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Human Centipede 2 gets completely banned in the UK

06.07.2011

If you're in the UK and were looking forward to seeing the next demented chapter in the HUMAN CENTIPEDE series, you're out of luck. The film has been completely banned by the British Board of Film Classification due to the fact that it's "sexually violent and potentially obscene." This means that the movie can not be distributed in theaters or sold on DVD ANYwhere in the UK.

You can find a full rundown of what the BBFC had to say about the film here, and it contains many, many graphic spoilers. Director Tom Six personally responded to the ruling, and wasn't too pleased with the verdict or their write-up:

“Thank you BBFC for putting spoilers of my movie on your website and thank you for banning my film in this exceptional way. Apparently I made an horrific horror-film, but shouldn't a good horror film be horrific? My dear people it is a f****cking MOVIE. It is all fictional. Not real. It is all make-belief. It is art. Give people their own choice to watch it or not. If people can't handle or like my movies they just don't watch them. If people like my movies they have to be able to see it any time, anywhere also in the UK.”

Yeah, I don't really see why this film was literally made illegal. Yes, it contains twisted stuff, but again, it IS all fictional. It's not an actual snuff film and nothing illegal is actually taking place here. Are we going to ban every film that ever featured a rape and murder? HUMAN CENTIPEDE might be the extreme example of such a concept, but I don't think you can completely ban something just because it churns your stomach. And really, all it means is that people will now have to torrent the film instead if they really want to see it.

What are your thoughts on this? Should a fictional movie ever be outright banned? 

Extra Tidbit: For the record, it is hard to think of a more messed up movie than the original. I don't think it was particularly good, but for shock value alone it did its job.
Source: Empire

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2:41PM on 06/08/2011

Lame

I personally thought that we as a society were past this point where we had to outright ban movies from public consumption because of content. It's back to the era of the "video nasties" once again. If a person doesn't wish to see a movie such as this, then don't go see it. But there are plenty of people who do, and they shouldn't be deprived of their opportunity to see it. It's only a movie, not based on fact. That's why I can watch stuff like this and forget about them right away. It's
I personally thought that we as a society were past this point where we had to outright ban movies from public consumption because of content. It's back to the era of the "video nasties" once again. If a person doesn't wish to see a movie such as this, then don't go see it. But there are plenty of people who do, and they shouldn't be deprived of their opportunity to see it. It's only a movie, not based on fact. That's why I can watch stuff like this and forget about them right away. It's the real life stuff that takes much longer to shake off. Besides, movies like these to me are much closer to dark comedies than horror movies anyway, because they are just trying to push the boundaries as far as they possibly can. I feel the same way about A Serbian Film. That movie was so over the top, I almost started laughing at a couple of parts. You don't have to try that hard to make a scary movie, and you don't have to show everything either. The more you show, the less effective it becomes, and the more over the top the movie gets. Use your special effects sparingly, have an interesting premise to start with, and go from there. That's why all the great classic films started with a good story and built themselves from there, not trying to outgross the last movie that came before them.
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10:54AM on 06/08/2011

BANNED IN THE UK!

i can see the commercials now. dont think they wont use this as a selling pointer elsewheee. and british ppl will still see this if they want to by either ordering the dvd online or finding a download.
i can see the commercials now. dont think they wont use this as a selling pointer elsewheee. and british ppl will still see this if they want to by either ordering the dvd online or finding a download.
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9:58AM on 06/08/2011
I can't believe we are going to fight a censorship battle over a third rate torture porn movie made by a talentless unimaginative hack. Besides, anyone that really wants to see this crapfest can find numerous ways to see it. I am all for letting the public choose, it's just that some of the public make, in my opinion, really stupid
choices.
I can't believe we are going to fight a censorship battle over a third rate torture porn movie made by a talentless unimaginative hack. Besides, anyone that really wants to see this crapfest can find numerous ways to see it. I am all for letting the public choose, it's just that some of the public make, in my opinion, really stupid
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7:37AM on 06/08/2011
The BBFC has no right, as Six said, let the audience be the critic; if they hate it and think is is horrible to watch, the word will spread-people don't watch bad movies when that all you here from word of mouth. However if it is 'good', well then give people the option of seeing it.


Way to be the new SS BBFC!
The BBFC has no right, as Six said, let the audience be the critic; if they hate it and think is is horrible to watch, the word will spread-people don't watch bad movies when that all you here from word of mouth. However if it is 'good', well then give people the option of seeing it.


