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Man of Steel scribe David Goyer says the Justice League movie will have a new Batman

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MAN OF STEEL opens today (you can check out our reviews here and here) and how it performs in theaters will impact the future for not only the character in films but also if JUSTICE LEAGUE will actually happen. That's a lot of pressure on the big three names that helped bring Superman back to the big screen: producer Christopher Nolan, director Zack Snyder and writer David Goyer.

Hey U Guys recently interviewed David Goyer and obviously a lot of the talk was about MAN OF STEEL, JUSTICE LEAGUE and DC's plans for other films. It's been rumored that Goyer is being looked at to write and/or direct MAN OF STEEL but when it was brought up in the interview he laughed it off and denied it.

It was not reported…! I did not definitely say that.

But Goyer must have talked to Snyder and Nolan about JUSTICE LEAGUE a little, right? Especially since Batman is obviously a part of the group and Nolan directed the last three movies with the character. Goyer reveals that they have had some conversations and that if JUSTICE LEAGUE was to happen it would not have Nolan's Batman in it.

It would be disingenuous to say Warner Bros doesn’t hope that this would be the starting point for a shared universe. And Zack has said that Bruce Wayne exists in this universe. It would be a different Bruce Wayne from Chris’ [Nolan] Dark Knight trilogy, and it would be disingenuous to say that Zack and I haven’t had various conversations on set, around ‘what if’ and ‘moving forward’.

That having been said, it’s all going to depend on the next few weeks. Warner Bros has hopes that there will be more Man Of Steel films, and that this will be the beginning of a shared universe. We could meet Batman, or Wonder Woman, or the Justice League in these movies. But they all hinge on box office reception.

If that happens, I would be happy, and nervous, to dive in.

David Goyer also said that if JUSTICE LEAGUE does get the green light it will not use the current script written by Will Beal and "it would be a blank slate." Goyer once again reiterates though that all of this depends on the how well MAN OF STEEL does at the box office and if that movie can perform as well as Nolan's Dark Knight series then there's a very good chance we could see more characters in the future.

They’re hoping that the film does well, but God forbid it doesn’t, things will change. I don’t know how many different iterations of Justice League they’ve tried to mount over the last decade or so. But for one reason or another they haven’t happened. I think Warner Bros has seen – and Chris deserves the biggest credit for this – that we were able to revitalize Batman and put it into the first billion dollar superhero film. And they’re hoping that Superman will be revitalized as well. And if we can do Batman and Superman, then maybe we can move on to Wonder Woman, and The Flash, and characters like that.

I had no problem with Christian Bale as Batman but I do think they need to start fresh. Keep the Nolan trilogy as a stand alone series. I feel like with Nolan's (semi) realistic take on the character and the world he lives in it would be odd seeing him now fighting with/against some characters that are pretty much Gods.

While it does look like JUSTICE LEAGUE has a better shot of happening now than it ever has before it does really depend on MAN OF STEEL. We bitch at a lot of studios for rushing sequels, prequels, etc. into theaters but I'm glad they're going with a wait and see approach for JUSTICE LEAGUE for now. Warner Bros. and DC know that Marvel is ahead of them when it comes to films and they are very aware that they could fall further behind if there is a setback as they try to move forwards with their cinematic universe.

Bottom-line: if you want JUSTICE LEAGUE you're going to have to let the studios know with your wallet by going to see MAN OF STEEL.

Extra Tidbit: Who do you want for Batman? And how different do you think the character will be in JUSTICE LEAGUE compared to the Nolan films? I'm guessing he's going to have a lot more gadgets.
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5:05PM on 06/16/2013
Who ever they cast, what ever they do, they have to remember that to keep Batman relevant and useful among all the meta humans and magic in the Justice League, He has to be a genius, brilliant detective, as agile as Captain America and just as good of a leader/tactician. Bales Batman was good for that world, but compared to his comic counter part/animated series counter part, he didn't have the brains or the agility that would be required.

