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Guillermo del Toro's Pacific Rim 2 may be dead in the water

09.16.2015

We've heard a lot of cool details over the past couple of months regarding PACIFIC RIM 2, and while the first didn't exactly make GODZILLA numbers, it seemed like it did well enough to warrant a sequel. Well, according to The Hollywood Reporter, Guillermo del Toro's follow-up may be dead in the water. In a lengthy article detailing the relationship between Lionsgate and Universal, the Reporter makes mention that their sources say Legendary has halted production indefinitely and will push the release date back, if it gets made at all. There's been no official word regarding the film's production, so we'll have to wait and see if it's just talk or something more.

Sadly, this news doesn't exactly come as any great surprise. Del Toro has never really hit those big box-office numbers studios are looking for, despite crafting some fan-favorites like the Hellboy films. If you were wondering why the man seems to take on so many projects, you may have your answer! Poor guy doesn't even know which of his movies will be made next, if any! In the meantime, I'd like to remain blissfully unaware of what the Reporter is stating, but I'll feel more comfortable once we hear word from del Toro himself on the matter.

As of now, PACIFIC RIM 2 is still set for a August 4, 2017 release.

Seriously, how could someone not want more of this?

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5:56PM on 09/20/2015
Good, we don't need a sequel. Just move on.
Good, we don't need a sequel. Just move on.
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6:26AM on 09/18/2015
Pacific Rim wasn't terrible, but I thought it was pretty dull and its fight scenes grew repetitive and tiresome after the first few minutes so I can't say it bothers me that there won't be a sequel. Plus, less Charlie Hunnam (who may have even less charisma than Jai Courtney and Sam Worthington) on the big screen is a good thing, in my opinion.
Pacific Rim wasn't terrible, but I thought it was pretty dull and its fight scenes grew repetitive and tiresome after the first few minutes so I can't say it bothers me that there won't be a sequel. Plus, less Charlie Hunnam (who may have even less charisma than Jai Courtney and Sam Worthington) on the big screen is a good thing, in my opinion.
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10:42PM on 09/17/2015
I think the dark, bleak, and depressing mood of the movie is what killed it. Had Del Toro set the movie during the heyday of Jaeger pilots where they were considered celebrity heroes, it might have worked better. Fight scenes should be set primarily during broad daylight with civilians gather and cheer rather than running for their lives. The story should be building up to the moment where all hope and optimism shown during the first half of the movie suddenly extinguished, and the rest of it
I think the dark, bleak, and depressing mood of the movie is what killed it. Had Del Toro set the movie during the heyday of Jaeger pilots where they were considered celebrity heroes, it might have worked better. Fight scenes should be set primarily during broad daylight with civilians gather and cheer rather than running for their lives. The story should be building up to the moment where all hope and optimism shown during the first half of the movie suddenly extinguished, and the rest of it should show how the heroes get back up if even possible at all. Ending it on a temporary victory would generate more interest in the sequel. Instead, what we got in the movie is about humanity at its lowest point, inhabited by people who has nothing much to lose. This makes the ending so predictable and the heroes utterly unrelatable to the audience. The closest thing we got to caring about them is when the favorite father and son duo part ways before the final showdown, waving a huge death flag on the younger Hansen. The main hero and heroine being a washed up soldier and a cute little Japanese girl just feels like a substandard anime trope. Del Toro couldn't even be bothered to flesh out the Chinese and Russian pilot characters a bit more before he made them into kaiju fodder.
In short, I would love to see a prequel to this but maybe not with Del Toro at the helm. Heck, even an animated series is good enough for me.
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8:24AM on 09/17/2015
It was never really in "definitely needs a sequel" territory, but I'm not honestly going to say definitely not to a movie about giant robots. If the first movie had been stronger I don't think there'd be such hesitance about continuing the story.
Seriously, though, I've no idea why in these "giant somethings attack the remnants of humanity" scenarios there's always some jackass who thinks building a big wall is the answer - never works.
It was never really in "definitely needs a sequel" territory, but I'm not honestly going to say definitely not to a movie about giant robots. If the first movie had been stronger I don't think there'd be such hesitance about continuing the story.
Seriously, though, I've no idea why in these "giant somethings attack the remnants of humanity" scenarios there's always some jackass who thinks building a big wall is the answer - never works.
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5:48AM on 09/17/2015
Every time I hear about Del Toro's future, I just think "Make Hellboy 3 already! It is your duty!"
Every time I hear about Del Toro's future, I just think "Make Hellboy 3 already! It is your duty!"
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9:56PM on 09/16/2015
By now "Del Toro!" must be the sound of an evil gypsy curse Hollywood executives shout at their worst competitors. His name attached to a project has become a guarantee for problems, push backs, cancellations and bankruptcy:
Hellboy 3 - Still no financing
Hobbit movies - MGM was broke when he was attached to the project and recovered just when he left the director's chair
Mountain of Madness - never gonna happen
Pacific Rim - critically trashed and only mildly successful considering its
By now "Del Toro!" must be the sound of an evil gypsy curse Hollywood executives shout at their worst competitors. His name attached to a project has become a guarantee for problems, push backs, cancellations and bankruptcy:
Hellboy 3 - Still no financing
Hobbit movies - MGM was broke when he was attached to the project and recovered just when he left the director's chair
Mountain of Madness - never gonna happen
Pacific Rim - critically trashed and only mildly successful considering its huge budget
And then there were his two big video game projects:
inSane from Volition got cancelled after two years of full development when publisher THQ collapsed
Silent Hill got cancelled when his partner and game director Kojima split from Publisher Konami who then cancelled the project alltogether.

