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Armenian genocide film The Promise unfairly panned on IMDb

10.27.2016

As a general rule of thumb, we here at JoBlo don't report the latest in politics or religion. We report film news, we review the movies, and we do our best to deliver content that's fun and insightful regarding the film medium. That's what we love doing and that's what we love sharing. Admittedly, sometimes that does cross over in the ever-controversial realm of politics and being that the founder of this movie fansite (Berge Garabedian aka JoBlo) is of Armenian heritage, he thought it was important to bring the following to light.

THE PROMISE is a film written and directed by Terry George (HOTEL RWANDA) that is set during the last days of the Ottoman Empire. Starring Christian Bale and Oscar Isaac, the film aims to deliver a compelling love story amidst the atrocities of the Armenian genocide which took place from 1915-1923 and resulted in the deaths of 1.5 million people. Similar to The Holocaust, there are a number of people and organizations who choose to ignore or suppress the events of the Armenian Genocide, including efforts from the Turkish government and the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

That leads us to IMDb. As of now, it looks as though there have only been 3 public screenings of THE PROMISE, one of which was at the Toronto International Film Festival (you can read our review of the film HERE). As of now, there are over 89,000 reviews on IMDb for THE PROMISE. To put that in perspective, there are only 7,000 reviews for the upcoming DOCTOR STRANGE - a movie that is far more anticipated by the general movie-going public. Furthermore, over 55,000 of those reviews are a 1-star rating.

Recognition for the Armenian Genocide has really only happened recently, and it's painfully obvious that lower ratings are being given to a film, sight unseen, in order to suppress or sully a story that's looking to shed some light on our past. There's nothing wrong with disliking a film for what it is (we didn't exactly think it was SCHINDLER'S LIST) but this kind of agenda gives us some insight into how flawed a ratings system can be, and to what lengths people will go to in order to take advantage of it. At the end of the day, as with everything else, it's important for people to do their own research and think for themselves. We can't improve as a people if we don't acknowledge everything that's come before, and if there's any silver lining to be found with this ratings fiasco, it's that it will educate more people on the events that occurred.

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2:45AM on 10/31/2016
Maybe it's just a shit film. The subject matter could be really important to a group of people, but its the movie that's being reviewed, not the genocide. Blaming IMDB for a film's possible craptitude is hardly fair.
Maybe it's just a shit film. The subject matter could be really important to a group of people, but its the movie that's being reviewed, not the genocide. Blaming IMDB for a film's possible craptitude is hardly fair.
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12:51AM on 10/30/2016
Mel Gibson was right
Mel Gibson was right
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1:37PM on 10/28/2016
What about the 32206 reviews that has voted a 10-star rating? That seems also faked to me!
What about the 32206 reviews that has voted a 10-star rating? That seems also faked to me!
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10:59PM on 10/27/2016

my views on the Armenian Genocide are very polarizing....

At that time in the history of this world, there [link] look, a dr. strange review. gotta go.
At that time in the history of this world, there [link] look, a dr. strange review. gotta go.
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4:43PM on 10/27/2016
No one cares about the so call "Armenian genocide" It's buried in the past with All of the other genocides like ones in Congo and Khmer Rouge regime. The only people that act like they care are the Kardashians and even they are only doing it for television. Why fuss over ratings when in reality maybe this movie just plain horrible. Story is uninteresting and acting is horrendous. Cry about something else like these stupid Star Wars or Comic book movies because no one gives a damn about Movies
No one cares about the so call "Armenian genocide" It's buried in the past with All of the other genocides like ones in Congo and Khmer Rouge regime. The only people that act like they care are the Kardashians and even they are only doing it for television. Why fuss over ratings when in reality maybe this movie just plain horrible. Story is uninteresting and acting is horrendous. Cry about something else like these stupid Star Wars or Comic book movies because no one gives a damn about Movies regarding Armenians. Do you guys even know where this place is at? Because I for one don't give a f
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11:11PM on 10/27/2016
I never thought I would defend the Kardashians. They are ARMENIAN. It's their HERITAGE. Granted, the movie doesn't sound great. But if JoBlo HIMSELF can get worked up over this, then why not the Kardashians?
I never thought I would defend the Kardashians. They are ARMENIAN. It's their HERITAGE. Granted, the movie doesn't sound great. But if JoBlo HIMSELF can get worked up over this, then why not the Kardashians?
2:21AM on 10/28/2016
Lots of people care about this. My fiancée is half Armenian and almost her entire family was killed in the genocide on the Armenian side. Only one man got out and he married an Irish woman. My fiancée wouldn't exist if he did not escape. So maybe think before you type such an ignorant thing you fascist scumbag.
Lots of people care about this. My fiancée is half Armenian and almost her entire family was killed in the genocide on the Armenian side. Only one man got out and he married an Irish woman. My fiancée wouldn't exist if he did not escape. So maybe think before you type such an ignorant thing you fascist scumbag.
10:41AM on 10/28/2016
You don't have to be Armenian to care about Armenians or just be curious about history. I don't know if you're as ignorant as your comment suggests or if you're just a nice guy trying to sound tough but man, what you wrote was just disrespectful and distasteful. Do yourself a favor next time and at least try to sound like you're smart.
You don't have to be Armenian to care about Armenians or just be curious about history. I don't know if you're as ignorant as your comment suggests or if you're just a nice guy trying to sound tough but man, what you wrote was just disrespectful and distasteful. Do yourself a favor next time and at least try to sound like you're smart.
3:28PM on 10/27/2016
My way to protest this attempt at suppressing the film is to rent it. Pay for it with my money. Give it a fair viewing. Not sure I'll make it to the theater to see it though. There are other films i'd rather spend theater money to see.
My way to protest this attempt at suppressing the film is to rent it. Pay for it with my money. Give it a fair viewing. Not sure I'll make it to the theater to see it though. There are other films i'd rather spend theater money to see.
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3:24PM on 10/27/2016
This shit has been going on at IMDB for over a decade now and everyone knows it. That site is infested with sockpuppet accounts (most sites are to a certain extent, even here). Some people on IMDB even claim to have over 100 usernames, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of them all.
This shit has been going on at IMDB for over a decade now and everyone knows it. That site is infested with sockpuppet accounts (most sites are to a certain extent, even here). Some people on IMDB even claim to have over 100 usernames, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of them all.
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2:46PM on 10/27/2016

