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08.02.2016

Suicide Squad Rotten Tomatoes

If you've been keeping up on the SUICIDE SQUAD news lately you'll likely be aware that the first wave of reviews for the upcoming DC flick haven't exactly been overly positive. According to Rotten Tomatoes, SUICIDE SQUAD is currently sitting at 37%, which in an improvement over BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE's 27%, but still low enough to leave the much anticipated DC movie as "certified rotten."

A group of DC fans have had enough with Rotten Tomatoes' apparent bias towards the films in the DCEU and have started a petition to get the site shut down, saying "we need this site to be shut down because It's Critics always give The DC Extended Universe movies unjust Bad Reviews, Like 1- Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice 2016 [and] 2- Suicide Squad 2016 and that Affects people's opinion even if it's a really great movies." Even if the petition was created as a joke, there are still plenty of people who seem to be taking it seriously and agreeing that Rotten Tomatoes is a part of the "conspiracy" against DC movies and needs to be shut down.

Sigh, first off, Rotten Tomatoes itself has nothing to do with whether a review is positive or negative, they're simply a film review aggregator. I know this, you know this, but apparently some people do not know this. Just like us, critics are regular people with their own individual opinions, sometimes those opinions coincide with our own and sometimes they don't, but no matter whether it's negative or positive, a well written review which offers up some intriguing insights and new perspectives is always a joy to read.

While I was definitely hoping that SUICIDE SQUAD would be better received by critics, I'm enjoying reading the reviews and still plan on checking out the film for myself and coming to my own conclusions rather than letting two numbers completely influence my thinking. Our own Paul Shirey said much the same thing in his latest installment of C'mon Hollywood, although with a more eloquent touch, so I highly recommend giving it a read.

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1:52PM on 08/04/2016

Stop it. Just Stop it.

Going out to the movies is more expensive then ever and there are so many more being released now than when we were kids that we do have to pick and choose what we see. I don't just rely on trailers and promotional material. I don't rely on word of mouth or box office sales either because I don't trust the general public to share my tastes. Since Ebert died I haven't found a reliable critic who shares my tastes to get my recommendations from. I ignored the critics reviews to go see Bats v.
Going out to the movies is more expensive then ever and there are so many more being released now than when we were kids that we do have to pick and choose what we see. I don't just rely on trailers and promotional material. I don't rely on word of mouth or box office sales either because I don't trust the general public to share my tastes. Since Ebert died I haven't found a reliable critic who shares my tastes to get my recommendations from. I ignored the critics reviews to go see Bats v. Supes and that turned out to be a giant time suck. Best thing we can do is rely on our instincts, aggregators like Rotten Tomatoes, and the occasional well written review on a site like this to make our decision. Getting mad about someone else not sharing your taste in movies, music, or whatever else doesn't make any sense. Love whatever it is you love and discard the rest.
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9:50PM on 08/03/2016

Oy

RT is sort of ridiculous. If every single critic gave a movie a 59% (D-), it would be the highest rated film on that site of all time. Having a boolean for whether a movie is good or not is boiled-down insanity. At least metacritic actually averages a number (0-100) instead of a Bad/Good (0-1).
RT is sort of ridiculous. If every single critic gave a movie a 59% (D-), it would be the highest rated film on that site of all time. Having a boolean for whether a movie is good or not is boiled-down insanity. At least metacritic actually averages a number (0-100) instead of a Bad/Good (0-1).
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7:49PM on 08/03/2016
The only thing I don't get about RT is how they assess a certain review that is right down the middle to be either rotten or fresh. For instance, something that gets a 2.5 out of 5 is given a rotten vote in some cases, while in others it is fresh. What is the deciding factor here? How about when a reviewer neglects to even include a rating? How do you assess that? So yeah, don't make RT your be all/end all for judging a movie's potential. At the same token though, starting a petition over the
The only thing I don't get about RT is how they assess a certain review that is right down the middle to be either rotten or fresh. For instance, something that gets a 2.5 out of 5 is given a rotten vote in some cases, while in others it is fresh. What is the deciding factor here? How about when a reviewer neglects to even include a rating? How do you assess that? So yeah, don't make RT your be all/end all for judging a movie's potential. At the same token though, starting a petition over the site and claiming it may be conspiring against DC films may be going a bit far...
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6:54PM on 08/03/2016

Hopefully the petition is a joke, but RT is crap....

There is always 1 or 2 critics that the site uses who give horrible reviews to films that are universally loved by critics and the audience alike (and these same retards will give stuff like Green Lantern or Fantastic Four a thumbs up). They obviously do it to get attention and drive traffic to their site, and RT does nothing to address this idiocy.

Are the critics overly biased against DC? Yes. BvS was a mediocre movie, but certainly better than 27% (I've seen unwatchable movies get
There is always 1 or 2 critics that the site uses who give horrible reviews to films that are universally loved by critics and the audience alike (and these same retards will give stuff like Green Lantern or Fantastic Four a thumbs up). They obviously do it to get attention and drive traffic to their site, and RT does nothing to address this idiocy.

Are the critics overly biased against DC? Yes. BvS was a mediocre movie, but certainly better than 27% (I've seen unwatchable movies get 40% or higher). So Suicide Squad is probably disappointing considering it's potential (and the great marketing campaign), but it's highly unlikely that it actually deserves a Pixels-level score.
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4:59PM on 08/03/2016

Stop Crying!

DC has a long legacy of taking glorious tales and making a mess of them. Be it live action or annimated, DC properties are for the most part unreliable. Sure, Christopher Nolan made some amazing films and select Animated titles brought the art of storytelling back to home-video, but when your catalog includes, Green Lantern, Superman Return, Watchmen and a host of other let downs, critics will be critical. As a fan, the only thing you should be worried about is the quality of the project. What
DC has a long legacy of taking glorious tales and making a mess of them. Be it live action or annimated, DC properties are for the most part unreliable. Sure, Christopher Nolan made some amazing films and select Animated titles brought the art of storytelling back to home-video, but when your catalog includes, Green Lantern, Superman Return, Watchmen and a host of other let downs, critics will be critical. As a fan, the only thing you should be worried about is the quality of the project. What do you care about critics? I loved Creed and it didn't have the commercial success I thought it deserved and on occasion people talk trash about it, but it doesn't take away from my joy of the film. Stop being a whimpering cry baby and hope that the film is as good as you hope and if not, maybe you should insist that DC make some serious changes. Unlike Marvel, they have the rights to their entire catalog and for some reason, they can't get their act together,
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1:37PM on 08/04/2016
I thought both Superman Returns and Watchmen were very good and I think the critical response to those could best be described as mixed. WB's attempts at translated their comic book franchises onto the big screen have been no where near as successful as Marvel's I will give you that. They really rushed into the shared universe concept and didn't give it the time to develop it needed. The idea of grounding this universe in something closer to our shared reality was a good one but they never got
I thought both Superman Returns and Watchmen were very good and I think the critical response to those could best be described as mixed. WB's attempts at translated their comic book franchises onto the big screen have been no where near as successful as Marvel's I will give you that. They really rushed into the shared universe concept and didn't give it the time to develop it needed. The idea of grounding this universe in something closer to our shared reality was a good one but they never got the tone right and missed the things that made the characters intriguing in the first place.

