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Batman 3's main villain may in fact be The Riddler

07.21.2010by:
Before INCEPTION, most of the news coming down the pike in regards to BATMAN 3 was to be taken with HUGE doses of salt. That included speculative rumors of who The Dark Knight would be doing battle with in what's arguably the most anticipated sequel in the game right now.

But after INCEPTION? Now the wheels are going to be really turning at Warner Bros. and movie news outlets will likely be privy to better-sourced information as a result.

Case in point: FirstShowing.net has gotten word from a reliable inside source with access to a studio casting grid that The Riddler is in fact listed as a character in the impending comic book movie sequel. Here's FirstShowing.net with more:

"Even more interesting, the actor currently listed in the same grid to play the assumed villain is none other than Joseph Gordon-Levitt, whose status is just listed as 'interested.'"

"What the heck is a 'studio casting grid'?" you might be wondering. Basically, a studio casting grid is a document with data pertaining to the roles in a project, possible actors for those roles, and other information regarding the progress of a project. These are primarily used for business planning amongst production companies and agencies in the industry.

Like FirstShowing, I'll be quick to point out that this does not mean Joseph Gordon-Levitt is The Riddler. But, this is likely indication that the actor will probably be up for the role (amongst others), and even more likely that The Riddler will be the film's prime villain.

You can read more of what FirstShowing has to say RIGHT HERE.
Extra Tidbit: I kinda feel Cillian Murphy would've made a great Edward Nigma, but it's obviously a little late for that...

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3:18PM on 07/23/2010

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they are indeed filming B3 starting next spring, then we'll probably get official casting news as early as September...November at the latest. It's really not that far off. A title announcement at Comic Con would be a little surprising, but possible.
they are indeed filming B3 starting next spring, then we'll probably get official casting news as early as September...November at the latest. It's really not that far off. A title announcement at Comic Con would be a little surprising, but possible.
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9:35AM on 07/23/2010
For Docktor Decker...have a little faith man! Wat ever direction in story or casting Nolan takes im sure the 3rd Batman movie will be fantastic...remember those doubters about casting the late great Heath Ledger??(yeah u know who u r.lol) Might get a thumbs down 4 this, but i think he should kill Batman off in his last movie..bit cold i know.
For Docktor Decker...have a little faith man! Wat ever direction in story or casting Nolan takes im sure the 3rd Batman movie will be fantastic...remember those doubters about casting the late great Heath Ledger??(yeah u know who u r.lol) Might get a thumbs down 4 this, but i think he should kill Batman off in his last movie..bit cold i know.
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7:59PM on 07/22/2010
Riddler is the next closest thing Batman has to the joker, the studio probably want Riddler because of this. Although from a Nolanverse standpoint, where they're trying to be realistic, their can't be that many more villains they could go with. They could try Catwoman, but with the major flop that the movie was, I doubt the studio would let Nolan put her in.
Riddler is the next closest thing Batman has to the joker, the studio probably want Riddler because of this. Although from a Nolanverse standpoint, where they're trying to be realistic, their can't be that many more villains they could go with. They could try Catwoman, but with the major flop that the movie was, I doubt the studio would let Nolan put her in.
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3:04PM on 07/22/2010
For once, Nolan's team will fail if they go with the Riddler.
For once, Nolan's team will fail if they go with the Riddler.
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2:52PM on 07/22/2010
Sounds good. He was in "10 things I hate about you" with Heath. Now there has to be a new female lead next, and please make it Catwoman [or even Harley Quinn] and not one that's made only for the film like Rachel was.

Will they continue the 10 Thing I hate about you thing and cast Julia Stiles as Catwoman? haha jk. I want Eliza Dushku.
Sounds good. He was in "10 things I hate about you" with Heath. Now there has to be a new female lead next, and please make it Catwoman [or even Harley Quinn] and not one that's made only for the film like Rachel was.

Will they continue the 10 Thing I hate about you thing and cast Julia Stiles as Catwoman? haha jk. I want Eliza Dushku.
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1:51PM on 07/22/2010

???

So I guess they just gave J. Depp a big F**K OFF! huh? I agree with Huttjos(??? wtf?) that JGL is a fine actor but not for this role.
So I guess they just gave J. Depp a big F**K OFF! huh? I agree with Huttjos(??? wtf?) that JGL is a fine actor but not for this role.
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9:55AM on 07/22/2010
Hope this isn't true. Gordon-Levitt is no Heath Ledger, and The Riddler pales next to the Joker. Catwoman, please.
Hope this isn't true. Gordon-Levitt is no Heath Ledger, and The Riddler pales next to the Joker. Catwoman, please.
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8:26AM on 07/22/2010
There is no doubt I think JGL is a great actor- 'The Lookout' is one of my top 10. But I'm not sure how I feel about him as The Joker or as a lead villain for the third Batman film. I think Joseph Gordon would be an exceptional ROBIN(?)
There is no doubt I think JGL is a great actor- 'The Lookout' is one of my top 10. But I'm not sure how I feel about him as The Joker or as a lead villain for the third Batman film. I think Joseph Gordon would be an exceptional ROBIN(?)
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7:36AM on 07/22/2010

Change in Direction

I had mentioned before that i was in support of Robin Williams taking up a role like this for a few reasons but I think perhaps the most important thing that Nolan and Co. should be focusing on now is to try and make Batman 3 as different of a film as TDK as possible. If they try to out-TDK TDK they will fail, if only for the reason that fans loved Heath and its amazing the way it is. Once you try to take the same formula and do it over again it will inevitably remind people that it ISNT TDK.
I had mentioned before that i was in support of Robin Williams taking up a role like this for a few reasons but I think perhaps the most important thing that Nolan and Co. should be focusing on now is to try and make Batman 3 as different of a film as TDK as possible. If they try to out-TDK TDK they will fail, if only for the reason that fans loved Heath and its amazing the way it is. Once you try to take the same formula and do it over again it will inevitably remind people that it ISNT TDK.
So in other words I really feel that the success to this film's villain lies in trying to create a villain that is NOT the joker. The Joker was entertaining because he was charismatic and in your face, we need a character thats grabs the audience because he scares them, ala Hannibal Lecter. And I have faith that Nolan could get that kind of performance out of Williams, or someone like him.
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6:21AM on 07/22/2010

My take on the Riddler

Riddler is a good choice for a villian if the story would be done right. In my opinion they should have the Riddler as a narcissistic serial killer picking apart Gotham one riddle at a time. Much like the Joker except exercising more caution.
The one riddle that keeps him awake day in day out is the true identity of Batman. Eventually he finds out and enlists the help of none other than Harvey Dent, who lived, and is now obsessed with destroying Wayne/Batman. Batman may be indestructible, but
Riddler is a good choice for a villian if the story would be done right. In my opinion they should have the Riddler as a narcissistic serial killer picking apart Gotham one riddle at a time. Much like the Joker except exercising more caution.
The one riddle that keeps him awake day in day out is the true identity of Batman. Eventually he finds out and enlists the help of none other than Harvey Dent, who lived, and is now obsessed with destroying Wayne/Batman. Batman may be indestructible, but Wayne,
he can bleed.. So they attack his personal life, killing Alfred in the process. Batman, now a hunted vigilante, is no longer safe, both day or night.
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5:18AM on 07/22/2010

Why the Riddler???