Way to be the new SS BBFC!
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2:18AM on 06/08/2011
you have to be one sick individual to think up a movie like this....and even sicker to want to watch it. How would anyone find that entertaining or even consider it art?
you have to be one sick individual to think up a movie like this....and even sicker to want to watch it. How would anyone find that entertaining or even consider it art?
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6:00AM on 06/08/2011
Yeah, he's a real sicko. There's one scene where a woman is raped by a tree and another where a 8yo brutally stabs his sister to death-- Oh, wait, those scenes from Sam Raimi and John Carpenter's films.

Just because Six isn't as skillful as these masters doesn't mean his works should be banned.
Yeah, he's a real sicko. There's one scene where a woman is raped by a tree and another where a 8yo brutally stabs his sister to death-- Oh, wait, those scenes from Sam Raimi and John Carpenter's films.

Just because Six isn't as skillful as these masters doesn't mean his works should be banned.
1:05AM on 06/08/2011
Well great. They go and ban the ONE movie nobody wants to see anyway :vomit:

But why in the UK? I mean, if the emphasis is really on the sexual here...isn't that America's territory, what with the violence loving puritans in the MPAA?
Well great. They go and ban the ONE movie nobody wants to see anyway :vomit:

But why in the UK? I mean, if the emphasis is really on the sexual here...isn't that America's territory, what with the violence loving puritans in the MPAA?
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6:01AM on 06/08/2011
As fucked up as some of the MPAA decisions are, it's completely voluntary. You can release your film unrated in the US.
As fucked up as some of the MPAA decisions are, it's completely voluntary. You can release your film unrated in the US.
12:16AM on 06/08/2011
The first movie sucked, Tom Six sucks, and this is way more publicity than this movie deserves, which is the real reason that it shouldn't be happening.
The first movie sucked, Tom Six sucks, and this is way more publicity than this movie deserves, which is the real reason that it shouldn't be happening.
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11:12PM on 06/07/2011
Is there someone wrong with me when hearing this news makes me want to see it even more? This news is a good sign that Six topped the original in terms of its disturbance level. I am absolutely pumped for this now.
Is there someone wrong with me when hearing this news makes me want to see it even more? This news is a good sign that Six topped the original in terms of its disturbance level. I am absolutely pumped for this now.
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9:48PM on 06/07/2011
people should have to choose, wars and revolutions have been fought over losing the right to choose.
people should have to choose, wars and revolutions have been fought over losing the right to choose.
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8:12PM on 06/07/2011

I love everything about this

If you actually wanted to see this you are a clown and I don't like you.
If you actually wanted to see this you are a clown and I don't like you.
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8:00PM on 06/07/2011

I think some of you guys should research just exactly what defines

Including Tom Six. Fiction is not grounds for dismissing obscenity. It is in fact, a subjective decision. If it is of purient interest, and deemed lacking in artistic value - it can be rulled obscene. Again - it's a subjective decision, and there are gray areas - but most ruling are based on extreme examples. As for Captain Planet's poorly considered statement: "Nothing simulated should ever be illegal. That is the same thing as banning thought"

Using that argument, one could make and
Including Tom Six. Fiction is not grounds for dismissing obscenity. It is in fact, a subjective decision. If it is of purient interest, and deemed lacking in artistic value - it can be rulled obscene. Again - it's a subjective decision, and there are gray areas - but most ruling are based on extreme examples. As for Captain Planet's poorly considered statement: "Nothing simulated should ever be illegal. That is the same thing as banning thought"

Using that argument, one could make and distribution violent kiddie torture and porn, as long as the actors were of age, and the torture was simulated. The obscenity laws of most free nations do not agree with Captain Planet, and neither would I. The fact that this is news-worthy speaks to how infrequently these laws and bans are applied. There are much more pressing and worthwhile causes in the area of civil rights and free speech to pick up, than defending Human Centipede 2.
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2:45AM on 06/08/2011
When I said "nothing simulated should ever be illegal," I thought "featuring consenting adults" was implicit to a the average human being. Forgot who I was dealing with here. And what of the movie "Kick-Ass" - I suppose you want to have that banned over Hit Girl. And why not ban Schindler's List, that shows kids being tortured and murdered. Then ban Taxi Driver - that depicted 13yo Jodie Foster going down on Harvey Keitel - nevermind they used her 18yo sister as a body double to shoot the
When I said "nothing simulated should ever be illegal," I thought "featuring consenting adults" was implicit to a the average human being. Forgot who I was dealing with here. And what of the movie "Kick-Ass" - I suppose you want to have that banned over Hit Girl. And why not ban Schindler's List, that shows kids being tortured and murdered. Then ban Taxi Driver - that depicted 13yo Jodie Foster going down on Harvey Keitel - nevermind they used her 18yo sister as a body double to shoot the scene, in smooveluv's world this is obscenity. Also ban American Beauty; Thora Birch was only 16 when she did her topless scene. That's not even simulated. Oh my God, run for the hills!!
8:58AM on 06/08/2011
Your statement was strongly made, without a hint of some implicit point. You've now drawn a line in the sand - I could easily turn around and say that your line is somehow impinging on free speech.

