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Face-Off: Thor vs. Captain America: The First Avenger

Nov. 7, 2013by: Indiana Sev
Halloween week at JoBlo.com had us face-off two devilish movies in last week's article as THE OMEN battled ROSEMARY'S BABY and came up the loser.

With the release of THOR: THE DARK WORLD tomorrow, it was a no-brainer for this week’s piece to feature the God of Thunder so we decided on THOR (2011) vs. CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER (2011). This gave me an excuse to re-watch a Natalie Portman movie and also try to figure out how to get that ‘o’ above the ‘a’ in Stellan Skarsgård’s last name before this article gets posted. All in all, it was a very productive afternoon.

Story
A mighty warrior named Thor (Chris Hemsworth) whose bravery and power is matched only by his arrogance gets banished to earth by his royal pop, Odin (Anthony Hopkins) to learn to be humble and wise and to hopefully meet a babe that looks exactly like Natalie Portman.

Once he is on earth, Thor learns that his brother Loki is cuckoo and has gone power-mad on his home “realm” of Asgard. Soon after, Thor finally gets his shit together, learns a lesson or two, falls in love and regains his powerful hammer to make things right again in the universe.
Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) just wants to do his part and join the army to fight Hitler and his cronies during WWII. The problem is his puny physique keeps getting him rejected until a brilliant scientist (Stanley Tucci) notices his heart and his patriotism are both in the right place and admits him to a secret experiment where he is transformed into a super soldier – Captain America! Now “Cap” is ready to give it his American best as he races against the leader of Hydra, the Red Skull (Hugo Weaving), who is plotting to take over the world! And you thought Hitler was an a-hole...
Box Office
The God of Thunder landed on earth in May of 2011 and scored some big bucks domestically as it tallied $181 million at the box office ranking it #169 all time (which sadly was not enough to beat out that junk WHAT WOMEN WANT). THOR’s total earnings across the globe was $449 million which was more than enough to score us tomorrow’s sequel!
Two months after THOR was released, CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER hit the silver screen in the U.S. of A. and pulled in almost as many bucks as the blonde Norse God as it cashed in a total of $176 million which ranks it at #182 all-time. It didn’t fare as well overall though as it managed to accumulate “only” $370 million worldwide which is $79 million shy of his fellow Avenger Thor.
Cast & Crew
Chris Hemsworth was hardly a household name when THOR was released but that problem was solved by inserting big name movie stars like Anthony Hopkins and Natalie Portman in the film to help him get the kinks out.

Rene Russo (sneeze and you’ll miss her), Stellan Skarsgård (I ended up just copying and pasting his last name from the Internet) and the always great Idris Elba are a few notables also surrounding the blonde warrior God. Considering he hadn’t had much experience directing adventure movies, Kenneth Branagh does a great job behind the camera and proves once again that he can do no wrong. All in all, this is a great cast with names, newcomers and Colm Feore looking real ugly as evil King Laufey.
Chris Evans was a little better known in 2011 than Chris Hemsworth having already starred in three comic book movies: FANTASTIC FOUR, TMNT and FANTASTIC 4: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER. That being said, he also needed to be surrounded by acting heavyweights which is where Tommy Lee Jones, Stanley Tucci and Hugo Weaving step into the picture.

Joe Johnston did a solid job as director and comes in with pretty much the same experience as Ken Branagh does behind the camera. THOR may have the bigger ‘stars” but the supporting actors in this movie had a bigger impact on me. This category was too close to call so I’m chickening out and going with a draw.
Quotes
1) Thor: “So Earth is lost to us...”

Heimdall: “No. There is always hope.”

Thor: “Can you see her?”

Heimdall: “Yes.”

Thor: “How is she?”

Heimdall: “She searches for you.”

2) Clint Barton: “Do you want me to take him down, or would you rather send in more guys for him to beat up?”

3) Thor: “Once I retrieve Mjolnir, I will return to you the items they stole from you. Deal?”