Basically if Darkseid were to throw a car at
Who ever they cast, what ever they do, they have to remember that to keep Batman relevant and useful among all the meta humans and magic in the Justice League, He has to be a genius, brilliant detective, as agile as Captain America and just as good of a leader/tactician. Bales Batman was good for that world, but compared to his comic counter part/animated series counter part, he didn't have the brains or the agility that would be required.

Basically if Darkseid were to throw a car at Justice League Batman, he should be able to do a back flip and then dodge the car, all while planning his counter attack. That's the only Batman that would work in a JL movie. Which might mean there may have to be some CGI for old Bats.
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10:07PM on 06/15/2013
I saw Man of Steel two times back to back yesterday. There's no one that can convince me that movie was anything short of amazing as far as Superman films go. I don't know what more you could possibly want from a reboot.
I saw Man of Steel two times back to back yesterday. There's no one that can convince me that movie was anything short of amazing as far as Superman films go. I don't know what more you could possibly want from a reboot.
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11:18PM on 06/15/2013
YES
YES
5:15PM on 06/16/2013
It would have been pretty hard to have done anything better with out rehashing what's already been done with Superman. Totally agree with you.
It would have been pretty hard to have done anything better with out rehashing what's already been done with Superman. Totally agree with you.
5:35PM on 06/15/2013

Thank god for Marvel

Cause after seeing a man with a metal suit dealing with the real world, there was no way I thought he could possibly exist in "another" universe with gods and monsters. Get over yourself WB/DC, it's the movies, fantasy land. These aren't documentaries.
Cause after seeing a man with a metal suit dealing with the real world, there was no way I thought he could possibly exist in "another" universe with gods and monsters. Get over yourself WB/DC, it's the movies, fantasy land. These aren't documentaries.
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9:56AM on 06/15/2013

After Superman was so bad, JL has no hope to be good.

They need to start taking better care of their heroes. MoS was so bland and uninspired that JL has no hope to be good.
They need to start taking better care of their heroes. MoS was so bland and uninspired that JL has no hope to be good.
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11:17PM on 06/15/2013
Speak English Dude
Speak English Dude
5:56AM on 06/15/2013
I think having a lesser known actor as Batman for a Justice League movie would be better than forcing Bale or (please no) Joseph Gordon-Levitt into the continuity established by Man of Steel. Bale (as a post-TDKR Batman) would be too old standing side by side with the 30 something Superman, while JGL would look too young and lean.
I think having a lesser known actor as Batman for a Justice League movie would be better than forcing Bale or (please no) Joseph Gordon-Levitt into the continuity established by Man of Steel. Bale (as a post-TDKR Batman) would be too old standing side by side with the 30 something Superman, while JGL would look too young and lean.
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11:16PM on 06/15/2013
Oh yeah because it did'nt just work for THE AVENGERS
Oh yeah because it did'nt just work for THE AVENGERS
7:19PM on 06/14/2013
Deadline Hollywood is reporting MOS having a 4 day cume in the 125-136 mill range.. so its over performing studio estimates by a lot. As for a new Batman no biggie, Cavill more than showed audiences he can headline a Justice League movie.
Deadline Hollywood is reporting MOS having a 4 day cume in the 125-136 mill range.. so its over performing studio estimates by a lot. As for a new Batman no biggie, Cavill more than showed audiences he can headline a Justice League movie.
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4:28PM on 06/14/2013

