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Goyer on Ghost Rider 2

Nov. 5, 2009by: Paul Tassi

Prepare your eyes for rolling. David Goyer is talking about the GHOST RIDER sequel/reboot he's writing, which exists solely because the first one miraculously made $228M worldwide. Yes, it's PG-13, yes Nic Cage is coming back, but don't worry, it’s going to be "darker."From MTV:

"It's not exactly a reboot," said Goyer, who's currently hard at work on his "FlashForward" television series. "I hate to say it's more realistic, because he's got a flaming skull for a head, but it's a bit more stripped down and darker. It's definitely changing tone. What 'Casino Royale' was to the Bond movies, hopefully this will be to 'Ghost Rider.' " [ed. note: Oh God…]

"This story picks up eight years after the first film," said Goyer. "You don't have to have seen the first film. It doesn't contradict anything that happened in the first film, but we're pretending that our audience hasn't seen the first film. It's as if you took that same character where things ended in the first film and then picked it up eight years later—he's just in a much darker, existential place."

GHOST RIDER was more often than not a kickass comic, but good lord was the movie ridiculous. I highly doubt a Cage-filled PG-13 reboot/sequel is going to give the character the film it deserves, but hey, I guess anything’s possible.

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But no, I don’t really think it’s possible.

Extra Tidbit: What's worse casting, Cage as Ghost Rider or Affleck as Daredevil?
Source: MTV

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3:48PM on 11/06/2009
My choices are still Eddie Cahill as Daredevil and Matt Long, who was young Johnny Blaze, as Ghost Rider.
My choices are still Eddie Cahill as Daredevil and Matt Long, who was young Johnny Blaze, as Ghost Rider.
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12:51PM on 11/06/2009

ooh Jeez.

Neither Affleck or Cage are bad casts, I think the movie themselves were bad, the story, the content, the script, etc..would they be my choice to play these comic book heroes? maybe not.
Neither Affleck or Cage are bad casts, I think the movie themselves were bad, the story, the content, the script, etc..would they be my choice to play these comic book heroes? maybe not.
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12:03PM on 11/06/2009
The R rated Daredevil was a fantastic movie. I think Ben Affleck did a pretty good job as Daredevil too. I freely admit that the theatrical release of Daredevil was average, but he R rated directors cut was straight up amazing.
The R rated Daredevil was a fantastic movie. I think Ben Affleck did a pretty good job as Daredevil too. I freely admit that the theatrical release of Daredevil was average, but he R rated directors cut was straight up amazing.
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7:14AM on 11/06/2009
Ghost Rider is actually a pretty badass character. Could rival Spawn even. Of course, on screen he's a shithead but so is Mark Steven Johnson. I say get Cage and Mendes and whoever was involved with the first as far away from the sequel as possible. Then maybe, just MAYBE, it'll be a halfway decent flick. Plus...Goyer's only good work comes with the Nolans by his side. Other than that most of what he's done is pretty much borderline 'ok-ish'.
Ghost Rider is actually a pretty badass character. Could rival Spawn even. Of course, on screen he's a shithead but so is Mark Steven Johnson. I say get Cage and Mendes and whoever was involved with the first as far away from the sequel as possible. Then maybe, just MAYBE, it'll be a halfway decent flick. Plus...Goyer's only good work comes with the Nolans by his side. Other than that most of what he's done is pretty much borderline 'ok-ish'.
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12:40AM on 11/06/2009

Whatever

They need to make it R.That way they can do it justice.And in this one Nic should look like this ..
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They need to make it R.That way they can do it justice.And in this one Nic should look like this ..
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9:50PM on 11/05/2009