Also, Creed was great but the public isn't into boxing anymore.
3:50PM on 08/03/2016
I keep seeing statements like, "see the movie. Make up your own mind." What people who are pushing for this movie, or any movie, to do well don't seem to understand when they say things like that is that most people ARE making up their own mind. The only people who are saying the movie sucks based on reviews alone are people who already had something against it. Other people may not see it on the big screen, but will probably see it eventually. Just because they are not going to give it extra
I keep seeing statements like, "see the movie. Make up your own mind." What people who are pushing for this movie, or any movie, to do well don't seem to understand when they say things like that is that most people ARE making up their own mind. The only people who are saying the movie sucks based on reviews alone are people who already had something against it. Other people may not see it on the big screen, but will probably see it eventually. Just because they are not going to give it extra box office numbers doesn't mean they are not making their own choices. It is no one's obligation to see a movie just to appease the people who want that movie to do well. Also, "Just go see it" sounds more like the villain in an early 90s peer pressure ad than it sounds like the voice of someone trying to get people to think for themselves.
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3:09PM on 08/03/2016

Seriously!?!

I really can't comment on the quality of the movie yet, seeing as how I won't be seeing it until Friday night, but this is a bit moronic. Even DC fans have admitted that, up until now, this cinematic universe has been underwhelming... But now they are so certain that Suicide Squad will be great that they want Rotten Tomatoes torn down? These are the same DC fans that said the idea of Ben Affleck as Batman was the dumbest decision they'd ever heard?
I really can't comment on the quality of the movie yet, seeing as how I won't be seeing it until Friday night, but this is a bit moronic. Even DC fans have admitted that, up until now, this cinematic universe has been underwhelming... But now they are so certain that Suicide Squad will be great that they want Rotten Tomatoes torn down? These are the same DC fans that said the idea of Ben Affleck as Batman was the dumbest decision they'd ever heard?
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6:57PM on 08/03/2016
I thought Batffleck was a terrible decision, but I was obviously wrong. Although his Bruce Wayne is monotone to the point of being terrible, he played a great Batman and the part was written brilliantly.

But no, these aren't the same DC fans. That's an assumption you're making that is every bit as stupid as the one being made but the nutters who think RT is out to get them.
I thought Batffleck was a terrible decision, but I was obviously wrong. Although his Bruce Wayne is monotone to the point of being terrible, he played a great Batman and the part was written brilliantly.

But no, these aren't the same DC fans. That's an assumption you're making that is every bit as stupid as the one being made but the nutters who think RT is out to get them.
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2:52PM on 08/03/2016
Love marvel and DC......but something is up and needs to be fixed. Rotten Tomatoes gave Ghostbusters a fresh rating and we all know that movie was a fucking mess no way was it good. They need to keep the trolls off that site
Love marvel and DC......but something is up and needs to be fixed. Rotten Tomatoes gave Ghostbusters a fresh rating and we all know that movie was a fucking mess no way was it good. They need to keep the trolls off that site
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2:45PM on 08/03/2016
No one complains when RT ranks a movie in the 90% (Dark Knight films) even though in principle it is the same system that is ranking movies as rotten. The movie is just bad, get over it. If you like it, great. But what other people think shouldn't matter or effect whether or not you like it.
No one complains when RT ranks a movie in the 90% (Dark Knight films) even though in principle it is the same system that is ranking movies as rotten. The movie is just bad, get over it. If you like it, great. But what other people think shouldn't matter or effect whether or not you like it.
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2:41PM on 08/03/2016

Dear god.

Yes, the Warner Brothers-owned Rotten Tomatoes has a secret plan to ruin the Warner Brothers film "Suicide Squad." Makes sense.

It might make a little MORE sense if Rotten Tomatoes actually wrote the reviews instead of listing what every popular critic and site member thinks of a movie.
Yes, the Warner Brothers-owned Rotten Tomatoes has a secret plan to ruin the Warner Brothers film "Suicide Squad." Makes sense.

It might make a little MORE sense if Rotten Tomatoes actually wrote the reviews instead of listing what every popular critic and site member thinks of a movie.
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1:01PM on 08/03/2016

The movie sucks, get over it.

The marketing was all over the place. The movie itself was just this horrible amalgamation of origin stories and then everyone takes a backseat to Will Smith and Margot Robbie. Joker is just a loser in the movie with few scenes, but nobody should have expected more, it isn't a Joker movie. The last act of the movie sucked and was full of shitty CGI creatures. The Squad members are just boring. Jai Courtney ruined another role. Killer Croc looked stupid and did absolutely nothing. Most of the
The marketing was all over the place. The movie itself was just this horrible amalgamation of origin stories and then everyone takes a backseat to Will Smith and Margot Robbie. Joker is just a loser in the movie with few scenes, but nobody should have expected more, it isn't a Joker movie. The last act of the movie sucked and was full of shitty CGI creatures. The Squad members are just boring. Jai Courtney ruined another role. Killer Croc looked stupid and did absolutely nothing. Most of the members did nothing. This was just another shitty DC movie that tries too hard to take itself seriously. Margot Robbie SUCKED as Harley too. Harley wasn't made to be a piece of ass, she is supposed to have CHARACTER not just say stupid things and act silly. She was horrible.
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12:38PM on 08/03/2016

Someone is thumbing the scale....

There are poorly written, edited, acted, and shot movies out there with much higher ratings than DC properties as of late. I saw Civil War once in the theater. It was okay. Honestly, I'm just tired of the formula. I liked that DC was going with the Fight Club ambiance and the movie is beautifully produced. The dialogue is higher caliber (you might need at least a high school education to get the parallels the movie was drawing), the stakes are much higher, and the movie treats the audience
There are poorly written, edited, acted, and shot movies out there with much higher ratings than DC properties as of late. I saw Civil War once in the theater. It was okay. Honestly, I'm just tired of the formula. I liked that DC was going with the Fight Club ambiance and the movie is beautifully produced. The dialogue is higher caliber (you might need at least a high school education to get the parallels the movie was drawing), the stakes are much higher, and the movie treats the audience with respect.
I consider this massive dump that critics have taken on DC as form of censorship. Had critics not attacked BvS with impunity, there's a possibility that David Ayer would not have had to compromise his vision for the execs who attempted to please the critics. Ghostbusters was not a good movie. I laughed. It had cool effects...whatever. But, it wasn't a Ghostbusters movie. It felt more like parody of Ghostbusters. It didn't feel genuine. But, it got a pass with critics? Was that because they liked it or because they didn't want bad press for downgrading a movie with four women in the cast?
This may effect the bottom line when it comes to finances for Suicide Squad. Next thing you know, they start screwing with WW or Justice League (if you already can't tell by the out-of-place tone in the preview) and impacting the vision of the creators. That is censorship. Critics are going overboard with their hate of certain properties and holding back their vitriol for other properties. Its all a mess. So, as a fan, I signed the petition; not because I want Rotten Tomatoes to disappear, but mostly because I truly believe there is some unfair treatment of DC properties and I feel strong enough to add my voice.
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1:01PM on 08/03/2016
This movies dialogue was written by a 10 year old. It was just agonizing.
This movies dialogue was written by a 10 year old. It was just agonizing.
1:09PM on 08/03/2016
You're right, there is an unfair treatment of DC properties. But not by critics, by Warner Bros.
You're right, there is an unfair treatment of DC properties. But not by critics, by Warner Bros.
11:54AM on 08/03/2016