I am not saying any of this is his fault. But having his name attached to a big budget project just means bad luck.
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8:27AM on 09/17/2015
Though by all accounts the whole Silent Hills debacle was down to Konami being insane and trying to destroy their legacy in favour of making pachinko games.
Though by all accounts the whole Silent Hills debacle was down to Konami being insane and trying to destroy their legacy in favour of making pachinko games.
9:28PM on 09/17/2015
The Silent Hill project's cancellation is the one that hurts the most.
The Silent Hill project's cancellation is the one that hurts the most.
7:59PM on 09/16/2015

great news...

I mean... its not "great news" that PACRIM 2 was cancelled... its great news that the man can move on to something other than doing a sequel to one of his weaker film entries....
I mean... its not "great news" that PACRIM 2 was cancelled... its great news that the man can move on to something other than doing a sequel to one of his weaker film entries....
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6:19PM on 09/16/2015

I would have been ok with a sequel.

Much like most Del Toro movie news, I think I will ignore it until I know he has started work on something. In the Mouth of Madness, Hellboy 3, Justice League Dark would be lovely but unless his arse is actually sitting behind a camera that is actually rolling then he isn't doing it.
Much like most Del Toro movie news, I think I will ignore it until I know he has started work on something. In the Mouth of Madness, Hellboy 3, Justice League Dark would be lovely but unless his arse is actually sitting behind a camera that is actually rolling then he isn't doing it.
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5:51PM on 09/16/2015
Well, he never really gave us a reason to care with the first one. Most of us thought that the concept of giant robots fighting giant monsters would be enough of a reason, (I was among them) but it turns out that sometimes you need more than that to carry a film.
Well, he never really gave us a reason to care with the first one. Most of us thought that the concept of giant robots fighting giant monsters would be enough of a reason, (I was among them) but it turns out that sometimes you need more than that to carry a film.
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4:45PM on 09/16/2015
And there was much rejoicing!

Pacific Rim had its moments, but not having any logical story line just killed it for me. Seriously take two seconds to at least plug a few of the huge plot chasms.
And there was much rejoicing!

