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01.30.2015

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Yesterday we touched on diversity in superhero films with the help of some great commentary from Jason Momoa. Today we get more specific and look at gender diversity in the genre with director Joss Whedon. Never one to shy away from speaking out against misogyny within the entertainment industry, his latest point on the topic comes from an interview he had on the set of AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON last summer as well as more recent clarification on his comments.

Talking with Digital Spy last year he said:

It’s a phenomenon in the [film] industry that we call ‘stupid people’. There is genuine, recalcitrant, intractable sexism, and old-fashioned quiet misogyny that goes on. You hear ‘Oh, [female superheroes] don’t work because of these two bad ones that were made eight years ago’, there’s always an excuse.

Back in 2013 while speaking to The Daily Beast Whedon also called the idea that a female superhero movie couldn't work "stupid." Since that interview with last summer both Marvel and DC Comics announced plans for standalone superhero films with female leads, CAPTAIN MARVEL and WONDER WOMAN.

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Speaking to BuzzFeed yesterday, Whedon clarified his comments:

I just thought, 'I sounded very harsh,'" he said about the original comments. "And then [Marvel announced], 'We're going to make Captain Marvel. We're going to make Black Panther. We're going to shake it up.' I was just like, great! Now I just sound mean and bitter. But, you know, there's a lot to be mean and bitter about.

I think I speak for the majority of us when I say, don’t feel bad at all Mr. Whedon. Not only was what he said accurate, it’s since been a more vocal sentiment felt by many others and is looking  more and more like it will be corrected. Maybe he had something to do with that, maybe not, but he spoke up and that’s commendable for someone working in this industry to do. The genre is driven by male characters right now and whether people want to throw blame at past failed efforts by female-driven films (I’m looking at you ELEKTRA) or say it’s not as profitable to take these "risks", I would point them towards YA movies like THE HUNGER GAMES, DIVERGENT, and even THE FAULT IN OUR STARS.

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He added to his recent comments saying:

[Captain Marvel is] something that [Marvel Studios chief] Kevin [Feige] has been working on for a while. And I obviously was a cheerleader, but he had to get all the ducks in a row and get all the minds in agreement. I think being a part of Disney maybe makes it easier, because they’re open to it. And Marvel now is in a position to shake up its own paradigm, because it’s got such a success record.

Whedon talked about the YA adaptations being a way to open up the avenues to tell more female-driven stories:

The superhero story — and I do consider [the YA adaptations] to be superhero stories — it doesn’t have to be about one tortured billionaire. It can be a girl and her community, her crushes, her fears. We can evolve that genre more quickly if we come at it from different ways. It both makes sense commercially and artistically. Not all the movies are going to be good. That never happens. But it’s going to open up the avenues.

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Whedon talked about the movie LUCY and how it’s a big step in the right direction for female-led superhero movies:

Lucy was a huge step, in a way. Because it was such a massive hit, and because Scarlett [Johansson] is amazing in it. Her in the first 40 minutes of that movie is just — she’s giving a powerhouse, emotional performance as a terrified and evolving person. It’s not just, ‘Oh, we’re going to pay lip service to this idea, and then get to the endless ass-kicking.’ It really is a character piece. She’s what you’re looking at the whole time. I mean, [she and I] don’t even talk about movies, and I had to tell her how great she was. So to deal from that place, instead of just ‘here’s a genre idea that will sell toys,’ is dynamite.

You would be hard pressed to find someone who would disagree with these comments or someone who would actually want to verbalize it. It’s clear that the majority of the movie industry is geared towards males, but there are changes in sight. More female-driven blockbusters are only a matter of time and will lead to even more diversity for the superhero genre, something it needs to breathe.

