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Will 3D save Blu-Ray?

01.04.2011

If you thought the format war was over when Blu-Ray killed HD-DVD, you were wrong, as now a far greater battle is taking place: streaming and downloads vs. physical media. On one side we have services like Netflix which offer hi-def movies streaming straight to a consumer's DVD, which is a welcome alternative to $35 Blu-rays.

But there could be a light on the horizon for the format, and it comes in the form of...sigh, 3D. Currently there are only 30 3D Blu-ray titles on the market right now, but that number is increasing rapidly due to everyone agreeing on the process of formatting 3D on the disc.

"I don't think I've ever seen an association turn out a spec in such rapid time," Blu-ray exec Parsons said. "The alternative would have been two or three different ways to do 3D on a disc -- and that's death to a format. Everyone understood that could happen. We avoided what could have been an ugly, messy situation."

But is home 3D really the revolution analysts are claiming it will be? I recently had the displasure of viewing a Sony 3D TV with $100 shutter glasses. I watched a movie about fish for a few minutes, the depth looked fine, but it wasn't anything to make me shell out $3-5K for the TV and $40 for the Blu-ray. Afterwards though? I felt incredibly dizzy and nauseous, something that's never once happened to me watching 3D in the theater. I literally had to sit down I was so disoriented, and after my internal mechanisms righted themselves after ten minutes, I was thoroughly turned off to the idea. That was ust my personal experience, but I wonder if others have been affected the same way.

Do you think home 3D will eventually become mainstream, or will 3D TVs need to go glasses free first? And will you spend $40 to buy a new movie on 3D Blu-ray? That's 2/3rds of a video game at that point, which offers anywhere from 5x to 50x the number of hours of entertainment.

Extra Tidbit: Also 3D TV does NOT look like any of the pictures you see of things coming out of the screen. it just gives the picture a mild amount of depth. It's not like holograms come out of your TV and circle around you.
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6:24PM on 01/06/2011
screw 3d

all i have to say
screw 3d

all i have to say
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6:02PM on 01/06/2011
Um... what's all the fuss about. Sure, cloud services for streamed content is great... if I only ever want to watch a movie once. But if it's a film I actually want to have around to be able to view multiple times then I'll go for the Blu-ray, no different than buying a DVD way back when. Oh, except the Blu-ray also comes with a DVD and a digital copy that I can watch on my computer or throw on my ipod without having to spend the time ripping it myself!

As for 3D, why would anyone waste
Um... what's all the fuss about. Sure, cloud services for streamed content is great... if I only ever want to watch a movie once. But if it's a film I actually want to have around to be able to view multiple times then I'll go for the Blu-ray, no different than buying a DVD way back when. Oh, except the Blu-ray also comes with a DVD and a digital copy that I can watch on my computer or throw on my ipod without having to spend the time ripping it myself!

As for 3D, why would anyone waste their money on 3D in the home until you don't have to wear glasses? Seriously people. It's on the way, companies are desperately trying to get it out as fast as possible because it will be another tremendous cash cow. All you have to do is not buy a new TV now, and not buy a bunch of stupid glasses either, and just wait it out while your current LCD or Plasma still looks good.
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3:13AM on 01/06/2011

Confused

I've seen 3D on about 4 different brands of TV and Samsung, Sony and Panasonic are all great in 3D. To say it only gives "mild" depth confuses me and makes me wonder if your eyes are 20/20. As for streaming movies taking down physical formats I severely doubt it. There will always be people who want to own the hard copy and there will be people who want to watch the poorer quality, streamed picture with the lower quality sound. Also $35 Blu Rays would be rare as I'm in Australia and I can get
I've seen 3D on about 4 different brands of TV and Samsung, Sony and Panasonic are all great in 3D. To say it only gives "mild" depth confuses me and makes me wonder if your eyes are 20/20. As for streaming movies taking down physical formats I severely doubt it. There will always be people who want to own the hard copy and there will be people who want to watch the poorer quality, streamed picture with the lower quality sound. Also $35 Blu Rays would be rare as I'm in Australia and I can get some new movies for under $20 and some older go for 2 for $20 specials and that's months before our dollar was 1 on 1 with the US. This isn't a very informed article and a bit of a disappointment for me as I've followed the JOBLO website for years.
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9:28PM on 01/05/2011
Who the FUCK pays for $35 Blu-Rays? Retards, that's who. I got Inception for $17 day and date of release. The Expendables is $13, The A-Team is $13, The Social Network is $17, and I can go on and on. These aren't five-year-old bargain bin titles, so don't give me that shit.
Who the FUCK pays for $35 Blu-Rays? Retards, that's who. I got Inception for $17 day and date of release. The Expendables is $13, The A-Team is $13, The Social Network is $17, and I can go on and on. These aren't five-year-old bargain bin titles, so don't give me that shit.
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3:13PM on 01/05/2011
I guess no one told the big exec guys:

3D is a fucking gimmick and it will always stay a fucking gimmick!
I guess no one told the big exec guys:

3D is a fucking gimmick and it will always stay a fucking gimmick!
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2:59PM on 01/05/2011

And for the record

On Amazon, you pay $24 for a 3D blu-ray, you get a 3D version of the movie, a Blu-ray version of the movie, a DVD version of the movie AND a gotdamn digital copy of the movie. When did DVD EVER offer content value remotely close to that? Get the fuck outta here wit that cryin' shit. Just don't buy it. Simple as that.
On Amazon, you pay $24 for a 3D blu-ray, you get a 3D version of the movie, a Blu-ray version of the movie, a DVD version of the movie AND a gotdamn digital copy of the movie. When did DVD EVER offer content value remotely close to that? Get the fuck outta here wit that cryin' shit. Just don't buy it. Simple as that.
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2:58PM on 01/05/2011
Blu-ray is doing so well in the UK that one company has stopped releasing titles on the format because there aren't enough people buying the discs, their customers are sticking with DVD.

