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08.10.2015

New details regarding the failure of THE FANTASTIC FOUR have come to light. We have added them to the end of this article.

By now, we all know the critical consensus is that FANTASTIC FOUR sucks. Virtually nothing positive has been said about Josh Trank's first big studio film with the blame being put squarely on his shoulders and the studio. Now, Trank himself has voiced an opinion via Twitter that could potentially burn all bridges within the Hollywood system.

Josh Trank posted a tweet yesterday that he has since deleted. But, this being the world of the Internet, screen captures of the tweet will live on for an eternity. Here is what Trank wrote.

Instead of taking any responsibility for the critical failures of FANTASTIC FOUR, Josh Trank instead throws the entire film under the bus and claims the studio changed the film since last year. Our own Chris Bumbray's review found virtually nothing worth watching in FANTASTIC FOUR from the subpar pacing, plot, execution, and special effects. Could Trank's version have been completely different and worth the price of admission? Possibly, but I find that very hard to believe.

Since FANTASTIC FOUR began production, Trank has been the subject of rumors regarding his diva-like behavior on the set of the film as well as his departure from the STAR WARS anthology film he was set to direct. While this latest tweet shows a level of immaturity that could confirm those rumors, we don't have nearly enough facts to draw such a conclusion.

The bottom line here is that FANTASTIC FOUR was never marketed as coming "from the director of CHRONICLE" but rather "from the studio that brought you X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST" and that does not instill any confidence in the creative path of the film's development. Almost everyone had a bad feeling about this movie from the get go and the disagreement between the filmmaker and the studio behind it doesn't alleviate any of the ill reception the film is getting. The movie just debuted in theaters and it is already dead and buried. So much for that already announced sequel.

FANTASTIC FOUR is now playing.

UPDATE: CHRONICLE screenwriter Max Landis has added his two cents to the entire FANTASTIC FOUR debacle by clearing up the misconceptions that are pegging Josh Trank as an independent filmmaker who sold out to the studio system. Interesting reminders:

UPDATE #1: Well, now that THE FANTASTIC FOUR has completely shit the bed, new information is coming to light about what the hell happened to Josh Trank's film. On Collider Movie Talk, John Campea revealed sources within 20th Century Fox who confirmed major changes were made to Trank's film just before production began.

"I've got a source, fairly close to the production of this film, who had told me that the movie that Josh Trank and Fox had agreed on making — included 3 really big action set pieces. That was all agreed upon, it was part of the flow of the movie. And a movie is like a puzzle, you have all the pieces in place. You start messing with pieces and suddenly the whole puzzle can look out of whack. And they had agreed upon this vision for a film. And days before production began, Fox came in and made him pull 3 main action sequences out of the film. I was also told, the ending of the film was not even Josh Trank's. At some point they hijacked the editing bay from him. To the point that the editing of the film was done without him."

Well, if that does in fact end up being true, that could definitely explain why Trank felt okay in throwing his movie under the bus the day it hit theaters. It doesn't justify his behavior, but it does make some more sense.

UPDATE #2: Estimates say Josh Trank may have cost 20th Century Fox approximately $10 million with his tweet. But, as cries begin surrounding the demand for Marvel Studios to get the rights back to THE FANTASTIC FOUR, Comic Book Dot Com has done the math and found that there is no need for Fox to begin production on a new film featuring Marvel's first family until 2022 with a release date in 2023. The studio may say they are behind continuing the franchise, but it could be at least seven years before that happens. Maybe that sequel slot can be used for DEADPOOL 2 instead.

