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Cast This: Carnage (in Sony's Spider-Man spinoff Venom)

07.07.2017

Before Spider-Man could swing into his own solo Marvel Cinematic Universe adventure with SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING, Sony was already preparing a series of movies starring the wall-crawler's comic book supporting characters, beginning with supervillain/antihero VENOM.

Tom Hardy will wear the living black suit with the flailing tongue, but there seems to be some confusion as to whether the Tom Holland incarnation of Spidey will make an appearance (Marvel honcho Kevin Feige most recently indicated it wouldn't happen), or if the character will even be directly referenced. But we recently learned that regardless of whether web-head himself is involved in the movie, the plan is to have Venom face the vicious villain Carnage.

So where did Carnage come from? Well, let's take a few steps back to Marvel's 1984 comic crossover event "Secret Wars", in which Spider-Man acquired a nifty black "smart" costume equipped with built-in web-shooters and power-enhancing properties. However, after wearing the outfit for some time, Spidey learned it was actually a sentient alien parasite that was adversely affecting both his physiology and his life, and he forced it from his body.

The symbiote survived and bonded with Eddie Brock, a disgraced journalist with a serious grudge against Spider-Man. Fueled by their mutual hatred of the superhero, the pair became the menacing archenemy Venom. The malevolent amorphous extraterrestrial was also capable of reproducing, which resulted in other symbiote villains such as Scream, Toxin, Hybrid, and the most notorious of them all: Carnage.

One of Venom's offspring merged with a sadistic serial killer named Cletus Kasady, magnifying his psychotic tendencies to become the murderous entity known as Carnage. Infamous for his chaotic red-and-black visage, Carnage is driven by Kasady's destructive and homicidal urges, and becomes a nemesis to both Spider-Man and Venom.

Kasady began his bloodthirsty ways as a child, pushing his grandmother down a flight of stairs and burning his orphanage to the ground before continuing a lifelong killing spree. During his incarceration as an adult, Kasady wound up sharing a cell with Eddie Brock (locked up after a defeat by Spider-Man), establishing the initial connection between the hosts. When Brock's symbiote returned and allowed him to break out of jail, it unwittingly left behind a spawn that grafted to Kasady and created a savage new villain with a violent resentment toward Venom, the "father" that abandoned it.

Attached to their human host, each symbiote has the ability to change shape and size, disguising itself as regular clothes or transforming into deadly weapons. They also retain abilities from previous hosts, granting Spider-Man's increased strength and wall-crawling power (plus the suit's organic webbing) to both Venom and Carnage. The outfit also makes its wearer resistant to physical harm, but is vulnerable to intense sound, extreme heat and high-voltage electricity.

The origins and motivations of the characters may change from their comic versions for Sony's VENOM adaptation, but core aspects will surely remain. Although Carnage itself will undoubtedly be realized on screen through a significant amount of CGI, that wicked symbiote will still need a human host -- especially one that could out-crazy a superpowered Tom Hardy.

So who should play antisocial lunatic Cletus Kasady? Here's a few suggestions.

Damian Lewis ("Homeland", "Band of Brothers") is a fine actor with plenty of intensity, and somehow hasn't been in one of these huge comic movies yet. Ben Mendelsohn was relatively subdued in ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY but seems like he could make a terrific and terrifying over-the-top villain. Kristofer Hivju, probably best known from "Game of Thrones", could definitely crank up the crazy.

Let us know below who you think would make a killer Carnage!

As for the previous CAST THIS column, your choices for an actress to go green as Marvel's She-Hulk were:

1. Angie Harmon  2. Jessica Biel  3. Blake Lively

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8:02AM on 07/10/2017
Lot of great suggestions, but what ab the guy from ex machina, and plays the other villain in TFA? One of the weasleys. He's fn great.
Lot of great suggestions, but what ab the guy from ex machina, and plays the other villain in TFA? One of the weasleys. He's fn great.
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7:19PM on 07/08/2017

I'm going to go with

JIM CARREY! He played the green version of carnage in the grinch that stole christmas so this shouldnt be too hard or different.
JIM CARREY! He played the green version of carnage in the grinch that stole christmas so this shouldnt be too hard or different.
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7:21PM on 07/08/2017
PS obviously that is just a joke. so dont get crazy u crazies
PS obviously that is just a joke. so dont get crazy u crazies
12:42PM on 07/08/2017
Sharlto Copley. He was a great maniac in Elysium.
Sharlto Copley. He was a great maniac in Elysium.
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7:28PM on 07/08/2017
I didn't care much for Elysium, but Copley made it worth the stay.
I didn't care much for Elysium, but Copley made it worth the stay.
1:17AM on 07/09/2017
Ooh I like that a lot!
Ooh I like that a lot!
2:07AM on 07/08/2017

Walton Goggins.

