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Simon Kinberg says Fox wants to make a "brighter" Fantastic Four sequel

05.13.2016

Given the misfortune that is Josh Trank's FANTASTIC FOUR movie, I know fans have been lobbying for some sort of deal to be worked out between Marvel and 20th Century Fox (a la Spider-Man). Well, thanks to DEADPOOL and X-MEN, I don't really see that happening anytime soon, but uber-producer Simon Kinberg seems to feel that Fox is still on-board with their newly-created FANTASTIC FOUR universe. Before we start with the groans, Den of Geek recently spoke with Kinberg who stated that IF a sequel gets the green light, it will be much different in tone from the original.

Simon Kinberg on Josh Trank's FANTASTIC FOUR:

We didn't make a good movie,” Kinberg said, “and the world voted, and I think they probably voted correctly. And you can't make a good movie every time out - not everybody does. We actually have a pretty good batting average, all things considered. But I think we made many mistakes when we made that movie - mistakes that we learned from and we wouldn't repeat.

On plans for a FANTASTIC FOUR sequel:

We want to make another Fantastic Four movie. We love that cast - I mean if I were to say to you now Michael B Jordan and Miles Teller, and Kate [Mara] and Jamie [Bell] are great actors - we love that cast. I love the comic, I mean I love it almost as much as X-Men.

We'll try to be truer to the essence of the tone of Fantastic Four, which is completely - well, not completely, but largely - distinct from the X-Men, which is brighter, funner, more optimistic tone. I think we tried to make a darker Fantastic Four movie, which seemed like a radical idea but we were kind of messing with the DNA of the actual comic instead of trusting the DNA of the comic.

We're working really hard on figuring that out. Nothing would make me happier than the world embracing a Fantastic Four movie.

I actually really liked the cast of Trank's FOUR, so if an entirely new creative voice can be brought in to craft a solid, stand-alone story that's NOT an origin, I'm all for it! Don't get me wrong, though. If Marvel were to get their hands back on more of their properties, I'd be all for it. I don't see it happening any time soon, but then again, I'm sure most thought that about Spider-Man, so who knows?!

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11:37PM on 05/14/2016
They made two 'brighter' Fantastic Four movie already. I could even go so far to say that it was pretty much on par with Thor, had they not miscast Jessica Alba and made Ben Grimm look like a dried up orange turd.
They made two 'brighter' Fantastic Four movie already. I could even go so far to say that it was pretty much on par with Thor, had they not miscast Jessica Alba and made Ben Grimm look like a dried up orange turd.
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5:35AM on 05/14/2016
He said "we" a lot in those quotes, kinda bugs me. Anyway it was10 years between the release of Daredevil and when Fox lost the film rights to Marvel, so not holding my breath here.
He said "we" a lot in those quotes, kinda bugs me. Anyway it was10 years between the release of Daredevil and when Fox lost the film rights to Marvel, so not holding my breath here.
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4:29AM on 05/15/2016
In this case, they actually only have 7 years to get another one made. So theres still hope. N i jus dont see Fox bleeding money just to keep a dieing franchise. Somethings gotta give.
In this case, they actually only have 7 years to get another one made. So theres still hope. N i jus dont see Fox bleeding money just to keep a dieing franchise. Somethings gotta give.
12:14AM on 05/14/2016

Hey...Great!

Let's stay loyal to the source material (you know the same material that give us the FF, the Skrulls, the Kree, Ronan, Galactus, Silver Surfer, the Inhumans, the Negative Zone, etc. just for starters) and then let Marvel/Disney do it. Oh, and by the way, you can include the X-Men in that deal too.
Let's stay loyal to the source material (you know the same material that give us the FF, the Skrulls, the Kree, Ronan, Galactus, Silver Surfer, the Inhumans, the Negative Zone, etc. just for starters) and then let Marvel/Disney do it. Oh, and by the way, you can include the X-Men in that deal too.
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8:58PM on 05/13/2016
Michael B Jordan is apparently gonna be joining the MCU in the Black Panther movie, so kiss this pipe dream goodbye. Time for Fox to smarten up and make a Sony-style deal
Michael B Jordan is apparently gonna be joining the MCU in the Black Panther movie, so kiss this pipe dream goodbye. Time for Fox to smarten up and make a Sony-style deal
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7:08PM on 05/13/2016
I'm still convinced there was some behind the scenes studio sabotage going on with that film. Or at the very least Fox decided to let it roll only as a placeholder for the rights to the FF.
Fantastic Four should not be that tough a movie to get right. It's made to be self contained at first and has a huge cast of characters that can be added later. Maybe stay away from using Dr. Doom this time.
I'm still convinced there was some behind the scenes studio sabotage going on with that film. Or at the very least Fox decided to let it roll only as a placeholder for the rights to the FF.
Fantastic Four should not be that tough a movie to get right. It's made to be self contained at first and has a huge cast of characters that can be added later. Maybe stay away from using Dr. Doom this time.
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6:56PM on 05/13/2016