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12:32AM on 08/11/2015
In an alternative universe, Josh Trank got fired as director of the Fantastic Four and we actually got a good Fantastic Four movie.
In an alternative universe, Josh Trank got fired as director of the Fantastic Four and we actually got a good Fantastic Four movie.
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9:13PM on 08/10/2015
When a movie does well and is well liked ie dark knight. It's all the director. Nolan is a genius nothing to do with producers etc. when a movie is hated then it's the studio or producers.
FYI the studio is always going to be in there. They are giving you money. Hello. Look at the antman problem with wright not seeing eye to eye. Antman was great even with these director /studio problems. This guy trank never wanted a faithful ff movie he wanted his own version. But is angry that the studio
When a movie does well and is well liked ie dark knight. It's all the director. Nolan is a genius nothing to do with producers etc. when a movie is hated then it's the studio or producers.
FYI the studio is always going to be in there. They are giving you money. Hello. Look at the antman problem with wright not seeing eye to eye. Antman was great even with these director /studio problems. This guy trank never wanted a faithful ff movie he wanted his own version. But is angry that the studio got its version, that's if we believe him. Too bad both versions sucked.
Ps ff is not a shit comic I have been reading from issue one and it's great. It was the flagship title for marvel. These characters are great and can be done well in the right hands.
Go find those hands.
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8:57PM on 08/10/2015
It's kind odd, isn't it? Studio executives wanted to pull out 3 action sequences? Shouldn't that be the other way around? More action scenes, more explosion, more slow motion, more chance to sell action figures? Just thinking.
It's kind odd, isn't it? Studio executives wanted to pull out 3 action sequences? Shouldn't that be the other way around? More action scenes, more explosion, more slow motion, more chance to sell action figures? Just thinking.
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7:34PM on 08/10/2015
I just read the article about the 12 missing scenes and I can honestly say I hate the movie even more now. But I'm also confused about who to mad at. The editor of the film or the editors of the trailers? If the trailer would've actually shown scenes that were in the movie people wouldn't have been so disappointed.
I just read the article about the 12 missing scenes and I can honestly say I hate the movie even more now. But I'm also confused about who to mad at. The editor of the film or the editors of the trailers? If the trailer would've actually shown scenes that were in the movie people wouldn't have been so disappointed.
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5:35PM on 08/10/2015

A note to aspiring film directors:

Read anonymous internet comments for sound career advice.
Read anonymous internet comments for sound career advice.
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8:43PM on 08/09/2015

I'm not buying Trank's claims of studio interference for a second and here's why...

When studio execs interfere, what do they do? They make you toss in more action, more humor, more romance, when it doesn't really belong there. Except for this movie is almost entirely devoid of those elements. I mean can you really see a Fox exec saying "We want more characters standing in a lab talking pseudo-science for scene after scene?" Because that's exactly what we got. Even aside from that, based on Chronicle this seems to have Trank's stamp all over it. I mean I could see people
When studio execs interfere, what do they do? They make you toss in more action, more humor, more romance, when it doesn't really belong there. Except for this movie is almost entirely devoid of those elements. I mean can you really see a Fox exec saying "We want more characters standing in a lab talking pseudo-science for scene after scene?" Because that's exactly what we got. Even aside from that, based on Chronicle this seems to have Trank's stamp all over it. I mean I could see people making a valid argument that this is less of an adaptation of the FF comics and more an adaptation of Chronicle. I think it's just a case of a young director not wanting to accept responsibility for a crap movie he made, because he's worried that if he does it will hamper his career.
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4:03PM on 08/10/2015
I had the same initial reaction than you about the action scenes. "It makes no sense", I thought. "Why would any studio do that?" Except that I just read an article where they count 12 scenes present in the trailers that are missing from the final reel, including a scene where the Thing is airdropped and another where he's shot at. They might be part of the same scene but we can definitely tell for sure that some actions scenes were cut, possibly from the middle section.

I'm not absolving
I had the same initial reaction than you about the action scenes. "It makes no sense", I thought. "Why would any studio do that?" Except that I just read an article where they count 12 scenes present in the trailers that are missing from the final reel, including a scene where the Thing is airdropped and another where he's shot at. They might be part of the same scene but we can definitely tell for sure that some actions scenes were cut, possibly from the middle section.

I'm not absolving Trank of all the blame because some of his ideas were just wrong from the get-go but it looks to me like he's telling the truth about Fox' involvement. Fantastic Four + Josh Trank + Fox just look like a match made in hell.
5:29PM on 08/09/2015
It wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened. Both Blade Runner and Lynch's Dune are famous for studio interference.

It's what the pseudonym Alan Smithee is used for.
It wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened. Both Blade Runner and Lynch's Dune are famous for studio interference.