Personally, I have no real interest in HD at all. A good film is a good film; it doesn't need to be shown on a wall-sized screen or in 3D.
Blu-ray is doing so well in the UK that one company has stopped releasing titles on the format because there aren't enough people buying the discs, their customers are sticking with DVD.

Personally, I have no real interest in HD at all. A good film is a good film; it doesn't need to be shown on a wall-sized screen or in 3D.
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2:53PM on 01/05/2011

while you're at it

why don't you bitch about every other car made thats NOT the one you chose to own. How bout every other piece of clothing made other than the ones you buy. I don't get fuckin' cryin' over shit you AREN'T FORCED TO BUY. And for the "$35" Blu-rays mentioned above, thats your fault for shoppin' wherever you shop instead of Amazon. I get FOUR blu-rays for $35 on Amazon. Choices and alternatives people, shit ain't that hard...
why don't you bitch about every other car made thats NOT the one you chose to own. How bout every other piece of clothing made other than the ones you buy. I don't get fuckin' cryin' over shit you AREN'T FORCED TO BUY. And for the "$35" Blu-rays mentioned above, thats your fault for shoppin' wherever you shop instead of Amazon. I get FOUR blu-rays for $35 on Amazon. Choices and alternatives people, shit ain't that hard...
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12:45PM on 01/05/2011

3D sucks

if you know anything about tech its that they cant actually stream real HD yet and wont be able to for years. Blu-Ray's are roughly 40-60GB in size which would be impossible to stream (just try DL a 1gig file without streaming) now so they cut down the video to 720p (then most TV's upconvert it to 1080p) and dont do any audio in HD, just regular stereo or surround (aka 2.0). So your paying for hi-def without getting HD. 3D is complete crap it wont ever be big until they can do it without the
if you know anything about tech its that they cant actually stream real HD yet and wont be able to for years. Blu-Ray's are roughly 40-60GB in size which would be impossible to stream (just try DL a 1gig file without streaming) now so they cut down the video to 720p (then most TV's upconvert it to 1080p) and dont do any audio in HD, just regular stereo or surround (aka 2.0). So your paying for hi-def without getting HD. 3D is complete crap it wont ever be big until they can do it without the glasses, try to make those glasses last while having kids, good luck with that, and the price is crazy.
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11:46AM on 01/05/2011
Too early to tell... There will always be markets for streaming, hard copy, and ever 3d. What I really want a 3DTV for (until good 3dblurays come out) is gaming. Gran Turismo 3d anyone?
Too early to tell... There will always be markets for streaming, hard copy, and ever 3d. What I really want a 3DTV for (until good 3dblurays come out) is gaming. Gran Turismo 3d anyone?
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10:03AM on 01/05/2011

Say What?

Just wondering if any of the technically inclined could answer a question; why can't they make 3D Bu-Rays or even players that would be compatible with standard high def T.V.s? In other words, why do I have to buy completely new gear in order to watch a 3D movie when more money could be made (probably) by retrofitting the hardware we all have already? I don't think Bl_ray will be saved by 3D, I think content will eventually bring us all around again.
Just wondering if any of the technically inclined could answer a question; why can't they make 3D Bu-Rays or even players that would be compatible with standard high def T.V.s? In other words, why do I have to buy completely new gear in order to watch a 3D movie when more money could be made (probably) by retrofitting the hardware we all have already? I don't think Bl_ray will be saved by 3D, I think content will eventually bring us all around again.
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3:02AM on 01/05/2011
While i do own a blu ray player, i only own about 30 plus movies from the format compared to almost 300 plus dvds i still own. Bottom line is i only buy a movie on blu ray if its worthy. Regular dvds still look great on a blu ray because of the conversion. DVDs will not have the same fate as VHS & plus blu ray movies are still so damn expensive at almost $30 a pop while dvds can still be bought $10 to $15 less. As far as 3D, i have never been a fan as it is & always will be a gimmick &
While i do own a blu ray player, i only own about 30 plus movies from the format compared to almost 300 plus dvds i still own. Bottom line is i only buy a movie on blu ray if its worthy. Regular dvds still look great on a blu ray because of the conversion. DVDs will not have the same fate as VHS & plus blu ray movies are still so damn expensive at almost $30 a pop while dvds can still be bought $10 to $15 less. As far as 3D, i have never been a fan as it is & always will be a gimmick & nowadays a marketing ploy to acheive higher movie grosses, plain & simple. I did not even know blu rays were having issues anyway as this is news to me.
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2:28AM on 01/05/2011
If there's enough people in the world (like me) who would rather have an actual product in their hand. Instead of just a digital copy, then Blu-Ray and regular dvd will do just fine.
If there's enough people in the world (like me) who would rather have an actual product in their hand. Instead of just a digital copy, then Blu-Ray and regular dvd will do just fine.
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1:16AM on 01/05/2011
Someone please kill Blu-ray and put those extra features they hoard for the format BACK on regular DVD releases!!!! I hate the fact that all regular DVD releases now have no real special features. Blu-ray bastards...
Someone please kill Blu-ray and put those extra features they hoard for the format BACK on regular DVD releases!!!! I hate the fact that all regular DVD releases now have no real special features. Blu-ray bastards...
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1:05AM on 01/05/2011
What all you anti 3D tards don't seem to understand, while whining endlessly about it, is that IT IS NOW INTERNATIONAL LAW that you MUST re purchase ALL of your DVD/Blu Ray collections. You must, no two ways about it. You can't watch them anymore, no way, it's law that you buy them all over again in 3D.
LOL, fucking goons, whining on about having a choice of A or B. Damn you technology!!! Why can't we just get Beta back then we'll all be happy.
BTW Paul, youre extra tidbit at the bottom of
What all you anti 3D tards don't seem to understand, while whining endlessly about it, is that IT IS NOW INTERNATIONAL LAW that you MUST re purchase ALL of your DVD/Blu Ray collections. You must, no two ways about it. You can't watch them anymore, no way, it's law that you buy them all over again in 3D.
LOL, fucking goons, whining on about having a choice of A or B. Damn you technology!!! Why can't we just get Beta back then we'll all be happy.
BTW Paul, youre extra tidbit at the bottom of the article REALLY made sense. You mean 3D TV doesn't look like photoshopped images of shit flying out of the tv into your lounge room? Damn. Case closed then huh.
Just making a statement like that proves you have no idea what 3D is, and is tryignt o achieve. Best go have a lie down before all the nausea and dizzyness make your brain explode
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12:27PM on 01/05/2011
People are "whining" because of the idea that oversaturation of 3D (making it the standard) is inevitable. Yes we have a choice right now, but in 10 years it might either be all streaming or all 3D. Just like you said, where are those beta tapes? Or cassettes? Hell, you can hardly find CD's anymore.