I dont know whether to believe this, not that JGL would be a bad choice for the Riddler but just that the Riddler would be a bad choice for a villain!
With the way the Joker was portrayed in "The Dark Knight" it would be stupid to use the Riddler as the characters would appear far too similar, also I remember hearing something months ago on how Chris Nolan was going to try and do a villain that had not yet been brought to the screen.
I think Catwoman would be an equally hideous idea, Nolans
I dont know whether to believe this, not that JGL would be a bad choice for the Riddler but just that the Riddler would be a bad choice for a villain!
With the way the Joker was portrayed in "The Dark Knight" it would be stupid to use the Riddler as the characters would appear far too similar, also I remember hearing something months ago on how Chris Nolan was going to try and do a villain that had not yet been brought to the screen.
I think Catwoman would be an equally hideous idea, Nolans films are rooted in reality (mostly) I think the addition of catwoman would not only overcomplicate things but also make it unbelievable.
I think taking elements from the "Knighfall" storyline would be the best route to go down, Batman outwitted the Joker who tested him mentally, Bane could be a idea because he could test Batman both mentally and physically!
People need to get over Bale's bat-voice aswell, it was two years ago and I cant understand why Bale decided to do it in that way!
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5:01AM on 07/22/2010
It would make perfect sense, especially after the crazed puzzle known as Inception, to have The Riddler as the main villain. Also, you gotta give Michael Fassbender some space on that "grid"...that dude would be dope.
It would make perfect sense, especially after the crazed puzzle known as Inception, to have The Riddler as the main villain. Also, you gotta give Michael Fassbender some space on that "grid"...that dude would be dope.
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3:16AM on 07/22/2010
I'd like to see Nolan's take on Catwoman.
I'd like to see Nolan's take on Catwoman.
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12:51AM on 07/22/2010

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I like JGL, but i really think RW as a serious riddler would be really great. They just got to make him look a buit younger which i think is more beliavble than JGL who would look to young and making him look older could turn out bad.
I like JGL, but i really think RW as a serious riddler would be really great. They just got to make him look a buit younger which i think is more beliavble than JGL who would look to young and making him look older could turn out bad.
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12:35AM on 07/22/2010
What are you people on about?!? Neil patrick Harris is the only choice for The Riddler [link]
What are you people on about?!? Neil patrick Harris is the only choice for The Riddler [link]
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12:02AM on 07/22/2010
Why does it have to be The Riddler? Couldn't we get Bane or Killer Croc for Christ's sake?
Why does it have to be The Riddler? Couldn't we get Bane or Killer Croc for Christ's sake?
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11:48PM on 07/21/2010

we need BANE

I wouldn't mind this, but Bane has always been my favorite, and the most dangerous, Batman villain. The only way to outdo what Joker accomplished in Dark Knight is to have Bane involved
I wouldn't mind this, but Bane has always been my favorite, and the most dangerous, Batman villain. The only way to outdo what Joker accomplished in Dark Knight is to have Bane involved
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10:38PM on 07/21/2010

BULLSHIT

probably anyways!...Nolan was never one to please the fanboys...at least I'll believe it when I see it...might be cool though
probably anyways!...Nolan was never one to please the fanboys...at least I'll believe it when I see it...might be cool though
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10:35PM on 07/21/2010
i think he'd do well, i just hope bale lays off 'the voice' when hes playing batman. it wasnt that it was hard to understand, more that it felt out of place, and that he was eating dish scrubbers and sand for breakfast
i think he'd do well, i just hope bale lays off 'the voice' when hes playing batman. it wasnt that it was hard to understand, more that it felt out of place, and that he was eating dish scrubbers and sand for breakfast
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9:04PM on 07/21/2010
I trust Chris Nolan a lot. I like Levitt. But id rather see someone else play The Riddler like Viggo Mortensen!
I trust Chris Nolan a lot. I like Levitt. But id rather see someone else play The Riddler like Viggo Mortensen!
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8:10PM on 07/21/2010
IF? this turns out to be a sure thing? I'm fine w/ Gordon-Levitt! good actor and person,so it would seem. Crispin Glover would be my pick..but,alas,I'm not casting.
IF? this turns out to be a sure thing? I'm fine w/ Gordon-Levitt! good actor and person,so it would seem. Crispin Glover would be my pick..but,alas,I'm not casting.
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8:09PM on 07/21/2010

Michael C. Hall please.

I love Joseph Gordon-Levitt, but I would rather see him eventually take over the role of The Joker. He's an amazing actor and bares an uncanny resemblance to Heath Ledger. I know the third is Nolan's last, and most likely Bale's(both accounts are unfortunate) but it's ridiculous to think the franchise won't continue, and it can't without The Joker. I would love to see Michael C. Hall as The Riddler. I know he'd be perfect.
I love Joseph Gordon-Levitt, but I would rather see him eventually take over the role of The Joker. He's an amazing actor and bares an uncanny resemblance to Heath Ledger. I know the third is Nolan's last, and most likely Bale's(both accounts are unfortunate) but it's ridiculous to think the franchise won't continue, and it can't without The Joker. I would love to see Michael C. Hall as The Riddler. I know he'd be perfect.
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7:41PM on 07/21/2010
I know I might get thumbs down for this too but am I the only who can see William Dafoe as the riddler.
I know I might get thumbs down for this too but am I the only who can see William Dafoe as the riddler.
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7:37PM on 07/21/2010

Seriously though...

Are the dogs gonna be back in part 3? Did he upgrade his suit finally? I hope Riddler doesn't get wind of that bit of information.
Are the dogs gonna be back in part 3? Did he upgrade his suit finally? I hope Riddler doesn't get wind of that bit of information.
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7:19PM on 07/21/2010

Michael Emerson

Not gonna quit on this one.

JGL is awesome, but just because he's a hot name right now and he's worked with Nolan doesn't necessarily mean he's the "right" choice for the role.
Not gonna quit on this one.

JGL is awesome, but just because he's a hot name right now and he's worked with Nolan doesn't necessarily mean he's the "right" choice for the role.
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7:18PM on 07/21/2010

The Caped Crusader

I really hope they at least announce the title at Comic-Con. I'm pulling for The Caped Crusader.
I really hope they at least announce the title at Comic-Con. I'm pulling for The Caped Crusader.
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7:34PM on 07/21/2010
You took the words right out of mind. The Caped Crusader was my first choice but then I thought about it and realised naming it that might be a bit risky. My final choice is that Nolan will name it The Gotham Knight, naming it that also makes sense because Batman is considered a enemy to almost all of Gotham now.
You took the words right out of mind. The Caped Crusader was my first choice but then I thought about it and realised naming it that might be a bit risky. My final choice is that Nolan will name it The Gotham Knight, naming it that also makes sense because Batman is considered a enemy to almost all of Gotham now.
7:11PM on 07/21/2010
Man, I hope so JGL as the Riddler would be tight. I'd settle for Tom Hardy too that guy was great.
Man, I hope so JGL as the Riddler would be tight. I'd settle for Tom Hardy too that guy was great.
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7:07PM on 07/21/2010
Agreed, Ralph Fiennes as Riddler.
Agreed, Ralph Fiennes as Riddler.
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6:50PM on 07/21/2010
Too bad Malcolm McDowell isn't 30 years younger. He would've been PERFECT. But JG-L is the next best thing.
Too bad Malcolm McDowell isn't 30 years younger. He would've been PERFECT. But JG-L is the next best thing.
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6:39PM on 07/21/2010

Not too crazy

Why does everyone assume he will be like the old Riddler and that he's similar to Joker?

Nolan is probably going to make Riddler into something closer to the Zodiac killer, which is amazing to me and even darker then the first film. Plus he can have mind-bending tricks that can be pulled on Batman, similar to Inception.

Does that not sound good to anyone???
Why does everyone assume he will be like the old Riddler and that he's similar to Joker?

Nolan is probably going to make Riddler into something closer to the Zodiac killer, which is amazing to me and even darker then the first film. Plus he can have mind-bending tricks that can be pulled on Batman, similar to Inception.