It's what the pseudonym Alan Smithee is used for.
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2:17PM on 08/09/2015

Hmmm

It's fantastic four. The comics sucked, its just shit.
It's fantastic four. The comics sucked, its just shit.
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4:35PM on 08/08/2015

Chronicle sucked balls, this was worse and more of the same

Chronicle was about stupid kids hating themselves and crying over everything. F4 was just the same but not shot on shitteo.
Chronicle was about stupid kids hating themselves and crying over everything. F4 was just the same but not shot on shitteo.
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10:42AM on 08/08/2015
You conveniently left out the part where a large majority of the crew couldn't stand working with Trank ( [link] ), and claim that he was terrible at simple communication with the cast and crew. As a director communication is the highest skill you need. If you can't communicate properly with the crew, if you throw a fit like a brat by randomly going into hiding, then you are in over your head and SHOULDN'T be there.
You conveniently left out the part where a large majority of the crew couldn't stand working with Trank ( [link] ), and claim that he was terrible at simple communication with the cast and crew. As a director communication is the highest skill you need. If you can't communicate properly with the crew, if you throw a fit like a brat by randomly going into hiding, then you are in over your head and SHOULDN'T be there.
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10:00AM on 08/08/2015

Once Again, The Big Bad Studios 'Crush' Artistic Integrity...

Let's put aside, for a moment, that said ' Artist' had exactly one credit to his name, and said 'artist' reported behavior got him fired from what could have been an incredibly lucrative project with 100% backing, and had said 'artist' been able to reign in his ' artistic behavior', and delivered movies to the Studio on time, and in budget..you know, like Christopher Nolan does....This ' Artist' might, just might have earned the right to have some more 'artistic freedom' when it came to his
Let's put aside, for a moment, that said ' Artist' had exactly one credit to his name, and said 'artist' reported behavior got him fired from what could have been an incredibly lucrative project with 100% backing, and had said 'artist' been able to reign in his ' artistic behavior', and delivered movies to the Studio on time, and in budget..you know, like Christopher Nolan does....This ' Artist' might, just might have earned the right to have some more 'artistic freedom' when it came to his projects in the future. NOW, that he's disowned the film, the cast, everything to do with his project...Blamed everyone and everything except himself....He can go back to making films in a purer fashion...in his basement, where noone will 'corrupt' his ' artistic vision'...and noone will see his 'art' that he doesn't want them to see it...Oh, those BIG, BAD Studios...expecting to get a return on a product. I mean, C'mon... how much does an ' Artist' have to put up with...'Artistic freedom' AND commerce???
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9:13AM on 08/08/2015
i remember reading once that Duncan jones was asked just before source code came out if he'd direct a star wars film and he said no as he was still new to film making and wouldn't do it justice. think josh trank could learn something from him
i remember reading once that Duncan jones was asked just before source code came out if he'd direct a star wars film and he said no as he was still new to film making and wouldn't do it justice. think josh trank could learn something from him
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3:41AM on 08/08/2015

I can make a better movie

just saying
just saying
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1:15AM on 08/08/2015
LOL in the words of Peter Griffin, OMG who the hell cares?
LOL in the words of Peter Griffin, OMG who the hell cares?
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3:37AM on 08/08/2015
Lol!!
Lol!!
11:37PM on 08/07/2015
Have you SEEN Fantastic Four? I'm embarrassed to tell people I WATCHED it, so I couldn't imagine my name being associated with it either...

And as far as Max Landis is concerned, he should just enjoy the nepotism and shut his trap already.
Have you SEEN Fantastic Four? I'm embarrassed to tell people I WATCHED it, so I couldn't imagine my name being associated with it either...

And as far as Max Landis is concerned, he should just enjoy the nepotism and shut his trap already.
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11:01PM on 08/07/2015
There could be a good movie there without studio interference, but I'm pretty sure it's still not a Fantastic Four movie.
There could be a good movie there without studio interference, but I'm pretty sure it's still not a Fantastic Four movie.
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9:58PM on 08/07/2015

You can kiss that Hollywood career bye-bye, Josh Trank

Pointing fingers and laying blame on the first weekend is a highly unprofessional move. Even Terence Stamp and Natalie Portman waited 16 years before trashing THE PHANTOM MENACE, and one would argue that they had a greater right to do so. Josh Trank will be very lucky if he gets another job in Hollywood after this. A pity: I really liked CHRONICLE.
Pointing fingers and laying blame on the first weekend is a highly unprofessional move. Even Terence Stamp and Natalie Portman waited 16 years before trashing THE PHANTOM MENACE, and one would argue that they had a greater right to do so. Josh Trank will be very lucky if he gets another job in Hollywood after this. A pity: I really liked CHRONICLE.
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8:59PM on 08/07/2015

