 04/12/2012
Listen to Captain Planet defending the MPAA like he works for them or something.

"In its 45+ year history, the MPAA has never edited a single frame in a single movie. It has always been the production company that has made edits to receive more lenient ratings."

Anyone who's ever seen the film, "This Film is Not Yet Rated" knows this is not the case. While they may not physically edit movies... it is spin to say they don't have a hand in censoring what they deem to be, "inappropriate."
Listen to Captain Planet defending the MPAA like he works for them or something.

"In its 45+ year history, the MPAA has never edited a single frame in a single movie. It has always been the production company that has made edits to receive more lenient ratings."

Anyone who's ever seen the film, "This Film is Not Yet Rated" knows this is not the case. While they may not physically edit movies... it is spin to say they don't have a hand in censoring what they deem to be, "inappropriate." The MPAA is an antiquated system that should be done away with if we're ever to move into a more modern society.
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1:35AM on 04/13/2012
Fucking get a clue. Filmmakers can accepts an NC-17 with ZERO MOTHERFUCKING EDITS. It's the theaters' fault for cockblocking NC-17 films.
Fucking get a clue. Filmmakers can accepts an NC-17 with ZERO MOTHERFUCKING EDITS. It's the theaters' fault for cockblocking NC-17 films.
3:57PM on 04/12/2012
All you motherfuckers wanting to do away with MPAA - LISTEN THE FUCK UP!

The MPAA is the only reason filmmakers have any artistic freedom at all. Look up what the Hays Code was and shudder at the "every movie has to be G rated" hell that was pre-1968 American cinema.

The MPAA rating system, while flawed as all fuck, is the only line of defense against religious fanatics starting their own censorship boards on a state-by-state basis.

It its own autistic way, the MPAA is acting as a
All you motherfuckers wanting to do away with MPAA - LISTEN THE FUCK UP!

The MPAA is the only reason filmmakers have any artistic freedom at all. Look up what the Hays Code was and shudder at the "every movie has to be G rated" hell that was pre-1968 American cinema.

The MPAA rating system, while flawed as all fuck, is the only line of defense against religious fanatics starting their own censorship boards on a state-by-state basis.

It its own autistic way, the MPAA is acting as a vanguard of free speech. Doing away with it will result in MORE CENSORSHIP, not less.
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2:34PM on 04/12/2012
I think it's good that a well-known and respected director is publicly pissed at them. We know smaller films, indie movies, and more obscure/up and coming directors get screwed over by them all the time. Maybe this is a start... unless he ends up caving in and watering down his movie for PG-13. Then it'll just seem hypocritical.
I think it's good that a well-known and respected director is publicly pissed at them. We know smaller films, indie movies, and more obscure/up and coming directors get screwed over by them all the time. Maybe this is a start... unless he ends up caving in and watering down his movie for PG-13. Then it'll just seem hypocritical.
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2:05PM on 04/12/2012

MPAA

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2:05PM on 04/12/2012

MPAA

I started ignoring ratings when I saw Dreamworks' Madagascar was PG....They lost all credibility after that!
I started ignoring ratings when I saw Dreamworks' Madagascar was PG....They lost all credibility after that!
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11:01AM on 04/12/2012

NP

Love that last rating.
Love that last rating.
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10:57AM on 04/12/2012
Yeah MPAA has gotten overly strict. I mean Beatlejuice kicked over a tree in the "nice fucking model"
Yeah MPAA has gotten overly strict. I mean Beatlejuice kicked over a tree in the "nice fucking model"
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8:31AM on 04/12/2012

Hmm...

As already stated, the MPAA can go fuck themselves. But the problem with that is we are still the ones getting shafted. Oh, did I already say that the MPAA can go fuck themselves. As you were.
As already stated, the MPAA can go fuck themselves. But the problem with that is we are still the ones getting shafted. Oh, did I already say that the MPAA can go fuck themselves. As you were.
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6:05AM on 04/12/2012
I trust Ridley's judgement but I fear that they will cave in and tone it down for PG-13. More people will see it then but would it be a film worth returning to?

I'm hoping they take the risk with an R rating and leave the original vision unchanged. And if people love it, you might get many fans returning for a 2nd or even 3rd viewing.
I trust Ridley's judgement but I fear that they will cave in and tone it down for PG-13. More people will see it then but would it be a film worth returning to?

I'm hoping they take the risk with an R rating and leave the original vision unchanged. And if people love it, you might get many fans returning for a 2nd or even 3rd viewing.
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5:54AM on 04/12/2012
In its 45+ year history, the MPAA has never edited a single frame in a single movie. It has always been the production company that has made edits to receive more lenient ratings. Like Ridley Scott himself says:

"Prometheus" needs a rating which "allows it to make as much money as possible."