Does that not sound good to anyone???
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6:35PM on 07/21/2010
There is one person from Inception I want as the Riddler, but it's not Levitt. I think Leo Dicaprio is a better pick. He seems more like Bale's (and Bruce Wayne's) equal. Let's face it, this movie is going to need some big draw if it's going to compare to The Dark Knight. I think Levitt is great, but if you get an A-lister like Dicaprio doing his first real villian role this movie would be awesome. Still, I wouldn't be disappointed if if the use another villian instead of the Riddler,
There is one person from Inception I want as the Riddler, but it's not Levitt. I think Leo Dicaprio is a better pick. He seems more like Bale's (and Bruce Wayne's) equal. Let's face it, this movie is going to need some big draw if it's going to compare to The Dark Knight. I think Levitt is great, but if you get an A-lister like Dicaprio doing his first real villian role this movie would be awesome. Still, I wouldn't be disappointed if if the use another villian instead of the Riddler, preferably one who wasn't already in a Batman film.
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6:37PM on 07/21/2010
Not going to happen, Dicaprio is so careful when it comes to picking films.

He has the best track record, doing this is too risky.
Not going to happen, Dicaprio is so careful when it comes to picking films.

He has the best track record, doing this is too risky.
7:05PM on 07/21/2010
How is starring as a lead character in one of the biggest film franchises ever with one of the best directors working today risky?
How is starring as a lead character in one of the biggest film franchises ever with one of the best directors working today risky?
5:45PM on 07/21/2010
Give us a Saw-type joker instead of a skinny sissy, please.
Give us a Saw-type joker instead of a skinny sissy, please.
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6:39PM on 07/21/2010
SAW has turned into the worst franchise, why would Nolan ever do such a thing? haha
SAW has turned into the worst franchise, why would Nolan ever do such a thing? haha
5:44PM on 07/21/2010
Joseph Gordon Levitt would be a wonderful Riddler. Problem is that a better Riddle would be Ralph Fiennes. No one seems to see this. But picture him in a Jokeresque Riddler outfit. Plus, Ralph Fiennes is a wonderful, brilliant, Academy-Award Winning actor. He can pull off "creepy". Voldermort.
Joseph Gordon Levitt would be a wonderful Riddler. Problem is that a better Riddle would be Ralph Fiennes. No one seems to see this. But picture him in a Jokeresque Riddler outfit. Plus, Ralph Fiennes is a wonderful, brilliant, Academy-Award Winning actor. He can pull off "creepy". Voldermort.
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6:24PM on 07/21/2010
Why in the world would you want anything "Jokeresque?" Any evidence of rehashing would kill this movie. It's up against the threequel curse. It's got to surpass TDK, not regurgitate it. In my opinion, that means straying AS FAR FROM anything Joker so as to not be deemed stale.

And I politely but flat-out disagree about Fiennes. I cannot see him as Riddler at all. As a gangster-type, maaaybe... He is a fantastic actor, sure, but he plays the villain far too often. It'd be way too
Why in the world would you want anything "Jokeresque?" Any evidence of rehashing would kill this movie. It's up against the threequel curse. It's got to surpass TDK, not regurgitate it. In my opinion, that means straying AS FAR FROM anything Joker so as to not be deemed stale.

And I politely but flat-out disagree about Fiennes. I cannot see him as Riddler at all. As a gangster-type, maaaybe... He is a fantastic actor, sure, but he plays the villain far too often. It'd be way too obvious a choice, I think.
10:53PM on 07/21/2010
Um, Ralph Fiennes has never won an Oscar. He's been nominated a couple times, but never won. Although I agree that he'd be a great Riddler. But, with him playing Voldemort I doubt he'll want to play another villain.
Um, Ralph Fiennes has never won an Oscar. He's been nominated a couple times, but never won. Although I agree that he'd be a great Riddler. But, with him playing Voldemort I doubt he'll want to play another villain.
5:21PM on 07/21/2010

Hmmm....

I just can't see Levitt being threatening in any way, shape or form against somebody like Bale as Batman. I mean, he's smaller and skinnier than Cillian Murphy who looked like a little wimp as Scarecrow, who's a more interesting character than the Riddler ever was. I don't know... I just never found the Riddler to be that interesting in the Batman mythology. I still think they dropped the ball by simplifying Two Face in TDK. He should have an on-going much bigger role in Nolan's series. I'd
I just can't see Levitt being threatening in any way, shape or form against somebody like Bale as Batman. I mean, he's smaller and skinnier than Cillian Murphy who looked like a little wimp as Scarecrow, who's a more interesting character than the Riddler ever was. I don't know... I just never found the Riddler to be that interesting in the Batman mythology. I still think they dropped the ball by simplifying Two Face in TDK. He should have an on-going much bigger role in Nolan's series. I'd love a cameo of Black Mask and Ventriloquist though as the new "crazy" mob bosses left in the Joker's wake.
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5:14PM on 07/21/2010
My only problem with The Riddler is that the general audience will assume that he's just like The Joker.
My only problem with The Riddler is that the general audience will assume that he's just like The Joker.
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4:56PM on 07/21/2010
Joseph Gordon-Levitt would be good, but Guy Pierce would be GREAT!!!!
Joseph Gordon-Levitt would be good, but Guy Pierce would be GREAT!!!!
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4:40PM on 07/21/2010
While I'm not a HUGE fan of the Riddler coming in post-Joker, I'm digging these ideas that he's a character hired to track down and figure out who Batman is (twisting the hero/villain dynamic).

However, I'd think it would be relatively easy to figure out Batman's identity -- that is, if Reese could do it in TDK. It'd be a cool concept if, indeed, Riddler does solve the "riddle" upfront, withholds the secret, and then tries to exploit Bruce/Batman, OR grow bored with the "who" and become
While I'm not a HUGE fan of the Riddler coming in post-Joker, I'm digging these ideas that he's a character hired to track down and figure out who Batman is (twisting the hero/villain dynamic).

However, I'd think it would be relatively easy to figure out Batman's identity -- that is, if Reese could do it in TDK. It'd be a cool concept if, indeed, Riddler does solve the "riddle" upfront, withholds the secret, and then tries to exploit Bruce/Batman, OR grow bored with the "who" and become obsessed with the "why" (as in why Bruce became Batman). Not violent or "dangerous" per se, but interesting as a lesser plot, I think.
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5:15PM on 07/21/2010
Good point, but Reese stumbled upon it because Bruce and Fox were careless at that time. Remember, later in TDK there's a scene where Bruce and Alfred are burning such evidence of Batman and any of his ties to Rachel, etc. It seemed pretty clear that by the end of TDK, Reese had been silenced and there was little if any evidence of who Batman is to be had. But yeah, if/when the Riddler discovers Batman's identity, what he does with that knowledge/power could be more interesting than simply
Good point, but Reese stumbled upon it because Bruce and Fox were careless at that time. Remember, later in TDK there's a scene where Bruce and Alfred are burning such evidence of Batman and any of his ties to Rachel, etc. It seemed pretty clear that by the end of TDK, Reese had been silenced and there was little if any evidence of who Batman is to be had. But yeah, if/when the Riddler discovers Batman's identity, what he does with that knowledge/power could be more interesting than simply trying to arrest him.
4:13PM on 07/21/2010
i'll believe it when it is made official, and not a moment before.
i'll believe it when it is made official, and not a moment before.
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4:09PM on 07/21/2010
I always thought the line in Dark Knight, "Will it defend me against dogs?" and Freeman mentions cats was a hint to Catwoman....
I always thought the line in Dark Knight, "Will it defend me against dogs?" and Freeman mentions cats was a hint to Catwoman....
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4:05PM on 07/21/2010

Edward Nigma, Federal Marshal

I LOVE the idea of turning the Batman-Villain dynamic on its ear by making The Riddler a genius Federal Marshal brought in to Gotham to find Batman. He always get his man, and he's so smart that he enjoys toying with his prey using riddles, mind games and misdirection. While Batman/Bruce is hunted by the marshal, he must work secretly with Gordon to defeat the other, villain of the film...That way there's a personal/internal threat to Bruce from Riddler as well as an external threat to Gotham
I LOVE the idea of turning the Batman-Villain dynamic on its ear by making The Riddler a genius Federal Marshal brought in to Gotham to find Batman. He always get his man, and he's so smart that he enjoys toying with his prey using riddles, mind games and misdirection. While Batman/Bruce is hunted by the marshal, he must work secretly with Gordon to defeat the other, villain of the film...That way there's a personal/internal threat to Bruce from Riddler as well as an external threat to Gotham or another person/thing Bruce cares for through the other villain.
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4:01PM on 07/21/2010

Awesome

I have one small request though. Can they give the Scarecrow a cameo where he doesn't go out like a punk? Murphy was great in Batman Begins, then his character is basically some common criminal in the next movie.
I have one small request though. Can they give the Scarecrow a cameo where he doesn't go out like a punk? Murphy was great in Batman Begins, then his character is basically some common criminal in the next movie.
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3:45PM on 07/21/2010
I'm sure it'll work. Levitt is definitely getting some cred now....