Jane Foster: “No. You think you're gonna just walk in and walk out?”

Thor: “No. I'm gonna fly out.”

4) Thor: [walking into a pet shop] “I need a horse!”

Pet Store Clerk: “We don't have horses. Just dogs, cats, birds.”

Thor: “Then give me one of those large enough to ride.”

5) Jane Foster: “What happened?”

Thor: “He's fine! We drank, we fought - he made his ancestors proud!”

Jane Foster: “Put him on the bed.”

Erik Selvig: [to Thor] “Oh, I still don't think you're the God of thunder. But you ought to be!”

1) Nick Fury: “At ease, soldier! Look, I'm sorry about that little show back there, but we thought it best to break it to you slowly.”

Steve Rogers: “Break what?”

Nick Fury:“You've been asleep, Cap. For almost 70 years.”

[Steve is silent with shock]

Nick Fury: “You gonna be okay?”

Steve Rogers: “Yeah. Yeah, I just... I had a date.”

2) Red Skull: “You are failing. We are close to an offensive that will shake the planet yet we are continually delayed because you cannot outwit a simpleton with a shield.”

3) Abraham Erskine: “Do you want to kill Nazis?”

Steve Rogers: “Is this a test?”

Abraham Erskine: “Yes.”

Steve Rogers: “I don't want to kill anyone. I don't like bullies; I don't care where they're from.”

4) Abraham Erskine: “Whatever happens tomorrow you must promise me one thing. That you will stay who you are. Not a perfect soldier, but a good man.”

5) Senator Brandt: “Geez! Somebody get that kid a sandwich.”
Villains
We’re served up with a super ugly race of icy Frost Giants, Thor’s nutty magical brother Loki and a massive fire-breathing suit of armor named The Destroyer. This is a fun assortment of goons that keeps things interesting but none are really a match for our hero at any point.
The Red Skull is Captain American’s nemesis and his actual red skull-head, cool threads/car/logo and menacing attitude easily beats out Loki who, by comparison, comes off more like an annoying prick with a dumb helmet. The Red Skull makes Hitler look like a pussycat and Hugo Weaving’s portrayal of this legendary villain gives the movie a little bit more oomph and a few more wows.
Captain America: The First Avenger
Although both stories are very original and well executed, I personally preferred the time period that CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER was set in as well as the nice mix of the occult (got a great HELLBOY vibe from this movie) and advanced weaponry that it had. It was a little more “realistic” (no other planets or realms to deal with) and had a more intimidating villain which are two elements that are important factors for me in comic book movies.

I’m not American and yet I loved and felt the patriotism behind ‘CAPTAIN’ and thus felt a more emotional connection to it than I did towards THOR. The ultimate way I usually decide which movie I prefer when it’s such a close race is I ask myself which movie would I easily want to re-watch in a day or two after seeing it and the answer in this case is CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER.

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5:03AM on 11/08/2013
Captain America was more likealbe than Thor. I connected with CA's origin story, while Thor was just a loudmouthed bodybuilder.
Captain America was more likealbe than Thor. I connected with CA's origin story, while Thor was just a loudmouthed bodybuilder.
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12:11AM on 11/08/2013

Batman.