No, Ridley. Accept the rating without edits and then market to that demographic. The R-rated Project X only made $9M less than the PG-13 Chronicle. You can put that small deficit down to Chronicle
In its 45+ year history, the MPAA has never edited a single frame in a single movie. It has always been the production company that has made edits to receive more lenient ratings. Like Ridley Scott himself says:

"Prometheus" needs a rating which "allows it to make as much money as possible."

No, Ridley. Accept the rating without edits and then market to that demographic. The R-rated Project X only made $9M less than the PG-13 Chronicle. You can put that small deficit down to Chronicle being a better film with better reviews.
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2:43AM on 04/12/2012
yea the MPAA has definitely gotten more strict over the years. I've seen movies from the 60's to the 80's that are rated pg, that would probably be close to an R rating today.
yea the MPAA has definitely gotten more strict over the years. I've seen movies from the 60's to the 80's that are rated pg, that would probably be close to an R rating today.
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4:11PM on 04/12/2012
Well that's because all they had back then was PG PG-13 came around the time of the temple of doom.
Well that's because all they had back then was PG PG-13 came around the time of the temple of doom.
2:36AM on 04/12/2012

Sooo...

I thought it was going to be PG-13 anyways. And I've been saying this for years. Please just drop the MPAA it's such a waste they ruin good movies. If your a parent and dont' want your kid seeing a film don't let them. Kids will sneak in anyways, just get rid of the damn MPAA seriously. Anybody else agree. Please I want to know, or am I the only one out there who thinks the whole rating system and MPAA is stupid.
I thought it was going to be PG-13 anyways. And I've been saying this for years. Please just drop the MPAA it's such a waste they ruin good movies. If your a parent and dont' want your kid seeing a film don't let them. Kids will sneak in anyways, just get rid of the damn MPAA seriously. Anybody else agree. Please I want to know, or am I the only one out there who thinks the whole rating system and MPAA is stupid.
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12:17AM on 04/12/2012
Ridley Scott has enough money to think about how much money he will lose if the film does happen to be PG-13 rather than what the MPAA is suggesting. The only thing Scott should be worried about is making the best film possible!!!!
Ridley Scott has enough money to think about how much money he will lose if the film does happen to be PG-13 rather than what the MPAA is suggesting. The only thing Scott should be worried about is making the best film possible!!!!
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11:38PM on 04/11/2012
The reason R rated films dont do as good as they used to is because of the Theaters themselves. Theaters have become so ridiculously hardcore about not letting ANYONE under seventeen see R rated films. There is no law against anyone under seventeen seeing a R-rated movie, yet theaters still treat this as if it were minors trying to buy alcohol.

Theaters used to not be like this. Now studios fight for PG-13 ratings just to accommodate this nonsense that theater owners have pushed on us.
The reason R rated films dont do as good as they used to is because of the Theaters themselves. Theaters have become so ridiculously hardcore about not letting ANYONE under seventeen see R rated films. There is no law against anyone under seventeen seeing a R-rated movie, yet theaters still treat this as if it were minors trying to buy alcohol.