But please, enlighten us to the important goals that 3D is trying to achieve (besides a new revenue stream).
People are "whining" because of the idea that oversaturation of 3D (making it the standard) is inevitable. Yes we have a choice right now, but in 10 years it might either be all streaming or all 3D. Just like you said, where are those beta tapes? Or cassettes? Hell, you can hardly find CD's anymore.

But please, enlighten us to the important goals that 3D is trying to achieve (besides a new revenue stream).
1:05AM on 01/05/2011
I have watched about a dozen or so movies at the theater in 3D and found it to be ok. The only standout movie was Avatar. I walked out feeling fine but Recently I went to my local TV store and checked out a 3D tv and after 5 mins I felt dizzy etc. Maybe one day in the future when they perfect it I may return for another viewing but until then 2D baby.....2D. As for streaming HD... Ummmm....No. I don't think it will replace BD. People need to hold something tactile in their hand. Streaming
I have watched about a dozen or so movies at the theater in 3D and found it to be ok. The only standout movie was Avatar. I walked out feeling fine but Recently I went to my local TV store and checked out a 3D tv and after 5 mins I felt dizzy etc. Maybe one day in the future when they perfect it I may return for another viewing but until then 2D baby.....2D. As for streaming HD... Ummmm....No. I don't think it will replace BD. People need to hold something tactile in their hand. Streaming quality doesn't come anywhere near the quality of Blu. I may be a bit bias coz I have nearly 400 BD's and would hate for BD to collapse. I hate shit quality, Thats why I upgraded to Blu and will never revert back after being spoiled. I love the freedom to take a copy of a movie to a mates place. Bit hard to lug around a tv or HD or If my mate says "Ohh can I borrow a movie" and you have to lend a Hard Drive full of everything you own and he accidentally erases your whole collection and then you have to hunt the bastard down break his frikken legs.
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9:58PM on 01/04/2011

*shrug*

I love a nice sharp Blu-Ray.
For me, streaming HD isn't on the cards yet.

And why wouldn't you be able to stream 3D movies, if the need arose?
AND, why do movie studios care? They make their bucks on a BluRay, and they make their bucks from Netflicks.
Whatever brings in the money baby.
I love a nice sharp Blu-Ray.
For me, streaming HD isn't on the cards yet.

And why wouldn't you be able to stream 3D movies, if the need arose?
AND, why do movie studios care? They make their bucks on a BluRay, and they make their bucks from Netflicks.
Whatever brings in the money baby.
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9:24PM on 01/04/2011

A convert

I was resistant to 3D and was perfectly happy with my Blu Rays but had to buy a new TV at Christmas and went on and bought a Samsung 3D and LOVE it. I have experienced none of the problems that others have. The 3D movies are awesome and the 2D to 3D conversion mode works great. I think people are expecting things to pop out of the screen like the old 3D but the new process isnt like that. It just gives an added depth. I wear glasses anyway so really am not bothered by the glasses. Watched Iron
I was resistant to 3D and was perfectly happy with my Blu Rays but had to buy a new TV at Christmas and went on and bought a Samsung 3D and LOVE it. I have experienced none of the problems that others have. The 3D movies are awesome and the 2D to 3D conversion mode works great. I think people are expecting things to pop out of the screen like the old 3D but the new process isnt like that. It just gives an added depth. I wear glasses anyway so really am not bothered by the glasses. Watched Iron Man2 converted to 3D and it was amazing.No regrets here!
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9:14PM on 01/04/2011

3D is a fad @ best, might continue in theaters.