Even if he's not in this contest. Batman wins. Every single time.
Even if he's not in this contest. Batman wins. Every single time.
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11:05PM on 11/07/2013
both were awesome. but i prefer thor, 'cos ii like space fantasy action films and asgard was oh wow so beautiful. if i'm going to heaven i'd like it took exactly like that, with poker-faced heimdall welcoming me to the asgardian realm. the first avenger was also cool. but WWII based films really have no appeal for me.
both were awesome. but i prefer thor, 'cos ii like space fantasy action films and asgard was oh wow so beautiful. if i'm going to heaven i'd like it took exactly like that, with poker-faced heimdall welcoming me to the asgardian realm. the first avenger was also cool. but WWII based films really have no appeal for me.
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11:04PM on 11/07/2013
You preferred the lackluster Red Skull over Hiddleston's iconic Loki? WTF?
You preferred the lackluster Red Skull over Hiddleston's iconic Loki? WTF?
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8:37PM on 11/07/2013
How can you have this face-off and forget to mention Haley Atwell? She was the most interesting female lead in the MCU to me (and that says a lot when you have Oscar winners like Paltrow and Portman). The love story in Thor felt kind of forced, but the one in Captain America was actually really good. I like Thor, but Captain America is a better film. Thor gets a little boring when he's on Earth without powers. My only problem with Captain America is the story was trying to cover too much in one
How can you have this face-off and forget to mention Haley Atwell? She was the most interesting female lead in the MCU to me (and that says a lot when you have Oscar winners like Paltrow and Portman). The love story in Thor felt kind of forced, but the one in Captain America was actually really good. I like Thor, but Captain America is a better film. Thor gets a little boring when he's on Earth without powers. My only problem with Captain America is the story was trying to cover too much in one movie. More than any of the other characters, I feel like Steve Rogers deserved 2 movies leading into Avengers to fully flesh out his story, but it all turned out ok they way Marvel did it as well.
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7:46PM on 11/07/2013

Liked 'Em Both...

but I gotta give the nod to Cap. Just a better movie, all in all.
but I gotta give the nod to Cap. Just a better movie, all in all.
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6:54PM on 11/07/2013
Captain America by far. It was a fun, exciting action/adventure flick with a great old-fashioned sensibility akin to Indiana Jones. Whenever I watch Thor, I'm always underwhelmed by the fish-out-of-water story that's set in a cheap-looking town set with some of the least exciting action setpieces ever in a big-budget comic book production. Lots of awkward Shield stuff shoehorned in, too.
Captain America by far. It was a fun, exciting action/adventure flick with a great old-fashioned sensibility akin to Indiana Jones. Whenever I watch Thor, I'm always underwhelmed by the fish-out-of-water story that's set in a cheap-looking town set with some of the least exciting action setpieces ever in a big-budget comic book production. Lots of awkward Shield stuff shoehorned in, too.
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5:37PM on 11/07/2013
Captain America was definitely the better film, but in a fist fight Thor would make short work of Cap. The guy took a beating from The Hulk and his hair didnt even fall out of place! While Thor's film is a pretty decent movie, it's easily my least favorite of the recent Marvel films. ( not the worst by far though. That award goes to Blade: Trinity) I'm hoping Dark World will make up for the things I didnt like in the First film. We'll also see how much better Cap's next venture will be too. All
Captain America was definitely the better film, but in a fist fight Thor would make short work of Cap. The guy took a beating from The Hulk and his hair didnt even fall out of place! While Thor's film is a pretty decent movie, it's easily my least favorite of the recent Marvel films. ( not the worst by far though. That award goes to Blade: Trinity) I'm hoping Dark World will make up for the things I didnt like in the First film. We'll also see how much better Cap's next venture will be too. All signs point to "waaaaaay better"
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4:35PM on 11/07/2013
Definitely agree! Captain America was the better film, but not by much. I actually thought both movies were 2 of the weaker Marvel movies in Phase 1, but Thor was especially forgettable. Captain America perfectly adapted his patriotic personality and morals, with that fake grenade scene as one of the best scenes in any Marvel movie to date. That said, I have high hopes for the Thor sequel, which I'm seeing tonight!
Definitely agree! Captain America was the better film, but not by much. I actually thought both movies were 2 of the weaker Marvel movies in Phase 1, but Thor was especially forgettable. Captain America perfectly adapted his patriotic personality and morals, with that fake grenade scene as one of the best scenes in any Marvel movie to date. That said, I have high hopes for the Thor sequel, which I'm seeing tonight!
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2:10PM on 11/07/2013
1.) Chris Evans was also in the comic book film "The Losers." Though it wasn't any good, I'd def say more people knew him from that comic-book film than "TMNT."
2.) Is Chris Hemsworth a household name now? Or do people just refer to him as "Thor?"
3.) Joe Johnston had quite a bit of experience making films similar to "Captain America." Obviously, "The Rocketeer," is the closest, but "The Wolfman," "Hidalgo," "Jurassic Park 3," and "Jumanji" all contributed to his ability to direct Cap.
1.) Chris Evans was also in the comic book film "The Losers." Though it wasn't any good, I'd def say more people knew him from that comic-book film than "TMNT."
2.) Is Chris Hemsworth a household name now? Or do people just refer to him as "Thor?"
3.) Joe Johnston had quite a bit of experience making films similar to "Captain America." Obviously, "The Rocketeer," is the closest, but "The Wolfman," "Hidalgo," "Jurassic Park 3," and "Jumanji" all contributed to his ability to direct Cap. Branagh hadn't directed a movie with budgets around $100 million or big action sets with choreography (you could maybe count Frankenstein, but that's just one) or CGI, Johnston clearly had experience with all those aspects, as well a similar tone in "The Rocketeer," and just being hired by a studio for a big-budget film as a hired gun in general. He's was arguably the most experienced for the job of all the Marvel films.
4.) It sounds like you are kind of punishing Thor because you don't like the other realms aspect of his story.
5.). I think it is clear Loki is the better villain bc we understand him, he's played brilliantly, he was brought back really as the main bad guy for "The Avengers," and will be back for more, and the fans like him so much they've talked about trying to make a solo film just for him.
5.) Cap seems like it was trying to steal the look of "Hellboy," a film that's a lot better than both of these movies annndddd.....
6.) I'm really looking forward to the next Cap. I've never cared about the character, but the trailer really sold me, as has everything I've heard about the film and where it takes place for Cap. I even like the directors. It is surprisingly one of my more anticipated movies, more so than the Avengers 2 or Thor 2 for sure (that couuuuld change with an Avengers trailer or seeing how the other films like GOTG lead into it), but the first Captain America is the worst Marvel film they've made. It really felt like a straight up kids movie. I'm not a huge fan of the Thor movie, but it's a lot better than Cap
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1:28PM on 11/07/2013

