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10.23.2015

For all the talk of BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE being some sort of new origin story for this version of Batman, things on the surface seem to be quite simple as to how Bruce Wayne fits into this quickly expanding DC Cinematic Universe. All you need to do is take a look at the full trailer Warner Bros. unveiled at San Diego Comic-Con, and you'll get answers. But, for those of you who need everything spelled out for you, both Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck are more than willing to give you the lay of the land as to what the prologue of BATMAN V SUPERMAN entails and what it all will mean in serving the larger film.

Let's start with the Man of Steel himself.

What happens there is one of Bruce’s buildings gets destroyed and he’s trying to save all the people inside the building and he can’t. So he is this angry person who fears what Superman may do. Why are they just going to trust this super-powered alien? What if he does decide to turn against us?

Ah, I get it. When great power isn't used with great responsibility, billionaires get pissed. Makes sense.

How about you, Mr. Wayne? Care to add anything regarding your Dark Knight?

He’s found himself in a place of harboring a tremendous amount of rage for Superman. So it’s how he got there, and what that’s done to him, and what that’s done to people around him like Alfred, who are, I think, very scared and worried for him. It’s something that’s interesting and new.

Lots of resentment... lots of anger... lots of blame... That's your new Caped Crusader.

Within the context of what Zack Snyder has created, it makes sense, and adds an interesting layer to the relationship between these two superheroes. Now, to see if the rest of the movie can live up to such intelligent design (even if we only accidentally ended up here)...

Oh, and, for those wondering about Affleck directing a solo Batman movie, he had some nice deflection on the matter, as if something this inevitable needed added mystery...

If I could make it work, yeah, Obviously that would be like a dream. The trick is, as to any movie, is to make sure that you – if you’re going to direct it – that you can make it good. You’ve got to have the right idea and the right take on it… Broadly speaking, it’s something I’d be open to, for sure. It’s a very exciting idea.

If you can make it work...? Yeah, right. Whatever, dude. We all know you're making one of these movies.

BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE hits theaters on March 25, 2016.

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2:51PM on 10/26/2015
Can you get rid of this writer please? Report the story & drop the condescending remarks in between.
Can you get rid of this writer please? Report the story & drop the condescending remarks in between.
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8:54AM on 10/26/2015
Affleck's rage face. LOL.
Affleck's rage face. LOL.
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5:46AM on 10/26/2015
I've always found Affleck pretty wooden so to see him act with any emotion will be a surprise.
Oh, Billy is a dick.
I've always found Affleck pretty wooden so to see him act with any emotion will be a surprise.
Oh, Billy is a dick.
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2:39PM on 10/26/2015
Thanks. I like your hat, too.
Thanks. I like your hat, too.
9:55PM on 10/25/2015
What a terrible article. If you call this movie journalism, then you need to get a clue. The writer sounds like an arrogant asshole who is assuming the worst of the movie before he's seen it. Obvious bias and distaste for Snyder and his films. Wont be reading anything else this guy writes.
What a terrible article. If you call this movie journalism, then you need to get a clue. The writer sounds like an arrogant asshole who is assuming the worst of the movie before he's seen it. Obvious bias and distaste for Snyder and his films. Wont be reading anything else this guy writes.
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10:38PM on 10/25/2015
This is the same dude that wrote that terrible Prometheus 2 article, right? The one that was 2% news and 98% him shitting all over the first movie. What a class act.
This is the same dude that wrote that terrible Prometheus 2 article, right? The one that was 2% news and 98% him shitting all over the first movie. What a class act.
2:38PM on 10/26/2015
Where is the bias and distaste? What exactly was written that says "the worst" about this movie?
Where is the bias and distaste? What exactly was written that says "the worst" about this movie?
4:24PM on 10/25/2015
Why butcher the content you're told to write about
Why butcher the content you're told to write about
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2:48PM on 10/25/2015