Don't presume to know my taste in movies.

Again, you've come out beating your chest, without actually reading what you are responding to. If the piece in question is deemed as having artistic merit, then obscenity is not applicable. The people who are in the position to make the decision -
Your statement was strongly made, without a hint of some implicit point. You've now drawn a line in the sand - I could easily turn around and say that your line is somehow impinging on free speech.

Don't presume to know my taste in movies.

Again, you've come out beating your chest, without actually reading what you are responding to. If the piece in question is deemed as having artistic merit, then obscenity is not applicable. The people who are in the position to make the decision - not you, and not me - deemed this lacking in sufficient artistic merit to withstand the claim of obscenity. I'm pointing out legal issues, and you're screaming about people having boners about this movie and that. Why don't you settle down and try to learn something, instead of white-knuckling your own sense of being right 100% of the time.
9:26AM on 06/08/2011
"The people who are in the position to make the decision - not you, and not me - deemed this lacking in sufficient artistic merit to withstand the claim of obscenity". Bravo. Bravo. You've illustrated the problem with censorship in one coherent sentence. This film was deemed indecent by - not you. not I - BUT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF GREAT BRITAIN. Who are they to decide for me and you what's obscene and what's art? Are they better than you or me? It should be up to the individual to watch and
"The people who are in the position to make the decision - not you, and not me - deemed this lacking in sufficient artistic merit to withstand the claim of obscenity". Bravo. Bravo. You've illustrated the problem with censorship in one coherent sentence. This film was deemed indecent by - not you. not I - BUT BY THE GOVERNMENT OF GREAT BRITAIN. Who are they to decide for me and you what's obscene and what's art? Are they better than you or me? It should be up to the individual to watch and decide whether something is obscenity or art. NOT THE GOVERNMENT. That is why this film will never be banned in the USA. Guaranteed.
9:40AM on 06/08/2011
I'm not suggesting that it would be verbotten in the US, or that it should be. I'm not suggesting that the UK government is better than you or me, at determining obscenity rulings, delivering the mail or anything else. My intention was to point out the basis for the ruling, and that people seem to misunderstand the basis around which obscenity rulings are made. I quoted you because your statement was a clear indication that you believed that anything fictional should be overrule obscenity.
I'm not suggesting that it would be verbotten in the US, or that it should be. I'm not suggesting that the UK government is better than you or me, at determining obscenity rulings, delivering the mail or anything else. My intention was to point out the basis for the ruling, and that people seem to misunderstand the basis around which obscenity rulings are made. I quoted you because your statement was a clear indication that you believed that anything fictional should be overrule obscenity. A common argument on this topic, and I picked yours as it was concise and without disclaimer. You took it upon yourself to read into that some type of personal affront, and have been clanging your breastplate ever since. You also conveniently retconned your own disclaimer into your statement, saying essentially "well I didn't mean EVERYTHING." So you have your own subjective limits as well. Bravo right back at you.

Bro, you can be as fresh and sassy and confrontational with me as you want, but I'm still doubting you understand the point I'm making. My point was that fiction is not the basis for overruling obscenity. And then I pointed out what was. I'll wait for your inevitable assault on my ability to make a clear point. Its already clear that in your universe, you're never wrong. It's also clear that you mistake disagreements for some personal attack on your character. You'll enjoy life a lot more if you figure out how to disabuse yourself of that notion. Until then, my sincerest apologies for quoting you - I'll just skip over your contributions in the future.
12:45PM on 06/08/2011
I wasn't gonna reply, but then you re-edited to add a whole essay full of bullshit.

Bottom line is you support the censorship of films that simulate torture and I don't. If you had your way films like Saw and Hostel would be banned and made commercially unfeasible. Nice try with the 'we're cut of the same cloth' crap.
I wasn't gonna reply, but then you re-edited to add a whole essay full of bullshit.