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3:24PM on 02/01/2015

Bukkshit

Wonder Woman the TV show ran from 1975 to 1979 over 60 episodes (2 90 minutes TV movies included) to good ratings. There are dozens of examples, including his own from years ago. Tomb Raiders did well enough for a sequel, Resident Evil is on something like number 6, and the list goes on, common ya'all!
Wonder Woman the TV show ran from 1975 to 1979 over 60 episodes (2 90 minutes TV movies included) to good ratings. There are dozens of examples, including his own from years ago. Tomb Raiders did well enough for a sequel, Resident Evil is on something like number 6, and the list goes on, common ya'all!
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11:20AM on 02/01/2015

Lucy was garbage

Terrible, terrible film
Terrible, terrible film
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7:13AM on 02/01/2015

Understanding

People who criticize him, saying Buffy is just a hot blonde cheerleader who kicks ass has never payed attention to anything in that show, if they actually watched it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with his femist opinion of the studio system. At the time he made his original comments about it, he was right. Sure he sounded bitter, but he's always been an advocate for strong women. Lucy, for example wasn't a great movie. But it was enjoyable, if you're not a complete curmudgeon. And people
People who criticize him, saying Buffy is just a hot blonde cheerleader who kicks ass has never payed attention to anything in that show, if they actually watched it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with his femist opinion of the studio system. At the time he made his original comments about it, he was right. Sure he sounded bitter, but he's always been an advocate for strong women. Lucy, for example wasn't a great movie. But it was enjoyable, if you're not a complete curmudgeon. And people who are saying her performance wasn't solid (especially in the first 40 minutes) are being a tad ignorant.
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4:35AM on 02/01/2015
Well, 'Captain Marvel' could still either be the Kree white guy with blond hair, his son Genis, the other guy from an alternate dimension, or any of the two female character who took on the name.
Well, 'Captain Marvel' could still either be the Kree white guy with blond hair, his son Genis, the other guy from an alternate dimension, or any of the two female character who took on the name.
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2:09AM on 02/01/2015

ridiculous

I'm becoming increasingly irritated by these articles. Who is saying these things?! He's the one that put scarjo's butt on all the avengers posters! The articles are just using strawman boogie men for bad guys. There are plenty of strong women in movies! What planet are people living on that agree with these types of articles? Especially in the marvel movies! Yes women in movies have a certain sexuality to them at times, so what? Every single marvel movie has the guys in at least
I'm becoming increasingly irritated by these articles. Who is saying these things?! He's the one that put scarjo's butt on all the avengers posters! The articles are just using strawman boogie men for bad guys. There are plenty of strong women in movies! What planet are people living on that agree with these types of articles? Especially in the marvel movies! Yes women in movies have a certain sexuality to them at times, so what? Every single marvel movie has the guys in at least one no shirt scene or in some tight shirt just for the sexiness. The only difference.... The guys don't complain about it! Women grew up with Barbie... Boo hoo... I grew up with freaking he-man and superman.. Try filling those shoes. You think females have it bad because female models are skinny... Well tell you what... Try putting on muscles and getting cut like a freaking male model!!!! I think we all need to take a step back and look at the big picture here. Women are just fine in movies no need to make a mountain out of a molehill!
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2:06AM on 02/01/2015