Captain America by a long shot.

Yep.
Yep.
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12:38PM on 11/07/2013

I'd give it to Thor

I liked Captain America, but though the film was at it's strongest during the first third of the film before Steve Rogers even becomes Cap. After that, it sort of just lingers on. Hugo Weaving was fine as Red Skull, but he has nothing to do in this movie other have a couple menacing lines towards Cap. He was sort of...boring?

Thor on the other hand had a fantastic villain in Tom Hiddleston's Loki, who in the ends is basically nothing more than a spoiled brat with too much power. Hiddleston's
I liked Captain America, but though the film was at it's strongest during the first third of the film before Steve Rogers even becomes Cap. After that, it sort of just lingers on. Hugo Weaving was fine as Red Skull, but he has nothing to do in this movie other have a couple menacing lines towards Cap. He was sort of...boring?

Thor on the other hand had a fantastic villain in Tom Hiddleston's Loki, who in the ends is basically nothing more than a spoiled brat with too much power. Hiddleston's performance is wonderful and commands the screen anytime he appears. There's a reason Loki was brought on as the sole villain for The Avengers.
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11:11AM on 11/07/2013

How could you forget the best line

"How Dare You Touch Thor, Son of Odin"
"How Dare You Touch Thor, Son of Odin"
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10:28AM on 11/07/2013

Captain America

I love both films, but Captain America is the stronger film.

I do love the Shakesperian dialogue in Thor though.
I love both films, but Captain America is the stronger film.