But this seems like not enough of a jump from TDK. They took a chance with Ledger's balls-out psychotic Joker, I'd like to see something new.
I'm sure it'll work. Levitt is definitely getting some cred now....

But this seems like not enough of a jump from TDK. They took a chance with Ledger's balls-out psychotic Joker, I'd like to see something new.
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3:42PM on 07/21/2010
Yes! Go Riddler, and Go Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Give the man an Oscar, I say! He's probably the only actor out there who can give Heath a run for his money!
Yes! Go Riddler, and Go Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Give the man an Oscar, I say! He's probably the only actor out there who can give Heath a run for his money!
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3:26PM on 07/21/2010
One thing I think that's been interesting about the franchise thus far, Nolan has cast, particularly for villains, actors who aren't necessarily famous for having worked with him. And he's got no problem working with the same actors again (Bale, Caine, Murphy, Watanabe, Nicky Katt). I wouldn't have thought of Cillian Murphy, Tom Wilkinson, or Heath Ledger as obvious bad guys in a Batman movie.

Levitt is pretty much on fire right now. If people didn't know him before, now they've seen him in
One thing I think that's been interesting about the franchise thus far, Nolan has cast, particularly for villains, actors who aren't necessarily famous for having worked with him. And he's got no problem working with the same actors again (Bale, Caine, Murphy, Watanabe, Nicky Katt). I wouldn't have thought of Cillian Murphy, Tom Wilkinson, or Heath Ledger as obvious bad guys in a Batman movie.

Levitt is pretty much on fire right now. If people didn't know him before, now they've seen him in Inception. He's too obvious. I think if Nolan is staying on the franchise, he'll probably pick someone people aren't betting on. Though I doubt this would happen, I think even if he went back and used his "Memento" star Guy Pearce, it would both work, and be unexpected. Again I don't think Pearce will get it, but JGL ain't Heath Ledger. And right now, I think the best thing to keep this franchise fresh is picking an actor who fans aren't thinking of (a lot of people wanted Paul Bettany or Crispin Glover for The Joker).
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3:03PM on 07/21/2010
OK, so it was obvious from The Dark Knight that Harvey Dent/Two Face would be a possible villain in the 3rd movie. So if it's true that the Riddler is going to be in it also, doesn't that seem a little too much like Batman Forever?? One of the reasons I enjoy Nolan's Batman films is that they are different from all the previous Batman films. Hope the story turns out as good as the first two.
BTW, I love Levitt for this role, I think he'd be incredible.
OK, so it was obvious from The Dark Knight that Harvey Dent/Two Face would be a possible villain in the 3rd movie. So if it's true that the Riddler is going to be in it also, doesn't that seem a little too much like Batman Forever?? One of the reasons I enjoy Nolan's Batman films is that they are different from all the previous Batman films. Hope the story turns out as good as the first two.
BTW, I love Levitt for this role, I think he'd be incredible.
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3:17PM on 07/21/2010
How is it possible that Two-Face is a villain in the third one? I thought that was pretty well wrapped up.
How is it possible that Two-Face is a villain in the third one? I thought that was pretty well wrapped up.
3:59PM on 07/21/2010
Only a matter of time before a "Two-Face Didn't Die" fan came out of the woodwork. He's dead. Get over it.
Only a matter of time before a "Two-Face Didn't Die" fan came out of the woodwork. He's dead. Get over it.
3:02PM on 07/21/2010
I love the Riddler.. but he was in the last Batman franchise and is widely known... I think having him playing the man behind the curtain and getting a much more intimidating villain to beat on Batman would be a cool idea. Hell, even the Joker was whooping Batman's ass with a pipe in The Dark Knight so I guess they could make him a bit more physical.. however.. would that ruin the point of The Riddler?
I love the Riddler.. but he was in the last Batman franchise and is widely known... I think having him playing the man behind the curtain and getting a much more intimidating villain to beat on Batman would be a cool idea. Hell, even the Joker was whooping Batman's ass with a pipe in The Dark Knight so I guess they could make him a bit more physical.. however.. would that ruin the point of The Riddler?
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3:13PM on 07/21/2010
Thats a good point but the Joker is just an all around psycho. He is incredibly smart but could also be incredibly dangerous. He got the jump on Batman and just went to town with that pipe. I see the Riddler as someone that wouldn't fight dirty like that. Hence the need for a physical threat to Batman
Thats a good point but the Joker is just an all around psycho. He is incredibly smart but could also be incredibly dangerous. He got the jump on Batman and just went to town with that pipe. I see the Riddler as someone that wouldn't fight dirty like that. Hence the need for a physical threat to Batman
2:45PM on 07/21/2010
All good!
All good!
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2:44PM on 07/21/2010
i think Levitt is a good actor but i think Michael C. Hall would be a better riddler. also i always though Clayface or scarface would be better villains. Imagine the fx for clayface if done right.
i think Levitt is a good actor but i think Michael C. Hall would be a better riddler. also i always though Clayface or scarface would be better villains. Imagine the fx for clayface if done right.
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2:38PM on 07/21/2010
If the Riddler is going to be the main villain then there should be another villain thats more of a physical threat to Batman.

Since Batman is on the run in this one,I feel that everybody is going to try and be the person to catch him and unmask him. So perhaps the mob sends Deadshot or Bane after him all the time while The Riddler is trying to trap him and the police are trying to catch him. The Penguin would actually fit in quite well as the new head of the mob. But just like Batman he
If the Riddler is going to be the main villain then there should be another villain thats more of a physical threat to Batman.

Since Batman is on the run in this one,I feel that everybody is going to try and be the person to catch him and unmask him. So perhaps the mob sends Deadshot or Bane after him all the time while The Riddler is trying to trap him and the police are trying to catch him. The Penguin would actually fit in quite well as the new head of the mob. But just like Batman he has duel indenties, one as the mob boss and the other as a rich powerful man in Gotham.
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2:32PM on 07/21/2010

Batman meets Seven

Where as the dark knight was Batman meets Heat, if they use the riddler, go with a Batman meets Seven vibe and make the Riddler more of a serial killer type dude playing with Batman. I do like the idea of him working with the Police to track down Batman though that would be cool. I actually think the Riddler is the PERFECT batman villain for Nolan to work with even more than (dare I say) the Joker. Nolan IS the riddler. His movies are puzzles and riddles and rhymes and this character is right
Where as the dark knight was Batman meets Heat, if they use the riddler, go with a Batman meets Seven vibe and make the Riddler more of a serial killer type dude playing with Batman. I do like the idea of him working with the Police to track down Batman though that would be cool. I actually think the Riddler is the PERFECT batman villain for Nolan to work with even more than (dare I say) the Joker. Nolan IS the riddler. His movies are puzzles and riddles and rhymes and this character is right up his alley. Forget your Jim Carrey vision think of him totally reinvented. And even though she's been done before Catwoman would work in the Nolanverse of Batman as she's reality based as well. Batman lost the good girl let him "experiment" with the bad girl now as he makes his path to redemption.