I have seen probably about 5 movies total in 3D & only enjoyed one in the 3D process. I'm not talking story or anything else just the process. Avatar looked amazing in 3D but I also saw it in IMAX. I've tried watching 3D @ Home not a 3D TV mind you, & it sucks to say the least. What will probably happen is 3D might still be how they put them in theaters, but probably go 2D when they put out for viewers. I honestly will be shocked if 3D is around much @ all in 10 years. Especially since
I have seen probably about 5 movies total in 3D & only enjoyed one in the 3D process. I'm not talking story or anything else just the process. Avatar looked amazing in 3D but I also saw it in IMAX. I've tried watching 3D @ Home not a 3D TV mind you, & it sucks to say the least. What will probably happen is 3D might still be how they put them in theaters, but probably go 2D when they put out for viewers. I honestly will be shocked if 3D is around much @ all in 10 years. Especially since you have to have at least a 47' inch screen for it to be even mediocre looking. I just bought a new TV, & even when the prices come down, they will probably still cost 3 times @ the least what a regular LCD TV will cost. I just got a new TV & I love it so far. I didn't even look @ 3D TV's. Besides the price I don't see myself ever having to watch TV wearing those absurd glasses to watch! I know I'm not the only one that hates it. Can you imagine getting up every so often, take off the glasses, then having to put them back on over and over and over again? Not me.
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9:05PM on 01/04/2011
Consider yourself lucky you never felt dizzy and nauseous at the theater - 3D is dead to me. I could give a shit what the studios do.
Consider yourself lucky you never felt dizzy and nauseous at the theater - 3D is dead to me. I could give a shit what the studios do.
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9:03PM on 01/04/2011

Blech

After watching a couple of 3-d flicks in the theatre, i was a little dizzy and naseous. And i sure as hell ain't shillin out for a 3-d tv. regardless of if they go glasses free or not. i just got an lcd, and love that. the idea that i would have to wear a pair of glasses to watch tv is absolutly retarded.
After watching a couple of 3-d flicks in the theatre, i was a little dizzy and naseous. And i sure as hell ain't shillin out for a 3-d tv. regardless of if they go glasses free or not. i just got an lcd, and love that. the idea that i would have to wear a pair of glasses to watch tv is absolutly retarded.
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8:14PM on 01/04/2011
3D is okay as long as it is a film that uses the technology to its advantage. Unfortunately, greedy producers think everything should be in 3d now to make a few extra bucks, when in reality the 3D is really just unnecessary. There may be a niche market for 3D fans, but I don't think it will become main stream unless they can get rid of the glasses. Blu-ray and high-def made movies and tv better, but 3D doesn't. Am i going to wear glasses everynight so I can the Daily Show in 3D. Of course not.
3D is okay as long as it is a film that uses the technology to its advantage. Unfortunately, greedy producers think everything should be in 3d now to make a few extra bucks, when in reality the 3D is really just unnecessary. There may be a niche market for 3D fans, but I don't think it will become main stream unless they can get rid of the glasses. Blu-ray and high-def made movies and tv better, but 3D doesn't. Am i going to wear glasses everynight so I can the Daily Show in 3D. Of course not. Thus the practical use isn't there.
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8:00PM on 01/04/2011
Oh and one more thing... the thought of classic films that have already been released, get re-released in 3-D makes me wanna choke someone.
Oh and one more thing... the thought of classic films that have already been released, get re-released in 3-D makes me wanna choke someone.
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7:55PM on 01/04/2011

Screw 3-D

Before you know it we're gonna be seeing everything in frigging 3-D. I'm sick of it. I remember when the 3-D format was used just for entertainment purposes in campy horror films. Now we have in every stinking picture. Even football on TV. I mean really now, why the hell would you want to watch football in 3-D.
And I agree with diblob, make it to where we don't need to wear those freaking glasses and maybe...just maybe we'll take this third dimension crap more seriously.

And as for
Before you know it we're gonna be seeing everything in frigging 3-D. I'm sick of it. I remember when the 3-D format was used just for entertainment purposes in campy horror films. Now we have in every stinking picture. Even football on TV. I mean really now, why the hell would you want to watch football in 3-D.
And I agree with diblob, make it to where we don't need to wear those freaking glasses and maybe...just maybe we'll take this third dimension crap more seriously.

And as for Blu-ray, I could care less really. I have plenty of movies on DVD and my HD has loads more.
I am not going to replace the movies I already have just to upgrade to another format. Plus if I wanna see a movie that comes out on DVD that I havent seen I can always stream it. If I like it I'll add it to my collection one way or another. ;)

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7:31PM on 01/04/2011
First of all, I don't think that 3D is gonna replace or top anything. I can't imagine everything being in 3D and I can't imagine the majority of people wanting everything in 3D. There are some things that can be fun in 3D, but who really wants to watch historical dramas and older movies not meant for 3D, in 3D. So, I don't think it will be the norm (though many a company marketing strategies would make you believe otherwise).

On the subject of download/streaming vs. Blu-ray, I believe that
First of all, I don't think that 3D is gonna replace or top anything. I can't imagine everything being in 3D and I can't imagine the majority of people wanting everything in 3D. There are some things that can be fun in 3D, but who really wants to watch historical dramas and older movies not meant for 3D, in 3D. So, I don't think it will be the norm (though many a company marketing strategies would make you believe otherwise).