ridiculous

I'm becoming increasingly irritated by these articles. Who is saying these things?! He's the one that put scarjo's butt on all the avengers posters! The articles are just using strawman boogie men for bad guys. There are plenty of strong women in movies! What planet are people living on that agree with these types of articles? Especially in the marvel movies! Yes women in movies have a certain sexuality to them at times, so what? Every single marvel movie has the guys in at least
I'm becoming increasingly irritated by these articles. Who is saying these things?! He's the one that put scarjo's butt on all the avengers posters! The articles are just using strawman boogie men for bad guys. There are plenty of strong women in movies! What planet are people living on that agree with these types of articles? Especially in the marvel movies! Yes women in movies have a certain sexuality to them at times, so what? Every single marvel movie has the guys in at least one no shirt scene or in some tight shirty just for the sexiness. The only difference.... The guys don't complain about it! Women grew up with Barbie... Boo hoo... I grew up with freaking he-man and superman.. Trying filling those shoes. You think females have it bad because female models are skinny... Well tell you what... Try putting in muscles and getting cut like a freaking make model!!!! I think we all need to take a step back and look at the big picture here. Women are just fine in movies no need to make a mountain out of a molehill!
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10:48PM on 01/31/2015
Weren't Nikita, the Resident Evil, Alien and Underworld movies all female driven?
Weren't Nikita, the Resident Evil, Alien and Underworld movies all female driven?
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10:54PM on 01/31/2015
Thank you.
Thank you.
3:35PM on 02/02/2015
Ripply is a strong female character in the sense Joss is talking about. Why do you think they used his script for a movie the studio butchered.
Ripply is a strong female character in the sense Joss is talking about. Why do you think they used his script for a movie the studio butchered.
12:26PM on 01/31/2015
Whedon's idea of a strong and confident female character is someone who can punch and kick (and QUIP!), maim and kill (and QUIP!) better than most male characters. He's as bad as the "stupid people" he's criticizing.
Whedon's idea of a strong and confident female character is someone who can punch and kick (and QUIP!), maim and kill (and QUIP!) better than most male characters. He's as bad as the "stupid people" he's criticizing.
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8:27PM on 01/31/2015
I hate to admit it because I enjoy his work immensely but Whedon may be a tad overrated.
I hate to admit it because I enjoy his work immensely but Whedon may be a tad overrated.
9:25PM on 01/31/2015
Whedon is insufferable with his political opinions. I'm a fan of his movies, but he's one of those rich Hollywood Liberals who isn't happy unless he's pointing out how much more evolved he is on the issues.
Whedon is insufferable with his political opinions. I'm a fan of his movies, but he's one of those rich Hollywood Liberals who isn't happy unless he's pointing out how much more evolved he is on the issues.
3:57PM on 02/02/2015
schwarzerat, you've just merely scratched the surface of all of his female characters with that comment. I truly think many of you miss the point when you hear "Strong woman." You clearly have never actually watched any of his work. Or maybe you have. But you certainly didn't understand the woman in it.
schwarzerat, you've just merely scratched the surface of all of his female characters with that comment. I truly think many of you miss the point when you hear "Strong woman." You clearly have never actually watched any of his work. Or maybe you have. But you certainly didn't understand the woman in it.
10:41AM on 01/31/2015
Oh come on. Why does everything have to be about sex or race? And Lucy is a terrible example because it sucked.
Oh come on. Why does everything have to be about sex or race? And Lucy is a terrible example because it sucked.
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6:37AM on 01/31/2015

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Anyone claiming that Whedan can't create effective female characters should consider Zoe and in particular the character played by Christina Hendricks in Firefly. (Our Mrs Evans). I defy you to find better!
Anyone claiming that Whedan can't create effective female characters should consider Zoe and in particular the character played by Christina Hendricks in Firefly. (Our Mrs Evans). I defy you to find better!
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4:06AM on 01/31/2015
I don't care. I'm just here for the good movies. With male or female characters...

But this whole article seems to be a part of the problem. Instead of talking about good movies, we're talking about girl movies and boy movies. Like white people movies and black people movies. I know, white man's guilt and all that - slowly turning into just man's guilt... Just wish people would enjoy movies for what they are: movies. And not try to always turn it into something else.

No superhero movies
I don't care. I'm just here for the good movies. With male or female characters...

But this whole article seems to be a part of the problem. Instead of talking about good movies, we're talking about girl movies and boy movies. Like white people movies and black people movies. I know, white man's guilt and all that - slowly turning into just man's guilt... Just wish people would enjoy movies for what they are: movies. And not try to always turn it into something else.

No superhero movies starring non-whites: industry is racist.

No superhero movies starring females: industry is sexist.

No superhero movies starring gay people: industry is homophobic.

And so on...