As for the actor I would definitely love to see an actor of the caliber of Daniel Day Lewis in a Batman film. However if they skew younger then definitely JGL as he really is one of the best actors/upcoming movie stars.
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2:47PM on 07/21/2010
Thats what I figured would be a good idea to do as well. Make the Riddler a serial killer and explore Batmans detective skills more.
Thats what I figured would be a good idea to do as well. Make the Riddler a serial killer and explore Batmans detective skills more.
1:59PM on 07/21/2010

Black Mask

This is just a bad idea. The Riddler is not an intimidating or ruthless enough among the remaining Batman antagonist. Hopefully someone will whisper this into Chris Nolan's ear; "Roman Sionis aka The Black Mask".
Here are more better choices for an Antagonist.

Red Hood
Anarky
DeadShot

Even the "The Clock King" has a more interesting story based around him than "The Riddler".
This is just a bad idea. The Riddler is not an intimidating or ruthless enough among the remaining Batman antagonist. Hopefully someone will whisper this into Chris Nolan's ear; "Roman Sionis aka The Black Mask".
Here are more better choices for an Antagonist.

Red Hood
Anarky
DeadShot

Even the "The Clock King" has a more interesting story based around him than "The Riddler".
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1:57PM on 07/21/2010

King Tut!!!

philip seymour hoffman as king tut!! j/k
philip seymour hoffman as king tut!! j/k
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1:54PM on 07/21/2010
There are a few people who are arguing that the Riddler is just the Joker redux. This is wrong. The Joker wants chaos. The Riddler wants to prove he's smarter, better, superior to Batman. The clues are his ego at work. His neurosis, his OCD make it so he has to create a trap, he has to have clues, he can never just kill.
There are a few people who are arguing that the Riddler is just the Joker redux. This is wrong. The Joker wants chaos. The Riddler wants to prove he's smarter, better, superior to Batman. The clues are his ego at work. His neurosis, his OCD make it so he has to create a trap, he has to have clues, he can never just kill.
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3:02PM on 07/21/2010
I'm of the camp that sees strong similarities in terms of broadstrokes between the two. In TDK, the Joker was extremely smart and highly manipulative: a maniacal player of high-stakes games, though perhaps not so overtly labeled as "puzzles." Sure, his goal was chaos, but he seemed to be one step ahead of every character until the very end. I see this as a major quality of the Riddler, the [link] mentality, leaving behind intricate trails to string along the police, Gordon, and Batman.

Some
I'm of the camp that sees strong similarities in terms of broadstrokes between the two. In TDK, the Joker was extremely smart and highly manipulative: a maniacal player of high-stakes games, though perhaps not so overtly labeled as "puzzles." Sure, his goal was chaos, but he seemed to be one step ahead of every character until the very end. I see this as a major quality of the Riddler, the [link] mentality, leaving behind intricate trails to string along the police, Gordon, and Batman.

Some people are hoping for a "serial killer" aspect for the Riddler -- I don't know much about the details of his character (past comic incarnations, etc.), but I never thought he was a serial killer. If that's the case, though, maybe it'd differentiate enough. However, if he's not a cold-blooded killer, I'm afraid the Riddler would end up being extremely watered down in comparison to the Joker. My concerns are just topping TDK, and I'm failing to see why the Riddler is the answer. It'd be cool to see him, sure, and the actors being tossed around would be great. But I'm really doubting the Riddler's effectiveness as a villain.

Then again, if they go for a highly obsessive guy too smart for his own good-type deal, it COULD work.
1:21PM on 07/21/2010

i wanna

see JGL with some joker make-up on and see how much resemblance he has to heath ledger. just for the fun of it of course. and JGL can pull off the riddler. no doubt. i'm in.
see JGL with some joker make-up on and see how much resemblance he has to heath ledger. just for the fun of it of course. and JGL can pull off the riddler. no doubt. i'm in.
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1:14PM on 07/21/2010
If Michael C. Hall or Joseph Gordon Levitt is cast as Edward Nigma/The Riddler, then I think this has a great chance of being the best Batman movie yet. I can see both actors making the role theirs, and after Ledger's amazing performance as The Joker, we need someone just as good for The Riddler. Can't wait to hear more.
If Michael C. Hall or Joseph Gordon Levitt is cast as Edward Nigma/The Riddler, then I think this has a great chance of being the best Batman movie yet. I can see both actors making the role theirs, and after Ledger's amazing performance as The Joker, we need someone just as good for The Riddler. Can't wait to hear more.
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1:59PM on 07/21/2010
Agreed. I can see both Hall and Gordon-Levitt kicking ass in the role.
Agreed. I can see both Hall and Gordon-Levitt kicking ass in the role.
12:59PM on 07/21/2010

Another Day...another BATMAN rumor...

Until Warner Bro's and/or Christopher Nolan's production company say anything. It's all speculation. Who knows! Jesus, guys. I blame you JoBlo.com for igniting all these gossip rumors. Please stop.

ZOINKS.
Until Warner Bro's and/or Christopher Nolan's production company say anything. It's all speculation. Who knows! Jesus, guys. I blame you JoBlo.com for igniting all these gossip rumors. Please stop.

ZOINKS.
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12:54PM on 07/21/2010
Side tangent: Which costume do you want to see on the Riddler....the spandex with the question marks all over or the suit/bowler hat combo like in TAS?
Side tangent: Which costume do you want to see on the Riddler....the spandex with the question marks all over or the suit/bowler hat combo like in TAS?
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1:23PM on 07/21/2010
Seriously, I ask a reasonable question to the masses and instead of answering you give a thumbs down? Do you people even read?
Seriously, I ask a reasonable question to the masses and instead of answering you give a thumbs down? Do you people even read?
2:49PM on 07/21/2010
Depends on the type of Riddler chosen. If he was a complete nutjob I say spandex. If he is more reserved then the suit with bowler hat of course. I doubt there will be any spandex though.
Depends on the type of Riddler chosen. If he was a complete nutjob I say spandex. If he is more reserved then the suit with bowler hat of course. I doubt there will be any spandex though.
12:45PM on 07/21/2010
I like to assume there are hidden easter eggs in every clever movie, and when Mal says she has a riddle when she's in the hotel room I was wondering if that could've been a winking hint... or I just look too deep into irrelevant stuff.

Either way, JGL has always been one of my favorites, and I'd consider him a totally welcome addition to Nolan's Batman world.
I like to assume there are hidden easter eggs in every clever movie, and when Mal says she has a riddle when she's in the hotel room I was wondering if that could've been a winking hint... or I just look too deep into irrelevant stuff.