I do love the Shakesperian dialogue in Thor though.
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2:27PM on 11/07/2013
Why do you think it's the stronger film? And, did you read either of their comics as a kid (or anytime)? Does that possibly have any thing to do with your opinion? Because I just don't understand how people can say Cap is the better film, and I never really read any of their comics, and I'm not some huge fan of the movie Thor. I just felt like Cap was nothing but a kid's movie, kind of too much like the rocketeer or dick tracy
Why do you think it's the stronger film? And, did you read either of their comics as a kid (or anytime)? Does that possibly have any thing to do with your opinion? Because I just don't understand how people can say Cap is the better film, and I never really read any of their comics, and I'm not some huge fan of the movie Thor. I just felt like Cap was nothing but a kid's movie, kind of too much like the rocketeer or dick tracy
10:26AM on 11/07/2013

Cap for me.

Although Thor did introduce us to the awesomeness that is Tom Hiddleston, I felt the story for that was a mess. The Earth/S.H.I.E.L.D. scenes and the Asgard/Jotunheim scenes didn't blend well. I mean one scene ends with Thor and Selvig having a beer drinking contest in a New Mexico bar to Loki visiting Jotunheim. The earth scenes really took away from the scenes in other realms, which is where Thor is based and which is where the majority of the action seems to take place in Thor 2.

I like
Although Thor did introduce us to the awesomeness that is Tom Hiddleston, I felt the story for that was a mess. The Earth/S.H.I.E.L.D. scenes and the Asgard/Jotunheim scenes didn't blend well. I mean one scene ends with Thor and Selvig having a beer drinking contest in a New Mexico bar to Loki visiting Jotunheim. The earth scenes really took away from the scenes in other realms, which is where Thor is based and which is where the majority of the action seems to take place in Thor 2.

I like the old school approach to Captain America. Plus Chris Evans did a great job pulling a 180 on his usual sarcastic persona seen in Fantastic Four, The Losers, et. al.
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10:16AM on 11/07/2013
Of course! Cap America is my favourite MARVEL movie aside from Avengers. Not a fan of Iron Man solo movies (I think number 3 is the best) and Thor was really a bore.
Of course! Cap America is my favourite MARVEL movie aside from Avengers. Not a fan of Iron Man solo movies (I think number 3 is the best) and Thor was really a bore.
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9:36AM on 11/07/2013

HUGE MARVEL NEWS

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Daredvil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones coming to the small screen with 4 Netflix shows and a miniseries called "The Defenders"
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Daredvil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones coming to the small screen with 4 Netflix shows and a miniseries called "The Defenders"
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11:04AM on 11/07/2013
""Daredevil," followed by "Jessica Jones," "Iron Fist" and "Luke Cage""

Throw in Misty Knight, Colleen Wing and Cloak and Dagger and you've got an urban street-level version of the Avengers that combines elements of the Marvel Knights, Heroes for Hire and Defenders franchises.


""Daredevil," followed by "Jessica Jones," "Iron Fist" and "Luke Cage""

Throw in Misty Knight, Colleen Wing and Cloak and Dagger and you've got an urban street-level version of the Avengers that combines elements of the Marvel Knights, Heroes for Hire and Defenders franchises.


9:20AM on 11/07/2013

Thor for me

EDIT: Whoa my computer just spazzed on me and now ive left 5 comments in a row! Sorry bout that, they really need to add a 'delete post' option.
EDIT: Whoa my computer just spazzed on me and now ive left 5 comments in a row! Sorry bout that, they really need to add a 'delete post' option.
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10:18AM on 11/07/2013
I know but this was a case of in mid commenting my browser crashed and then when it came back i had 5 comments. Cest la vie.
I know but this was a case of in mid commenting my browser crashed and then when it came back i had 5 comments. Cest la vie.
9:28AM on 11/07/2013
it happends when you try refreshing the page right after you post a comment
it happends when you try refreshing the page right after you post a comment
9:20AM on 11/07/2013

Thor for me

Enjoyed it a lot more, plus it always annoys me with
Enjoyed it a lot more, plus it always annoys me with
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8:47AM on 11/07/2013
Captain America feels more like the old school comic book movies to me. Like a Raimi Spiderman. I was pretty disappointed in how flat it felt, but I love me some Thor. Very surprised at how much I enjoyed it
Captain America feels more like the old school comic book movies to me. Like a Raimi Spiderman. I was pretty disappointed in how flat it felt, but I love me some Thor. Very surprised at how much I enjoyed it
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8:01AM on 11/07/2013
I agree. Thor is my least favorite Marvel movie so far. It was a rip off of Superman 2. Which I also hated.
I agree. Thor is my least favorite Marvel movie so far. It was a rip off of Superman 2. Which I also hated.
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7:28AM on 11/07/2013

THOR.