All I gotta say

is don't let us down Affleck thats all. And I am giving this a bad idea because this writer is lame as fuck. JOBLO get a new writer ASAP.
is don't let us down Affleck thats all. And I am giving this a bad idea because this writer is lame as fuck. JOBLO get a new writer ASAP.
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2:37PM on 10/26/2015
Where can we find this ASAP guy?
Where can we find this ASAP guy?
2:13PM on 10/25/2015
I expect cynicism from this writer when Snyder or anyone else takes a shot at Marvel, but it's as if he hates this movie and everything it represents so much that he's not capable of laying off it even when reporting on comments as general as these. Please, if all you're going to do is hate on this movie before its release, then just let someone else write about it. It kind of sucks when you come to this site to get excited about an upcoming movie and practically the only writer that reports on
I expect cynicism from this writer when Snyder or anyone else takes a shot at Marvel, but it's as if he hates this movie and everything it represents so much that he's not capable of laying off it even when reporting on comments as general as these. Please, if all you're going to do is hate on this movie before its release, then just let someone else write about it. It kind of sucks when you come to this site to get excited about an upcoming movie and practically the only writer that reports on any news regarding it is the one who constantly hates on it.
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2:37PM on 10/26/2015
What exactly did I say that would even come close to conveying that I hate this movie?? Please indulge me. I'm incredibly curious.
What exactly did I say that would even come close to conveying that I hate this movie?? Please indulge me. I'm incredibly curious.
8:30PM on 10/26/2015
You don't have to say anything outright, but the sarcastic and condescending tones are always present when you write about this film. Perhaps that's your style, but I get the feeling you have it out for this movie. However, some examples of your snark in this article include, "Now, to see if the rest of the movie can live up to such intelligent design (even if we only accidentally ended up here)..." and "But, for those of you who need everything spelled out for you." Sounds like you think
You don't have to say anything outright, but the sarcastic and condescending tones are always present when you write about this film. Perhaps that's your style, but I get the feeling you have it out for this movie. However, some examples of your snark in this article include, "Now, to see if the rest of the movie can live up to such intelligent design (even if we only accidentally ended up here)..." and "But, for those of you who need everything spelled out for you." Sounds like you think highly of the filmmakers and the fans....
10:50PM on 10/26/2015
Or maybe since they already showed a great deal about this development in the last trailer (which most visitors to this site would have seen), I didn't think we needed it all laid out so plainly...

And maybe I mean the plan here is actually solid in retrospect, even though the battle in MAN OF STEEL wasn't built originally to feed into the sequel as a character's prime motivation...

Doesn't sound like sarcasm or condescension at all. More like statement of simple fact.

And have it out
Or maybe since they already showed a great deal about this development in the last trailer (which most visitors to this site would have seen), I didn't think we needed it all laid out so plainly...

And maybe I mean the plan here is actually solid in retrospect, even though the battle in MAN OF STEEL wasn't built originally to feed into the sequel as a character's prime motivation...

Doesn't sound like sarcasm or condescension at all. More like statement of simple fact.

And have it out for a movie? I will go see it. I hope to like it, like I do everything else I commit my time to. If you like it, great for you.
8:30PM on 10/27/2015
I don't know man, perhaps I misinterpreted what you wrote, but you definitely straddle the line between what can be taken as sarcastic or condescending and what's straightforward way more closely than the other writers on this site. You draw more fire than any other reporters on here, almost on a constant basis, while no one else seems to invite that type of scorn. So you tell me, why do you think that is?
I don't know man, perhaps I misinterpreted what you wrote, but you definitely straddle the line between what can be taken as sarcastic or condescending and what's straightforward way more closely than the other writers on this site. You draw more fire than any other reporters on here, almost on a constant basis, while no one else seems to invite that type of scorn. So you tell me, why do you think that is?
8:42AM on 10/25/2015
Wow. This writer really seems to hate his job and his audience and the audience of the movies that his job is for writing about and the movies that he's paid to write about for their audience. And possibly writing and/or people in general. Nice angle dude. I like something different.
Wow. This writer really seems to hate his job and his audience and the audience of the movies that his job is for writing about and the movies that he's paid to write about for their audience. And possibly writing and/or people in general. Nice angle dude. I like something different.
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2:36PM on 10/26/2015
Don't hate myself. Don't hate JoBlo. Don't hate you. Don't hate movies. Don't hate this movie. Don't hate DC movies. Don't hate superheroes. Don't hate readers or this audience. Don't hate writing.

I think that about covers it all.
Don't hate myself. Don't hate JoBlo. Don't hate you. Don't hate movies. Don't hate this movie. Don't hate DC movies. Don't hate superheroes. Don't hate readers or this audience. Don't hate writing.