Theaters used to not be like this. Now studios fight for PG-13 ratings just to accommodate this nonsense that theater owners have pushed on us.
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2:39AM on 04/12/2012
Are you sure about that? I thought for sure you weren't allowed to see an R rated movie (if your under 17) unless a parent or legal guardian was with you.
Are you sure about that? I thought for sure you weren't allowed to see an R rated movie (if your under 17) unless a parent or legal guardian was with you.
10:37AM on 04/12/2012
I full agreement. I've been seeing R movies since I was 12...without a parent mind you. On a rare occassion the ticketer would basically ask us if we knew it was an R and were allowed to see it. Now everything is overly PC and it sucks.
I full agreement. I've been seeing R movies since I was 12...without a parent mind you. On a rare occassion the ticketer would basically ask us if we knew it was an R and were allowed to see it. Now everything is overly PC and it sucks.
11:07PM on 04/11/2012
MPAA can fuck themselves
MPAA can fuck themselves
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10:50PM on 04/11/2012
It can be Pg-13 with a rated R tone. Just like Dark Knight. And look how great that turned out to be.
It can be Pg-13 with a rated R tone. Just like Dark Knight. And look how great that turned out to be.
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11:04PM on 04/11/2012
My friend a Ridley Scott PG-13 would be incredibly different than a Dark Knight PG-13. He's already said in multiple interviews he filmed it with both versions in mind, but that the R version is the real/correct version.
My friend a Ridley Scott PG-13 would be incredibly different than a Dark Knight PG-13. He's already said in multiple interviews he filmed it with both versions in mind, but that the R version is the real/correct version.
11:42PM on 04/11/2012
The Dark Knight was as pg-13 as pg-13 can get. Burton's Batman was closer to R than TDK.
The Dark Knight was as pg-13 as pg-13 can get. Burton's Batman was closer to R than TDK.
1:04PM on 04/12/2012
Dude, as usual, you are a retard. Can you really say Alien would be what it is today if the franchise chose PG-13 ratings?? Seriously, delete your account.
Dude, as usual, you are a retard. Can you really say Alien would be what it is today if the franchise chose PG-13 ratings?? Seriously, delete your account.
10:15PM on 04/11/2012
It's the parents. I worked at a movie theater for four yeas, and what I get from parents are requests for refunds because their child is too scared of the floating house in Up. It's what's they claim.
It's the parents. I worked at a movie theater for four yeas, and what I get from parents are requests for refunds because their child is too scared of the floating house in Up. It's what's they claim.
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2:37AM on 04/12/2012
LOL! If your child is too scared to watch UP because the floating house scares them, then you have bigger problems. Like the fact that you shelter them too much. LOL!
LOL! If your child is too scared to watch UP because the floating house scares them, then you have bigger problems. Like the fact that you shelter them too much. LOL!
8:51PM on 04/11/2012
He shouldn't be mad at the MPAA. He should be mad at parents for allowing their kids to be pussies and not letting them go see R movies. I was 10 and my parents took me to Terminator 2, and I was 13-14 when my parents took me to see Speed and The Rock. And my parents also let me go see Screams, I know what you did last summer, H20, etc. Why? Because my parents looked into why the movie was rated R. If it was something like Basic Instinct, or was overly gory, or had too much language, then my
He shouldn't be mad at the MPAA. He should be mad at parents for allowing their kids to be pussies and not letting them go see R movies. I was 10 and my parents took me to Terminator 2, and I was 13-14 when my parents took me to see Speed and The Rock. And my parents also let me go see Screams, I know what you did last summer, H20, etc. Why? Because my parents looked into why the movie was rated R. If it was something like Basic Instinct, or was overly gory, or had too much language, then my parents ventured from it. and this was before the internet was readily available. Most parents would probably be ok with some of the R movies that are out there if they went to Kids in Mind or similar sites.

Honestly the problem is that some movies that go for the hard R have kind of ruined the R rating and parents probably now think that every movie shows dick, tits, drops 100+ f words and are overly graphic, which isnt the case. I'd be ok with my kids seeing No Country for Old Men or Expendables, but not the case with Zack and Miri or a Final Destination. The MPAA is sticking to their standards (one f word, little to no nudity, no gore, no over the top violence - don't hand me the 'Dark Knight was rough' argument, it wasnt much worse than the 89 Batman) and have even gone to links to explain why a movie gets its rating. Plain and simple: Parents need to start being parents.
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1:07PM on 04/12/2012
agreed, but this generation parents are fucking retards who don't spank their kids, think their kids are perfect, or put all the responsibility in the teacher's position instead of their own. Parents today are seriously fucking retarded.
agreed, but this generation parents are fucking retards who don't spank their kids, think their kids are perfect, or put all the responsibility in the teacher's position instead of their own. Parents today are seriously fucking retarded.
8:23PM on 04/11/2012
so after reading the story I'm confused. What exactly is Ridley mad about? Is he mad about the rating of Prometheus? What is the rating of the movie? If it's R I can understand him being upset if he wanted a pg-13, so kids can get in to see it. If it's pg-13 I don't understand, cause usually directors are upset that it's R. If it got a pg-13 rating and you wanted an R, then it's up to you to add scenes that would make it R. Is he just upset about the whole MPAA rating system in general?
so after reading the story I'm confused. What exactly is Ridley mad about? Is he mad about the rating of Prometheus? What is the rating of the movie? If it's R I can understand him being upset if he wanted a pg-13, so kids can get in to see it. If it's pg-13 I don't understand, cause usually directors are upset that it's R. If it got a pg-13 rating and you wanted an R, then it's up to you to add scenes that would make it R. Is he just upset about the whole MPAA rating system in general?
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8:23PM on 04/11/2012
so after reading the story I'm confused. What exactly is Ridley mad about? Is he mad about the rating of Prometheus? What is the rating of the movie? If it's R I can understand him being upset if he wanted a pg-13, so kids can get in to see it. If it's pg-13 I don't understand, cause usually directors are upset that it's R. If it got a pg-13 rating and you wanted an R, then it's up to you to add scenes that would make it R. Is he just upset about the whole MPAA rating system in general?
so after reading the story I'm confused. What exactly is Ridley mad about? Is he mad about the rating of Prometheus? What is the rating of the movie? If it's R I can understand him being upset if he wanted a pg-13, so kids can get in to see it. If it's pg-13 I don't understand, cause usually directors are upset that it's R. If it got a pg-13 rating and you wanted an R, then it's up to you to add scenes that would make it R. Is he just upset about the whole MPAA rating system in general?
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7:45PM on 04/11/2012
The MPAA sucks, and desperately needs to be overhaued. Ridley Scott should be mad as hell, but can someone please tell me what he is mad about?
The MPAA sucks, and desperately needs to be overhaued. Ridley Scott should be mad as hell, but can someone please tell me what he is mad about?
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8:26PM on 04/11/2012
I wondered the same thing!
I wondered the same thing!
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7:19PM on 04/11/2012
I think Ridley should hold enough respect as a filmmaker and as his own artist to know what his movies should be rated and other filmmakers who earned that coveted rank and respect like his who also don't bullshit their audience should be allowed that honor as well. But that is just me.
I think Ridley should hold enough respect as a filmmaker and as his own artist to know what his movies should be rated and other filmmakers who earned that coveted rank and respect like his who also don't bullshit their audience should be allowed that honor as well. But that is just me.
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7:08PM on 04/11/2012
Frankly, we need to remove religious leaders from the MPAA ratings board. We don't go editing the bible or their sermons about hell, so they should stay out of the way about hearing a few f-bombs or seeing a tit or three in movies.
Frankly, we need to remove religious leaders from the MPAA ratings board. We don't go editing the bible or their sermons about hell, so they should stay out of the way about hearing a few f-bombs or seeing a tit or three in movies.
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6:53PM on 04/11/2012
Everyone who came out of a vagina should get to see vaginas.
Everyone who came out of a vagina should get to see vaginas.
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6:33PM on 04/11/2012