Either way, JGL has always been one of my favorites, and I'd consider him a totally welcome addition to Nolan's Batman world.
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12:35PM on 07/21/2010

OK

Tom Hardy for Riddler, or is he too rough looking?
Tom Hardy for Riddler, or is he too rough looking?
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12:20PM on 07/21/2010

Who says

The Riddler has to be an arch villain? I can easily see Nolan using the character in a more interesting and complex way than "Riddler = Bad" and "Batman = good".
The Riddler has to be an arch villain? I can easily see Nolan using the character in a more interesting and complex way than "Riddler = Bad" and "Batman = good".
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12:28PM on 07/21/2010
Totally agree. I figure Gotham Police will hire Riddler to figure out who's under Batman's mask.
Totally agree. I figure Gotham Police will hire Riddler to figure out who's under Batman's mask.
12:20PM on 07/21/2010

sooo....

does it say eddie murphy anywhere on the grid as 'interested'?
does it say eddie murphy anywhere on the grid as 'interested'?
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12:17PM on 07/21/2010

sooo....

does it say eddie murphy anywhere on the grid as 'interested'?
does it say eddie murphy anywhere on the grid as 'interested'?
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12:06PM on 07/21/2010
I really like Levitt as an actor, but I think Riddler might be out of his league. Imagine if Daniel Day Lewis took it? Or even Guy Pearce would be a really cool reunion with Nolan. Although it all just depends on Nolan's interpretation. I don't think Catwoman could hold her own so I'd imagine she'd be secondary. One idea I've liked is to bring in Ra's Al Ghul's daughter, Talia, in and bring the League of Shadows full circle from Begins. Riddler could still fit in as a henchman for her like
I really like Levitt as an actor, but I think Riddler might be out of his league. Imagine if Daniel Day Lewis took it? Or even Guy Pearce would be a really cool reunion with Nolan. Although it all just depends on Nolan's interpretation. I don't think Catwoman could hold her own so I'd imagine she'd be secondary. One idea I've liked is to bring in Ra's Al Ghul's daughter, Talia, in and bring the League of Shadows full circle from Begins. Riddler could still fit in as a henchman for her like Scarecrow.
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11:47AM on 07/21/2010
I agree that there should be just one villain this time and if not Riddler than Catwoman to mend Bruce's broken heart.
I agree that there should be just one villain this time and if not Riddler than Catwoman to mend Bruce's broken heart.
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11:21AM on 07/21/2010

The Coleman Resse Concept...

I, too, agree with Green-Ghost's post. While JGL is awesome, I don't dig the idea of the Riddler being a villain just yet. In combination, maybe, but I don't want the films to fall into a villain formula like the old ones either (ie: one villain exists, another is created)

My personal pick is BANE, as I feel Batman needs to be defeated. He needs to lose. Bane could easily be written in as a steroid-juicing brilliant mastermind and be entirely different from the Joker.

Anyway, on to
I, too, agree with Green-Ghost's post. While JGL is awesome, I don't dig the idea of the Riddler being a villain just yet. In combination, maybe, but I don't want the films to fall into a villain formula like the old ones either (ie: one villain exists, another is created)

My personal pick is BANE, as I feel Batman needs to be defeated. He needs to lose. Bane could easily be written in as a steroid-juicing brilliant mastermind and be entirely different from the Joker.

Anyway, on to my title heading:
The idea behind people thinking Coleman Reese would be the Riddler is mostly coincidence. While I, too, had this theory, I don't think it's very logical.

The primary reason is that Reese discovered Batman's identity and was NOT ALLOWED to tell anyone, forcing him to keep the answer to the riddle. In addition, he was put through hell by the city he was trying to help, so he would have some issues with that. Also, his name, Mr. Reese, when said fast could be "Mysteries".

Still, I don't think he'd be a worthy actor to be the Riddler, and especially not a good villain follow-up to Heath's Joker. By comparison, it would be a major step down.

If you were to keep Reese and make him a very minor Riddler character (as the Riddler was never very big until the 60s show), that'd be okay... I guess.
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11:00AM on 07/21/2010

Good although

Jgl might have been alittle too badass in inception to be believable as the riddler but it could work. My dream choice would be none other than Neil Patrick Harris. He would be up to the challenge and if you think about it who could be a better riddler than nph. Please read Warner
Jgl might have been alittle too badass in inception to be believable as the riddler but it could work. My dream choice would be none other than Neil Patrick Harris. He would be up to the challenge and if you think about it who could be a better riddler than nph. Please read Warner
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10:57AM on 07/21/2010
I love the Riddler and I think JGL is a great actor. I believe it would be a good fit. There are a lot of ways you can go with the Riddler and I think Nolan will make sure something amazing is done with him. I don't quite get how Riddler is anything like the Joker like many have said. I think everyone has been watching too much Batman Forever and the 60's tv show because those are the only two Riddlers that act like the Joker in any way.
I love the Riddler and I think JGL is a great actor. I believe it would be a good fit. There are a lot of ways you can go with the Riddler and I think Nolan will make sure something amazing is done with him. I don't quite get how Riddler is anything like the Joker like many have said. I think everyone has been watching too much Batman Forever and the 60's tv show because those are the only two Riddlers that act like the Joker in any way.
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10:50AM on 07/21/2010

I second Green-Ghost's post

While we should trust Nolan with whomever he chooses, the Riddler's not someone I'm at all excited about. What's he going to bring to the table that Joker hasn't? Give us someone else (or someone IN ADDITION to Riddler) that's going to maximize the threat. Catwoman would be a great dynamic story for Batman and Bruce Wayne, as SoundGirl said waaay below, so that'd be cool. I'd like to see her in it and perhaps a mob type dude, Black Mask or someone. Riddler, to me, seems like a soft
While we should trust Nolan with whomever he chooses, the Riddler's not someone I'm at all excited about. What's he going to bring to the table that Joker hasn't? Give us someone else (or someone IN ADDITION to Riddler) that's going to maximize the threat. Catwoman would be a great dynamic story for Batman and Bruce Wayne, as SoundGirl said waaay below, so that'd be cool. I'd like to see her in it and perhaps a mob type dude, Black Mask or someone. Riddler, to me, seems like a soft follow-up to the Joker. But hey, just my opinion.

And JGL OR Robin Williams would kill it, if this is indeed true about Riddler being in it. I'd go with the latter actually. It'd bring a new sort of energy to the mix.
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10:47AM on 07/21/2010
Whatever Nolan decides to do with Batman 3 I'm down with, but at this point this is nothing but a rumor.
Whatever Nolan decides to do with Batman 3 I'm down with, but at this point this is nothing but a rumor.
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10:44AM on 07/21/2010

Dogs!

They should expand on Batman's greatest foe from TDK... dogs! A whole sequence where he has to escape from a kennel full of rotweilers would be nail-biting!!!
They should expand on Batman's greatest foe from TDK... dogs! A whole sequence where he has to escape from a kennel full of rotweilers would be nail-biting!!!
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10:42AM on 07/21/2010
Murphy, Ledger and now Levitt... I think Nolan finds skinny men scary.

I find skinny jeans scary.
Murphy, Ledger and now Levitt... I think Nolan finds skinny men scary.

I find skinny jeans scary.
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10:36AM on 07/21/2010

Why Riddler?

While I like Levitt as actor and if the Riddler is in the movie it would be cool if he plays him, I am not happy with the choice of the Riddler in generall.
I was hoping that Nolan would choose another villain and don't go with the next logical choice (Riddler, Penguin and Catwoman). And while I could see Catwoman because her importance in the evolution of Batman and Bruce Wayne I don't see what challange Riddler could bring to Batman to make him different to the Joker.
I trust Nolan and he
While I like Levitt as actor and if the Riddler is in the movie it would be cool if he plays him, I am not happy with the choice of the Riddler in generall.
I was hoping that Nolan would choose another villain and don't go with the next logical choice (Riddler, Penguin and Catwoman). And while I could see Catwoman because her importance in the evolution of Batman and Bruce Wayne I don't see what challange Riddler could bring to Batman to make him different to the Joker.
I trust Nolan and he will handle the Riddler good, I was just hoping for someone not everybody was expecting. For exampe a villain like Poison Ivy would be a bigger challange to fit into his universe. I would like to see some other villains get some spotlight who aren't the classic ones (Joker, Riddler, Penguin and Catwoman)...
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10:54AM on 07/21/2010
Agreed. The Riddler could be cool, but it wouldn't be my first choice.

I think Catwoman is a very logical next villain. She would expand on the idea of fake Batmans and costumed vigilantes in TDK, particularly if they take the "Long Halloween" approach and have her burglarizing the mob. Top that off with the ladie issues Bruce is going to be dealing with after Rachel's death.. perfect fit.

Poison Ivy could also be a cool character for Nolan's Batman. She could be easily grounded in reality if
Agreed. The Riddler could be cool, but it wouldn't be my first choice.