I like continuity

and it seems like I'm alone when I say I don't give a shit about a "different" Batman if Bale is not in it. It's the way I felt about the the Hulk movies, same character, different actor. LOL, THREE DIFFERENT HULKS, that is over kill . I'm sure Christian Bale opted out, but for me that just kills it. I mean really, would people have liked the Avengers half as much without RD Jr. in it? Not me. Sure, an ensemble cast is more than just about one guy, but like I said, I like continuity when
and it seems like I'm alone when I say I don't give a shit about a "different" Batman if Bale is not in it. It's the way I felt about the the Hulk movies, same character, different actor. LOL, THREE DIFFERENT HULKS, that is over kill . I'm sure Christian Bale opted out, but for me that just kills it. I mean really, would people have liked the Avengers half as much without RD Jr. in it? Not me. Sure, an ensemble cast is more than just about one guy, but like I said, I like continuity when it comes to cast members. I would much rather there just not be Batman in the Justice League movie if they are going with another actor.
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7:42PM on 06/14/2013
Well if you're wanting continuity. Think about how old Batman will be with the JL forming. I get where you're coming from and am slightly bummed myself. However, I'll get over it.
Well if you're wanting continuity. Think about how old Batman will be with the JL forming. I get where you're coming from and am slightly bummed myself. However, I'll get over it.
7:47PM on 06/14/2013
You have a valid point... I guess I should get over it also. Nice avatar, love that movie.
You have a valid point... I guess I should get over it also. Nice avatar, love that movie.
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4:26PM on 06/14/2013
Having all future DC comic adaptations paused and their future depending on Man of Steels box office is.... Well a horrible position to have put yourself in. If Man of Steel is successful then they will just copy the working formula, which won't work for every hero. Here's an idea, take your exsisting characters and try to make the best movie possible with a creative team that has a vision, a vision that isn't let's copy what worked. DC is making a huge mistake by not trying to get a Flash
Having all future DC comic adaptations paused and their future depending on Man of Steels box office is.... Well a horrible position to have put yourself in. If Man of Steel is successful then they will just copy the working formula, which won't work for every hero. Here's an idea, take your exsisting characters and try to make the best movie possible with a creative team that has a vision, a vision that isn't let's copy what worked. DC is making a huge mistake by not trying to get a Flash movie out before Quicksilver appears in 2 different Marvel movies, now everyone will think they are copying Marvel if they introduce Flash this late in the game. Smh.
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4:14PM on 06/14/2013
I got nothing but time on my hands to wait for more DC movies. I sure hope I don't die before then. Don't fu*k it all up WB and/or DC.
I got nothing but time on my hands to wait for more DC movies. I sure hope I don't die before then. Don't fu*k it all up WB and/or DC.
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2:33PM on 06/14/2013

Oh, also...

Can I just say that I LOVE that the Kelley Jones' Batman is in that picture up above. I'd love to see a Batman movie with a version of that look, tone and feel.
Can I just say that I LOVE that the Kelley Jones' Batman is in that picture up above. I'd love to see a Batman movie with a version of that look, tone and feel.
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2:16PM on 06/14/2013
Its really hard to let go of nolans batman but this is the best option, even typing this now it hurts to say but it really is the best way to go. Id like to see batman in a more hyper realistic comic style, he has to keep up with superman somehow and its tough to see nolans batman doing so efficiently. Also,id like to finally see a batman costume with his dark grey and black or dark blue colors. This is the perfect opportunity to give him more of a comic style appearance, dark grey and black
Its really hard to let go of nolans batman but this is the best option, even typing this now it hurts to say but it really is the best way to go. Id like to see batman in a more hyper realistic comic style, he has to keep up with superman somehow and its tough to see nolans batman doing so efficiently. Also,id like to finally see a batman costume with his dark grey and black or dark blue colors. This is the perfect opportunity to give him more of a comic style appearance, dark grey and black can still be stealthy and badass. Hollywood needs to let go of that all black costume.
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2:15PM on 06/14/2013
Re-post sorry
Re-post sorry
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2:06PM on 06/14/2013

Good

Nolan's bat-films are phenomenal but they play out as more like crime capers with a Batman-like character that happens to be in the movies themselves rather than BATMAN movies. If Batman's gonna stand next to God's he has to have a little bit more adventure, fun, and sci-fi elements to tonally match-up. I'm not saying take him less dark, only embrace some of the more comic book aspects of his character instead of trying to make it ultra-realistic.
Nolan's bat-films are phenomenal but they play out as more like crime capers with a Batman-like character that happens to be in the movies themselves rather than BATMAN movies. If Batman's gonna stand next to God's he has to have a little bit more adventure, fun, and sci-fi elements to tonally match-up. I'm not saying take him less dark, only embrace some of the more comic book aspects of his character instead of trying to make it ultra-realistic.
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2:16PM on 06/14/2013
Yes Indeed!
Yes Indeed!
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1:59PM on 06/14/2013