Maybe I'm blind and ignorent or maybe I'm progressive. Who gives a fuck? Let's enjoy movies and not worry about shit...
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10:14AM on 01/31/2015
I wholly agree with you and that's why I think we need more diversity. Some really good comics don't get an adaptation because they don't star a white man and that's insane. Most of the comics I read do star a white man but when they don't, a good comic is a good comic and I don't let the race or the gender of the hero stop me. Hollywood should work the same way.
I wholly agree with you and that's why I think we need more diversity. Some really good comics don't get an adaptation because they don't star a white man and that's insane. Most of the comics I read do star a white man but when they don't, a good comic is a good comic and I don't let the race or the gender of the hero stop me. Hollywood should work the same way.
12:46PM on 01/31/2015
I hate to be this guy, but this type of comment is SO EASY to make when one is a male (which is implied in your comment) and (I'm inferring this, admittedly) white. When everything is catered towards that particular point of view, OF COURSE it's easy to dismiss all this and insist we just "enjoy movies and not worry about shit". For females and minorities, however, it's pretty glaring that something's not right.

When the vast majority of movies contain casts of almost exclusively white
I hate to be this guy, but this type of comment is SO EASY to make when one is a male (which is implied in your comment) and (I'm inferring this, admittedly) white. When everything is catered towards that particular point of view, OF COURSE it's easy to dismiss all this and insist we just "enjoy movies and not worry about shit". For females and minorities, however, it's pretty glaring that something's not right.

When the vast majority of movies contain casts of almost exclusively white males, or when the few minorities are ALWAYS portrayed to be the bad guys or the terrorists or the slaves, or when the few women are ALWAYS portrayed as weak damsels in distress or as sex objects or as characters to die so the male can have motivation...well, from that standpoint it's quite clear that there IS racism going on, there IS sexism going in, and yeah there IS homophobia going on.

Take it from me: this article isn't even close to being part of the problem. People who try to dismiss this kind of talk and want to focus on "enjoying movies for what they are" ARE part of the problem. I'm not trying to attack you, just trying to explain the situation a little better.
9:28PM on 01/31/2015
Yeah, I watched the Equalizer last night and all I could think about was how Denzel was playing the part of a slave/bad guy and the white Russian mobsters were the heroes.

You shouldn't be THAT guy....it's only a position for people who generalize.
Yeah, I watched the Equalizer last night and all I could think about was how Denzel was playing the part of a slave/bad guy and the white Russian mobsters were the heroes.

You shouldn't be THAT guy....it's only a position for people who generalize.
11:14AM on 02/01/2015
@Des1, Uh, do you seriously think a single example of a Denzel Washington movie disproves everything I said?? How about the movie Exodus, where ALL the main characters were whitewashed...except for many of the slave roles, which just so happened to be the one area where they went out of their way to cast people of color? What about ANY example of the black guy being the first person to be killed off in almost EVERY movie, which is so common that it's become a cliche' at this point?

Moving on
@Des1, Uh, do you seriously think a single example of a Denzel Washington movie disproves everything I said?? How about the movie Exodus, where ALL the main characters were whitewashed...except for many of the slave roles, which just so happened to be the one area where they went out of their way to cast people of color? What about ANY example of the black guy being the first person to be killed off in almost EVERY movie, which is so common that it's become a cliche' at this point?

Moving on to gender, what about practically every comic book movie that features a woman in the role of damsel in distress, with little to nothing else to do? What about all the female characters who only exist to be ogled over by the men? What about all the females who've been "fridged" simply to provide motivation for the male hero (heck, they made an entire trilogy of movies based on this concept - Taken)?

You know what, I take it back. I DON'T hate to be "that" guy. Joss Whedon is being "that guy" in his comments above too. Maybe the world needs more of "that" in order to make it a slightly better place.
4:53PM on 02/02/2015
SauronsBane, you don't get it. Your not looking at the big picture. You criticize someones example of the Denzel movie and then you turn around and give an example of a movie to try to prove the same point. One movies does not make the whole movie industry. Did you complain about the new Johnny blaze being black? If we shouldn't care about ethnicity why change it in the first place? Duh. Why complain about Moses being Christian Bale. White people only get 64% of the roles in Hollywood, so
SauronsBane, you don't get it. Your not looking at the big picture. You criticize someones example of the Denzel movie and then you turn around and give an example of a movie to try to prove the same point. One movies does not make the whole movie industry. Did you complain about the new Johnny blaze being black? If we shouldn't care about ethnicity why change it in the first place? Duh. Why complain about Moses being Christian Bale. White people only get 64% of the roles in Hollywood, so technically they are under represented. Women get a lot strong movie roles and so do black people, but the reality is people don't want equality in movies they went favoritism and that's something that I think most people should be against. Even movies with strong female leads, most times not always but most, it's still males who make up the majority of the audience! Explain that please.