Ben Foster is getting thrown around a lot and I think he'd be great, but Walton Goggins would absolutely KILL as Cletus Kasady. He's the one, in my opinion.
Ben Foster is getting thrown around a lot and I think he'd be great, but Walton Goggins would absolutely KILL as Cletus Kasady. He's the one, in my opinion.
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9:48AM on 07/08/2017
Yep, he's one of the 5 names I tossed out.
Yep, he's one of the 5 names I tossed out.
9:48AM on 07/08/2017
Yep, he's one of the 5 names I tossed out.
Yep, he's one of the 5 names I tossed out.
9:51AM on 07/08/2017
I think you nailed it. When he played Boyd Crowder, he was the perfect combination of funny, crazy and devious.
I think you nailed it. When he played Boyd Crowder, he was the perfect combination of funny, crazy and devious.
7:27PM on 07/08/2017
I love your Walton Goggins choice. My favorite TV series was Justified and he was such a calculating sleaze-ball on that show.
I love your Walton Goggins choice. My favorite TV series was Justified and he was such a calculating sleaze-ball on that show.
1:25AM on 07/09/2017
luke319 I missed that! Great minds think alike!
Raleigh and Man with beard, yeah I'm actually watching season one of Justified (for the third time) and last night watching him I instantly thought of this article and knew I needed to come back and comment!
luke319 I missed that! Great minds think alike!
Raleigh and Man with beard, yeah I'm actually watching season one of Justified (for the third time) and last night watching him I instantly thought of this article and knew I needed to come back and comment!
2:46AM on 07/10/2017
I completely agree with you, Walton Goggins is a great actor who would play Carnage perfectly!!!!
I completely agree with you, Walton Goggins is a great actor who would play Carnage perfectly!!!!
11:11PM on 07/07/2017
Zach Ward. My first choice would be Jackie Earle Haley if he was just a bit younger.
Zach Ward. My first choice would be Jackie Earle Haley if he was just a bit younger.
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9:50AM on 07/08/2017
Jackie Earle Haley and John Hawkes would both be near the top of my list if they were a decade younger.
Jackie Earle Haley and John Hawkes would both be near the top of my list if they were a decade younger.
8:50PM on 07/07/2017
Ryan Gosling?
Ryan Gosling?
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7:05PM on 07/07/2017

Caleb Landry Jones

He was super creepy in both "Get Out" and "War on Everyone".
He was super creepy in both "Get Out" and "War on Everyone".
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6:36PM on 07/07/2017
I read literally hundreds of Spidey comics growing up and always thought Carnage was one of the blander villains (yeah, they eventually fleshed out his childhood, but he's basically crazy just for the sake of being crazy). That being said, he is a very intense villain and certainly iconic so I'll be excited to see who they cast. Cillian Murphy has been my top choice for a while, John Hawkes would be a close 2nd choice but is getting a little up there age-wise, Crispin Glover would round out my
I read literally hundreds of Spidey comics growing up and always thought Carnage was one of the blander villains (yeah, they eventually fleshed out his childhood, but he's basically crazy just for the sake of being crazy). That being said, he is a very intense villain and certainly iconic so I'll be excited to see who they cast. Cillian Murphy has been my top choice for a while, John Hawkes would be a close 2nd choice but is getting a little up there age-wise, Crispin Glover would round out my top 3 (although he'd be my ideal Norman Osborne). Walton Goggins would also be high on my list. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Michael C. Hall, I mean c'mon solid actor and already played a red-headed serial killer.
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3:03PM on 07/07/2017
I, too, thought of Ben Foster immediately.

Ben Foster
Alexander Skarsgård
Logan Marshall-Green
Kevin Alejandro
Aaron Ashmore
I, too, thought of Ben Foster immediately.

Ben Foster
Alexander Skarsgård
Logan Marshall-Green
Kevin Alejandro
Aaron Ashmore
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3:21PM on 07/07/2017
I like your Logan Marshall-Green choice. He was one of my choices, too, despite having already appeared in Spiderman: Homecoming, albeit in a small role. However, it should be mentioned that there is an uncanny similarity between Tom Hardy and Logan Marshall-Green. If the filmmakers reworked Kasady into being Brock's brother, that could make for an incredible showdown.
I like your Logan Marshall-Green choice. He was one of my choices, too, despite having already appeared in Spiderman: Homecoming, albeit in a small role. However, it should be mentioned that there is an uncanny similarity between Tom Hardy and Logan Marshall-Green. If the filmmakers reworked Kasady into being Brock's brother, that could make for an incredible showdown.
1:30PM on 07/07/2017

Jake Gyllenhaal

I vaguely recall his name coming up for the role a decade ago when Sam Raimi still held the reigns to the Spiderman franchise. Gyllenhaal was terribly miscast in Okja, but he's played crazy to much aplomb in films like Enemy and Nightcrawler. He's also shown his adeptness in bulking up for certain roles. He may be too much of a household name to cast opposite Tom Hardy, but I think he's a solid choice.

Lesser known actors who I think have a chance at Kasady are Boyd Holbrook, Dan Stevens,
I vaguely recall his name coming up for the role a decade ago when Sam Raimi still held the reigns to the Spiderman franchise. Gyllenhaal was terribly miscast in Okja, but he's played crazy to much aplomb in films like Enemy and Nightcrawler. He's also shown his adeptness in bulking up for certain roles. He may be too much of a household name to cast opposite Tom Hardy, but I think he's a solid choice.