"You can't make a good movie every time"

Tell that to Martin Scorsese or Christopher Nolan.
Tell that to Martin Scorsese or Christopher Nolan.
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3:45PM on 05/14/2016
Tell that to The Dark Knight Rises.
Tell that to The Dark Knight Rises.
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5:02PM on 05/13/2016
I found the first FF film to be a great representation of the characters. It was light-hearted and captured the feel of the early comics perfectly. It dealt with them coming to grips with their powers and staying together as a family very well. I still don't get all the hate for it. There may have been some toying around with the source material, but it did not hurt the film as a whole. I always thought it was a fun time, and not to be taken so seriously....just like the comics themselves. If
I found the first FF film to be a great representation of the characters. It was light-hearted and captured the feel of the early comics perfectly. It dealt with them coming to grips with their powers and staying together as a family very well. I still don't get all the hate for it. There may have been some toying around with the source material, but it did not hurt the film as a whole. I always thought it was a fun time, and not to be taken so seriously....just like the comics themselves. If they can improve on that first film, then do it. If not...leave it alone.
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3:51PM on 05/13/2016

Fox has not greenlit any FF sequel

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3:12PM on 05/13/2016

Fox has not greenlit any FF sequel

What this article doesn't mention is the fact that Fox has not greenlit any FF sequel of any kind. All Kinberg was expressing was what he would like to do if given full reign on making one. X-Men Apocalypse will need to be a runaway hit for talk of FF sequel to even take place.
What this article doesn't mention is the fact that Fox has not greenlit any FF sequel of any kind. All Kinberg was expressing was what he would like to do if given full reign on making one. X-Men Apocalypse will need to be a runaway hit for talk of FF sequel to even take place.
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3:12PM on 05/13/2016

They never going to get it right

I got friends who eat and sleep comic books, and they broke it down for me! First, why add a black dude, and change the dynamic of the family structure! Just stupid. Both FF lacked so many issues! Sit down with Marvel and figure it out that way, folks!
I got friends who eat and sleep comic books, and they broke it down for me! First, why add a black dude, and change the dynamic of the family structure! Just stupid. Both FF lacked so many issues! Sit down with Marvel and figure it out that way, folks!
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3:11PM on 05/13/2016

No

Didn't Fox already make two happier FF movies? So three movies in, they cannot get the tone or story right and they want to try a fourth time? I would like those chances at my job when i mess up over and over...which i don't! No to this idea. I will just wait for the day when they wise up and sell FF back to Marvel.
Didn't Fox already make two happier FF movies? So three movies in, they cannot get the tone or story right and they want to try a fourth time? I would like those chances at my job when i mess up over and over...which i don't! No to this idea. I will just wait for the day when they wise up and sell FF back to Marvel.
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3:02PM on 05/13/2016
HAhaha, they have a pretty good batting average with Fantastic Four? I think they're 0/3 on Fantastic Four movies at this point. Regardless, I doubt after the failure that was FF, they can get back any of that cast. I'm sure they all want to distance themselves as much as possible from those roles.

And honestly, I'm not sure why they're having so much trouble figuring out a good Fantastic Four movie. I'm not a huge fan of the comics, but once you get past the origin story and have them
HAhaha, they have a pretty good batting average with Fantastic Four? I think they're 0/3 on Fantastic Four movies at this point. Regardless, I doubt after the failure that was FF, they can get back any of that cast. I'm sure they all want to distance themselves as much as possible from those roles.