All this crap is from josh and people who share is opinion is just to drum up the whole victimization thing, to what end I wonder? It's just placating and therefore belittle the very people he supposedly is saying are victims in Hollywood. What, are more women are going to see avengers 2 now? Negative and if they do it won't be because of scarjo being heavily shown in the trailer it will be because Chris hemsworth is taking a bath with at least no shirt on! Why do you think they showed it? You think these people don't freaking test every single frame of a trailer to see what works with various groups of people? Of course they do! And Chris scores higher points than Scarlet witch or black widow with women!
3:59AM on 01/31/2015

haha

I've never rated whedon, i find him incredibly average writer and director. He also cannot write string female characters i mean look at buffy, that's not a strong female character. He is the Michael bay of the superhero world.
I've never rated whedon, i find him incredibly average writer and director. He also cannot write string female characters i mean look at buffy, that's not a strong female character. He is the Michael bay of the superhero world.
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3:43PM on 02/02/2015
So, are you looking at a picture of Buffy, or are you takling about Buffy after you've watched every episode and actually understood general things in human psyce like emotional struggle, sacrifice, overcoming obstacles on a spiritual level, standing up for what you believe in no matter what the opposition... *sigh* you're the type of people he's talking about.
So, are you looking at a picture of Buffy, or are you takling about Buffy after you've watched every episode and actually understood general things in human psyce like emotional struggle, sacrifice, overcoming obstacles on a spiritual level, standing up for what you believe in no matter what the opposition... *sigh* you're the type of people he's talking about.
3:23AM on 01/31/2015

Whedon is such a tiresome whiner.

Blah, blah, blah. I liked Avengers, but it's hard to want to root for the guy when he comes across so childish in every single damned interview he does. Just reeks of having a huge ego. Also: Lucy was utter toss. Wanted to like it; hated it.
Blah, blah, blah. I liked Avengers, but it's hard to want to root for the guy when he comes across so childish in every single damned interview he does. Just reeks of having a huge ego. Also: Lucy was utter toss. Wanted to like it; hated it.
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4:50AM on 01/31/2015
I also find it hilarious that thus is coming from a guy who's strongest female character is a hot blonde cheerleader whobwould spend halfher time pining after guys and the other half fighting vampires, tgats nova stronge female character.
I also find it hilarious that thus is coming from a guy who's strongest female character is a hot blonde cheerleader whobwould spend halfher time pining after guys and the other half fighting vampires, tgats nova stronge female character.
10:01AM on 01/31/2015
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The blonde cheerleader type was a callback to all the horror films where that type of characters was always the victim.

As for the importance of romance, your proportion is way, way off. It wasn't more than Arrow, Flash or other shows of the genre. Now that I think of it, her time as a cheerleader was spectacularly brief also. No more than an episode or two.
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The blonde cheerleader type was a callback to all the horror films where that type of characters was always the victim.

As for the importance of romance, your proportion is way, way off. It wasn't more than Arrow, Flash or other shows of the genre. Now that I think of it, her time as a cheerleader was spectacularly brief also. No more than an episode or two.
3:09AM on 01/31/2015