Immature reaction

People seem to forget that, between Batman Returns & Batman Begins, WB had a pretty terrible record with superhero movies and you couldn't blame it on a "Marvel conspiracy" back then. There is just something about today's self-proclaimed "DC fans"* that makes them unable to accept negative reviews. It's pretty simple: if WB persist in hiring directors of poorly reviewed films, they will get poorly reviewed superhero films. It's not more complicated than that.

*I say self-proclaimed because,
People seem to forget that, between Batman Returns & Batman Begins, WB had a pretty terrible record with superhero movies and you couldn't blame it on a "Marvel conspiracy" back then. There is just something about today's self-proclaimed "DC fans"* that makes them unable to accept negative reviews. It's pretty simple: if WB persist in hiring directors of poorly reviewed films, they will get poorly reviewed superhero films. It's not more complicated than that.

*I say self-proclaimed because, honestly, which comic fan doesn't like Batman and Superman? They were plenty of people who love both characters who didn't like Batman V. Superman BECAUSE they love both characters. Liking the film doesn't make anyone a bigger DC fan.
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2:34PM on 08/03/2016
That said, David Ayers is a director who has had good and bad movies, but I generally give the benefit of the doubt to.
That said, David Ayers is a director who has had good and bad movies, but I generally give the benefit of the doubt to.
11:47AM on 08/03/2016

In a world

Where Thor the Dark World has a higher score than BvS, I don't really rely on Rotten tomatoes.

Also they're inconsistent. Sometimes they'll rate someone's 2.5 out of 5 as fresh and then rate a different review with the same 2.5 out of 5 as rotten. Seemingly to suit their own purpose. Ghostbusters had several reviews rated fresh with the same rating as reviews rated rotten in other movies.
Where Thor the Dark World has a higher score than BvS, I don't really rely on Rotten tomatoes.

Also they're inconsistent. Sometimes they'll rate someone's 2.5 out of 5 as fresh and then rate a different review with the same 2.5 out of 5 as rotten. Seemingly to suit their own purpose. Ghostbusters had several reviews rated fresh with the same rating as reviews rated rotten in other movies.
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12:20PM on 08/03/2016
You're right, with the 2.5 star reviews it depends on whether the critic overall recommends the film or not. Critics can also have their review changed from positive to negative and vice verse if they feel how it was categorized doesn't reflect the spirit of their review.
You're right, with the 2.5 star reviews it depends on whether the critic overall recommends the film or not. Critics can also have their review changed from positive to negative and vice verse if they feel how it was categorized doesn't reflect the spirit of their review.
11:28AM on 08/03/2016

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Could it also be that the movie just wasn't good? A movie that hyped up, and anticipated will of course be held against higher standards, thats obvious. The extreme negative reviews came from years of anticipation to only be let down with a sub par product, so naturally people are gonna be more critical and passionate about their opinion. Im not saying that people can't like it, of course they can, but they are clearly in the minority. BvS played like a heavily front loaded fan film like
Could it also be that the movie just wasn't good? A movie that hyped up, and anticipated will of course be held against higher standards, thats obvious. The extreme negative reviews came from years of anticipation to only be let down with a sub par product, so naturally people are gonna be more critical and passionate about their opinion. Im not saying that people can't like it, of course they can, but they are clearly in the minority. BvS played like a heavily front loaded fan film like WarCraft in China, where everyone showed up in droves on opening weekend, then it was forgotten after. It had no legs like marvel movies have, BVS had horrendous second and third week drops, cringe worthy, all pointing to the fact that general audience goers were very dissapointed in the finished product.
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12:41PM on 08/03/2016
People have a right to like and dislike what they want. I have no doubt that some folks don't like BvS and some critics don't like Suicide Squad. It is very possible a movie can be "just a bad movie," but what one person thinks is trash another thinks is gold. It is all based on an opinion. I, for one, can't classify BvS as a bad movie. A bad movie to me is something like Sharknado or Skeleton Man. It likely means that my judgement of movies is less harsh than others. At the same time,
People have a right to like and dislike what they want. I have no doubt that some folks don't like BvS and some critics don't like Suicide Squad. It is very possible a movie can be "just a bad movie," but what one person thinks is trash another thinks is gold. It is all based on an opinion. I, for one, can't classify BvS as a bad movie. A bad movie to me is something like Sharknado or Skeleton Man. It likely means that my judgement of movies is less harsh than others. At the same time, while I liked BvS, I can't classify it as good as other movies I liked much more. Guardians of The Galaxy, Jurassic World, Star Trek Beyond, and many others. So I guess I just don't think BvS is as bad as some people claim it to be. You claim that thinking it isn't that bad puts me in the minority, but I would have to say that really depends on who you ask. :)
12:47PM on 08/03/2016
Oh and one more thing. This world these days, people are drawing lines in the sand and taking sides. If a person doesn't agree, the other side insults them or tells them they are stupid. I'm not taking sides with movies. I love them. Period. Even some bad ones. I love comic book movies. I love DC. I love Marvel. I can only rate one movie better than another and I can point out movies that are just bad and enjoy making fun of them (The Room, Skeleton Man, Sharknado)
Oh and one more thing. This world these days, people are drawing lines in the sand and taking sides. If a person doesn't agree, the other side insults them or tells them they are stupid. I'm not taking sides with movies. I love them. Period. Even some bad ones. I love comic book movies. I love DC. I love Marvel. I can only rate one movie better than another and I can point out movies that are just bad and enjoy making fun of them (The Room, Skeleton Man, Sharknado)
10:46AM on 08/03/2016