On the subject of download/streaming vs. Blu-ray, I believe that this is eventually. We're a society that is gearing towards becoming a completely automated and instant society where most things will be available off a network and can be ordered, delivered, or streamed, lest some great technological disaster befalls us. But, if technology continues to evolve the way it is, we won't even have to leave the house for much of anything. So, I think that eventually, the physical element will eventually be lost to instant streaming, downloading, etc. and that no amount of 3D could save it. However, as of right now, streaming still is an imperfect way to acquire media and not everyone has the capability of getting good copies of media by way of downloads and streams, whereas DVD and Blu-ray still have superior quality and uniterrupted playback.
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6:12PM on 01/04/2011

IT'S INEVITABLE

Streaming video and Downloads will become the way most of the population gets its media in the future. I think within the next decade Television and Internet will slowly merge into one, making cable obsolete. You'll now go to websites like Hulu to watch shows instead of channels. Your cable box and Blu ray player will be replaced by a hardrive, and your television will be your computer moniter.
Streaming video and Downloads will become the way most of the population gets its media in the future. I think within the next decade Television and Internet will slowly merge into one, making cable obsolete. You'll now go to websites like Hulu to watch shows instead of channels. Your cable box and Blu ray player will be replaced by a hardrive, and your television will be your computer moniter.
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6:43PM on 01/04/2011
The OWl speaketh the truth. I reckon that's exactly what'll happen, we're nearly there already. I do love Blu Ray and will always prefer to buy products cos I like packaging and you can't show off your harddrive to impress people with your movie collection. I think what they need to do is seriously lower the prices of Blu Rays though. I tend to buy them from Amazon cos I refuse to pay over 20 dollars for 1 movie, there is no justifcation for it. And on Amazon you rarely do pay over 20$.

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The OWl speaketh the truth. I reckon that's exactly what'll happen, we're nearly there already. I do love Blu Ray and will always prefer to buy products cos I like packaging and you can't show off your harddrive to impress people with your movie collection. I think what they need to do is seriously lower the prices of Blu Rays though. I tend to buy them from Amazon cos I refuse to pay over 20 dollars for 1 movie, there is no justifcation for it. And on Amazon you rarely do pay over 20$.

P.S. You stink and your mom doesn't like you.
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5:49PM on 01/04/2011

Boo

I have all HD television with the blu-ray. It's incredible. So I think to myself, "How can this get any better?" and I head over to Best Buy to check out the 3D tv. It was the worst looking thing I have ever seen. It was blury and the 3D depth was almost non-exsistent. Now maybe in a few years it will take over, but as far as I'm concerned for the moment blu-ray: 1 3D TV: 0
I have all HD television with the blu-ray. It's incredible. So I think to myself, "How can this get any better?" and I head over to Best Buy to check out the 3D tv. It was the worst looking thing I have ever seen. It was blury and the 3D depth was almost non-exsistent. Now maybe in a few years it will take over, but as far as I'm concerned for the moment blu-ray: 1 3D TV: 0
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5:45PM on 01/04/2011

Netflix, etc. will win

Streaming is the way of the future, because bandwidth is only growing and growing. Meaning that eventually streaming HD will be as good as DVD and then BluRay. The "hard copy" folks are just praying that doesn't happen too fast so that enough BluRays can be sold to finally triumph over DVD financially.

People on this site, and who really appreciate visuals and effects, rightfully want to see [link] movies in beautiful HD. Even to a casual movie-watcher, something like Wall-E or Star Trek
Streaming is the way of the future, because bandwidth is only growing and growing. Meaning that eventually streaming HD will be as good as DVD and then BluRay. The "hard copy" folks are just praying that doesn't happen too fast so that enough BluRays can be sold to finally triumph over DVD financially.

People on this site, and who really appreciate visuals and effects, rightfully want to see [link] movies in beautiful HD. Even to a casual movie-watcher, something like Wall-E or Star Trek really needs good HD. But what about True Grit? Or Slumdog? Or Dumb and Dumber? Or South Park? If it pops up on Netflix for "free" (my monthly payment), then I will never buy a BluRay or even DVD for a movie like that.

Getting something instantly and cheap will win out. Pirating, Netflix, or AppleTV, pick your poison. There is not enough demand for 3D to make that a reason to buy a BluRay player and 3DTV.

And can they make 3D glasses that aren't tinted? It is annoying that the movie has to seem darker if it's in 3D (another reason Avatar's 3D was so much better, because the movie was just brighter).
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5:48PM on 01/04/2011
That "link" in my post is just supposed to be a few words, so replace with: "sci-fi, action, and animated"
That "link" in my post is just supposed to be a few words, so replace with: "sci-fi, action, and animated"
6:29PM on 01/04/2011
The one thing that might hinder the download/streaming movement is the almost inevitable usage cap from internet providers. You are right, bandwidth is growing, but providers are haveing a hard time keeping up with the demand. look at AT&T before the iphone... rated number one in the industry. Then the iphone came out and killed the network because of downloads. I know that is a cell provider and not a home based system but the same could happen. Time warner is already putting the kibash on
The one thing that might hinder the download/streaming movement is the almost inevitable usage cap from internet providers. You are right, bandwidth is growing, but providers are haveing a hard time keeping up with the demand. look at AT&T before the iphone... rated number one in the industry. Then the iphone came out and killed the network because of downloads. I know that is a cell provider and not a home based system but the same could happen. Time warner is already putting the kibash on netflix in some markets due to streaming video.
I love my physical media and hope what has happened to the music indusry doesn't happen to the film industry too.
5:41PM on 01/04/2011
If Avatar had ended up doing shitty boxoffice numbers I dont't think we would be having this conversation.
If Avatar had ended up doing shitty boxoffice numbers I dont't think we would be having this conversation.
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5:40PM on 01/04/2011
I will always prefer the physical copy. There is so much freedom compared to streaming. Grabbing it off your shelf and taking it to a buddy's place is a lot easier than both of you paying to have it streaming. There are loads of special features that don't come with streaming versions, and like mentioned in other comments, the A/V quality is unmatched. You're also not limited to an internet connection (depending on the streaming service)

People have been underestimating the popularity of the
I will always prefer the physical copy. There is so much freedom compared to streaming. Grabbing it off your shelf and taking it to a buddy's place is a lot easier than both of you paying to have it streaming. There are loads of special features that don't come with streaming versions, and like mentioned in other comments, the A/V quality is unmatched. You're also not limited to an internet connection (depending on the streaming service)

People have been underestimating the popularity of the Blu-ray format. Sure it's not outselling DVDs but that's not the format's fault, it's the manufacturer's behind the tech that can support it. That and people are stubborn. Only big box retail stores charge $35 for a Blu-ray movie, and I agree that's absurd. That's why I purposely get mine cheaper elsewhere. Most of the time (I'm in Canada) I order them from the US because they are always cheaper there and don't have French on the packaging.