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I believe they want to give it an R-rating but he wants everyone to be able to see it.
I believe they want to give it an R-rating but he wants everyone to be able to see it.
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6:32PM on 04/11/2012
still not clear on whether it is rated pg-13 or R
still not clear on whether it is rated pg-13 or R
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6:38PM on 04/11/2012
yeah...still a little confused myself. It seems to me Mr. Scott was kinda contradicting himself
yeah...still a little confused myself. It seems to me Mr. Scott was kinda contradicting himself
6:22PM on 04/11/2012

Scary Movie was PG

I remember seeing the first "Scary Movie" in the theatre and it was rated PG. Little did we know that there were several penis shots and parents were fucking livid.

For the record it was obviously a mistake on their part for here in Ontario, Canada so please stop saying what it was in the States.
I remember seeing the first "Scary Movie" in the theatre and it was rated PG. Little did we know that there were several penis shots and parents were fucking livid.

For the record it was obviously a mistake on their part for here in Ontario, Canada so please stop saying what it was in the States.
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6:28PM on 04/11/2012
Probably wasn't PG in the US though. It was 13+ in Quebec.
Probably wasn't PG in the US though. It was 13+ in Quebec.
6:29PM on 04/11/2012
Scary Movie: [link]

You're either joking or have a really bad memory.
Scary Movie: [link]

You're either joking or have a really bad memory.
6:29PM on 04/11/2012
I was working in a movie theater box office here in the US when Scary Movie was released. It has always been rated R here.
I was working in a movie theater box office here in the US when Scary Movie was released. It has always been rated R here.
6:29PM on 04/11/2012
I'm in Ontario, it was PG here, not even 14A.
I'm in Ontario, it was PG here, not even 14A.
6:30PM on 04/11/2012
It was obviously a mistake guys but up here in Ontario it was PG and warning signs were put up because the theatre can't change the rating.
It was obviously a mistake guys but up here in Ontario it was PG and warning signs were put up because the theatre can't change the rating.
6:36PM on 04/11/2012
haha no way. there was a scene of a guy shooting comedically massive load on a girl
haha no way. there was a scene of a guy shooting comedically massive load on a girl
6:12PM on 04/11/2012

Watch LOGAN'S RUN

If there was ever a film that shows what a farce the MPAA is, this is it. PG rated, with an orgy that shows bush. 'nuff said
If there was ever a film that shows what a farce the MPAA is, this is it. PG rated, with an orgy that shows bush. 'nuff said
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6:11PM on 04/11/2012
The MPAA has as much relevance as usefulness as the Comics Code Authority.
The MPAA has as much relevance as usefulness as the Comics Code Authority.
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7:10PM on 04/11/2012
The CCA doesn't exist anymore. It was put out to pasture quite a few years ago.
The CCA doesn't exist anymore. It was put out to pasture quite a few years ago.
7:29PM on 04/11/2012
@DaForce, thus the metaphor
@DaForce, thus the metaphor
7:42PM on 04/11/2012
I couldn't agree anymore!
I couldn't agree anymore!
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