Lesser known actors who I think have a chance at Kasady are Boyd Holbrook, Dan Stevens, Anson Mount, and James Badge Dale.
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4:18PM on 07/07/2017
carnage doesnt need to BULK UP. He's more lanky and tall than anything
carnage doesnt need to BULK UP. He's more lanky and tall than anything
6:19PM on 07/07/2017
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
6:38PM on 07/07/2017
Yeah, Carnage is never ripped the way that Carnge is, but if they were to go for a marquee name than Gyllenhaal would be a pretty good call.
Yeah, Carnage is never ripped the way that Carnge is, but if they were to go for a marquee name than Gyllenhaal would be a pretty good call.
8:28AM on 07/08/2017
Holbrook and Stevens are good
Holbrook and Stevens are good
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12:45PM on 07/07/2017
Kristofer Hivju is a very inspired choice!
Kristofer Hivju is a very inspired choice!
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12:35PM on 07/07/2017
Ben Foster for Carnage.

I would save Ben Mendelsohn for Norman Osborne/Green Goblin. And I would suggest Christoph Waltz for Doc Ock.
Ben Foster for Carnage.

I would save Ben Mendelsohn for Norman Osborne/Green Goblin. And I would suggest Christoph Waltz for Doc Ock.
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1:12PM on 07/07/2017
Those are all very solid choices. Personally, I'd love to see either Ben Mendelsohn or Michael Shannon tackle the Norman Osborn role.
Those are all very solid choices. Personally, I'd love to see either Ben Mendelsohn or Michael Shannon tackle the Norman Osborn role.
8:26AM on 07/08/2017
Great pics. And I'd like Ben to be used for more than a one off
Great pics. And I'd like Ben to be used for more than a one off
8:57PM on 07/08/2017
A combination of his characters from 30 Days of Night and Alpha Dog would be perfect!
A combination of his characters from 30 Days of Night and Alpha Dog would be perfect!
11:04AM on 07/07/2017

Everyone is so typical with their hopes...

Why am I the only one who thinks MATTHEW LILLARD would be a good fit for the role?? Hell, I'd even like to see Steven Ogg in the role
Why am I the only one who thinks MATTHEW LILLARD would be a good fit for the role?? Hell, I'd even like to see Steven Ogg in the role
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1:13PM on 07/07/2017
Matthew Lillard fifteen years ago would be good for an MTV-produced Venom spin-off.
Matthew Lillard fifteen years ago would be good for an MTV-produced Venom spin-off.
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11:01AM on 07/07/2017
Vincent. Cassel.
Vincent. Cassel.
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1:16PM on 07/07/2017
I accidentally down-voted, but I meant the opposite. Cassel would be great if the Venom movie has some flair. This is a terrific opinion.
I accidentally down-voted, but I meant the opposite. Cassel would be great if the Venom movie has some flair. This is a terrific opinion.
10:40AM on 07/07/2017
Ooohhhhhhh. Sony are going to fuck this up. I just know it.
Ooohhhhhhh. Sony are going to fuck this up. I just know it.
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10:36AM on 07/07/2017
Mendelsohn is actually an inspired choice.
Speaking of actors who can play crazy well, how about Ben Foster?
Mendelsohn is actually an inspired choice.
Speaking of actors who can play crazy well, how about Ben Foster?
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11:01AM on 07/07/2017
He looks too much like the guy who played Sandman...
He looks too much like the guy who played Sandman...
10:24AM on 07/07/2017
I've always thought Zack Ward would be the perfect Cassidy. He's got the red hair, lean muscular body type, and he's actually a pretty good actor, he just needs a shot. He also still looks like he's in his 20s. For those of you who don't recognize the name, Zack Ward played the bully Scut Farkus in A Christmas Story.
I've always thought Zack Ward would be the perfect Cassidy. He's got the red hair, lean muscular body type, and he's actually a pretty good actor, he just needs a shot. He also still looks like he's in his 20s. For those of you who don't recognize the name, Zack Ward played the bully Scut Farkus in A Christmas Story.
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10:21AM on 07/07/2017

#JonTuckerIsCarnage

The role should go to Jonathan Tucker. He's played a psycho on Hannibal and he's pretty unhinged on Kingdom. Easy choice #JonTuckerIsCarnage
The role should go to Jonathan Tucker. He's played a psycho on Hannibal and he's pretty unhinged on Kingdom. Easy choice #JonTuckerIsCarnage
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12:26PM on 07/09/2017
Respect! I almost forgot Jonathan Tucker was a thing, but he'd play a great serial killer.
Respect! I almost forgot Jonathan Tucker was a thing, but he'd play a great serial killer.
10:17AM on 07/07/2017
I'm gonna go with... Andrew Scott (Moriarty in Sherlock)
I'm gonna go with... Andrew Scott (Moriarty in Sherlock)
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4:14PM on 07/07/2017
he.is.the.WORST thing to ever happen to Sherlock. GOD he's awful
he.is.the.WORST thing to ever happen to Sherlock. GOD he's awful
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