I like the Batman Beyond idea from abcdehacademy & Netforce

Clint Eastwood for old Bruce Wayne, and Freddie Highmore or possibly Logan Lerman for the young Batman.
Clint Eastwood for old Bruce Wayne, and Freddie Highmore or possibly Logan Lerman for the young Batman.
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1:41PM on 06/14/2013

Armie Hammer

He's the only person I'd want to play the new Batman. I hope Lone Ranger tanks so he can play him.
He's the only person I'd want to play the new Batman. I hope Lone Ranger tanks so he can play him.
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1:41PM on 06/14/2013

Hopefully a new screenwriter too

Goyer has hopefully botched his last comic book franchise.
Goyer has hopefully botched his last comic book franchise.
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1:33PM on 06/14/2013

New Batman Please

i'd actually cast my vote for Andrew Lincoln (Walking Dead) for Bruce Wayne/Batman. He's a fantastic actor, looks the part, and is a big enough name without having too many commitments.
i'd actually cast my vote for Andrew Lincoln (Walking Dead) for Bruce Wayne/Batman. He's a fantastic actor, looks the part, and is a big enough name without having too many commitments.
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7:21PM on 06/14/2013
lol he's only the main star on the most popular show on television. I'm sure thats going to keep him busy for the next 5 or 6 yrs.
lol he's only the main star on the most popular show on television. I'm sure thats going to keep him busy for the next 5 or 6 yrs.
11:40PM on 06/14/2013
But he only has 1 tv show. It isnt not many episodes a season and they film relatively quickly. He seriously hasnt done any other role since taking on Walking Dead. There are tv stars who do full 20 episode seasons and still manage to get in a movie once a year. Tina Fey, Jon Hamm, Alec Baldwin, Patrick Dempsey.

It is easily possible for him to do both Walking Dead and Batman and even promote both
But he only has 1 tv show. It isnt not many episodes a season and they film relatively quickly. He seriously hasnt done any other role since taking on Walking Dead. There are tv stars who do full 20 episode seasons and still manage to get in a movie once a year. Tina Fey, Jon Hamm, Alec Baldwin, Patrick Dempsey.

It is easily possible for him to do both Walking Dead and Batman and even promote both
12:42PM on 06/14/2013
Keeping Nolan's universe out was old news, but I am glad he concreted that theory. Goyer is a great writer, and I'm sure his vision for the script will be epic and surprisingly deep. Avengers was fun and adventurous, but I can see Goyer adding some serious depth into JL.

PS. John Stewart Green Lantern Please!
Keeping Nolan's universe out was old news, but I am glad he concreted that theory. Goyer is a great writer, and I'm sure his vision for the script will be epic and surprisingly deep. Avengers was fun and adventurous, but I can see Goyer adding some serious depth into JL.

PS. John Stewart Green Lantern Please!
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12:57PM on 06/14/2013
I hope they stick with Hal Jordan for Green Lantern since that was the Green Lantern that was already established. For continuity purposes.
I hope they stick with Hal Jordan for Green Lantern since that was the Green Lantern that was already established. For continuity purposes.
7:23PM on 06/14/2013
John Stewart would be a good choice, but Jordan is the only Lantern that is mainstream. I'd keep him, even though GL sucked, Snyder could do wonders with Reynolds as the Lantern.
John Stewart would be a good choice, but Jordan is the only Lantern that is mainstream. I'd keep him, even though GL sucked, Snyder could do wonders with Reynolds as the Lantern.
9:55AM on 06/15/2013
Come to think of it a Snyder Green Lantern film would have been insanely awesome.
Come to think of it a Snyder Green Lantern film would have been insanely awesome.
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12:16PM on 06/14/2013
This is exactly the root they need to go. I'm glad they're not going with Nolans batman cause as much how awesome the films were that wasnt Batman from the JLA, that wasnt Batman from the comics.
This is exactly the root they need to go. I'm glad they're not going with Nolans batman cause as much how awesome the films were that wasnt Batman from the JLA, that wasnt Batman from the comics.
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12:04PM on 06/14/2013
Hiring a stronger writer than Goyer would be a good start.....
Hiring a stronger writer than Goyer would be a good start.....
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11:53AM on 06/14/2013

if i was the head of WB my plan would be:

1. push forward and expand on the MoS universe with a JL movie.
2. keep Henry Cavill as Superman and reboot everyone else.
2. cast Neil Patrick Harris as the Flash as the "tony stark of the group".
3. cast Jaimie Alexander as Wonder Woman to piss off Marvel.
4. cast James Earl Jones as the voice of Martian Manhuner for the "woah factor".
5. cast Benedict Cumberbatch as Aquaman/Khan.
6. cast Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern to please the fanboys.
7. cast Idris Elba as Bruce Wayne/Batman
1. push forward and expand on the MoS universe with a JL movie.
2. keep Henry Cavill as Superman and reboot everyone else.
2. cast Neil Patrick Harris as the Flash as the "tony stark of the group".
3. cast Jaimie Alexander as Wonder Woman to piss off Marvel.
4. cast James Earl Jones as the voice of Martian Manhuner for the "woah factor".
5. cast Benedict Cumberbatch as Aquaman/Khan.
6. cast Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern to please the fanboys.
7. cast Idris Elba as Bruce Wayne/Batman just to fuck with everyone.
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1:00PM on 06/14/2013
Neil Patrick Harris would be a terrible Flash. I want someone more serious for the role like Bradley Cooper, Ryan Gosling, John Krasinski, Charlie Hunnam, or Chris Pine.
Neil Patrick Harris would be a terrible Flash. I want someone more serious for the role like Bradley Cooper, Ryan Gosling, John Krasinski, Charlie Hunnam, or Chris Pine.
1:30PM on 06/14/2013
agreee with soloist, my money is on Hunnam but I would love to see Pine do it
agreee with soloist, my money is on Hunnam but I would love to see Pine do it
3:34PM on 06/14/2013
Serious? Nah the flash (and green lantern) has always been the comic relief in the group.
Serious? Nah the flash (and green lantern) has always been the comic relief in the group.
7:24PM on 06/14/2013
this must be sarcasm because minus idea # 2 every other idea is terrible.
this must be sarcasm because minus idea # 2 every other idea is terrible.
11:52AM on 06/14/2013

IDK

I don't know....I'm still bummed that The Dark Knight story line is over...Regardless of the "realistic" approach, I'd still like to see some continuity. Maybe they do have to recast with a different direction though dammit I don't know LOL
I don't know....I'm still bummed that The Dark Knight story line is over...Regardless of the "realistic" approach, I'd still like to see some continuity. Maybe they do have to recast with a different direction though dammit I don't know LOL
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11:44AM on 06/14/2013
Took three times to post, anyone else?

Better to have a new batman then to undo TDKR ending and have Bruce's knees magically heal.
Took three times to post, anyone else?

Better to have a new batman then to undo TDKR ending and have Bruce's knees magically heal.
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11:18AM on 06/14/2013
It bothers me that they keep on going about if Man of Steel makes the money. I understand the business point of view... but why keep going on about it? Have some f-ing faith in your brands for f's sake. So Man of Steel blows everything away ...but then the next Batman movie flops... or Wonder Woman and Flash turn out just as bad as Green Lantern... what then...they scrap the JL movie? I don't recall hearing such pessimistic views when Iron Man was to come out about the future direction of
It bothers me that they keep on going about if Man of Steel makes the money. I understand the business point of view... but why keep going on about it? Have some f-ing faith in your brands for f's sake. So Man of Steel blows everything away ...but then the next Batman movie flops... or Wonder Woman and Flash turn out just as bad as Green Lantern... what then...they scrap the JL movie? I don't recall hearing such pessimistic views when Iron Man was to come out about the future direction of their movies. They obviously would have had similar thoughts but they didn't keep on going on about it. In fact... I dont remember too much stuff about the eventual Avengers movie at that point in time...just the very cool nods to it both in the movie and outside of the movie ... pointing to the fact that this was the direction they wanted to head in. None of this... oh, if Iron Man flops... it's all over. Heck, Hulk, which I love by the way, didn't make that much money in relative terms...but they continued with the long-term plan...with, as I recall, not too much news about the plan for Avengers falling apart. Green Lantern made similar dough to Hulk yet they've seemingly ditched it. Admittedly the film sucked, but its just been typical of the way WB are handling the overall picture.
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11:01AM on 06/14/2013

Is this surprising?