Bottom line is you support the censorship of films that simulate torture and I don't. If you had your way films like Saw and Hostel would be banned and made commercially unfeasible. Nice try with the 'we're cut of the same cloth' crap.
1:54PM on 06/08/2011
You can say what I support and what I don't - but you are responding to something that is outside what I originally wrote. Let me dumb it down a shade so you can follow, boy. ***Fiction is not grounds for dismissing obscenity. *** That was the point - end of story. What I like or don't like is none of your concern, though it's amusing that you're spending time trying to piece that together. I don't think we're cut form the same cloth. You're clearly over emotional, and looking for some
You can say what I support and what I don't - but you are responding to something that is outside what I originally wrote. Let me dumb it down a shade so you can follow, boy. ***Fiction is not grounds for dismissing obscenity. *** That was the point - end of story. What I like or don't like is none of your concern, though it's amusing that you're spending time trying to piece that together. I don't think we're cut form the same cloth. You're clearly over emotional, and looking for some knuckle dragging fight. On the internet. Cheers to you bro.
2:49PM on 06/08/2011
Yet you are wrong - even the vilest, sickest pieces of fiction cannot be made illegal in America anymore. It can in England clearly - but I think that's wrong - you think it's right. That's clear from your original post. You support the banning of Human Centipede 2 on the grounds of obscenity, even though it's fiction. 75% of your arguments just attack the way I make my point instead of addressing my points and then you play the victim. It's like Sarah Palin got a Joblo account. Again, I
Yet you are wrong - even the vilest, sickest pieces of fiction cannot be made illegal in America anymore. It can in England clearly - but I think that's wrong - you think it's right. That's clear from your original post. You support the banning of Human Centipede 2 on the grounds of obscenity, even though it's fiction. 75% of your arguments just attack the way I make my point instead of addressing my points and then you play the victim. It's like Sarah Palin got a Joblo account. Again, I challenge you to name a fictional film that is currently illegal in America.
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6:33PM on 06/07/2011

Who cares?

Meh, the first movie was complete shit anyways. Other than the initial moments where you absorb the whole "ass to mouth" roles of number 2 & 3 in the thing there was little about the film that is worth wasting brain cells on. I'm betting this one is even more of a waste of time/film/money.
Meh, the first movie was complete shit anyways. Other than the initial moments where you absorb the whole "ass to mouth" roles of number 2 & 3 in the thing there was little about the film that is worth wasting brain cells on. I'm betting this one is even more of a waste of time/film/money.
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3:52PM on 06/07/2011
A write up on the movie I read says it puts the first one to shame in terms of gore and torture. The 2nd one is more of a sex torture thing with scenes of defecation in the mouth, and a man masterbating with sandpaper. Ill definately be passing on this pile of garbage.
A write up on the movie I read says it puts the first one to shame in terms of gore and torture. The 2nd one is more of a sex torture thing with scenes of defecation in the mouth, and a man masterbating with sandpaper. Ill definately be passing on this pile of garbage.
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2:42PM on 06/07/2011
Damn shame really, im in the u.k and really want this movie, the original was brilliant and a good example of original and shocking filmmaking, the second sounds insane and excitiing, this is hardcore stuff we need!! One way or another I WILL get my hands on a copy of this and make sure everyone see's it! Cant wait.
Damn shame really, im in the u.k and really want this movie, the original was brilliant and a good example of original and shocking filmmaking, the second sounds insane and excitiing, this is hardcore stuff we need!! One way or another I WILL get my hands on a copy of this and make sure everyone see's it! Cant wait.
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2:35PM on 06/07/2011

lol

I think I can live without seeing this paticular piece sh... I mean art.
I think I can live without seeing this paticular piece sh... I mean art.
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2:04PM on 06/07/2011

I thought we were past this...

I also thought these people were against movie piracy/illegal downloading- in this case they are doing their best to encourage it by making it the only way to see the movie!
I also thought these people were against movie piracy/illegal downloading- in this case they are doing their best to encourage it by making it the only way to see the movie!
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1:55PM on 06/07/2011
"For the record, it is hard to think of a more messed up movie than the original. I don't think it was particularly good, but for shock value alone it did its job."

Come on, that was kiddie stuff. Try watching Irreversible. Now that's a disturbing movie.
"For the record, it is hard to think of a more messed up movie than the original. I don't think it was particularly good, but for shock value alone it did its job."