And honestly, I'm not sure why they're having so much trouble figuring out a good Fantastic Four movie. I'm not a huge fan of the comics, but once you get past the origin story and have them established with powers, all the stories are really just sci-fi adventure stories. The twist is that the characters happen to have super powers. There is so much they can do with that as oppose to giving us a rehash of superheroes trying to save the world with a final showdown in Manhattan.
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2:11PM on 05/13/2016

A good batting average ?

You guys have had three chances on making a good FF movie, if you know anything about baseball, you've struck out.
You guys have had three chances on making a good FF movie, if you know anything about baseball, you've struck out.
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2:03PM on 05/13/2016
You know who boned it? Fox executives! If they had given them the money to produce the original script as written we would have had a pretty good FF movie. There were glimpses of that original script in the first third of the finished movie, but it went off the rails when they confined the team to the laboratory for the entire movie.
You know who boned it? Fox executives! If they had given them the money to produce the original script as written we would have had a pretty good FF movie. There were glimpses of that original script in the first third of the finished movie, but it went off the rails when they confined the team to the laboratory for the entire movie.
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2:00PM on 05/13/2016

F4 wasn't as bad as everyone on the Bandwagon wants you to think it was.

Despite the movie's shortcomings, I enjoyed this new interpretation of the Fantastic Four. I loved the fact that they were trying to deal with these mutations in a more realistic/plausible way. They would be frightened, they would be lonely and you bet your ass the military complex would love to get their hands on them. I'm pumped to see where they take these new characters. Looking forward to the next one.
Despite the movie's shortcomings, I enjoyed this new interpretation of the Fantastic Four. I loved the fact that they were trying to deal with these mutations in a more realistic/plausible way. They would be frightened, they would be lonely and you bet your ass the military complex would love to get their hands on them. I'm pumped to see where they take these new characters. Looking forward to the next one.
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1:32PM on 05/13/2016

It was too dark

It was just plain bad. From the writing all the way to the choppy editing. I was hoping Fox to announce a partnership with Marvel, similar to Spider-Man, that way they can get some guidance on what to do with the characters. Simon's comments about making the franchise more lighthearted shouldn't be confused with too comedic. If he doesn't remember correctly, the few "mistakes" they made also included Story's two FF movies.
It was just plain bad. From the writing all the way to the choppy editing. I was hoping Fox to announce a partnership with Marvel, similar to Spider-Man, that way they can get some guidance on what to do with the characters. Simon's comments about making the franchise more lighthearted shouldn't be confused with too comedic. If he doesn't remember correctly, the few "mistakes" they made also included Story's two FF movies.
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1:29PM on 05/13/2016
Like Spider-Man, just give the rights back to Marvel. If no one gave a shit about the first one, why would people show up for the second???
Like Spider-Man, just give the rights back to Marvel. If no one gave a shit about the first one, why would people show up for the second???
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1:28PM on 05/13/2016
Fox... Come on, you guys... Just STOP IT. STOP. Realize you have no clue how to handle the property, make a deal with Marvel so they can make what will be the best and most successful Fantastic Four movie and you can share profits or whatever, and leave it alone. For your sake, for our sake. Please.
Fox... Come on, you guys... Just STOP IT. STOP. Realize you have no clue how to handle the property, make a deal with Marvel so they can make what will be the best and most successful Fantastic Four movie and you can share profits or whatever, and leave it alone. For your sake, for our sake. Please.
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1:24PM on 05/13/2016

They didn't listen to the fan the first time!

That's why they fucked up. Just give it back to Marvel and go work on another X-Film. Maybe X-Force? Generation X? Help out with New Mutants?
That's why they fucked up. Just give it back to Marvel and go work on another X-Film. Maybe X-Force? Generation X? Help out with New Mutants?
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1:23PM on 05/13/2016

You can run but you can't hide!

Brighter? They've already done that with the earlier versions. Just give up Fox. Or make it a animated feature.
Brighter? They've already done that with the earlier versions. Just give up Fox. Or make it a animated feature.
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1:13PM on 05/13/2016
I thought hell would freeze over before Marvel got Spiderman back. He was the last one I expected, so who know
I thought hell would freeze over before Marvel got Spiderman back. He was the last one I expected, so who know
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1:12PM on 05/13/2016
I assume by "brighter" they mean their next crappy movie will take place during the day
I assume by "brighter" they mean their next crappy movie will take place during the day
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