I think that about covers it all.
4:18PM on 10/27/2015
Nah, I think you're being modest. Actually, a good angry writer might shake things up a bit. Stick with it, it might work out.
Nah, I think you're being modest. Actually, a good angry writer might shake things up a bit. Stick with it, it might work out.
7:18AM on 10/25/2015

Ugh

Who writes this tripe?
Who writes this tripe?
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2:35PM on 10/26/2015
::raises hand::

Me!! Right here!! It's me!!
::raises hand::

Me!! Right here!! It's me!!
6:30PM on 10/24/2015

Why So Serious?

This writer's condescending and cynical attitude represents the worst aspects of comic book fans. If you want evidence for why so many people are dismissive of of comic book "nerds", look right here.
This writer's condescending and cynical attitude represents the worst aspects of comic book fans. If you want evidence for why so many people are dismissive of of comic book "nerds", look right here.
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2:34PM on 10/26/2015
Not cynical one bit here. If there's anything to be cynical about, it comes down to people raising a big stink over some perceived slight they see being given to a movie... even when such slight doesn't actually exist.
Not cynical one bit here. If there's anything to be cynical about, it comes down to people raising a big stink over some perceived slight they see being given to a movie... even when such slight doesn't actually exist.
3:19PM on 10/24/2015
ugh ever since they hired this guy, i've been coming to joblo less and less. I tend to come during the day and avoid the evenings. His articles are filled with such obvious bias towards movies he doesn't like that the articles come across as sloppy. He used to write for Harry Knowles, which explains alot. If I were hiring and saw you wrote for that troll,clickbate,hate,bribable website, I wouldn't even look at the application. New writer please.
ugh ever since they hired this guy, i've been coming to joblo less and less. I tend to come during the day and avoid the evenings. His articles are filled with such obvious bias towards movies he doesn't like that the articles come across as sloppy. He used to write for Harry Knowles, which explains alot. If I were hiring and saw you wrote for that troll,clickbate,hate,bribable website, I wouldn't even look at the application. New writer please.
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2:32PM on 10/26/2015
Now who has the bias?
Now who has the bias?
1:24AM on 10/24/2015
Damn.For such a short article, you sure did piss off a lot of people Billy.
Damn.For such a short article, you sure did piss off a lot of people Billy.
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2:31PM on 10/26/2015
Apparently.

Who knew?
Apparently.

Who knew?
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11:24PM on 10/23/2015
I get this is Joblo and there is a certain style to the writing in articles, but maybe try reporting on something without being so smarmy about it. I'm only interested in the story, not in your sarcastic opinion.
I get this is Joblo and there is a certain style to the writing in articles, but maybe try reporting on something without being so smarmy about it. I'm only interested in the story, not in your sarcastic opinion.
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9:43PM on 10/23/2015

I haven't given up on you yet, dude

But I'm about to as you're much, much less funny than you seem to believe you are. And it's hard to digest your articles with all your silly bullshit. It's particularly heavy in everything you write that has anything to do with this movie. I want to believe you can do better than this. However, my hope is waning.
But I'm about to as you're much, much less funny than you seem to believe you are. And it's hard to digest your articles with all your silly bullshit. It's particularly heavy in everything you write that has anything to do with this movie. I want to believe you can do better than this. However, my hope is waning.
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2:31PM on 10/26/2015
Sorry you walk away with that read, but it couldn't be more wrong. Not a fan of MAN OF STEEL, yet optimistic about BVS.

However, it's not my job to live inside the bubble where everything is great and awesome either. Even if I didn't like the idea of the movie, what would be the problem with that? Isn't that why we have discussions, debates and conversations? Aren't differing opinions what makes this all fun and worthwhile?
Sorry you walk away with that read, but it couldn't be more wrong. Not a fan of MAN OF STEEL, yet optimistic about BVS.

However, it's not my job to live inside the bubble where everything is great and awesome either. Even if I didn't like the idea of the movie, what would be the problem with that? Isn't that why we have discussions, debates and conversations? Aren't differing opinions what makes this all fun and worthwhile?
8:14PM on 10/23/2015

Has anyone heard . . .