Truly sad


Totally sad attempt to bury this movie... see below article for more details....it's almost all male votes and they are all either 1 star or 10 star....totally fabricated numbers

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Totally sad attempt to bury this movie... see below article for more details....it's almost all male votes and they are all either 1 star or 10 star....totally fabricated numbers

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2:36PM on 10/27/2016
Being a World History Teacher, and someone who during my education spent considerable amount of time learning the history of the Middle East, this does not surprise me. This has been a moment of history that has been repressed for a very long time, and as stated above, openly rejected and denied by the participating parties (Turkey). If anything, this just shows the importance of a film like this because it is bringing into light events in history which doesn't get much attention.

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Being a World History Teacher, and someone who during my education spent considerable amount of time learning the history of the Middle East, this does not surprise me. This has been a moment of history that has been repressed for a very long time, and as stated above, openly rejected and denied by the participating parties (Turkey). If anything, this just shows the importance of a film like this because it is bringing into light events in history which doesn't get much attention.

The Holocaust was, and has been, a subject of numerous films, books, TV episodes, etc and the Armenian Genocide has never really received the same attention. Maybe it is because of the numbers (millions compared to hundreds of thousands), but it was the denial and lack of attention to the Armenian Genocide which gave Hitler his justification for his treatment of Poles during WWII. As stated, "Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formations in readiness - for the present only in the East - with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

History is a living thing with very real consequences and kudos to Terry George for choosing to make this film and thank you JoBlo for bringing up this very issue. I will be using this as a prime example of how politics affects Hollywood in my World History in Film class I teach.
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2:03PM on 10/27/2016
Define recently? And anything that can be summed up with a love story set during genocide, does feel a little iffy
Define recently? And anything that can be summed up with a love story set during genocide, does feel a little iffy
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1:58PM on 10/27/2016
Of course is panned it displays an atrocity committed by "the religion of peace." That's a big no in this day and age.
Of course is panned it displays an atrocity committed by "the religion of peace." That's a big no in this day and age.
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11:02PM on 10/27/2016
The amount of ignorance in that statement is shattering. We're talking about systemic denial of a hundred-year-old atrocity, that goes beyond flavor-of-the-month religious politics.
The amount of ignorance in that statement is shattering. We're talking about systemic denial of a hundred-year-old atrocity, that goes beyond flavor-of-the-month religious politics.
1:33PM on 10/27/2016
I can only imagine the websites out there boycotting this film.
I can only imagine the websites out there boycotting this film.
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1:26PM on 10/27/2016

What if it's just really bad though??

Just a thought, the movie could just suck.
Just a thought, the movie could just suck.
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1:57PM on 10/27/2016
"As of now, it looks as though there have only been 3 public screenings of THE PROMISE, one of which was at the Toronto International Film Festival (you can read our review of the film HERE). As of now, there are over 89,000 reviews on IMDb for THE PROMISE."

While I can't speak to the quality of the film, having not seen it, I highly doubt that even 50k of those reviews are from ppl who actually have seen it.
"As of now, it looks as though there have only been 3 public screenings of THE PROMISE, one of which was at the Toronto International Film Festival (you can read our review of the film HERE). As of now, there are over 89,000 reviews on IMDb for THE PROMISE."

While I can't speak to the quality of the film, having not seen it, I highly doubt that even 50k of those reviews are from ppl who actually have seen it.
2:01PM on 10/27/2016
It could, but a hundred thousand people haven't seen it yet
It could, but a hundred thousand people haven't seen it yet
1:17PM on 10/27/2016
Who really takes IMDB seriously at this point, anyway???

Regardless, it still looks like a very good film.
Who really takes IMDB seriously at this point, anyway???

Regardless, it still looks like a very good film.
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2:02PM on 10/27/2016
At this point or ever?
At this point or ever?
1:15PM on 10/27/2016

Wow

Voted Red just because this is an unfortunate story

For me I can not wait to PURCHASE this movie on Bluray, DVD and Digital just to show my support
Voted Red just because this is an unfortunate story

For me I can not wait to PURCHASE this movie on Bluray, DVD and Digital just to show my support
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5:31PM on 10/27/2016
Once a long time ago someone did something mean to one of my ancestors. Will you help me with a large donation? You know just to show your support?
Once a long time ago someone did something mean to one of my ancestors. Will you help me with a large donation? You know just to show your support?
6:34PM on 10/27/2016
If you make a movie about it
If you make a movie about it
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