I gave it a 7/10, and CAPTAIN a 6/10.
I gave it a 7/10, and CAPTAIN a 6/10.
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6:15AM on 11/07/2013
Although the same MU, they are hard to compare imho. Like em both as fun CBM's.
Although the same MU, they are hard to compare imho. Like em both as fun CBM's.
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5:47AM on 11/07/2013

Thor was boring and had horrible villains

The only good part of Thro was the first half hour. Once he landed on earth it was the most boring super hero movie I have ever seen. I would rather watch Reb Brown's Captain America and Fantastic Four 1 or 2 than sit through Thor again. He is a great hero, but not when matched against generic villains like a big robot.

Captain America hands down was better than Thor. It had better humor, a more interesting plot and Red Skull is a much better villain than Loki.
The only good part of Thro was the first half hour. Once he landed on earth it was the most boring super hero movie I have ever seen. I would rather watch Reb Brown's Captain America and Fantastic Four 1 or 2 than sit through Thor again. He is a great hero, but not when matched against generic villains like a big robot.

Captain America hands down was better than Thor. It had better humor, a more interesting plot and Red Skull is a much better villain than Loki.
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5:00AM on 11/07/2013

Thor

Thor hands down!
Thor hands down!
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4:46AM on 11/07/2013
Captain America is my favourite of the Phase 1 films (along with The Avengers of course). I think I'm in the very small minority, but I love the character and what he stands for. Such a wonderful film with a perfect performance from Evans.
Captain America is my favourite of the Phase 1 films (along with The Avengers of course). I think I'm in the very small minority, but I love the character and what he stands for. Such a wonderful film with a perfect performance from Evans.
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4:40AM on 11/07/2013

Thor is one of the best of all the Phase one movies

Probably third after Avengers and Iron Man.
Probably third after Avengers and Iron Man.
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4:35AM on 11/07/2013
Tough call but I'd go with Thor. It has a story that people can relate to - a son who learns his mistake and wants to prove his worth to his father. That scene where Thor scolds at Odin and you can clearly see that Odin was emotionally hurt. He loves his son but he yet exiled Thor to Earth to learn his mistake. That is such an emotional scene. My tears were rolling.
Tough call but I'd go with Thor. It has a story that people can relate to - a son who learns his mistake and wants to prove his worth to his father. That scene where Thor scolds at Odin and you can clearly see that Odin was emotionally hurt. He loves his son but he yet exiled Thor to Earth to learn his mistake. That is such an emotional scene. My tears were rolling.
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3:50AM on 11/07/2013
I'd actually give it to Thor. Both are solid films but I was a lot more entertained by Thor. I think Captain America: The First Avenger does embrace its period-set, retro action movie charm, but alas, that "Raiders-level" point of fun and energy proved somewhat elusive. Hugo Weaving was a really, really good Red Skull, but I feel the character was underused and really couldn't provide sufficient menace. With Thor, there was a juxtaposition between this outlandish fantasy world and our more
I'd actually give it to Thor. Both are solid films but I was a lot more entertained by Thor. I think Captain America: The First Avenger does embrace its period-set, retro action movie charm, but alas, that "Raiders-level" point of fun and energy proved somewhat elusive. Hugo Weaving was a really, really good Red Skull, but I feel the character was underused and really couldn't provide sufficient menace. With Thor, there was a juxtaposition between this outlandish fantasy world and our more mundane one and a very effective blend of fish out of water comedy with Shakespearean grandeur.
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