Come on, that was kiddie stuff. Try watching Irreversible. Now that's a disturbing movie.
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1:54PM on 06/07/2011
I wrote a wordy response to this, then my browser lost it, so you'll have to make do with a quick recap.
BBFC can ban home format releases, and fair enough - there's no real way to control who'll end up watching it, and impressionable young minds probably shouldn't be watching this film.
However, the BBFC can only recommend a cinematic ban, and it's up to local councils to decide what films can be shown in their region of the UK. I live in Leicester, and our local council allowed the first
I wrote a wordy response to this, then my browser lost it, so you'll have to make do with a quick recap.
BBFC can ban home format releases, and fair enough - there's no real way to control who'll end up watching it, and impressionable young minds probably shouldn't be watching this film.
However, the BBFC can only recommend a cinematic ban, and it's up to local councils to decide what films can be shown in their region of the UK. I live in Leicester, and our local council allowed the first ever UK screening of several 'banned' films (Wes Craven's Last House On The Left springs to mind).
It's much easier to control who watches a film in a cinema, so there's a degree to which I support this system, despite generally being opposed to censorship.
I'm also aware that if anyone in the UK really wants to see this film, they'll find a way.
My (edited) two cents/pence, anyway.
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7:10PM on 06/07/2011
YES LEICESTER!

That's my far too over-excited way of saying I'm from there also.
YES LEICESTER!

That's my far too over-excited way of saying I'm from there also.
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1:43PM on 06/07/2011
Good review on the BBFC website well worth a read.
Good review on the BBFC website well worth a read.
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1:41PM on 06/07/2011

It demands some debate and discussion

but I kind of like that one country out there took one look at this movie and went, "Ya know what? ...No. No. We're not having this crap. Call us fascist, whatever you want; at least we won't have that garbage on our shelves. Hell with it."
but I kind of like that one country out there took one look at this movie and went, "Ya know what? ...No. No. We're not having this crap. Call us fascist, whatever you want; at least we won't have that garbage on our shelves. Hell with it."
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4:42PM on 06/07/2011
because we all need our governments to step in and tell us what we can and cannot watch? poor taste or not - i'd rather have freedom.
because we all need our governments to step in and tell us what we can and cannot watch? poor taste or not - i'd rather have freedom.
5:13PM on 06/07/2011
No, but I can't help that I happen to agree on the one film they single out. And no one's saying they can't watch it; they just won't allow it to draw revenue in their country. Rock on.
No, but I can't help that I happen to agree on the one film they single out. And no one's saying they can't watch it; they just won't allow it to draw revenue in their country. Rock on.
2:16AM on 06/08/2011
You ever hear the phrase "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it?" Obviously not.

And yes, they are saying you can't watch it, unless you're telling me that the UK government is encouraging piracy.
You ever hear the phrase "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it?" Obviously not.

And yes, they are saying you can't watch it, unless you're telling me that the UK government is encouraging piracy.
10:39AM on 06/08/2011
lol SICK BURN, man! And no, they're not, unless you're too stupid to consider ordering it from a foreign online retailer. They're banning domestic revenue, not their right to view the movie.
lol SICK BURN, man! And no, they're not, unless you're too stupid to consider ordering it from a foreign online retailer. They're banning domestic revenue, not their right to view the movie.
1:29PM on 06/07/2011
So yeah I would never watch it because these torture porn films are getting ridiculous, but man the fucking mpaa and UK censorship just needs to stop biased political bullshit.
So yeah I would never watch it because these torture porn films are getting ridiculous, but man the fucking mpaa and UK censorship just needs to stop biased political bullshit.
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1:28PM on 06/07/2011

Weird...

I think it is a good for the publicity of this little movie. Where it is not banned, everyone should go see it just to see WHY it was banned in UK. Didn't Cannibal Apocalypse and Freaks get banned in the states for some time because of all the gnarly stuff that happened? Freaks didn't seem too bad in todays terms but GOD!?!?! Cannibal Apocalypse made me stop eating my lunch during the turtle scene
I think it is a good for the publicity of this little movie. Where it is not banned, everyone should go see it just to see WHY it was banned in UK. Didn't Cannibal Apocalypse and Freaks get banned in the states for some time because of all the gnarly stuff that happened? Freaks didn't seem too bad in todays terms but GOD!?!?! Cannibal Apocalypse made me stop eating my lunch during the turtle scene
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1:24PM on 06/07/2011
United Kingdom is communist? Only commies and fascists support censorship!
United Kingdom is communist? Only commies and fascists support censorship!
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6:15PM on 06/07/2011
And what's that "beep" called whenever the "f-word" is used...
And what's that "beep" called whenever the "f-word" is used...
1:20PM on 06/07/2011
i don't like that he used the word "art" in his statement. that offends me.
i don't like that he used the word "art" in his statement. that offends me.
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1:09PM on 06/07/2011

Um...