As far as I'm concerned, if you have a TV over 32 inches, LCD or LED or plasma, with a surround sound system and you're still watching DVDs on it...you've wasted money on that TV because you're not using it how it's meant to be used. I watch Blu-rays on my 24" computer monitor with a disc drive in the PC, know why? DVD can't match the picture and sound quality. Simple as that. It's just better.

Now I'm all for 3D, when it's done right. There is too much unnecessary 3D for cash grabbing happening right now. When/if people get their act together about that, I will be much happier. But movies like Avatar, even How to Train Your Dragon, when the 3D is done right it's great! I'm pro 3D but it has to be done properly before it becomes mainstream.
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5:02PM on 01/04/2011
I'm sure 3D will be the norm in the future. But it will be far into the future. Look at how long it took to get 3D in the theaters and even now, the technology still isn't there. The quality of the 3D is just so shitty.
I'm sure 3D will be the norm in the future. But it will be far into the future. Look at how long it took to get 3D in the theaters and even now, the technology still isn't there. The quality of the 3D is just so shitty.
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4:57PM on 01/04/2011
Fuck 3-D, and fuck 3-D blu-rays! I've seen 4 movies in 3-D up to date in theatre and I didn't give a damn! Go to hell with your depth and whatnot!
Fuck 3-D, and fuck 3-D blu-rays! I've seen 4 movies in 3-D up to date in theatre and I didn't give a damn! Go to hell with your depth and whatnot!
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4:51PM on 01/04/2011
I don't even have a blue ray player. Guess I should get on the ball sometime in the future and get an upgrade, but not without getting rid of my old cathode ray tv as well. Not in that big of a hurry though. They still don't impress me all that much.
I don't even have a blue ray player. Guess I should get on the ball sometime in the future and get an upgrade, but not without getting rid of my old cathode ray tv as well. Not in that big of a hurry though. They still don't impress me all that much.
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4:40PM on 01/04/2011

forgive me...

it seems i was mistaken in my supposed knowledge of dvd vs blu-ray. forgive me for my obtuse statement. though i still stand by my overall idea. even if blu ray takes off there will be some other product in about ten years that costs more but does ESSENTIALLY the same thing. yall need to study concepts like "planned obsolescence". ALL consumer products are cash grabs, this is their nature. bluray wasnt created to fill a need, it was made to drain wallets. P2P file sharing fills a need. If
it seems i was mistaken in my supposed knowledge of dvd vs blu-ray. forgive me for my obtuse statement. though i still stand by my overall idea. even if blu ray takes off there will be some other product in about ten years that costs more but does ESSENTIALLY the same thing. yall need to study concepts like "planned obsolescence". ALL consumer products are cash grabs, this is their nature. bluray wasnt created to fill a need, it was made to drain wallets. P2P file sharing fills a need. If bluray is the dark side of emerging entertainment technology then file sharing is the light side.
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11:20PM on 01/04/2011

In some time all the rage will be 2K systems then the jump to 4K, then who knows. Is it a way to make money? Absolutely, but you can’t deny the demand when there are multiple industries in place trying to keep up with it.
Of course it will cost more, because of simple inflation, the dollar will be worth less than it is today.
And ALL consumer products do ESENTIALLY the same thing as their predecessors… they just do them faster or better.
And planned obsolescence?
That brings me to a

In some time all the rage will be 2K systems then the jump to 4K, then who knows. Is it a way to make money? Absolutely, but you can’t deny the demand when there are multiple industries in place trying to keep up with it.
Of course it will cost more, because of simple inflation, the dollar will be worth less than it is today.
And ALL consumer products do ESENTIALLY the same thing as their predecessors… they just do them faster or better.
And planned obsolescence?
That brings me to a story a teacher once told me about some car wax he bought in the late seventies or early eighties, but the name brand escapes me at the moment.
This car wax was so good you only needed to use it once a year, maybe. It was so good this company put itself out of business…
So yes everything thing you buy is built to break at some point. Cars lose value right off the lot. Computers are obsolete the moment you buy them. It doesn’t mean they won’t work and work well for quite a while.
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4:04PM on 01/04/2011
3-D in the cinema is fine once or twice a year at best. I don't find it adds enough to the movie going experience to make it worth while. I certainly don't want it at home, and I certainly wouldn't be willing to pay crazy prices for it.
3-D in the cinema is fine once or twice a year at best. I don't find it adds enough to the movie going experience to make it worth while. I certainly don't want it at home, and I certainly wouldn't be willing to pay crazy prices for it.
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3:49PM on 01/04/2011
I love the blu-ray format. And the average amount I pay for one is around $20 these days. Netflix streaming is cool but the A/V quality won't ever be as definitive as a physical product. Especially with increasing bit rates.