I think Catwoman is a very logical next villain. She would expand on the idea of fake Batmans and costumed vigilantes in TDK, particularly if they take the "Long Halloween" approach and have her burglarizing the mob. Top that off with the ladie issues Bruce is going to be dealing with after Rachel's death.. perfect fit.

Poison Ivy could also be a cool character for Nolan's Batman. She could be easily grounded in reality if they took away the talking to plants aspect of her character and made her into an eco-terrorist (killing polluters with botanical poisons).
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10:26AM on 07/21/2010

coolness

I'm all for it.
I'm all for it.
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10:23AM on 07/21/2010

Riddler...

I really like JGL, but he's too young to be the villain of Bale's Batman. It would be ridiculous to see these two in the same screen against each other. I know this has no possibility of occurring, but JGL would make a great Dick Grayson. GUY PEARCE is the Riddler for me. He is an incredible actor and he exudes the confidence needed to take on the Bat.
I really like JGL, but he's too young to be the villain of Bale's Batman. It would be ridiculous to see these two in the same screen against each other. I know this has no possibility of occurring, but JGL would make a great Dick Grayson. GUY PEARCE is the Riddler for me. He is an incredible actor and he exudes the confidence needed to take on the Bat.
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10:02AM on 07/21/2010

Is there a mic??

I've been advocating this move ever since the Dark Knight. JGL BABY! If you ever wanna see a disturbed and imbalanced JGL watch the movie Killshot. Not a great movie by any means but JGL was the scene stealer in every part of it.
I've been advocating this move ever since the Dark Knight. JGL BABY! If you ever wanna see a disturbed and imbalanced JGL watch the movie Killshot. Not a great movie by any means but JGL was the scene stealer in every part of it.
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9:46AM on 07/21/2010

Idiots - already cast

I hate hollywood. Riddler already had seeds in Dark Knight and now they just wanna cast someone new.

[link]

poor guy probably could have pulled it off.
I hate hollywood. Riddler already had seeds in Dark Knight and now they just wanna cast someone new.

[link]

poor guy probably could have pulled it off.
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9:56AM on 07/21/2010
How was the seeds set? I don't see how "Coleman Reese" was set up to be Riddler.
How was the seeds set? I don't see how "Coleman Reese" was set up to be Riddler.
10:55AM on 07/21/2010
no i totally agree with you. while i prefer JGL as an actor, the coleman reese story pretty much nailed e.nygma.

1. Hes smart/good at solving puzzles. I mean he figures out who batman is
2. works for wayne corp
3. is ashamed and humiliated by both wanye/batman.

I just prefer Nolan to introduce the characters storyline perhaps a movie early. I just get worried when they spring a bunch of major character on us in one movie.
no i totally agree with you. while i prefer JGL as an actor, the coleman reese story pretty much nailed e.nygma.

1. Hes smart/good at solving puzzles. I mean he figures out who batman is
2. works for wayne corp
3. is ashamed and humiliated by both wanye/batman.

I just prefer Nolan to introduce the characters storyline perhaps a movie early. I just get worried when they spring a bunch of major character on us in one movie.
11:26AM on 07/21/2010
Seriously, Coleman Reese looked like a douchebag. Riddler's not a doucebag. Plus, he didn't solve puzzles and figure out who Batman was...he just put 2 and 2 together, made sense out of it, and got the bigger picture. It was Fox's fault at most. The Riddler's way more psychological than some doofus called Coleman Reese.
Seriously, Coleman Reese looked like a douchebag. Riddler's not a doucebag. Plus, he didn't solve puzzles and figure out who Batman was...he just put 2 and 2 together, made sense out of it, and got the bigger picture. It was Fox's fault at most. The Riddler's way more psychological than some doofus called Coleman Reese.
9:43AM on 07/21/2010

Idiots - already cast

I hate hollywood. Riddler already had seeds in Dark Knight and now they just wanna cast someone new.

[link]

poor guy probably could have pulled it off.
I hate hollywood. Riddler already had seeds in Dark Knight and now they just wanna cast someone new.

[link]

poor guy probably could have pulled it off.
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9:42AM on 07/21/2010
Considering Nolan and JGL seemed to work so well together on Inception, I'm all for this if it works out.
Considering Nolan and JGL seemed to work so well together on Inception, I'm all for this if it works out.
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9:34AM on 07/21/2010

Idiots - already cast

I hate hollywood. Riddler already had seeds in Dark Knight and now they just wanna cast someone new.

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poor guy probably could have pulled it off.
I hate hollywood. Riddler already had seeds in Dark Knight and now they just wanna cast someone new.

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poor guy probably could have pulled it off.
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9:39AM on 07/21/2010
You've got to be kidding. How, in any way does this guy's role say "The Riddler".
You've got to be kidding. How, in any way does this guy's role say "The Riddler".
9:46AM on 07/21/2010
disgruntled x Wayne employee who is clearly intelligent enough to figure who Batman is. Mr. Reese, isn't much, but if expanded on would be genius continuity. Also re-watch Dark Knight and clock his screen time. Bit players don't get big time for no reason, unless it really was all for Fox.
disgruntled x Wayne employee who is clearly intelligent enough to figure who Batman is. Mr. Reese, isn't much, but if expanded on would be genius continuity. Also re-watch Dark Knight and clock his screen time. Bit players don't get big time for no reason, unless it really was all for Fox.
9:47AM on 07/21/2010
Also sorry for the coupe post. No idea why it is doing that.
Also sorry for the coupe post. No idea why it is doing that.
10:09AM on 07/21/2010
Disgruntled current Wayne employee creates inciting incident for the Joker the to cause mayhem, and for Fox to find gotham spying central.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are full of bit players getting big time:
Earle (former Wayne CEO )
Finch (former Gotham DA)
The Chechen (mobster)
Mike Engel (news reporter)
Disgruntled current Wayne employee creates inciting incident for the Joker the to cause mayhem, and for Fox to find gotham spying central.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are full of bit players getting big time:
Earle (former Wayne CEO )
Finch (former Gotham DA)
The Chechen (mobster)
Mike Engel (news reporter)
10:25AM on 07/21/2010
"disgruntled x Wayne employee who is clearly intelligent enough to figure who Batman is."

He's an accountant at Wanye Enterprises that discovers a entire department just diaspeared and puts a couple pices together. If he did not hold the position he did he would have never figured this out. A good accountant? Yes. Smart enough to just 'figure out' who Batman is? No.
"disgruntled x Wayne employee who is clearly intelligent enough to figure who Batman is."

He's an accountant at Wanye Enterprises that discovers a entire department just diaspeared and puts a couple pices together. If he did not hold the position he did he would have never figured this out. A good accountant? Yes. Smart enough to just 'figure out' who Batman is? No.
2:18PM on 07/21/2010
Why does everybody insist on this guy being the Riddler? At no point in TDK did I think that this guy would become the riddler. He was simply there to serve as a way for the Joker to throw the city into a panic. Bruce Wayne saved the man's life even though he was trying to reveal him to the world, I don't think the guy is stupid enough to go back on that. Plus that guy was a horrible no body actor. You would seriously want him playing the main villain instead of a much better A list actor?
Why does everybody insist on this guy being the Riddler? At no point in TDK did I think that this guy would become the riddler. He was simply there to serve as a way for the Joker to throw the city into a panic. Bruce Wayne saved the man's life even though he was trying to reveal him to the world, I don't think the guy is stupid enough to go back on that. Plus that guy was a horrible no body actor. You would seriously want him playing the main villain instead of a much better A list actor?
8:56AM on 07/21/2010

hg

That's weird. Levitt played opposite Ledger in ten things I hate about you. Really weird wild stuff here
That's weird. Levitt played opposite Ledger in ten things I hate about you. Really weird wild stuff here
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8:39AM on 07/21/2010
You never know...most people hated the choice for Ledger as Joker, and it turned out to be a brilliant performance. Who knows?