Saw(s), Hostel, Man Bites Dog, Antichrist, Devils Rejects. Any of these banned? Ratings and Censorship are both jokes conceptually; both are biased and politically driven.
Saw(s), Hostel, Man Bites Dog, Antichrist, Devils Rejects. Any of these banned? Ratings and Censorship are both jokes conceptually; both are biased and politically driven.
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1:08PM on 06/07/2011
agree with what he said said, except throwing the word art to describe his movie, it's just a sequel to entertain the fans thats it
agree with what he said said, except throwing the word art to describe his movie, it's just a sequel to entertain the fans thats it
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12:58PM on 06/07/2011
Oh it will be seen legally in the UK...20 30 years from now. Isnt that how it usually goes for banned movies in the UK?
Oh it will be seen legally in the UK...20 30 years from now. Isnt that how it usually goes for banned movies in the UK?
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12:50PM on 06/07/2011

"...but I don't think you can completely ban something just because it churns your stomach."

If that was true...then the world would've been well rid of Uwe Boll, The Twilight Saga, American Idol & anything involving Brett Ratner! I know there are hundreds more that i'm leaving out, but.

All in all, Fuck the British Board of Film Classification!
People should have the CHOICE to see what they choose.
If that was true...then the world would've been well rid of Uwe Boll, The Twilight Saga, American Idol & anything involving Brett Ratner! I know there are hundreds more that i'm leaving out, but.

All in all, Fuck the British Board of Film Classification!
People should have the CHOICE to see what they choose.
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12:44PM on 06/07/2011

its a joke

Human Centipede 2 banned, but Couples seeking Teens 4 and Offical Perverts 4 both get a Restricted 18 cert.
Human Centipede 2 banned, but Couples seeking Teens 4 and Offical Perverts 4 both get a Restricted 18 cert.
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12:40PM on 06/07/2011

The saw series is ok?

The Saw franchise and many other horror flicks have people being tortured to death in them but they aren't banned. I'm not sure how they can fly but HC cannot. It's all make believe, for gods sake they probably didn't even use real poop in the film. I'm not sure how a sexual sadist with a poop fetish is worse than a killer torturing his victims to death like in Saw.
The Saw franchise and many other horror flicks have people being tortured to death in them but they aren't banned. I'm not sure how they can fly but HC cannot. It's all make believe, for gods sake they probably didn't even use real poop in the film. I'm not sure how a sexual sadist with a poop fetish is worse than a killer torturing his victims to death like in Saw.
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12:36PM on 06/07/2011
All of you hypocrites bathing Tom Six with buckets of your hateful cum would spring instant boners at the mention of John Carpenter or Sam Raimi. But you forget that in the infancy of their careers they too were name-called as "pornographers of violence" and creators of "video nasties".

Nothing simulated should ever be illegal. That is the same thing as banning thought.
All of you hypocrites bathing Tom Six with buckets of your hateful cum would spring instant boners at the mention of John Carpenter or Sam Raimi. But you forget that in the infancy of their careers they too were name-called as "pornographers of violence" and creators of "video nasties".

Nothing simulated should ever be illegal. That is the same thing as banning thought.
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12:17PM on 06/07/2011

missing the point

the content of the film is irrelevant - people should have a right to watch whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate any laws. and to make comments like 'tom six can't call his films art' is absurd and elitist. i could say the same thing about most of the hollywood fluff that comes out.
the content of the film is irrelevant - people should have a right to watch whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate any laws. and to make comments like 'tom six can't call his films art' is absurd and elitist. i could say the same thing about most of the hollywood fluff that comes out.
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12:28PM on 06/07/2011
+1.

Larry Flynt: "If the First Amendment will protect a scumbag like me, then it will protect all of you. Because I'm the worst."
+1.

Larry Flynt: "If the First Amendment will protect a scumbag like me, then it will protect all of you. Because I'm the worst."
12:09PM on 06/07/2011

Not a fan of censorship, but...

you should all take a look at the BBFC's review. Here's an excerpt:

"Unlike the first film, the sequel presents graphic images of sexual violence, forced defecation, and mutilation, and the viewer is invited to witness events from the perspective of the protagonist"

"The principal focus of The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is the sexual arousal of the central character at both the idea and the spectacle of the total degradation, humiliation, mutilation, torture, and murder of his
you should all take a look at the BBFC's review. Here's an excerpt:

"Unlike the first film, the sequel presents graphic images of sexual violence, forced defecation, and mutilation, and the viewer is invited to witness events from the perspective of the protagonist"

"The principal focus of The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is the sexual arousal of the central character at both the idea and the spectacle of the total degradation, humiliation, mutilation, torture, and murder of his naked victims. Examples of this include a scene early in the film in which he masturbates whilst he watches a DVD of the original Human Centipede film, with sandpaper wrapped around his penis, and a sequence later in the film in which he becomes aroused at the sight of the members of the ‘centipede’ being forced to defecate into one another’s mouths, culminating in sight of the man wrapping barbed wire around his penis and raping the woman at the rear of the ‘centipede’. There is little attempt to portray any of the victims in the film as anything other than objects to be brutalised, degraded and mutilated for the amusement and arousal of the central character, as well as for the pleasure of the audience. There is a strong focus throughout on the link between sexual arousal and sexual violence and a clear association between pain, perversity and sexual pleasure."

Sounds like typical torture porn to me, but in a much more literal sense. Nothing more than low-grade, B-movie garbage. Shouldn't have been completely banned, but I know I won't be seeing it.
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12:02PM on 06/07/2011
my typing stinks bear with me.
my typing stinks bear with me.
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12:01PM on 06/07/2011

never

maybe i am too jaded, and disgusting myself but to this day i have not seen any film worth ever censoring, and yes i have seen the original as well as serbian film, and cannibal holocaust. no film has ever made me say this should be banned i have said i don't like it but i feel any art should be allowed, either all art is allowed or none. censoring any of it is disrespectful to the audience and the artist.
maybe i am too jaded, and disgusting myself but to this day i have not seen any film worth ever censoring, and yes i have seen the original as well as serbian film, and cannibal holocaust. no film has ever made me say this should be banned i have said i don't like it but i feel any art should be allowed, either all art is allowed or none. censoring any of it is disrespectful to the audience and the artist.
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11:58AM on 06/07/2011
A serbian has untrue rep about it, it wasn't as shocking as i thought it would be, life and death of a porno gang was weak also. I've seen much worse being a three time combat vet; movies can't hold a candle to reality. The only twice has a flick bothered me first was hostel 2 with the girl crying for her mom during the lady bathroy seen, second pretty much all of megan is missing.
A serbian has untrue rep about it, it wasn't as shocking as i thought it would be, life and death of a porno gang was weak also. I've seen much worse being a three time combat vet; movies can't hold a candle to reality. The only twice has a flick bothered me first was hostel 2 with the girl crying for her mom during the lady bathroy seen, second pretty much all of megan is missing.
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11:51AM on 06/07/2011

Dear Mr. Six

Please never refer to your films as art ever again. It is a punch to the gut to actual art.

Thank you.
Please never refer to your films as art ever again. It is a punch to the gut to actual art.

Thank you.
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11:48AM on 06/07/2011
I'm not for censoring or banning a movie, but once in a while something a movie is made that really shouldn't be seen by anyone. Case in point "A Serbian Film". I've seen tons of banned movies in my 43 years, but I've never seen anything like it. Just the thought of something called infant porn should be banned.
I'm not for censoring or banning a movie, but once in a while something a movie is made that really shouldn't be seen by anyone. Case in point "A Serbian Film". I've seen tons of banned movies in my 43 years, but I've never seen anything like it. Just the thought of something called infant porn should be banned.
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11:47AM on 06/07/2011

funny

When reading the quote form the Director all i could understand was [link] i'm not going to make as much money now" I love how a person can come up with fucked up shit that would only be accepted and love by some of the more extreme niches and try to defend it by calling it "art". Fuck off.
When reading the quote form the Director all i could understand was [link] i'm not going to make as much money now" I love how a person can come up with fucked up shit that would only be accepted and love by some of the more extreme niches and try to defend it by calling it "art". Fuck off.
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11:45AM on 06/07/2011
Extra Tidbit first: Seen a movie called Martyrs, that was a pretty fucked up shocking movie. Then I heard Antichrist is just as bad.

Now, I had no intentions on watching The Human Centipede 2 (did not watch the first one either), so I read the spoiler filled BBFC review of the movie. Although, I understand why they banned it, I do not agree. They basically banded it for 2 reasons: “sexually violent fantasies” and the risk of corrupting the viewer. If the UK is anything like the US, here
Extra Tidbit first: Seen a movie called Martyrs, that was a pretty fucked up shocking movie. Then I heard Antichrist is just as bad.