Bravo

I'm glad Whedon isn't afraid to stand up and say something. The guy is right and is just stating the truth.
I'm glad Whedon isn't afraid to stand up and say something. The guy is right and is just stating the truth.
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10:51PM on 02/02/2015
Nothing truthful about what he said. It's a belief people have that women aren't portrayed strongly in movies. Has nobody seen a movie in 30 years? Men are used as sex symbols same as women they just don't complain about it. Men have a more impossible standard to live up to as well. Going to the old argument about women models... Ha.. That's nothing, they are just skinny! Male models not only are skinny but are ripped and many have muscles! It's way more difficult to maintain the male
Nothing truthful about what he said. It's a belief people have that women aren't portrayed strongly in movies. Has nobody seen a movie in 30 years? Men are used as sex symbols same as women they just don't complain about it. Men have a more impossible standard to live up to as well. Going to the old argument about women models... Ha.. That's nothing, they are just skinny! Male models not only are skinny but are ripped and many have muscles! It's way more difficult to maintain the male model physique than it is the women's. Muscle is factually harder to maintain while staying skinny than it is just to be skinny. People like josh are just putting their insipid political victimization meme out there and it doesn't do anyone any good.
2:27AM on 01/31/2015
Well no doubt the failures of Elektra & Catwoman a few back is what opened that attitude about female driven comic films but the success The Hunger Games & Lucy can no doubt be a good for the industry in general. It's a good step forward we are finally getting Wonder Woman & Captain Marvel. Whedon makes some very good points in his comments as well.
Well no doubt the failures of Elektra & Catwoman a few back is what opened that attitude about female driven comic films but the success The Hunger Games & Lucy can no doubt be a good for the industry in general. It's a good step forward we are finally getting Wonder Woman & Captain Marvel. Whedon makes some very good points in his comments as well.
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12:43AM on 01/31/2015

Good for him

Joss Whedon has always championed strong heroines, as far back as BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER so he has every right to call Hollywood on its passive-aggressive misogyny.

I still think Marvel needs to do a Black Widow solo film (hey, they have Scarlett Johansson under contract!). I'd love to see Marvel steal a page from EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES and have Black Widow go undercover in HYDRA. Bring Hawkeye in there as the SHIELD agent who believes that she actually is a traitor and tries to
Joss Whedon has always championed strong heroines, as far back as BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER so he has every right to call Hollywood on its passive-aggressive misogyny.

I still think Marvel needs to do a Black Widow solo film (hey, they have Scarlett Johansson under contract!). I'd love to see Marvel steal a page from EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES and have Black Widow go undercover in HYDRA. Bring Hawkeye in there as the SHIELD agent who believes that she actually is a traitor and tries to bring her in.
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4:51AM on 01/31/2015
You think buffy is a strong female character?
You think buffy is a strong female character?
8:42AM on 01/31/2015
Yes, Buffy was a strong female character, and still a girl pining over boys and girl stuff. It's what kept her human. Love/Hate the show, Buffy was a role model for girls showing she can still be a girl and be strong nor be the damsel in distress
Yes, Buffy was a strong female character, and still a girl pining over boys and girl stuff. It's what kept her human. Love/Hate the show, Buffy was a role model for girls showing she can still be a girl and be strong nor be the damsel in distress
10:22AM on 01/31/2015
Yes, Buffy's a strong female character, Inara's a strong female character, Zoe's a strong female character, River Tam's a strong female character, Echo's a strong female character, and Black Widow's a strong female character.
Yes, Buffy's a strong female character, Inara's a strong female character, Zoe's a strong female character, River Tam's a strong female character, Echo's a strong female character, and Black Widow's a strong female character.
12:21PM on 02/02/2015
Haha they ain't strong women, kinda shows what you think if women.
Haha they ain't strong women, kinda shows what you think if women.
3:31PM on 02/02/2015
No, movie lover returns. It shows what YOU think of strong female characters. It shows that you haven't much understanding for what truly makes a strong woman character.
No, movie lover returns. It shows what YOU think of strong female characters. It shows that you haven't much understanding for what truly makes a strong woman character.
11:56PM on 01/30/2015
I'm sure he has enough pull to direct one now. Maybe he should put his money where his mouth is and do it instead of bitching about it. I'm all for female superheroes I can't wait for Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel but shit quit passing the buck on and fucking do it yourself.
I'm sure he has enough pull to direct one now. Maybe he should put his money where his mouth is and do it instead of bitching about it. I'm all for female superheroes I can't wait for Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel but shit quit passing the buck on and fucking do it yourself.
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12:41AM on 01/31/2015
Lol at the thumbs down you all know I'm right
Lol at the thumbs down you all know I'm right
3:07AM on 01/31/2015
I believed you got thumbed down because he has done it. He has done Buffy, Serenity, and Dollhouse. He's quite known for his female superheroes.
I believed you got thumbed down because he has done it. He has done Buffy, Serenity, and Dollhouse. He's quite known for his female superheroes.
10:06AM on 01/31/2015
So he gets no credit for trying to make the Wonder Woman movies a few years back, and he's supposed to be able to direct 2 superhero franchises at the same time?
So he gets no credit for trying to make the Wonder Woman movies a few years back, and he's supposed to be able to direct 2 superhero franchises at the same time?
11:28PM on 01/30/2015
If I'm not mistaken Whedon has been chamioning this for years. Still have to see Lucy but it doesent suprise me considering Luc Besson has also always been someone who has done great stuff with female charecters. The Professionals still has to be one of the bet examples of this.