Having seen it

There were some things I thought were very cool, but the tone of the movie is all over the place. Some parts are so bad your jaw will drop. Just some straight up cheese that I can only imagine is what Trank is talking about. I think there's some truth to what he's saying. His version may have been no better, but it didn't fit the mold, so they altered it which and made it even worse. Movie's just a complete waits unfortunately. Sucks that he's considered a failure for something he had
There were some things I thought were very cool, but the tone of the movie is all over the place. Some parts are so bad your jaw will drop. Just some straight up cheese that I can only imagine is what Trank is talking about. I think there's some truth to what he's saying. His version may have been no better, but it didn't fit the mold, so they altered it which and made it even worse. Movie's just a complete waits unfortunately. Sucks that he's considered a failure for something he had no control over. I can't imagine though how his version could be worse than what I saw.
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11:50PM on 08/07/2015
Well to be fair, he had enough control to make a movie that was so bad the studio felt like it had to take over to salvage it (and his behavior was so bizarre he lost himself Star Wars in the process).
Well to be fair, he had enough control to make a movie that was so bad the studio felt like it had to take over to salvage it (and his behavior was so bizarre he lost himself Star Wars in the process).
12:16AM on 08/11/2015
*waste
*waste
7:30PM on 08/07/2015
Both Josh Trank and Max Landis can shut up. Even Halle Berry took full responsibility of bad acting on her part in Catwoman by accepting Razzie Award for Worst Actress for Catwoman in person. Think about that, Mr. Trank.
Both Josh Trank and Max Landis can shut up. Even Halle Berry took full responsibility of bad acting on her part in Catwoman by accepting Razzie Award for Worst Actress for Catwoman in person. Think about that, Mr. Trank.
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7:19PM on 08/07/2015
From what I read, the guy is a real douche bag. [link] & [link]

After the studio fired him for all the shit he was doing on set, they kicked him and his girlfriend out of the studio's apartment they were living in. Before they left, they trashed the place and smeared shit on the walls. This guys doesn't belong anywhere near a Star Wars movie. I was actually pulling for this movie to be good since everyone was against it but after the shit reviews and the on set stories, I'm glad its not
From what I read, the guy is a real douche bag. [link] & [link]

After the studio fired him for all the shit he was doing on set, they kicked him and his girlfriend out of the studio's apartment they were living in. Before they left, they trashed the place and smeared shit on the walls. This guys doesn't belong anywhere near a Star Wars movie. I was actually pulling for this movie to be good since everyone was against it but after the shit reviews and the on set stories, I'm glad its not doing well. I do feel back for the actors
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7:04PM on 08/07/2015

No doubt in my mind.....

.....that the reason the studio stepped in was because of how badly the shoot was going. The stories about the problems on set are legendary and there was a legitimate reason he was fired from Star Wars (and it sure wasn't because internet commenters were spreading rumors). The very first story we heard from this film was how the actors were told not to get familiar with the source material because Trank decided to do something completely different. Many of us immediately thought this was
.....that the reason the studio stepped in was because of how badly the shoot was going. The stories about the problems on set are legendary and there was a legitimate reason he was fired from Star Wars (and it sure wasn't because internet commenters were spreading rumors). The very first story we heard from this film was how the actors were told not to get familiar with the source material because Trank decided to do something completely different. Many of us immediately thought this was going in the wrong direction. Add in the dumb brother/adopted sister angle (which changes the actual dynamic of the comic) and the idea to make Doom a blogger (who was originally named Domichev until the negative response made them change it) with super powers was idiotic beyond reason. At least the last version had a genius who was a wealthy CEO (so he started from a position of power and his arc made sense). It may have been mediocre, but that's FAR better than what Trank decided to do.
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7:17PM on 08/07/2015
I said ages ago its basically gonna be Chronicle 2.
I said ages ago its basically gonna be Chronicle 2.
5:50PM on 08/07/2015
If there was a studio clash, he shouldn't have waited this long until poor reviews came in to complain. He should've rallied the cast to support him, publicly.

Also, that tweet reply to Landis about "independent" only meaning "small" is stupid. Independent just means any project made independently of studios and commercial properties. Independent films can be large or have a large budget, it's not about money, it's about who's creating them.
If there was a studio clash, he shouldn't have waited this long until poor reviews came in to complain. He should've rallied the cast to support him, publicly.