Now, I had no intentions on watching The Human Centipede 2 (did not watch the first one either), so I read the spoiler filled BBFC review of the movie. Although, I understand why they banned it, I do not agree. They basically banded it for 2 reasons: “sexually violent fantasies” and the risk of corrupting the viewer. If the UK is anything like the US, here violence is okay but nudity and sexual violence is despised. This I think is a load of hypocrisy.

To be fair The Human Centipede 2 does have some pretty demented shit in the flick. I can’t give examples without spoiling it. But I still wouldn’t have banned it. Yes people do/can become influenced from watching a movie, but if you use this argument you have to start banning a lot of fucking movies.
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11:43AM on 06/07/2011

Shock value

My problem with movies like the first one and ones like it's kind is that if it doesn't have a good story or characters and the gore is the main selling point...

i get kinda bored. I mean even movies like hostel try to get the characters names and backstory. But without it i'm never really shocked... more just sleepy and bored
My problem with movies like the first one and ones like it's kind is that if it doesn't have a good story or characters and the gore is the main selling point...

i get kinda bored. I mean even movies like hostel try to get the characters names and backstory. But without it i'm never really shocked... more just sleepy and bored
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11:42AM on 06/07/2011

Extra tidbit...

Watch a siberian film. That movie makes the first HUMAN CENTIPEDE look like seasame Street.
Watch a siberian film. That movie makes the first HUMAN CENTIPEDE look like seasame Street.
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11:39AM on 06/07/2011
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If you ain't got this, you ain't got shit.

America has a lot of problems. This ain't one of 'em.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If you ain't got this, you ain't got shit.

America has a lot of problems. This ain't one of 'em.
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8:02PM on 06/07/2011
You may want to read up on the precedents for obscenity rulings in the United States, if you think the US is a magical land where everything is permitted.
You may want to read up on the precedents for obscenity rulings in the United States, if you think the US is a magical land where everything is permitted.
2:51AM on 06/08/2011
I think you'll find most obscenity rulings simply banned the public display or broadcast over public airwaves - but NOT banned altogether of certain material. Name me one fiction film that is currently banned in the USA. Name one. Just one. C'mon, big man.
I think you'll find most obscenity rulings simply banned the public display or broadcast over public airwaves - but NOT banned altogether of certain material. Name me one fiction film that is currently banned in the USA. Name one. Just one. C'mon, big man.
9:35AM on 06/08/2011
Film bannings are done by local jurisdiction in the United States, so there's a long list. Many of them I'm sure would raise your blood pressure. Anything depicting child pornography is going to be banned in any jurisdiction - I apologize for not familiarizing myself with their titles.

The process is different, but the result is the same. And in some ways its worse, as you have backwater communities in KS and TX banning textbooks because they include evolution. So while a ruling might
Film bannings are done by local jurisdiction in the United States, so there's a long list. Many of them I'm sure would raise your blood pressure. Anything depicting child pornography is going to be banned in any jurisdiction - I apologize for not familiarizing myself with their titles.

The process is different, but the result is the same. And in some ways its worse, as you have backwater communities in KS and TX banning textbooks because they include evolution. So while a ruling might not be nation-wide, so say it doesn't exist in the US is factually incorrect.

Big guy? Why don't you simmer down? Or is that your schtick - you take a disagreement and get all up in peoples' grills over the internet?
1:12PM on 06/08/2011
We're not talking about CP. We're talking about FICTION. CP is already illegal. Nobody's arguing it shouldn't be. I said name one fictional film that's been banned in the USA and you go on about child abuse, yeeesh.

BTW: Local jurisdictions no longer have the power to ban films. Not in present day. Taking a book out of the school system is not the same as banning.
We're not talking about CP. We're talking about FICTION. CP is already illegal. Nobody's arguing it shouldn't be. I said name one fictional film that's been banned in the USA and you go on about child abuse, yeeesh.

BTW: Local jurisdictions no longer have the power to ban films. Not in present day. Taking a book out of the school system is not the same as banning.
11:28AM on 06/07/2011

Is this a big deal?

The Human Centipede had nothing in it except gore. That's all it had to offer. Is that really enough to make a film in the first place? I don't think so. Maybe if they had inserted an actual story or good actors/acting then maybe the first film would have been something other than a joke on South Park.
The Human Centipede had nothing in it except gore. That's all it had to offer. Is that really enough to make a film in the first place? I don't think so. Maybe if they had inserted an actual story or good actors/acting then maybe the first film would have been something other than a joke on South Park.
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11:25AM on 06/07/2011
Part 1 was hardly a classic
Part 1 was hardly a classic
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