Critics

Are only fans paid to review movies, and just like fans, critics have their own taste in what makes a good movie. Most critics, excluding the kind found on this site, don't even like comic books or fantasy or science fiction and can't be relied upon for a good review of that type of movie. With that in mind, quite often the RT score has been correct on many movies but also on some blatantly off. Batman V Superman for example deserves a much higher rating if "Turbokid" can have a positive
Are only fans paid to review movies, and just like fans, critics have their own taste in what makes a good movie. Most critics, excluding the kind found on this site, don't even like comic books or fantasy or science fiction and can't be relied upon for a good review of that type of movie. With that in mind, quite often the RT score has been correct on many movies but also on some blatantly off. Batman V Superman for example deserves a much higher rating if "Turbokid" can have a positive score. Why is the rating so low? Because more people reviewed BvS. The bottom line is that no one should use RT as their sole decision-making tool to see a movie. The reviews aren't reliable and there are many complete nobody reviewers there that show up out of the blue to trash big movies and then never show up again. You are much better served finding a site like this one to base your decision on. My decision is always based on how badly I want to see the movie. No review will stop me from seeing a movie I want to see, even if it means disappointment. This is why I ignored the BvS reviews and enjoyed the movie. I will do the same for Suicide Squad.
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11:45AM on 08/03/2016
Is it a coincedence that BVS and Suicide have almost identical ratings? Its like the fast and furious franchise minus the heart
Is it a coincedence that BVS and Suicide have almost identical ratings? Its like the fast and furious franchise minus the heart
12:25PM on 08/03/2016
I agree that a lot of the people on Rotten Tomatoes have no critical background at all and calling them a "a movie critic" is kind of a joke, however RT has pretty stringent guidelines you have to meet in order to get included. You have to have reviewed films for at least 3 years on a site or blog that gets something like 50,000 or more hits a month. Once added, you have to agree to participate for at least a year, so, while I can see how it could definitely feel otherwise, fly by night
I agree that a lot of the people on Rotten Tomatoes have no critical background at all and calling them a "a movie critic" is kind of a joke, however RT has pretty stringent guidelines you have to meet in order to get included. You have to have reviewed films for at least 3 years on a site or blog that gets something like 50,000 or more hits a month. Once added, you have to agree to participate for at least a year, so, while I can see how it could definitely feel otherwise, fly by night reviewers are pretty rare to Non-existent on RT.
12:44PM on 08/03/2016
Donatello11 - Fast and Furious has a heart? Seriously? Those movies are pure tongue-in-cheek crap. There was more time an effort put into designing Batman's costume than the entire franchise of Fast and the Furious. Have you seen the art work and design that went into BvS?
Btw, Turbokid is a great movie. For its production value, it has 10 times more heart that Fast and Nauseous. :)
Donatello11 - Fast and Furious has a heart? Seriously? Those movies are pure tongue-in-cheek crap. There was more time an effort put into designing Batman's costume than the entire franchise of Fast and the Furious. Have you seen the art work and design that went into BvS?
Btw, Turbokid is a great movie. For its production value, it has 10 times more heart that Fast and Nauseous. :)
12:53PM on 08/03/2016
gibsoncr1,
for the record I did not mean to imply that Turbokid was a bad movie, only that it had a high rating and BvS had a very low rating. You mentioned the production values of BvS, and using that as an example, is just one reason I don't think it deserves the lowly rating it has on RT. There are others, but we are falling into opinion category. I actually thought Turbokid was a good movie, although I could not rate it as highly as it is rated on RT and I wouldn't rate it higher than
gibsoncr1,
for the record I did not mean to imply that Turbokid was a bad movie, only that it had a high rating and BvS had a very low rating. You mentioned the production values of BvS, and using that as an example, is just one reason I don't think it deserves the lowly rating it has on RT. There are others, but we are falling into opinion category. I actually thought Turbokid was a good movie, although I could not rate it as highly as it is rated on RT and I wouldn't rate it higher than BvS. That's just one man's opinion though!
5:01PM on 08/03/2016
We're talking about box office and critical success, based on both of those BvS failed in both departments. Liking the movie doesnt matter, good for u if u like it, thats great, but it doesnt change the fact that it was a dissapointment
We're talking about box office and critical success, based on both of those BvS failed in both departments. Liking the movie doesnt matter, good for u if u like it, thats great, but it doesnt change the fact that it was a dissapointment
10:38AM on 08/03/2016

Just accept it guys...

Theirs something really wrong with DC films, like really wrong. For some reason they are completely clueless about sensible plots, appealing characters, and creating even an interesting premise. Im not a huge fan of marvel or anything but at least they can deliver a movie that flows and follows more conventional storytelling methods. Batman vs Superman was a HUGE waste of an opportunity, I mean how do you screw up a movie that has Batman and Superman in it and 250 million to play with? its
Theirs something really wrong with DC films, like really wrong. For some reason they are completely clueless about sensible plots, appealing characters, and creating even an interesting premise. Im not a huge fan of marvel or anything but at least they can deliver a movie that flows and follows more conventional storytelling methods. Batman vs Superman was a HUGE waste of an opportunity, I mean how do you screw up a movie that has Batman and Superman in it and 250 million to play with? its amazing how they fucked that up, I was rooting for this film but I have a feeling now that its gonna have the same mistakes as BvsSuperman.
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12:28PM on 08/03/2016
Agreed. I love DC comics and they're films could be just as good or better than Marvel's, but they just haven't been so far. I'm more upset at the studio than the critics.
Agreed. I love DC comics and they're films could be just as good or better than Marvel's, but they just haven't been so far. I'm more upset at the studio than the critics.
10:32AM on 08/03/2016
Although I think people are over reliant on RT scores, these fans need to get over it. What are you doing with your life when you begin petitioning to shut down a movie review site?
Although I think people are over reliant on RT scores, these fans need to get over it. What are you doing with your life when you begin petitioning to shut down a movie review site?
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8:39AM on 08/03/2016
I'm not affraid to admit that i use RT to see if a movie might or might not be worth my time or money. Usually, i use A combination of RT, IMDB and Joblo. Is that satisfaction guaranteed? Probably not always. But if it's smells like a turd, it probably will be a turd. I wish I had done this with "Jason Bourne". I would have been glad enough to have seen this on bluray at home.... So yeah, i do believe RT, IMDB and even Joblo have influence on boxoffice figures (to some extent).

I love
I'm not affraid to admit that i use RT to see if a movie might or might not be worth my time or money. Usually, i use A combination of RT, IMDB and Joblo. Is that satisfaction guaranteed? Probably not always. But if it's smells like a turd, it probably will be a turd. I wish I had done this with "Jason Bourne". I would have been glad enough to have seen this on bluray at home.... So yeah, i do believe RT, IMDB and even Joblo have influence on boxoffice figures (to some extent).

I love movies, i have no opinion on comics, dont read them, not my kind of medium. Therefore i don't really understand the feud between Marvel and DC. I think Batman and Superman are (out of al the others ) the most interesting superheroes, with the richest cannon, especially bats.

But i'm not affraid to admit: MoS (5/10) BvS theatrical (4/10) BvS extended (6,5/10). Why? because: Batman Begins (8/10) Dark Knight (9/10) Dark Knight Rises (7,5/10). It's as simple as that, that is the standard i'm holding them against. Marvel keeps churning out 6,5's to 8's (not supergreat but passable), and DC get's an average of 5 on their latest flicks. And SS seems to be no different then his predecessor, all flash, no boom. And that is even though their property seems to have much deeper backstory and canon.