On a side note, I think the best actor for the Riddler is Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. He has the maneurisms and everything that screams Riddler material!
You never know...most people hated the choice for Ledger as Joker, and it turned out to be a brilliant performance. Who knows?

On a side note, I think the best actor for the Riddler is Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. He has the maneurisms and everything that screams Riddler material!
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8:15AM on 07/21/2010

no JGL as....

...the riddler. JGL is awesome....but he does resemble heath ledger quite a bit. that can be distracting. i'd rather JGL play joker, even if its just a quick appearance(but nolan isn't doing that in the 3rd film).
anwyay, i know johnny depp was rumored at one point, which would be interesting.
either way, if JGL is the riddler, i completely trust nolan to make a good movie. someone said on here: nolan doesn't know how to fail.
...the riddler. JGL is awesome....but he does resemble heath ledger quite a bit. that can be distracting. i'd rather JGL play joker, even if its just a quick appearance(but nolan isn't doing that in the 3rd film).
anwyay, i know johnny depp was rumored at one point, which would be interesting.
either way, if JGL is the riddler, i completely trust nolan to make a good movie. someone said on here: nolan doesn't know how to fail.
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8:03AM on 07/21/2010

JGL Is Awesome, But Not The Riddler.

My favorite character in Inception has got to be Gordon Levitt's Arthur, but I can't see him as The Riddler. I have full faith in Nolan's choice of actors, but JGL looks too much like Heath Ledger from lots of angles. In fact, if they decide to have a small "cameo" of The Joker at all, I think JGL would be perfect for a 5minute 'Joker in Arkham' scene. With the right lighting and proper makeup, we wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And no, that's not disrespectful to Heath Ledger. If
My favorite character in Inception has got to be Gordon Levitt's Arthur, but I can't see him as The Riddler. I have full faith in Nolan's choice of actors, but JGL looks too much like Heath Ledger from lots of angles. In fact, if they decide to have a small "cameo" of The Joker at all, I think JGL would be perfect for a 5minute 'Joker in Arkham' scene. With the right lighting and proper makeup, we wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And no, that's not disrespectful to Heath Ledger. If anything, it's an honor that people are being made to replicate his portrayal of Batman's most iconic enemy.
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7:59AM on 07/21/2010

???Riddler???

The Guy who played Ben on Lost would make a great Riddler.
The Guy who played Ben on Lost would make a great Riddler.
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8:09AM on 07/21/2010
Exactly. But then we'd have Richard Alpert (Ben's assistant from LOST) as the mayor and Benjamin Linus as The Riddler. Would make things kinda' awkward.
Exactly. But then we'd have Richard Alpert (Ben's assistant from LOST) as the mayor and Benjamin Linus as The Riddler. Would make things kinda' awkward.
7:54AM on 07/21/2010
Nothing's certain at this point. Whoever gets the role, I'm confident it'll be perfect casting.
Nothing's certain at this point. Whoever gets the role, I'm confident it'll be perfect casting.
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7:46AM on 07/21/2010

I would rather the villian...

... Be Doctor Double-X. I see Pierce Brosnan in the role. Perhaps Michael Caine could do double-duty as the Outsider? And Jack Black as Bat-Mite. I like where this is headed.
... Be Doctor Double-X. I see Pierce Brosnan in the role. Perhaps Michael Caine could do double-duty as the Outsider? And Jack Black as Bat-Mite. I like where this is headed.
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7:40AM on 07/21/2010
Now, while I love JGL as an actor, I wouldn't want him to play the Riddler. I just think his acting skills and on-screen charisma kind of transcends a Riddler role. But if it happens... whatever.
Now, while I love JGL as an actor, I wouldn't want him to play the Riddler. I just think his acting skills and on-screen charisma kind of transcends a Riddler role. But if it happens... whatever.
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7:39AM on 07/21/2010
JGL as the Riddler?...Like it! His face fits for the role and the boy can act. Few people want Robin Williams..not for me..but would be great to see him in a cameo role as sum wacko in Arkham!..he'd be a scene stealer 4 sure.
JGL as the Riddler?...Like it! His face fits for the role and the boy can act. Few people want Robin Williams..not for me..but would be great to see him in a cameo role as sum wacko in Arkham!..he'd be a scene stealer 4 sure.
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7:03AM on 07/21/2010

Yes, but...

..."interested" might just mean that Bale and Levitt had lunch together on the set of Inception and the conversation went like this:

"Hey, I was thinking I'd make the Riddler the villain in Bats 3"

"Oh that's cool, I love that character"

"Yeah, gotta do a casting call on that soon"

"Well, let me know. What the hell, I'd like to read for it"
..."interested" might just mean that Bale and Levitt had lunch together on the set of Inception and the conversation went like this:

"Hey, I was thinking I'd make the Riddler the villain in Bats 3"

"Oh that's cool, I love that character"

"Yeah, gotta do a casting call on that soon"

"Well, let me know. What the hell, I'd like to read for it"
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10:47AM on 07/21/2010
I think you mean Nolan not Bale.
I think you mean Nolan not Bale.
6:58AM on 07/21/2010
First Heath Ledger now Levitt. Nolan must be a really big fan of 10 Things I Hate About You.
First Heath Ledger now Levitt. Nolan must be a really big fan of 10 Things I Hate About You.
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10:09AM on 07/21/2010
Julia Styles for Vicki Vale!
Julia Styles for Vicki Vale!
6:31AM on 07/21/2010
I know I might get thumbs down for this but am I the only who was kinda excited and thought it would be interesting if Eddie Murphy was playing the riddler.
I know I might get thumbs down for this but am I the only who was kinda excited and thought it would be interesting if Eddie Murphy was playing the riddler.
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6:23AM on 07/21/2010

Robin Williams

interesting casting choice buffalosoldier. take his character from insomnia and mix it with his character from good will hunting. boom. down to earth, pyschotic, all knowing riddler right there.

funny thing is he was originally supposed to be the joker in the tim burton version. that would make it come full circle in a way
interesting casting choice buffalosoldier. take his character from insomnia and mix it with his character from good will hunting. boom. down to earth, pyschotic, all knowing riddler right there.

funny thing is he was originally supposed to be the joker in the tim burton version. that would make it come full circle in a way
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5:57AM on 07/21/2010

I'm Down

JGL is the man so if it has to be the Riddler, and he's in then I'll support it. However deep down there is a side of me that wants Robin Williams in the role. Only a few of the may reasons is that Williams and Nolan have worked really well before, Williams is excellent at pulling of a villainous character (see 1HourPhoto&Insomnia), that and I would really like to see Batman go up against a villain who is older than him. Have it come down to brains A LOT more because of the villain's serious
JGL is the man so if it has to be the Riddler, and he's in then I'll support it. However deep down there is a side of me that wants Robin Williams in the role. Only a few of the may reasons is that Williams and Nolan have worked really well before, Williams is excellent at pulling of a villainous character (see 1HourPhoto&Insomnia), that and I would really like to see Batman go up against a villain who is older than him. Have it come down to brains A LOT more because of the villain's serious amount of experience...
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6:12AM on 07/21/2010
Robin Williams is old and washed up.

His career is basically over.
Robin Williams is old and washed up.

His career is basically over.
5:50AM on 07/21/2010
Riddler and Catwoman. I honestly wouldn't want anyone else beyond these two.
Riddler and Catwoman. I honestly wouldn't want anyone else beyond these two.
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7:51AM on 07/21/2010
Finally, another person who wants to see Catwoman in this!
Finally, another person who wants to see Catwoman in this!
5:48AM on 07/21/2010
and Mel Gibson as The Joker.
and Mel Gibson as The Joker.
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6:10AM on 07/21/2010
He's certainly psychotic enough! :D
He's certainly psychotic enough! :D
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