And as for 3D - nobody is running around grabbing up classic paintings like the Mona Lisa and adding "new depth". 2D built the film industry and good movies give you all the depth you'll ever need.
I love the blu-ray format. And the average amount I pay for one is around $20 these days. Netflix streaming is cool but the A/V quality won't ever be as definitive as a physical product. Especially with increasing bit rates.

And as for 3D - nobody is running around grabbing up classic paintings like the Mona Lisa and adding "new depth". 2D built the film industry and good movies give you all the depth you'll ever need.
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3:28PM on 01/04/2011
The moment I can watch movies in 3D WITHOUT a stupid contraption on my head, then I'll jump onboard. Until then, this is still just the experimental phase of 3D that I'm not really interested in.
The moment I can watch movies in 3D WITHOUT a stupid contraption on my head, then I'll jump onboard. Until then, this is still just the experimental phase of 3D that I'm not really interested in.
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3:12PM on 01/04/2011
Double double with cheese
Double double with cheese
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3:06PM on 01/04/2011
Back to the topic at hand (you know Blu vs. streaming not everybody vs. 3D)

If any format, including 3D does what it can to keep a physical copy in my hand I am grateful. I am one of those people that has to watch every feature included on the disc, including the commentary tracks... which is the whole home theatre experience in my mind.

If publishers use the 3D Combo Packs which tend to include a 3D version, Blu version, a DVD copy, and a Digital copy to keep my disc drive full then
Back to the topic at hand (you know Blu vs. streaming not everybody vs. 3D)

If any format, including 3D does what it can to keep a physical copy in my hand I am grateful. I am one of those people that has to watch every feature included on the disc, including the commentary tracks... which is the whole home theatre experience in my mind.

If publishers use the 3D Combo Packs which tend to include a 3D version, Blu version, a DVD copy, and a Digital copy to keep my disc drive full then Im happy.

I have netflix and Vudu and can't wait for the day that Hulu plus is really up and running, so I like to have the option for either.

Just like 3D in the theatres... don't take away my option and I won't bitch.

Tidbit... Most made for 3D demo discs are meant to give an expanded depth of field instead of jump out gags.

Oh and for the tech side of it, buying a 3D TV is going to net you the BEST HDTV on the market... How you ask. Simple. For 3D to work on a LED backlit LCD TV, everything has to work remarkably well on the TV itself. Contrast ratio, refresh rate, and color reproduction etc. so by dropping an extra 500 - 900 bucks on a feature you may never use, you will have the best TV on the market hands down. As was mentioned before people who buy 3D TVs may have extra cash to burn, but they want to burn it on superior picture quality.
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2:47PM on 01/04/2011

thank you

For once I actually agree with every post on this article!! Look, lets not kid ourselves. Blu rays are just a huge money making scheme. There is literally no valid reason dvds cant look as good or store as much info, they just want to milk us for all we're worth. Im not prejudice against blu rays (pretty soon I'll have no choice but to buy em, dvds are obviously being pushed out of the market). Every single dvd you buy from thelast 4 years has a blu ray preview on it. They are pissed because
For once I actually agree with every post on this article!! Look, lets not kid ourselves. Blu rays are just a huge money making scheme. There is literally no valid reason dvds cant look as good or store as much info, they just want to milk us for all we're worth. Im not prejudice against blu rays (pretty soon I'll have no choice but to buy em, dvds are obviously being pushed out of the market). Every single dvd you buy from thelast 4 years has a blu ray preview on it. They are pissed because people arent buying into this shit so they're tryin to cram it down our throats. One can only hope these clowns will realize that you cant sell anything and blu ray will die a slow painful death, if not then just wait 10 or so years and there will be the next brand of at-home movies claiming "flawless sound and picture, better than blu-ray!!"; I see it now.
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3:12PM on 01/04/2011
Are you kidding? Do you know the limitations of DVD vs Blu?

A dual layer DVD has a maximum limit of 9.5 gigs where Blu can carry up to 80 gigs on the consumer end and a lab in Japan has created a Blu disc that can hold a full terabyte... not a cash grab as much as technology moving forward.
Are you kidding? Do you know the limitations of DVD vs Blu?

A dual layer DVD has a maximum limit of 9.5 gigs where Blu can carry up to 80 gigs on the consumer end and a lab in Japan has created a Blu disc that can hold a full terabyte... not a cash grab as much as technology moving forward.
3:38PM on 01/04/2011
Wow. Do you not realize that DvD's don't even com close to the storage space of a bluray? Yes you are right that a movie can look as good on a DvD as it does on a Bluray the only problem is for it to look as goo it needs to be 5-10x the size of what a DvD can hold.
Wow. Do you not realize that DvD's don't even com close to the storage space of a bluray? Yes you are right that a movie can look as good on a DvD as it does on a Bluray the only problem is for it to look as goo it needs to be 5-10x the size of what a DvD can hold.
2:40PM on 01/04/2011
I don't know if i can get used to watching 3D movies, after watching avatar and jackass 3D, i got dizzy and headaches afterwards. could be just me, but i prefer old fashioned 2-D
I don't know if i can get used to watching 3D movies, after watching avatar and jackass 3D, i got dizzy and headaches afterwards. could be just me, but i prefer old fashioned 2-D
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2:25PM on 01/04/2011
Blu-Ray is fine the way it is.
3D will probably collapse by the end of 2011.
Blu-Ray is fine the way it is.
3D will probably collapse by the end of 2011.
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1:56PM on 01/04/2011

heh

3D is meh and until they can get it to the point that it's 3D without the glasses i don't see it taking off.