Also, that tweet reply to Landis about "independent" only meaning "small" is stupid. Independent just means any project made independently of studios and commercial properties. Independent films can be large or have a large budget, it's not about money, it's about who's creating them.
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5:35PM on 08/09/2015
That's absolutely correct. Hell, the Star Wars prequels are independent films strictly speaking.
That's absolutely correct. Hell, the Star Wars prequels are independent films strictly speaking.
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5:28PM on 08/07/2015
You can get into situations where you're trying to make a film/show that's good, and the people that ultimately have the say on it have no idea what they're talking about. It happens in TV, and in film, all the time. And it can utterly destroy something that could have been great. I've no idea if the on-set rumours are true, and if they are, then maybe it's just desserts for Trank. But if it genuinely is a case of the studio destroying a creative with a vision, then fair play to Trank for
You can get into situations where you're trying to make a film/show that's good, and the people that ultimately have the say on it have no idea what they're talking about. It happens in TV, and in film, all the time. And it can utterly destroy something that could have been great. I've no idea if the on-set rumours are true, and if they are, then maybe it's just desserts for Trank. But if it genuinely is a case of the studio destroying a creative with a vision, then fair play to Trank for having the guts to speak out on it, despite the deleted tweet. I guess we won't know, at least for now.
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5:10PM on 08/07/2015
Maybe true, maybe not, but is it bad form to disown the movie the day its released? Is he going to give the money back he made directing if less people show because of his twitter comments?
Maybe true, maybe not, but is it bad form to disown the movie the day its released? Is he going to give the money back he made directing if less people show because of his twitter comments?
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4:56PM on 08/07/2015
To be honest I really had hoped it would have at least have been decent. But what was Trank thinking dissing on the film on the opening weekend!
If you listen very carefully, you can hear a career ending...
To be honest I really had hoped it would have at least have been decent. But what was Trank thinking dissing on the film on the opening weekend!
If you listen very carefully, you can hear a career ending...
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8:09PM on 08/07/2015
You can actually barely be paying attention and hear the very same thing lol
You can actually barely be paying attention and hear the very same thing lol
4:43PM on 08/07/2015
If he felt the studio was interfering, he should have walked. How different could his "version" have been when day 1 was "This isn't going to be a comic book movie". Then maybe don't take on a property about comic books.
That's like saying "We are rebooting Nightmare On Elm Street again but this time it will be a romantic comedy"...actually...that could be funny.
If he felt the studio was interfering, he should have walked. How different could his "version" have been when day 1 was "This isn't going to be a comic book movie". Then maybe don't take on a property about comic books.
That's like saying "We are rebooting Nightmare On Elm Street again but this time it will be a romantic comedy"...actually...that could be funny.
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4:31PM on 08/07/2015
This was just a bad idea from the beginning. The movie is dark, brooding, and gritty which the Fantastic Four aren't in any way possible. The fact that Trank told all of the core cast members to not read any of the comics was another mistake, and the fact that everyone in this film was miscast as fuck (Jaime Bell as The Thing?????). It's just astonishing how badly Trank and Fox screwed this film up. The Fantastic Four should be one of the easiest comic book properties to make a comic book film
This was just a bad idea from the beginning. The movie is dark, brooding, and gritty which the Fantastic Four aren't in any way possible. The fact that Trank told all of the core cast members to not read any of the comics was another mistake, and the fact that everyone in this film was miscast as fuck (Jaime Bell as The Thing?????). It's just astonishing how badly Trank and Fox screwed this film up. The Fantastic Four should be one of the easiest comic book properties to make a comic book film out of considering there powers and how 'fantastic' their universe is. The Tim Story films weren't the best films ever, but at least the films were fun, and embraced what made the Fantastic Four fun and exciting. And the tone in my opinion (at the time) was spot on.

If the rights go back to Marvel (which I think they are and should), I would love to see Marvel hire Brad Bird to helm considering his excellent team work and dynamic in his films The Incredibles, and Ghost Protocol.
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5:12PM on 08/07/2015
Way too much experimentation going on with the casting. The casting of Michael B. Jordan, regardless of his talent, clearly reeked of the filmmakers wanting to make a statement on colorblind casting.
Way too much experimentation going on with the casting. The casting of Michael B. Jordan, regardless of his talent, clearly reeked of the filmmakers wanting to make a statement on colorblind casting.
6:49PM on 08/07/2015
Someone asked the other day why studios kept screwing up films like this. I told him it was because the people in charge thought they were smarter than the rest of us. We wanted to see a really well-made, exciting Fantastic Four film. Trank decided he wanted to take the FF concept and completely change it, then use that product to tell a story he was interested in. In other words, screw you guys, I'll decide what's best for you.