It's these reviewers job to give their own opinions on a film, and if you can't deal with other opinions then your own.... grow up! And to blame RT as a medium that is just laughable.
Don't get mad at Marvel, don't blame reviewers... aim your fury at the Warner Bros exec's, Nolan, Snyder and Ayer for not giving you better movies. Because the property that you're a fan of... is worth a whole lot more, than the dribble you have been given until now.
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8:08AM on 08/03/2016
It's a confusing mindset - someone doesn't like a movie you've probably not even seen yet so they must be silenced? I get that they really want the film to be good - ideally all films would be good - but sometimes things suck or aren't for everyone and that's life.
It's a confusing mindset - someone doesn't like a movie you've probably not even seen yet so they must be silenced? I get that they really want the film to be good - ideally all films would be good - but sometimes things suck or aren't for everyone and that's life.
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7:47AM on 08/03/2016

Warner Bros probably secretly launched this campaign... These movies are expensive

Warner Bros must be pissed about these bad reviews. This movie has been trending for a large opening weekend haul and this makes it less likely. Rotten Tomatoes severely damaged the box-office prospects of BvS, but to be fair, it wasn't a great movie. Some movies, like most of the Transformer ones, seem to survive bad reviews without much financial pain. Im still gonna see Suicide Squad so we will see how moviegoers respond.
Warner Bros must be pissed about these bad reviews. This movie has been trending for a large opening weekend haul and this makes it less likely. Rotten Tomatoes severely damaged the box-office prospects of BvS, but to be fair, it wasn't a great movie. Some movies, like most of the Transformer ones, seem to survive bad reviews without much financial pain. Im still gonna see Suicide Squad so we will see how moviegoers respond.
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6:48AM on 08/03/2016

Dumb.

I'll admit that I know people who will only go see a movie based on RT reviews. I have been coming to Joblo since 2007 for my movie news and reviews and I know I can trust John 'Arrow' Fallon or Chris Bumbray. Jimmy O too most of the time. I also know that I hate Eric W's reviews on this site. Does that mean he's wrong? Hell no, we just dont like the same kinds of movies. DC does seem to get judged a little unfairly. I loved MOS and liked BvS.. dont think they deserverd all the hate. We will
I'll admit that I know people who will only go see a movie based on RT reviews. I have been coming to Joblo since 2007 for my movie news and reviews and I know I can trust John 'Arrow' Fallon or Chris Bumbray. Jimmy O too most of the time. I also know that I hate Eric W's reviews on this site. Does that mean he's wrong? Hell no, we just dont like the same kinds of movies. DC does seem to get judged a little unfairly. I loved MOS and liked BvS.. dont think they deserverd all the hate. We will see about suicide squad but I always love David Ayer films.. i just hope the studio didnt cut out too much. 100 min seems a bit short.
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5:38AM on 08/03/2016
I'm not saying "Who cares about RT", but more like "Why do even bother about RT"?
I'm amazed for years that people consider RT's ratings more significant than any other movie website's ratings, when in fact, the whole Rotten Tomatoes rating system is flawed. Don't ban the website, just stop visiting it.
I'm not saying "Who cares about RT", but more like "Why do even bother about RT"?
I'm amazed for years that people consider RT's ratings more significant than any other movie website's ratings, when in fact, the whole Rotten Tomatoes rating system is flawed. Don't ban the website, just stop visiting it.
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4:48AM on 08/03/2016

Well said Mr. Fraser

Reviews are just opinions. I love a variety of movies that no one I know seem to care for. And it doesn't matter. I love them for MY REASONS. So stop whining about what other people are saying. Remember, it's not fact, it's opinion. See the movie for yourself and make up your own mind.
Reviews are just opinions. I love a variety of movies that no one I know seem to care for. And it doesn't matter. I love them for MY REASONS. So stop whining about what other people are saying. Remember, it's not fact, it's opinion. See the movie for yourself and make up your own mind.
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4:06AM on 08/03/2016
This all goes back to this culture of turning everything that goes against your in-group into some kind of political conspiracy. God forbid anyone take responsibility for anything anymore, or accept that not everything in your list of talking points/cultural suitcase is perfect. To admit any fault whatsoever is to "lose", and everyone's obsessed with not being a loser...despite not playing for anything. So because of this, we now live in the era of Shoot The Messenger.

Does a movie you
This all goes back to this culture of turning everything that goes against your in-group into some kind of political conspiracy. God forbid anyone take responsibility for anything anymore, or accept that not everything in your list of talking points/cultural suitcase is perfect. To admit any fault whatsoever is to "lose", and everyone's obsessed with not being a loser...despite not playing for anything. So because of this, we now live in the era of Shoot The Messenger.

Does a movie you decided to like before watching suck? Blame the critics! Does a movie you decided to hate *not* suck enough? Invent a corporate conspiracy! Is your favorite politician an idiot? Blame the media! Did someone show you hard data that undermines your preconceived worldview? Blame them for "bias"! Whatever you do, don't change your mind or think for yourself!
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5:30AM on 08/03/2016
Bravo! Very well stated.
Bravo! Very well stated.
12:18PM on 08/03/2016
And that is what is wrong with people. Well put, but unfortunately it's only going to get worse.
And that is what is wrong with people. Well put, but unfortunately it's only going to get worse.
3:40AM on 08/03/2016

Ridicilous demand

On the other hand I was never a fan of RT and their the black and white rating. There is no middle ground for all the okay movies out there. Their "Average Rating" is a much better indicator for a movie than just rotten/fresh.
On the other hand I was never a fan of RT and their the black and white rating. There is no middle ground for all the okay movies out there. Their "Average Rating" is a much better indicator for a movie than just rotten/fresh.
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2:33AM on 08/03/2016
While I agree that this pretty stupid, I'm not sure if I agree with a couple of these statements. Of course there is subjectivity in movies and in art in general, but there is a basic storytelling formula. There are BETTER movies than others. The fact that we can acknowledge that there are better movies than others proves that there is a formula for making a good movie. So reviewing movies is not completely subjective. The issue arises when people become involved. People are not always
While I agree that this pretty stupid, I'm not sure if I agree with a couple of these statements. Of course there is subjectivity in movies and in art in general, but there is a basic storytelling formula. There are BETTER movies than others. The fact that we can acknowledge that there are better movies than others proves that there is a formula for making a good movie. So reviewing movies is not completely subjective. The issue arises when people become involved. People are not always objective. People can and do bring in their own baggage or belief systems into movies. Some people are better at reviewing movies objectively and some are worse. The fact that this happens does not mean reviewing movies is simply someone's opinions. It means that we need to trust GOOD movie reviewers. A majority decision does not mean that the correct decision is made. I agree that we are too dependent on critics, but they are supposed to be experts in their field, right?
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2:29AM on 08/03/2016
DC fans are psychotic. Grow up!
DC fans are psychotic. Grow up!
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1:53AM on 08/03/2016
RT is a ratings aggregator. It's like saying I blame reddit for bad news (which some do) yet it's still not the source. Ultimately, if they're mad at their RT score blame the critics or rather blame the direction of these movies or the ones that said we have to play catch up like now to a company that had 3 studios release their movies after almost 10 years.