It's been said by Nolan before, and now Goyer (twice), that Bale's Batman is in a separate world. Bringing in a new Batman only seems logical. My only concern is Goyer is writing the movie.
It's been said by Nolan before, and now Goyer (twice), that Bale's Batman is in a separate world. Bringing in a new Batman only seems logical. My only concern is Goyer is writing the movie.
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10:54AM on 06/14/2013
So there's NO chance for Adam West????
So there's NO chance for Adam West????
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10:53AM on 06/14/2013
Before Justice League they should just do a Suprman/Batman film aka something like Public Enemies to really establish the connection of the Justice League and to really build the relationship between Clark and Bruce.

Then once that's established, have Justice League with Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Arrow.
Before Justice League they should just do a Suprman/Batman film aka something like Public Enemies to really establish the connection of the Justice League and to really build the relationship between Clark and Bruce.

Then once that's established, have Justice League with Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Arrow.
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7:26PM on 06/14/2013
Hilarious, your idea on the Supes/Bats movie was commented earlier and has 7 positives, you say the same thing and get neg'd to death.
Hilarious, your idea on the Supes/Bats movie was commented earlier and has 7 positives, you say the same thing and get neg'd to death.
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10:50AM on 06/14/2013
And why is this news? We all knew that there was going to be a new person playing batman.
And why is this news? We all knew that there was going to be a new person playing batman.
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10:15AM on 06/14/2013
Doesn't matter. We've had every Batman from George Clooney to Val Kilmer. It's not connected to any one actor. Just have a scary voice and be stoic.
Doesn't matter. We've had every Batman from George Clooney to Val Kilmer. It's not connected to any one actor. Just have a scary voice and be stoic.
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10:09AM on 06/14/2013
I just hope the new Batman speaks with a non crazy Bat voice.
I just hope the new Batman speaks with a non crazy Bat voice.
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9:55AM on 06/14/2013