Juxtapose that with Deadpool, a film that has done
Someone asked the other day why studios kept screwing up films like this. I told him it was because the people in charge thought they were smarter than the rest of us. We wanted to see a really well-made, exciting Fantastic Four film. Trank decided he wanted to take the FF concept and completely change it, then use that product to tell a story he was interested in. In other words, screw you guys, I'll decide what's best for you.

Juxtapose that with Deadpool, a film that has done EVERYTHING right, every step of the way. The same studio, some of the same people behind the scenes, and even inferior actors (sorry Ryan Reynolds), yet they gave the fans EXACTLY what we wanted and the response has been one of the most overwhelmingly positive in recent memory (and the film looks like it could be a critical success as well).

I'd love to say that maybe Hollywood will learn something, but we all know they won't. The same people who think they're smarter will still think they're smarter tomorrow. The only way we get the films we want are when a really good (and intelligent) director gets one of these and decides to make it for the fans. Then you see good reviews, good buzz, and lots (and lots) of box office success.
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4:29PM on 08/07/2015
Garfield, daddy daycare, gullivers travels, marmaduke? Haha ouch who wants to be in that company?
Garfield, daddy daycare, gullivers travels, marmaduke? Haha ouch who wants to be in that company?
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3:54PM on 08/07/2015

Seriously

Joel Schumacher & Sam Raimi waitited years to dis-own their films.
Josh does it on the day of release. real professional.
If you were to dis your employer on a social media platform you could risk losing your job. I guess Mr. Trank never learned that.
Joel Schumacher & Sam Raimi waitited years to dis-own their films.
Josh does it on the day of release. real professional.
If you were to dis your employer on a social media platform you could risk losing your job. I guess Mr. Trank never learned that.
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3:38PM on 08/07/2015
People are coming down on him hard, I don't think most of you understand how these major studios work. If Whedon was unhappy with how Marvel Studios leaned on him for Ultron, I can imagine that Fox had massive interference with this film. I believe him. I haven't seen it, not sure I will. But a lot of what I've heard is the first half is great, and the ending falls apart (studio interference, reshoots, shit)
People are coming down on him hard, I don't think most of you understand how these major studios work. If Whedon was unhappy with how Marvel Studios leaned on him for Ultron, I can imagine that Fox had massive interference with this film. I believe him. I haven't seen it, not sure I will. But a lot of what I've heard is the first half is great, and the ending falls apart (studio interference, reshoots, shit)
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3:44PM on 08/07/2015
I heard the same about the first part but I heard just as many (if not more) people complaining that there was no action during that part and that film was all set-up and exposition. I don't think that part is the studio's fault. I think that the general impression most people had when they saw the first trailer - that it was very Interstellar-y - was an accurate perception of what Trank was going for and I don't think many people would've liked that.
I heard the same about the first part but I heard just as many (if not more) people complaining that there was no action during that part and that film was all set-up and exposition. I don't think that part is the studio's fault. I think that the general impression most people had when they saw the first trailer - that it was very Interstellar-y - was an accurate perception of what Trank was going for and I don't think many people would've liked that.
6:53PM on 08/07/2015
I don't see how you can believe him. The stories of the mess that filming became (which is what prompted Fox to interfere) is legendary. It also preceded him being fired from Star Wars, and that doesn't happen over an internet rumor.

More likely, his version was turning into crap (and going over-budget) so the studio stepped in. The problem is, they didn't make it any better because if they could direct, they would already be doing so. So we got a crap movie that doesn't make any sense
I don't see how you can believe him. The stories of the mess that filming became (which is what prompted Fox to interfere) is legendary. It also preceded him being fired from Star Wars, and that doesn't happen over an internet rumor.

More likely, his version was turning into crap (and going over-budget) so the studio stepped in. The problem is, they didn't make it any better because if they could direct, they would already be doing so. So we got a crap movie that doesn't make any sense because it's two crap movies crammed together.
3:56PM on 08/10/2015
One of my friends told me after seeing it that it sort of reminded him of a Cronenberg "body horror" movie, kinda like "The Fly". He said he probably would've enjoyed it more if the movie followed that, and strayed completely from the source material. I'm not the biggest Fant Four Stick fan, so I would totally be down for that, if there is a Trank cut of the film we'd be able to see.
One of my friends told me after seeing it that it sort of reminded him of a Cronenberg "body horror" movie, kinda like "The Fly". He said he probably would've enjoyed it more if the movie followed that, and strayed completely from the source material. I'm not the biggest Fant Four Stick fan, so I would totally be down for that, if there is a Trank cut of the film we'd be able to see.
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3:37PM on 08/07/2015

You hear that kids?