also part of the reason for this in comic book films is most of the biggest charecters are male. They always have been and its a simple fact that the bigger films were never going to be about lesser known
If I'm not mistaken Whedon has been chamioning this for years. Still have to see Lucy but it doesent suprise me considering Luc Besson has also always been someone who has done great stuff with female charecters. The Professionals still has to be one of the bet examples of this.

also part of the reason for this in comic book films is most of the biggest charecters are male. They always have been and its a simple fact that the bigger films were never going to be about lesser known charecters. Nice that thier finnialy getting thier due as female badasses are always welcome.
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3:12AM on 01/31/2015
The Professional was about Leon, so I think you're thinking of La Femme Nikita.
The Professional was about Leon, so I think you're thinking of La Femme Nikita.
4:28AM on 01/31/2015
The Professional does have a strong lead female character. Mathilda. Strong doesn't mean physically strong.
The Professional does have a strong lead female character. Mathilda. Strong doesn't mean physically strong.
11:26PM on 01/30/2015

Fucking awesome stuff, Whedon!

It's so refreshing to see someone in the industry take such a strong stance on this, be incredibly vocal about it, and actually back those words up with his past actions. He's 200% right. I especially love his comment about how "There's always excuses". People like to talk about Catwoman or Elektra or what have you...but does anyone look at Green Lantern and say "There! That's why male-led superhero movies can't work!"?? Of course not. And there's the ugly double standard.

Someday, Hollywood
It's so refreshing to see someone in the industry take such a strong stance on this, be incredibly vocal about it, and actually back those words up with his past actions. He's 200% right. I especially love his comment about how "There's always excuses". People like to talk about Catwoman or Elektra or what have you...but does anyone look at Green Lantern and say "There! That's why male-led superhero movies can't work!"?? Of course not. And there's the ugly double standard.

Someday, Hollywood will realize that female-led movies will succeed or fail depending on the strength of the writers and directors...NOT because of the gender of the lead character. Lucy is a massive accomplishment because of the money it made, the performance by Johannson, and the fact that it shows a female-led movie can still make a lot of money, yet be utterly terrible. It sounds funny, but that's more important than one might realize.

With Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Divergent, The Hunger Games, and who knows what else on the way, hopefully this signals a change in Hollywood's conventional way of thinking. Fingers crossed!
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10:17PM on 01/30/2015
I'm all for female superheroes but Catwoman (with Halle Berry and Sharon Stone) was really really bad.
I'm all for female superheroes but Catwoman (with Halle Berry and Sharon Stone) was really really bad.
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9:54PM on 01/30/2015
This is such a good and positive article and I'm really glad I got to read it before all the sexist neckbeards show up in the comments.
This is such a good and positive article and I'm really glad I got to read it before all the sexist neckbeards show up in the comments.
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9:46PM on 01/30/2015
If he doesn't direct any of the Infinity War films then I would love to see him write and direct Captain Marvel.
If he doesn't direct any of the Infinity War films then I would love to see him write and direct Captain Marvel.
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