Pacific Rim had its moments, but not having any logical story line just killed it for me. Seriously take two seconds to at least plug a few of the huge plot chasms.
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4:10PM on 09/16/2015
This makes me happy. I love Guillermo del Toro, but I felt Pacific Rim was one of his weakest movies. I hope he now makes At The Mountains Of Madness, Hellboy 3, and perhaps some more original horror stories.
This makes me happy. I love Guillermo del Toro, but I felt Pacific Rim was one of his weakest movies. I hope he now makes At The Mountains Of Madness, Hellboy 3, and perhaps some more original horror stories.
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3:47PM on 09/16/2015

Disparaging news...wanted a sequel

I really loved this movie! It was exactly what it needed to be and never tried to be anything more than that...which was giant awesome looking robots fighting giant equally awesome looking alien monsters And despite the story being nothing complex, it was leaps an bounds better than Godzilla or any of the Bayformers flicks.
I really loved this movie! It was exactly what it needed to be and never tried to be anything more than that...which was giant awesome looking robots fighting giant equally awesome looking alien monsters And despite the story being nothing complex, it was leaps an bounds better than Godzilla or any of the Bayformers flicks.
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3:46PM on 09/16/2015

Good.

Pacific Rim sucked.
Pacific Rim sucked.
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3:25PM on 09/16/2015
Agreed on the "Lets get Hellboy 3going, Guillermo" angle. I found Pacific Rim uninteresting as some other commenters did - but that's simply personal preference. I am weary of mass city destruction, caused by superheroes, aliens, disasters, or giant robots.
Agreed on the "Lets get Hellboy 3going, Guillermo" angle. I found Pacific Rim uninteresting as some other commenters did - but that's simply personal preference. I am weary of mass city destruction, caused by superheroes, aliens, disasters, or giant robots.
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3:22PM on 09/16/2015
It's Guillermo Del Toro, I'm surprised the first one got made.
It's Guillermo Del Toro, I'm surprised the first one got made.
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3:18PM on 09/16/2015
Hellboy 3. ASAP.
Hellboy 3. ASAP.
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3:17PM on 09/16/2015

Welp that's a dead IP that was never given a chance.

Everyone wants Hellboy 3 (I don't, the last one sucked and movie studios would only tear apart the third film, like they did #2). I am surprised del Toro got Crimson Peak made (obviously with a lot of interference as the CGI looks shit in all the trailers).

I just feel like Hollywood studios will never let del Toro do his own thing. At least with actors, like Jackie Chan, if Hollywood forces him to do horrible cop comedies, he can go to China and make the movies his own way. I wish del Toro
Everyone wants Hellboy 3 (I don't, the last one sucked and movie studios would only tear apart the third film, like they did #2). I am surprised del Toro got Crimson Peak made (obviously with a lot of interference as the CGI looks shit in all the trailers).

I just feel like Hollywood studios will never let del Toro do his own thing. At least with actors, like Jackie Chan, if Hollywood forces him to do horrible cop comedies, he can go to China and make the movies his own way. I wish del Toro had that same freedom somewhere. Maybe he needs to go indie? Or start his own studio...
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3:14PM on 09/16/2015
We didn't need a second one to begin with.
We didn't need a second one to begin with.
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2:59PM on 09/16/2015
Fine by me. Pacific Rim wasn't really interesting to me. I felt the idea was there but also felt the final product didn't live up to what I expected like I'd hope it would. Rather see another Hellboy
Fine by me. Pacific Rim wasn't really interesting to me. I felt the idea was there but also felt the final product didn't live up to what I expected like I'd hope it would. Rather see another Hellboy
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2:58PM on 09/16/2015
I didn't care for the first one all that much. I was surprised a 2nd was coming and now I hope he can focus on something that people want: Hellboy 3.
I didn't care for the first one all that much. I was surprised a 2nd was coming and now I hope he can focus on something that people want: Hellboy 3.
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2:46PM on 09/16/2015
Good.
Good.
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2:33PM on 09/16/2015
Why fuck not? Also, why would Lionsgate play a role when Legendary is partnered with Universal?
Why fuck not? Also, why would Lionsgate play a role when Legendary is partnered with Universal?
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2:25PM on 09/16/2015

Eh, as long as he's making something.

I think he has a lot of orginal ideas that are worth exploring outside of Pacific Rim. Unless it's Hellboy 3. I'd like to see Hellboy 3.
I think he has a lot of orginal ideas that are worth exploring outside of Pacific Rim. Unless it's Hellboy 3. I'd like to see Hellboy 3.
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