If DCEU has a problem it's rushing a vision. They can do great things but they need balance and a decisive vision (or rather their
RT is a ratings aggregator. It's like saying I blame reddit for bad news (which some do) yet it's still not the source. Ultimately, if they're mad at their RT score blame the critics or rather blame the direction of these movies or the ones that said we have to play catch up like now to a company that had 3 studios release their movies after almost 10 years.

If DCEU has a problem it's rushing a vision. They can do great things but they need balance and a decisive vision (or rather their own Kevin Feige who admittedly isn't perfect and I don't think Phase 3 will be a cakewalk), be detectives and villains not whatever your movies are.
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1:53AM on 08/03/2016

Shocker!

David Ayers isn't a good director - why is anyone surprised?
What is DC thinking? Let's take a bunch of obscure villain characters and make a movie focusing on them with a crappy director/writer.
So many great characters in the DCU and they just can't seem to get their footing, and I LIKED BvS but I just don't understand some of their decision making.
David Ayers isn't a good director - why is anyone surprised?
What is DC thinking? Let's take a bunch of obscure villain characters and make a movie focusing on them with a crappy director/writer.
So many great characters in the DCU and they just can't seem to get their footing, and I LIKED BvS but I just don't understand some of their decision making.
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9:50AM on 08/03/2016
He made Training Day and End of Watch. Both fantastic movies.
He made Training Day and End of Watch. Both fantastic movies.
9:58AM on 08/03/2016
He also made Fury which is complete garbage and the most recent example of his work. Not a good sign.

I'll have to check those out, thanks!
He also made Fury which is complete garbage and the most recent example of his work. Not a good sign.

I'll have to check those out, thanks!
12:14PM on 08/03/2016
WHAT! Fury was great! Sabotage was the one that made me feel like I had wasted about 2 hours of my life.
WHAT! Fury was great! Sabotage was the one that made me feel like I had wasted about 2 hours of my life.
1:03AM on 08/04/2016
Fury was Avatar level stupid. 150 SS with panzerfaust and no one thinks to use one? Just ONE would destroy a Sherman's crew,
Fury was Avatar level stupid. 150 SS with panzerfaust and no one thinks to use one? Just ONE would destroy a Sherman's crew,
1:38AM on 08/03/2016

The DCCU is DOA

There's not going to be a recovery for this. Sorry for the bad news but it seems the DCCU is DOA in comarison to Marvel. Just look at the score board. DC needs to get away from this disaster of a partial franchise fast and reboot in about 5 years. Start with Batman Beyond , do it right and everyone will come to that party!

PS... Rotten Tomatoes has noting to do with those bad reviews. They got it all wrong.
There's not going to be a recovery for this. Sorry for the bad news but it seems the DCCU is DOA in comarison to Marvel. Just look at the score board. DC needs to get away from this disaster of a partial franchise fast and reboot in about 5 years. Start with Batman Beyond , do it right and everyone will come to that party!

PS... Rotten Tomatoes has noting to do with those bad reviews. They got it all wrong.
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2:32AM on 08/03/2016
I think Wonder Woman will be the final decision for most viewers to turn away after that - or stick with it.
I think the JLA trailer was lame, though. I don't know what to think about the DCCU quite yet. So far, though... I think it's shite. :p
I think Wonder Woman will be the final decision for most viewers to turn away after that - or stick with it.
I think the JLA trailer was lame, though. I don't know what to think about the DCCU quite yet. So far, though... I think it's shite. :p
12:46AM on 08/03/2016
They're starting a petition for censorship? What kind of stupid Ness is that?
They're starting a petition for censorship? What kind of stupid Ness is that?
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11:59PM on 08/02/2016

Actually...

I'm not a DCEU hater or a fanboy...but honestly RottenTomatoes does have *SOME* control. I've seen them label a critics review as "fresh" and they pick out one positive part of the review when if you read the entire review, it's mostly negative. Vice versa applies. RT definitely has a way to sway the freshness score albeit probably not to the degree of saving a 27% rotten rating LOL
I'm not a DCEU hater or a fanboy...but honestly RottenTomatoes does have *SOME* control. I've seen them label a critics review as "fresh" and they pick out one positive part of the review when if you read the entire review, it's mostly negative. Vice versa applies. RT definitely has a way to sway the freshness score albeit probably not to the degree of saving a 27% rotten rating LOL
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11:37PM on 08/02/2016

Haha!

Hahaha!
Hahaha!
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11:33PM on 08/02/2016
Imagine getting your panties in a bunch because a movie is getting critically panned.
Imagine getting your panties in a bunch because a movie is getting critically panned.
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11:24PM on 08/02/2016
People realize that WB owns 30% of Rotten Tomatoes right?
People realize that WB owns 30% of Rotten Tomatoes right?
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11:28PM on 08/02/2016
Pretty sure most people are up to speed on that. So what? A handful of companies own most of the media, including most major Internet properties.
Pretty sure most people are up to speed on that. So what? A handful of companies own most of the media, including most major Internet properties.
12:54AM on 08/03/2016
Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Fandango, were WB has some percentage of Fandango but Universal/Comcast is what has the majority of ownership of Rotten Tomatoes
Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Fandango, were WB has some percentage of Fandango but Universal/Comcast is what has the majority of ownership of Rotten Tomatoes
11:21PM on 08/02/2016
Are all the critics and Rotten Tomatoes getting paid off? Doubt it. Are critics unecesarily harsh on DC properties because they're in love with Marvel cause it kinda took their virginity. I kinda think so. For a little perspective. Independence Day: Resurgence, safe in my view to label a cataclysmic abortion of a film that makes its predecessor worse by comparison is at 32% on RT. No David Ayer movie I have ever watched has even approached it in its awfulness. Haven't seen Suicide Sqaud, but I
Are all the critics and Rotten Tomatoes getting paid off? Doubt it. Are critics unecesarily harsh on DC properties because they're in love with Marvel cause it kinda took their virginity. I kinda think so. For a little perspective. Independence Day: Resurgence, safe in my view to label a cataclysmic abortion of a film that makes its predecessor worse by comparison is at 32% on RT. No David Ayer movie I have ever watched has even approached it in its awfulness. Haven't seen Suicide Sqaud, but I am highly suspect of the RT rating. Particularly when some less than favorable Civil War reviews were rated as fresh. It's probably not a Hydra level conspiracy. But at this point, I think there is definitely something happening other than WB is churning out complete shit.
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10:53PM on 08/02/2016
Didn't Paul Shirley just write an article on this? Good timing. On annother note I honestly question the relevancy of covering this. There will always be stupid people doing stupid things on the internet. I make a point of trying to avoid hearing about it.
Didn't Paul Shirley just write an article on this? Good timing. On annother note I honestly question the relevancy of covering this. There will always be stupid people doing stupid things on the internet. I make a point of trying to avoid hearing about it.
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10:49PM on 08/02/2016
While I think these people are crazy, I can't help but notice that a lot of people seem to base whether they see a movie on what they see on rotten tomatoes, joblo, etc. I can't even fathom to try and count how many times I have seen people on these boards or other sites boards saying they will skip a movie based on what they saw in an article or read in a crappy review. Do I think there is some sort of conspiracy? No, but I do think there are a lot of people that lack the ability to step out
While I think these people are crazy, I can't help but notice that a lot of people seem to base whether they see a movie on what they see on rotten tomatoes, joblo, etc. I can't even fathom to try and count how many times I have seen people on these boards or other sites boards saying they will skip a movie based on what they saw in an article or read in a crappy review. Do I think there is some sort of conspiracy? No, but I do think there are a lot of people that lack the ability to step out of the box and make their own decisions.
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10:47PM on 08/02/2016
"even if it's a really great movies"