That's the sound of someone's career ending.
That's the sound of someone's career ending.
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3:37PM on 08/07/2015
So glad he got dropped for Star Wars, the guy's an amateur who doesn't respect the source material.
So glad he got dropped for Star Wars, the guy's an amateur who doesn't respect the source material.
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3:31PM on 08/07/2015

He flew too high too quickly

Would Chris Nolan have been ready if Batman Begins had started shooting right after Following? I don't think so. Trank only had one film under his belt when he was given the reins of a major franchise. Since the beginning, he looked stuck in quicksand, with every move he made sinking him deeper. This tweet just made sure there would be no sequel made and put his big studio career in jeopardy. The film's release day is TODAY!
Would Chris Nolan have been ready if Batman Begins had started shooting right after Following? I don't think so. Trank only had one film under his belt when he was given the reins of a major franchise. Since the beginning, he looked stuck in quicksand, with every move he made sinking him deeper. This tweet just made sure there would be no sequel made and put his big studio career in jeopardy. The film's release day is TODAY!
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3:25PM on 08/07/2015
Yeah, that sounds about right. There was talks of reshoots. He just confirmed those reshoots probably happened.
Yeah, that sounds about right. There was talks of reshoots. He just confirmed those reshoots probably happened.
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6:56PM on 08/07/2015
Or the reshoots happened because the original product was going so badly there was no faith he could pull it together.

Or do you think he was fired from Star Wars based on random internet rumors?
Or the reshoots happened because the original product was going so badly there was no faith he could pull it together.

Or do you think he was fired from Star Wars based on random internet rumors?
11:24PM on 08/07/2015
From what I have heard, Mara's hair is confirmation enough of reshoots.
From what I have heard, Mara's hair is confirmation enough of reshoots.
3:23PM on 08/07/2015
Wow, didn't see this coming. Even if the movie bombs and gets shitty reviews, why come out and be completely unprofessional.
Wow, didn't see this coming. Even if the movie bombs and gets shitty reviews, why come out and be completely unprofessional.
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3:17PM on 08/07/2015

I think the general consensus is and I also think I speak for most Schmoes when I say...

We called it.

Love how he says "A year ago I had a "fantastic" (pun intended?) version of this" lmao That made me laugh.

Good though. Glad our collective negative perception since day one made it fail. This was like a still birth (not to downplay the atrocity of that); it was dead way before it even had a chance. Now... As for Trank... I doubt he'll ever find decent work again. He has leveled himself to McG status. I'm just glad he didn't take on any Star Wars projects because then he'd
We called it.

Love how he says "A year ago I had a "fantastic" (pun intended?) version of this" lmao That made me laugh.

Good though. Glad our collective negative perception since day one made it fail. This was like a still birth (not to downplay the atrocity of that); it was dead way before it even had a chance. Now... As for Trank... I doubt he'll ever find decent work again. He has leveled himself to McG status. I'm just glad he didn't take on any Star Wars projects because then he'd blame the studio for that too...
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3:40PM on 08/07/2015
Seriously. He talks about some "fantastic version", give me a break. He wanted to meld the Fantastic Four with Cronenberg-style body horror! Everything about this movie was wrong from the beginning.
Seriously. He talks about some "fantastic version", give me a break. He wanted to meld the Fantastic Four with Cronenberg-style body horror! Everything about this movie was wrong from the beginning.
7:10PM on 08/07/2015
I wondered if the whole 'everyone is racist' which is why the film failed argument was ever gonna come into it.
I wondered if the whole 'everyone is racist' which is why the film failed argument was ever gonna come into it.
3:15PM on 08/07/2015
I suppose its not very nice to hear that your work sucks. Having said that, if a year ago Trank was having these issues, he should have walked away from the project. Not wait until the film was released and then throw the toys out of the pram.
I suppose its not very nice to hear that your work sucks. Having said that, if a year ago Trank was having these issues, he should have walked away from the project. Not wait until the film was released and then throw the toys out of the pram.
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