. . . about the theory that Ben Affleck is really Deathstroke? The article seems farfetched to me, but I'm not well versed in comic lore. It did sound interesting, albeit, not likely.

[link]manual
. . . about the theory that Ben Affleck is really Deathstroke? The article seems farfetched to me, but I'm not well versed in comic lore. It did sound interesting, albeit, not likely.

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9:14PM on 10/23/2015
I like some parts to this theory, but I don' care to see Bale return to the role, and I don't like the idea of John Blake turning into Joker.

Would be awesome though if Ben were Slade Wilson and he only assumed the role of Batman because he knew the people could root for him. It would be cool if we watched him battle an evil clone of Superman. I can dig it!

I like some parts to this theory, but I don' care to see Bale return to the role, and I don't like the idea of John Blake turning into Joker.

Would be awesome though if Ben were Slade Wilson and he only assumed the role of Batman because he knew the people could root for him. It would be cool if we watched him battle an evil clone of Superman. I can dig it!

11:24AM on 10/24/2015
I read the link, thanks for posting that by the way, I had never heard this theory before. It's very interesting but really far fetched and they're reaching quite a bit. My biggest issue is that Joseph Gordan Levit begged Nolan to put him in DKR. Levit is a huge fan and there is no way he would pass on an opportunity to continue with his Robin John Blake character, especially if it meant he would get to be the Joker. I can see the whole Irons as Slade's butler and Malone as Rose, and possibly
I read the link, thanks for posting that by the way, I had never heard this theory before. It's very interesting but really far fetched and they're reaching quite a bit. My biggest issue is that Joseph Gordan Levit begged Nolan to put him in DKR. Levit is a huge fan and there is no way he would pass on an opportunity to continue with his Robin John Blake character, especially if it meant he would get to be the Joker. I can see the whole Irons as Slade's butler and Malone as Rose, and possibly Affleck as Slade himself, but that still doesn't mean it's grounded in the Nolanverse. It's all fun to think about though. Things that make ya go hmmmmmm.
1:05PM on 10/24/2015
The whole theory is blown away once you look at Frank Miller's Batman in the Dark Knight Returns which he never referenced. It's the most convoluted theory I've ever heard. None of which I imagine will turn out to be true. However I did read an article from Stan Lee's website where he mentions that Warner's have spent in excess of 400 million dollars on this. Wonder if the Justice League is being filmed at the same time in secrete. Though that would be hard to pull off in today's internet
The whole theory is blown away once you look at Frank Miller's Batman in the Dark Knight Returns which he never referenced. It's the most convoluted theory I've ever heard. None of which I imagine will turn out to be true. However I did read an article from Stan Lee's website where he mentions that Warner's have spent in excess of 400 million dollars on this. Wonder if the Justice League is being filmed at the same time in secrete. Though that would be hard to pull off in today's internet age. Just makes me wonder where all that money is going.
1:59PM on 10/24/2015
I appreciate you all responding. I'm in the same boat as believing this is not likely, but it is just a little fun to think about. It seems like it would be pretty confusing for the average movie goer, which would probably backfire at the box office.

All in all, I am excited to see the movie. I'm hoping it is a solid film, and really sets the foundation for the DCU.
I appreciate you all responding. I'm in the same boat as believing this is not likely, but it is just a little fun to think about. It seems like it would be pretty confusing for the average movie goer, which would probably backfire at the box office.

All in all, I am excited to see the movie. I'm hoping it is a solid film, and really sets the foundation for the DCU.
7:48PM on 10/23/2015
If this is your attempt at humor Mr Donnelly, then you failed miserably. You come across as bitter and rather assholish about this movie. Whether you're a fan or not, as a "reporter" you're supposed to show objectivity, or at least some degree of it. We as fans are allowed to hate, you as a reporter are not supposed, at least not until you see it.
If this is your attempt at humor Mr Donnelly, then you failed miserably. You come across as bitter and rather assholish about this movie. Whether you're a fan or not, as a "reporter" you're supposed to show objectivity, or at least some degree of it. We as fans are allowed to hate, you as a reporter are not supposed, at least not until you see it.
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2:28PM on 10/26/2015
Not bitter at all about this movie. In fact, very much looking forward to it... but thanks for projecting.
Not bitter at all about this movie. In fact, very much looking forward to it... but thanks for projecting.
7:15PM on 10/23/2015

Billy Donnelly...

