Face-Off: Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan vs. Halloween 5

Last Updated on October 12, 2021

1989 was not a great year for our horror icons. Freddy Krueger got A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET: THE DREAM CHILD, which I may have given the win over SHOCKER in the previous Face-Off (you can read that HERE) but I still find to be a subpar ELM STREET movie. Jason Voorhees got FRIDAY THE 13TH PART VIII: JASON TAKES MANHATTAN, Michael Myers got HALLOWEEN 5 – clearly the slasher sub-genre was running out of steam as the '80s came to an end. But as disappointing as these movies may have been, they're still watched and loved to this day because they're entries in some of our favorite franchises, featuring some of our favorite characters. So to celebrate the 30th anniversary of JASON TAKES MANHATTAN and HALLOWEEN 5, I decided to put these underwhelming slashfests against each other and see which one is the better of the bad.

PSYCHIC HEROINE

The previous FRIDAY THE 13TH featured a heroine who saw psychic visions and had telekinetic abilities. Take away the telekinesis and anything that made that character interesting and what you'd be left with is JASON TAKES MANHATTAN heroine Rennie, who apparently has a psychic connection to Jason – and only to Jason – because he touched her foot in Crystal Lake when she was a little kid. Or something like that. A milquetoast character who walks around like she's in a daze even before she gets shot up with illegal drugs, Rennie has visions of Jason throughout that make little to no sense. She sees a young kid asking for help, and with each vision the kid becomes more disfigured and loses hair, gradually becoming the young Jason we recognize. Rennie is cardboard bland and her psychic ability is nonsensical.

There were indications in HALLOWEEN 4 that slasher Michael Myers' young niece Jamie Lloyd had some kind of psychic connection to him. She had nightmares about him, saw a young Michael staring back at her from a mirror, and stabbed her foster mother while in trance. So it's no surprise to find that Jamie has an even stronger psychic connection to Michael in HALLOWEEN 5. Now a patient in a children's clinic and mute since the stabbing incident, Jamie is able to see the world through Michael's eyes as he once again stalks the streets of Haddonfield, Illinois. It's terrifying for her to watch as Michael kills people, but she also uses this ability to try to help stop him. She struggles to warn people where Michael is and what he's doing, and when nothing else works she puts herself in danger to get the job done. She's a kid, but she's a great heroine.

ICONIC SLASHER

Kane Hodder blew minds when he took on the role of a rotten, battle-damaged Jason in part 7. His performance went over so well that he became the first Jason actor to come back for a second movie here… but while Hodder's performance is fine enough is this follow-up, the iteration of the character isn't nearly as cool. Dripping slime and sporting a yellowed mask, Jason spends a lot of time in this one just breathing heavily in confined spaces. He does get to do some memorable things toward the end, like standing in Times Square and pursuing characters through subway cars and sewer tunnels, but overall I find the presentation of Jason to be lacking in part 8.

The worst thing about Michael Myers in this film is his mask, which is in the running for being the worst mask in the series. Made by combining molds of the faces of special effects artist Greg Nicotero and Michael actor Don Shanks, it just doesn't look right. Despite what he's wearing on his head, Don Shanks turns in a solid performance as Michael, who is presented as being the methodical force of evil we know him to be. He lurks and stalks, taking his time, waiting for the perfect moment to strike. When he does strike, it's quick and brutal. But there's some humanity left beneath the evil, as we see when Jamie gets him to take his mask off and he sheds a tear.

KILLS

Given that the MPAA had just eviscerated the previous F13, it's no surprise to find that most of the kills in this one are quite tame. There are simple stabbings, a strangulation, a bloodless throat slitting, a drowning, off screen impacts. Although most of the kills aren't anything special, there are still 20 kills in the movie… and there are a couple standouts. The sauna rock isn't that impressive, but it's something different. A criminal gets impaled with a syringe. And there is one of the greatest kills in the entire series when Jason knocks a person's head off with one punch.

Michael Myers only scored 5 kills in the first HALLOWEEN, but in this one he gets more than twice that – while falling short of his HALLOWEEN 4 score. Several of the kills here are the standard knifings, but Michael does switch it up here and there. We get to see a garden claw smack into a guy's face, there's a cool pitchfork impalement, and the swing of a scythe provides a nice moment. There are also some off screen kills, a beating, and a hanging before the body count is padded out with the arrival of a mysterious figure with a machine gun. Hey, this is supposed to be a slasher! That's cheating!