So is the message I am supposed to take away here that DC fans are morons?
"even if it's a really great movies"

So is the message I am supposed to take away here that DC fans are morons?
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12:58AM on 08/03/2016
So are you saying that Rotten Tomatoes Critics are the best of the best out there?
If that's true, just explain me how Ghostbusters got a 73% and don't throw at me the Sexist and Subjectivity Card
So are you saying that Rotten Tomatoes Critics are the best of the best out there?
If that's true, just explain me how Ghostbusters got a 73% and don't throw at me the Sexist and Subjectivity Card
2:30AM on 08/03/2016
I can't explain how BRIDESMAIDS got 90% and SPY got 94% fresh on their reviews.
I don't think the sexist card thing has much to do with it. For a Paul Feig movie, it's a pretty low rating.
I can't explain how BRIDESMAIDS got 90% and SPY got 94% fresh on their reviews.
I don't think the sexist card thing has much to do with it. For a Paul Feig movie, it's a pretty low rating.
10:38PM on 08/02/2016
There are people who hate the movie you like or you hate the movie they like anyway. Reviews are just reviews. Go out and watch the movie for yourself. That's it.
There are people who hate the movie you like or you hate the movie they like anyway. Reviews are just reviews. Go out and watch the movie for yourself. That's it.
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1:59AM on 08/03/2016
Exactly. There are a ton of movies I love that are critically panned and are just bad (PPZ I thought was funny and introduced me to the BBC version which matched it surprisingly well.. minus zombie killings). Guess what, to each their own
Exactly. There are a ton of movies I love that are critically panned and are just bad (PPZ I thought was funny and introduced me to the BBC version which matched it surprisingly well.. minus zombie killings). Guess what, to each their own
5:21AM on 08/03/2016
Haha, exactly! I mean, I love all those silly Puppet Masters (Full Moonversion) horro movies and critics hate them but I love them anyway.
Haha, exactly! I mean, I love all those silly Puppet Masters (Full Moonversion) horro movies and critics hate them but I love them anyway.
10:31PM on 08/02/2016
I am a fan of MOS & BVS, but this is fucking exhausting.
I am a fan of MOS & BVS, but this is fucking exhausting.
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10:30PM on 08/02/2016
I don't care about reviews, I really enjoyed BvS and MoS (by the way MoS got almost 60%), and a lot of other movies that got 30% or 40%. Anyway, I was reading SS reviews there and I find reviews from critics that rate this movie 3/5 or 2.5/4 and are considered "rotten". That's weird. It's true that DC didn't make their "great movie" yet, but half of MARVEL movies are not that great and apparently those critics loved them. With movies like Ultron, Thor 1 & 2, in the 70% range it's a little bit
I don't care about reviews, I really enjoyed BvS and MoS (by the way MoS got almost 60%), and a lot of other movies that got 30% or 40%. Anyway, I was reading SS reviews there and I find reviews from critics that rate this movie 3/5 or 2.5/4 and are considered "rotten". That's weird. It's true that DC didn't make their "great movie" yet, but half of MARVEL movies are not that great and apparently those critics loved them. With movies like Ultron, Thor 1 & 2, in the 70% range it's a little bit harsh to accept a 30% for BvS.
Aside from the "MARVEL vs DC" war, I tend to think that most of the critics are a little bit "in love" with Disney. The force awakens at 92%, Finding Dory at 94%... is also way too much! lol
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3:26AM on 08/03/2016
Finding Dory is fucking lovely!
Finding Dory is fucking lovely!
12:49PM on 08/03/2016
Exactly! DC folks aren't morons, we can just see that "something ain't right". I can't accept the 30% either.
Exactly! DC folks aren't morons, we can just see that "something ain't right". I can't accept the 30% either.
10:22PM on 08/02/2016

Whoa - are we saying rotten tomatoes is above corruption?

Remember when we all thought IMDB was above corruption... ? Ya and nope. It makes no sense that lack lustre efforts like Iron man 2 and 3, and especially the almost comically unserious (and nothing like the actual comic series) CIVIL WAR... bails on the intensity and major death within the plot line and still gets crazy positive reviews while most fans I know were rather unimpressed and said things like "Just more of the same" and yet now 3 major DC movies have been blasted... instantly... but
Remember when we all thought IMDB was above corruption... ? Ya and nope. It makes no sense that lack lustre efforts like Iron man 2 and 3, and especially the almost comically unserious (and nothing like the actual comic series) CIVIL WAR... bails on the intensity and major death within the plot line and still gets crazy positive reviews while most fans I know were rather unimpressed and said things like "Just more of the same" and yet now 3 major DC movies have been blasted... instantly... but major review sites... if you think that rotten tomatoes is above a payoff to filter results you are ridiculous. It is getting to a point where it is becoming painfully evident that some deck has been stacked against DC. Was BvS perfect no.... was it a better made, shot, and more ballsy than most Marvel options - YES!. I am all over this petition... I remember the forbes review where the guy was basically - what the hell is going on... BvS is actually a pretty awesome, flawed, but totally engrossing film. Well that review was buried. You think Marvel/Disney is against greasing some palms? Come on. Not to mention you fine folks here on joblo... have been giving a whole lot of 9s to marvel films that really have been less than stellar for a while... and basically a redo of the previous film every time out. Oh but in this one they get angrier hahaha SIGN THIS PETITION. Let the marvel backlash begin.
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10:30PM on 08/02/2016
Your opinions are just that: Opinions. If they're different from the consensus, it has to do more with you than the rest of the world. You said that you have friends who are fans, but they're not a worldwide majority either.
Your opinions are just that: Opinions. If they're different from the consensus, it has to do more with you than the rest of the world. You said that you have friends who are fans, but they're not a worldwide majority either.
10:35PM on 08/02/2016
Hey idiot, Rotten Tomatoes is partially owned by WB. So even if they WEREN'T an aggregate, which they are, they'd be going the other way and ensuring DC movies get good reviews.
Hey idiot, Rotten Tomatoes is partially owned by WB. So even if they WEREN'T an aggregate, which they are, they'd be going the other way and ensuring DC movies get good reviews.
1:33AM on 08/03/2016
This makes no sense: " CIVIL WAR... bails on the intensity and major death within the plot line" The only character that died in the civil war comic was Goliath and hes a no show in the MCU. If your trying to mention Captain America , he died after Civil War. Get your fake facts right sheesh!
This makes no sense: " CIVIL WAR... bails on the intensity and major death within the plot line" The only character that died in the civil war comic was Goliath and hes a no show in the MCU. If your trying to mention Captain America , he died after Civil War. Get your fake facts right sheesh!
12:37PM on 08/03/2016
I have to agree with you. There are poorly written, edited, acted, and shot movies out there with much higher ratings than DC properties as of late. I saw Civil War once in the theater. It was okay. Honestly, I'm just tired of the formula. I liked that DC was going with the Fight Club ambiance and the movie is beautifully produced. The dialogue is higher caliber (you might need at least a high school education to get the parallels the movie was drawing), the stakes are much higher, and the
I have to agree with you. There are poorly written, edited, acted, and shot movies out there with much higher ratings than DC properties as of late. I saw Civil War once in the theater. It was okay. Honestly, I'm just tired of the formula. I liked that DC was going with the Fight Club ambiance and the movie is beautifully produced. The dialogue is higher caliber (you might need at least a high school education to get the parallels the movie was drawing), the stakes are much higher, and the movie treats the audience with respect.
I consider this massive dump that critics have taken on DC as form of censorship. Had critics not attacked BvS with impunity, there's a possibility that David Ayer would not have had to compromise his vision for the execs who attempted to please the critics. Ghostbusters was not a good movie. I laughed. It had cool effects...whatever. But, it wasn't a Ghostbusters movie. It felt more like parody of Ghostbusters. It didn't feel genuine. But, it got a pass with critics? Was that because they liked it or because they didn't want bad press for downgrading a movie with four women in the cast?
This may effect the bottom line when it comes to finances for Suicide Squad. Next thing you know, they start screwing with WW or Justice League (if you already can't tell by the out-of-place tone in the preview) and impacting the vision of the creators. That is censorship. Critics are going overboard with their hate of certain properties and holding back their vitriol for other properties. Its all a mess. So, as a fan, I signed the petition; not because I want Rotten Tomatoes to disappear, but mostly because I truly believe there is some unfair treatment of DC properties and I feel strong enough to add my voice.
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10:14PM on 08/02/2016