...as in The Infamous Billy the Kidd ???
...as in The Infamous Billy the Kidd ???
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2:27PM on 10/26/2015
Once upon a time...
Once upon a time...
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6:40PM on 10/23/2015
I hate this guys articles with a passion. You are not funny or an entertaining read.
I hate this guys articles with a passion. You are not funny or an entertaining read.
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2:27PM on 10/26/2015
I enjoy your presence as well. Thank you for the kind words.
I enjoy your presence as well. Thank you for the kind words.
6:07PM on 10/23/2015
I agree with JimmyArrow below. Affleck's best roles are comedy or him playing a regular blue-collar guy. That, and I think that he's too popular for anyone to see him disappear into the role of Wayne/Batman. I still hope the movie is good.
I agree with JimmyArrow below. Affleck's best roles are comedy or him playing a regular blue-collar guy. That, and I think that he's too popular for anyone to see him disappear into the role of Wayne/Batman. I still hope the movie is good.
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6:06PM on 10/23/2015

Yeah right. whatever dude?

totally Agree with RichterJet..

Why is there so much resentment in your words in this article.. if you don't like the film don't write about it please.. if you don't like the story let someone else do it. All you did was make smart ass comments about the quotes, any Marvel Fan boy can do that, or any troll for that matter.. Movie fans, Comic book fans of all sorts come on this site to get informed, not read sarcastic remarks about why Bruce is upset, and that Ben is deflecting answers
totally Agree with RichterJet..

Why is there so much resentment in your words in this article.. if you don't like the film don't write about it please.. if you don't like the story let someone else do it. All you did was make smart ass comments about the quotes, any Marvel Fan boy can do that, or any troll for that matter.. Movie fans, Comic book fans of all sorts come on this site to get informed, not read sarcastic remarks about why Bruce is upset, and that Ben is deflecting answers about directing a solo film. Please hold yourself a little higher, it is embarrassing, as well as lack of professionalism here.. This article belongs on some basement dwelling blogger troll's site.


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6:22PM on 10/23/2015
possibly an attempt at humor?
possibly an attempt at humor?
5:41PM on 10/24/2015
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His previous articles are no better, Im sure you can tell by the peoples posts that we are getting sick of it.

Condescension is what is plastered all over this article, if he's trying for humour then he is failing miserably.
SamKellyb:

His previous articles are no better, Im sure you can tell by the peoples posts that we are getting sick of it.

Condescension is what is plastered all over this article, if he's trying for humour then he is failing miserably.
2:26PM on 10/26/2015
No resentment at all. Very much curious and interested in what story Snyder is looking to tell here, and I am hoping for an improvement upon MAN OF STEEL.

However, the geek persecution complex prevents too many people from seeing it, because even when I explicitly say so, it's the few not-so-friendly words that get all the attention. And that's a shame.
No resentment at all. Very much curious and interested in what story Snyder is looking to tell here, and I am hoping for an improvement upon MAN OF STEEL.

However, the geek persecution complex prevents too many people from seeing it, because even when I explicitly say so, it's the few not-so-friendly words that get all the attention. And that's a shame.
5:59PM on 10/23/2015

Still think Affleck is miscast

He's not necessarily a bad actor but he's not what you would call an intense one. Rage, anger, etc... Those emotions just aren't part of his palette and every time he tries to portray them, his acting shows. I can imagine Christian Bale having the crazy intensity needed to start a crusade against crime but Affleck just seems so laid back.
He's not necessarily a bad actor but he's not what you would call an intense one. Rage, anger, etc... Those emotions just aren't part of his palette and every time he tries to portray them, his acting shows. I can imagine Christian Bale having the crazy intensity needed to start a crusade against crime but Affleck just seems so laid back.
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5:51PM on 10/23/2015
What's with the blatant sarcasm here throughout the entire article?
What's with the blatant sarcasm here throughout the entire article?
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2:24PM on 10/26/2015
I don't know about "throughout," but in Affleck trying to pretend that he's not going to make one of these solo Batman movies in the future, most definitely.
I don't know about "throughout," but in Affleck trying to pretend that he's not going to make one of these solo Batman movies in the future, most definitely.
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