TONE

JASON TAKES MANHATTAN takes itself more seriously than you might expect, especially given the title and the fact that this is the eighth film in a franchise. The film is going for straightforward scares and creeps when Jason is stalking through the halls of a cruise ship and the heroine is having nightmarish visions. Once the film finally reaches Manhattan, it lightens up and has some fun with the scenario – Jason tilts his head looking at a hockey billboard, New Yorkers are unfazed by the news that a homicidal maniac is on the loose, Jason scares off a group of street thugs just by lifting his mask. There are some intentional laughs to be had in the second half.

HALLOWEEN may be the most consistently serious of the major slasher franchises, and HALLOWEEN 5 tries hard to be another dark, creepy entry in the Michael Myers saga. It deals with some heavy subject matter – Michael is after a little kid; that kid sees him murdering her loved ones; she's constantly harassed by Doctor Loomis, who is on the edge of insanity himself. There are some great stalk and slash sequences and an awesome game of cat and mouse in the finale. There's also an extra level of strangeness to this one. The tone is let down by the presence of some very obnoxious characters, including a pair of cops so goofy they're accompanied by clown sound effects.

FRANCHISE OFF THE RAILS

There's something off about this movie from the moment it begins and we hear that composer Fred Mollin has replaced Harry Manfredini's iconic “ki ki ki ma ma ma” sound with a whispered repetition of the name “Jason”. Writer/director Rod Hedden proceeds to try to convince us that Crystal Lake is connected to the ocean by a river, that's the explanation for how Jason can hop on a cruise ship making its way to Manhattan. Jason “taking” Manhattan is a fun concept, the problem is the execution. The film doesn't live up to the promise of the title and it's odd to see the backwoods slasher in the big city, but worst of all is the ridiculous script that builds up to a climax that involves the Manhattan sewer system flooding with toxic waste on a nightly basis for unknown reasons. There also happen to be sealed buckets of toxic waste sitting around in the tunnels. It's like Hedden handed the scripting duties over to a kindergartener. And why the hell is Jason teleporting?

This began with a film about a dangerous escaped mental patient picking victims at random. HALLOWEEN II added in the twist that the mental patient is out to kill family members, and by now the franchise was so entrenched in that idea that a relative even has a psychic connection to the killer. That's an indication things went awry on the way to part 5. Still, it could have been better if director Dominique Othenin-Girard didn't throw in weird additions that hadn't even been thought out, like a mysterious Man in Black walking around town, sporting a tattoo that matches one Michael Myers has but we had never seen before. And what's with the hermit who takes Michael in and nurses him back to health for a year? He was a replacement for an occultist who gave that tattoo to Michael in deleted scenes, but in the finished film he's another weird element that doesn't make any sense. HALLOWEEN is a simple concept they were trying to complicate without putting thought into the complications.

JASON TAKES MANHATTAN

HALLOWEEN 5 undoubtedly has the better heroine of these two films and it has some excellent moments with its slasher, but overall the Man in Black nonsense and the annoying characters drag the film down further for me than JASON TAKES MANHATTAN is dragged down by its stupid visions and toxic waste flood. JASON TAKES MANHATTAN takes the win here despite the film being my least favorite entry in the F13 franchise… and HALLOWEEN 5 isn't even my least favorite HALLOWEEN movie. There are other films in that series that I like much less. Jason has let me down less often than Michael has.

Do you agree with the outcome of this Face-Off, or do you think HALLOWEEN 5 is better than FRIDAY THE 13TH PART VIII? Share your thoughts on these films in the comments section below… And if these aren't your least favorite entries in the franchises, what are your least favorites? (My least favorite HALLOWEEN movie is HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION.)

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About the Author

Cody is a news editor and film critic, focused on the horror arm of JoBlo.com, and writes scripts for videos that are released through the JoBlo Originals and JoBlo Horror Originals YouTube channels. In his spare time, he's a globe-trotting digital nomad, runs a personal blog called Life Between Frames, and writes novels and screenplays.