this is gonna get a lot of downvotes but

how much cooler would a batman beyond movie be than a justice league movie? Get that guy who made Dredd 3D to do it and i'll throw my entire life savings into the budget and it'll be grrrrrrreat.
how much cooler would a batman beyond movie be than a justice league movie? Get that guy who made Dredd 3D to do it and i'll throw my entire life savings into the budget and it'll be grrrrrrreat.
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9:59AM on 06/14/2013
It'd even be greater if Clint Eastwood can portray older Bruce Wayne.
It'd even be greater if Clint Eastwood can portray older Bruce Wayne.
10:18AM on 06/14/2013
Sold on both of these ideas.
Sold on both of these ideas.
10:40AM on 06/14/2013
Batman Beyond is really underrated. I was never really into Batman to be honest but Beyond stuck with me.
Great suggestion.
Batman Beyond is really underrated. I was never really into Batman to be honest but Beyond stuck with me.
Great suggestion.
12:28PM on 06/14/2013
while I still want a JL movie, I love the idea, I dont think theres any reason you couldnt have both, X-Men has older and new characters being played by different people, and GoTG doesn't look like its going to tie into the Avengers except for maybe the badguys, so why not do a Batman Beyond movie and then tie it in to JL in like the third one, maybe adapt the Crisis story line.... @Netforce, LOVE the idea of Eastwood playing an older Wayne, that would be amazing casting right there
while I still want a JL movie, I love the idea, I dont think theres any reason you couldnt have both, X-Men has older and new characters being played by different people, and GoTG doesn't look like its going to tie into the Avengers except for maybe the badguys, so why not do a Batman Beyond movie and then tie it in to JL in like the third one, maybe adapt the Crisis story line.... @Netforce, LOVE the idea of Eastwood playing an older Wayne, that would be amazing casting right there
1:17PM on 06/14/2013
+1 on that eastwood casting
+1 on that eastwood casting
9:51AM on 06/14/2013
They better make Batman Vs Superman movie first. If that's a success, it will nicely pave a way for Justice League movie.
They better make Batman Vs Superman movie first. If that's a success, it will nicely pave a way for Justice League movie.
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9:24AM on 06/14/2013
That's how it should be. The Dark Knight Rises tied that story arc up nicely and I would like Man of Steel to be the jumping-off point for a cinematic DC Universe, since the Dark Knight trilogy seemed to take place in a universe where the existence of other heroes might not gel as well. Man of Steel does use the Wayne Enterprises logo from the Nolanverse on that satellite, but I'm glad it wasn't explicitly established that it was the Christian Bale version of Bruce Wayne who owned that
That's how it should be. The Dark Knight Rises tied that story arc up nicely and I would like Man of Steel to be the jumping-off point for a cinematic DC Universe, since the Dark Knight trilogy seemed to take place in a universe where the existence of other heroes might not gel as well. Man of Steel does use the Wayne Enterprises logo from the Nolanverse on that satellite, but I'm glad it wasn't explicitly established that it was the Christian Bale version of Bruce Wayne who owned that satellite.
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9:46AM on 06/14/2013
Why not.. Why wouldn't you want an already established real world Batman. I hate that argument. It's ridiculous. According to you. RDJ should never have been a part of THE AVENGERS because IRONMAN 1 was grounded in reality.
Why not.. Why wouldn't you want an already established real world Batman. I hate that argument. It's ridiculous. According to you. RDJ should never have been a part of THE AVENGERS because IRONMAN 1 was grounded in reality.
9:58AM on 06/14/2013
I think it can be argued that Iron Man took place in a slightly more fantastical world than our own and than that of the Nolanverse. It was being developed at the same time The Incredible Hulk was, with the intention that they would tie together. With The Dark Knight, I think the curtain has already been brought down on that story and while I wouldn't have any big problems with Bale returning as Batman, it wouldn't feel quite right given that he's pretty much hung up the cape for good after
I think it can be argued that Iron Man took place in a slightly more fantastical world than our own and than that of the Nolanverse. It was being developed at the same time The Incredible Hulk was, with the intention that they would tie together. With The Dark Knight, I think the curtain has already been brought down on that story and while I wouldn't have any big problems with Bale returning as Batman, it wouldn't feel quite right given that he's pretty much hung up the cape for good after TDKR.
9:59AM on 06/14/2013
@jeff well in that trilogy bruce retired and is in his forties and i dont want a batman that isnt bruce wayne in the justice league movie. i also dont think we need a new batman movie to establish him before justice league. id like to think at the time man of steel takes place, a young bruce wayne is out at night taking back his city as the batman but to most people he is still considered a myth.
@jeff well in that trilogy bruce retired and is in his forties and i dont want a batman that isnt bruce wayne in the justice league movie. i also dont think we need a new batman movie to establish him before justice league. id like to think at the time man of steel takes place, a young bruce wayne is out at night taking back his city as the batman but to most people he is still considered a myth.
10:08AM on 06/14/2013
@Coremax: I agree.
@Coremax: I agree.
10:14AM on 06/14/2013
Ironman was made realistic, but not grounded in reality, they just made his armor explainable, and Ironman was where we first found about about Avengers, Dark Knight was never building to anything more than a stand alone series and should be left as such or else we would never see the Joker again or Ra's or Bane, time for a fresh start and take, Nolans character never could exist with the other heroes
Ironman was made realistic, but not grounded in reality, they just made his armor explainable, and Ironman was where we first found about about Avengers, Dark Knight was never building to anything more than a stand alone series and should be left as such or else we would never see the Joker again or Ra's or Bane, time for a fresh start and take, Nolans character never could exist with the other heroes
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