As for DL completely replacing hard copy i can't see it happening. Companies are already having a hard time with pirating and to bring the medium into a completely digital arena will only exasperate the situation.

As for the tidbit: this is the companies making money off ignorance. I can guarantee there are ppl out there who really think that shit comes out of the TV at you and
3D is meh and until they can get it to the point that it's 3D without the glasses i don't see it taking off.

As for DL completely replacing hard copy i can't see it happening. Companies are already having a hard time with pirating and to bring the medium into a completely digital arena will only exasperate the situation.

As for the tidbit: this is the companies making money off ignorance. I can guarantee there are ppl out there who really think that shit comes out of the TV at you and floats around.
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1:55PM on 01/04/2011

FROM AN ECONOMIC POINT OF VIEW....

Let's not kid ourselves -- it's about money! If Blu-Ray are available for a cheap price the public will bite! It's that simple! BTW - Blu Ray and 3D moth are overrated!!
Let's not kid ourselves -- it's about money! If Blu-Ray are available for a cheap price the public will bite! It's that simple! BTW - Blu Ray and 3D moth are overrated!!
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1:34PM on 01/04/2011

The touch just feels right

Physical is still the way forward and will be for a long long time. You dont get all the extras with streaming, people do actually watch all the additional content on hardcopy. Streaming is never perfect, sound and/or picture quality for that matter, you lose something in the transfer, where as you get pretty much the whole package with a physical copy.
Physical is still the way forward and will be for a long long time. You dont get all the extras with streaming, people do actually watch all the additional content on hardcopy. Streaming is never perfect, sound and/or picture quality for that matter, you lose something in the transfer, where as you get pretty much the whole package with a physical copy.
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1:22PM on 01/04/2011
I Buy 3D Blu Rays as long as they are combo packs, because I think that 1 day I will own a 3D set up and wont have to double dip. Having said that, the 3D craze is getting annoying... make SOME movies in 3D, the ones that truly deserve a 3D atmosphere.

But in terms of Digital vs. Physical... perhaps i am in the minority, but i LOVE my collection. I own near 4000 titles on DVD & Blu ray and when a movie comes out that i want to own, simply downloading it is not sufficient, I want to own the
I Buy 3D Blu Rays as long as they are combo packs, because I think that 1 day I will own a 3D set up and wont have to double dip. Having said that, the 3D craze is getting annoying... make SOME movies in 3D, the ones that truly deserve a 3D atmosphere.

But in terms of Digital vs. Physical... perhaps i am in the minority, but i LOVE my collection. I own near 4000 titles on DVD & Blu ray and when a movie comes out that i want to own, simply downloading it is not sufficient, I want to own the cover artwork and the case.
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1:22PM on 01/04/2011
I have never used a 3D tv but a few of my friends did one night and had the same experience you did. They had to immediately turn it off because they got so dizzy.
I have never used a 3D tv but a few of my friends did one night and had the same experience you did. They had to immediately turn it off because they got so dizzy.
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1:19PM on 01/04/2011
$35 blu-rays?!?! Either you're getting them at FYE or you're not taking advantage of first week sales.

I fucking hate streaming media.. the quality is shit (even when it says it's HD) and nothing can replace owning a PHYSICAL copy. I guess I'm stuck in the past and I'm gonna be that asshole in 40 years clamoring about owning a disc instead of pressing a button and having it pop onto my screen.

On a side note: I work part time at Best Buy through college and I can tell you first hand
$35 blu-rays?!?! Either you're getting them at FYE or you're not taking advantage of first week sales.

I fucking hate streaming media.. the quality is shit (even when it says it's HD) and nothing can replace owning a PHYSICAL copy. I guess I'm stuck in the past and I'm gonna be that asshole in 40 years clamoring about owning a disc instead of pressing a button and having it pop onto my screen.

On a side note: I work part time at Best Buy through college and I can tell you first hand (in our store at least) that the 3D market is a fad. Most of the people I've seen purchase a 3D TV are the ones that have extra cash to spend on stupid shit to entertain themselves for a couple of days. Whenever I see them back in the store they're buying their blu-rays in 2D instead because it's fun for a couple of minutes. To sit with those glasses on for a 2 hour movie is obnoxious and annoying. I honestly can't see 3D being a staple in home entertainment.
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2:11PM on 01/04/2011
Pretty much took the words right outta my mouth...
Pretty much took the words right outta my mouth...
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1:14PM on 01/04/2011
im totally against 3D becoming mainstream, that will ruin movies as we know them... plus, 3D is still not that advanced to justify the move from regular filming to 3D, and even if it was, do you really want to be wearing some plastic glasses everytime you want to see a movie????
now, regarding bluray, i think bluray by itself will not survive much longer, i believe something will appear to take its place, but still, i prefer to have a phisical disc rather than pay to see a movie with less
im totally against 3D becoming mainstream, that will ruin movies as we know them... plus, 3D is still not that advanced to justify the move from regular filming to 3D, and even if it was, do you really want to be wearing some plastic glasses everytime you want to see a movie????
now, regarding bluray, i think bluray by itself will not survive much longer, i believe something will appear to take its place, but still, i prefer to have a phisical disc rather than pay to see a movie with less quality than the bluray and especially because i wont get to keep it.
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12:55PM on 01/04/2011
Fuck 3D blu rays.....while Netflix and Redbox are good alternatives, I prefer a good blu ray in my home.
Fuck 3D blu rays.....while Netflix and Redbox are good alternatives, I prefer a good blu ray in my home.
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