Unfortunately, this isn't a first.

People were allowed to post comments under each review on the R.T. page. When Christy Lemire gave a rotten review (she said it was average, not bad) to THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, she got a lot of hate comments. The comments feature were disabled after that. I hope this new petition won't have the same influence. By the way, plenty of DC movies have received a good consensus (including the one I just mentioned), so there's no bias. How could these people know if there is? They haven't even seen S.S.
People were allowed to post comments under each review on the R.T. page. When Christy Lemire gave a rotten review (she said it was average, not bad) to THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, she got a lot of hate comments. The comments feature were disabled after that. I hope this new petition won't have the same influence. By the way, plenty of DC movies have received a good consensus (including the one I just mentioned), so there's no bias. How could these people know if there is? They haven't even seen S.S. yet! Not to mention that they used the word "Always" and then named 2 movies.

To answer your question at the bottom, I gave a 9/10 to the following badly-reviewed movies: BIRTH; DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR?; JIMMY & JUDY; KUNG POW; LABOR DAY; LESBIAN VAMPIRE KILLERS; SHE'S FUNNY THAT WAY; THE VILLAGE.
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9:55PM on 08/02/2016
If the movie sucks balls then the people who cut the trailers deserve an oscar.
If the movie sucks balls then the people who cut the trailers deserve an oscar.
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11:07PM on 08/02/2016
I mostly blame the excellent music (does Wayne's World deserve an honorary mention here? I guess I just did). But I've been pumped for every new piece of marketing thanks to these trailers.
I mostly blame the excellent music (does Wayne's World deserve an honorary mention here? I guess I just did). But I've been pumped for every new piece of marketing thanks to these trailers.
9:55PM on 08/02/2016

The best part about all of this?

Rotten Tomatoes is a division of Warner Bros.
Rotten Tomatoes is a division of Warner Bros.
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2:05AM on 08/03/2016
Well... RT is owned by Fandango Media which is co-owned by Warner Bros. (30%) and NBCUniversal (70%). Either way, I don't think their respective studio influence is going to sway a movie's rating. Ultimately, that power lies in the critics' hands. The real issue plaguing Hollywood are that there are so many choices and theater prices being what they are will sway what will and will not sell.
Well... RT is owned by Fandango Media which is co-owned by Warner Bros. (30%) and NBCUniversal (70%). Either way, I don't think their respective studio influence is going to sway a movie's rating. Ultimately, that power lies in the critics' hands. The real issue plaguing Hollywood are that there are so many choices and theater prices being what they are will sway what will and will not sell.
9:49PM on 08/02/2016
I can see why these people would be upset, but I'm not going to let these critics who I will never meet in my lifetime affect my opinion on something I'm so sure and positive about.

After Man of Steel, and Dawn of Justice, I feel like people should know what to expect by now from DC. It'll be interesting to read the reviews for Wonder Woman, Justice League, and definitely for Aquaman.
I can see why these people would be upset, but I'm not going to let these critics who I will never meet in my lifetime affect my opinion on something I'm so sure and positive about.

After Man of Steel, and Dawn of Justice, I feel like people should know what to expect by now from DC. It'll be interesting to read the reviews for Wonder Woman, Justice League, and definitely for Aquaman.
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11:10PM on 08/02/2016
I dunno. It's David Ayers, so I was actually expecting a good movie, and not just an okay one.
I dunno. It's David Ayers, so I was actually expecting a good movie, and not just an okay one.
9:43PM on 08/02/2016
Just when I think the human race has hit rock bottom, someone finds a way to dig deeper.
Just when I think the human race has hit rock bottom, someone finds a way to dig deeper.
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9:50PM on 08/02/2016
It's starting to turn into Idiocracy.
It's starting to turn into Idiocracy.
10:19PM on 08/02/2016
We're already there.
We're already there.
9:32PM on 08/02/2016

Bunch of babies

The movie looks like shit, what did they expect? All the bad reviews are pretty much the same, and is not surprising to me in the slightest. The movie looked like a 4-5 out of 10 just based on trailers and behind the scenes promos.

The critics loved Nolan's Batman Trilogy so I don't think it's a conspiracy against DC.
The movie looks like shit, what did they expect? All the bad reviews are pretty much the same, and is not surprising to me in the slightest. The movie looked like a 4-5 out of 10 just based on trailers and behind the scenes promos.

The critics loved Nolan's Batman Trilogy so I don't think it's a conspiracy against DC.
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11:12PM on 08/02/2016
Huh, I thought the movie looked like a 6-7 out of 10 at least.
Huh, I thought the movie looked like a 6-7 out of 10 at least.
9:26PM on 08/02/2016
These entitled little shits need to be punched in the genitals repeatedly. Who the fuck do they think they are? If reviewers think your favorite movie is rotten then just get over it.
These entitled little shits need to be punched in the genitals repeatedly. Who the fuck do they think they are? If reviewers think your favorite movie is rotten then just get over it.
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