Ben = Matt

I really dug Ben as Daredevil/Matt Murdock. I think Daredevil was a radically underrated film. I mean Favs is in it, he's a Marvel legend now too.
I really dug Ben as Daredevil/Matt Murdock. I think Daredevil was a radically underrated film. I mean Favs is in it, he's a Marvel legend now too.
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9:45PM on 11/05/2009
How about a Manthing rebot/re do.
How about a Manthing rebot/re do.
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9:25PM on 11/05/2009
Ya know, I could actually live with it being a PG-13 movie, as long as Cage was nowhere near this project. And I say this as a Ghost Rider comic book fan since the late 1970's.
Ya know, I could actually live with it being a PG-13 movie, as long as Cage was nowhere near this project. And I say this as a Ghost Rider comic book fan since the late 1970's.
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8:19PM on 11/05/2009
worse casting = every casting made on dd including writer + director.
worse casting = every casting made on dd including writer + director.
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6:00PM on 11/05/2009
Gr8 news all around! Whether a darker storyline or not, I like Cage in the role of Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider---> and I thought Affleck made a very good Matt Murdock/DareDevil.
Gr8 news all around! Whether a darker storyline or not, I like Cage in the role of Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider---> and I thought Affleck made a very good Matt Murdock/DareDevil.
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5:58PM on 11/05/2009

Nice

I have to say, the first film was outrageously horrible, and the way he spoke when he was Ghost Rider was stupid. BUT, I'm glad they are trying to make up for the first film with a darker tone. I think the whole setting, characters and plotlines of Ghost Rider are great and I hope they hit it big with this new film. Honestly, this movie (kinda) falls into the "it could be a great film if done right" category. If done right and DARK, it could show us a "glimpse" at what a (well-made) Spawn film
I have to say, the first film was outrageously horrible, and the way he spoke when he was Ghost Rider was stupid. BUT, I'm glad they are trying to make up for the first film with a darker tone. I think the whole setting, characters and plotlines of Ghost Rider are great and I hope they hit it big with this new film. Honestly, this movie (kinda) falls into the "it could be a great film if done right" category. If done right and DARK, it could show us a "glimpse" at what a (well-made) Spawn film could look like.
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5:42PM on 11/05/2009
The rating I give this speaks for itself. So I'm just going to change the subject.

I wish there was a reboot/sequel movie to the first Power Rangers movie - armorlike costumes and all. They should team up with the Autobots to hunt and kill Michael Bay, who is clearly a Decepticon. There should be a love triangle between Bumblebee, Kimberly (pink ranger), and Tommy (white ranger) that boils down to an all out battle. Tommy rides his Falcon Zord to beat the shit out of Bumblebee. But then the
The rating I give this speaks for itself. So I'm just going to change the subject.

I wish there was a reboot/sequel movie to the first Power Rangers movie - armorlike costumes and all. They should team up with the Autobots to hunt and kill Michael Bay, who is clearly a Decepticon. There should be a love triangle between Bumblebee, Kimberly (pink ranger), and Tommy (white ranger) that boils down to an all out battle. Tommy rides his Falcon Zord to beat the shit out of Bumblebee. But then the Autobots gang up on him, only to have all the Rangers get in their Zords. They'll combine into the Megazord, and the movie ends with Roland Emmerich giggling hysterically - his hair in pigtails.
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5:17PM on 11/05/2009

Toss up!

Cage or Affleck? Hmmmmm. I'll do you one better, how about Alba as Invisible Woman? Awwwww sh** made you look!
Cage or Affleck? Hmmmmm. I'll do you one better, how about Alba as Invisible Woman? Awwwww sh** made you look!
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5:06PM on 11/05/2009
I'm glad they're pretending no one saw the first film. LOL.
I'm glad they're pretending no one saw the first film. LOL.
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3:14PM on 11/05/2009
So its still going to be incredibly shitty ?
So its still going to be incredibly shitty ?
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3:08PM on 11/05/2009
loved daredevil. but i suffer from not comparing superhero movies to other superhero movies syndrome so wut the hell do i know.
loved daredevil. but i suffer from not comparing superhero movies to other superhero movies syndrome so wut the hell do i know.
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2:42PM on 11/05/2009
Maybe Cage should do the next Ghost Rider movie bald because those toupees he's been wearing make him look like a tool!!
Maybe Cage should do the next Ghost Rider movie bald because those toupees he's been wearing make him look like a tool!!
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4:24PM on 11/05/2009
HA!
HA!
2:34PM on 11/05/2009

daredevil

the worst cast was Affleck. At least we didn't have to watch Cage try to act blind.
the worst cast was Affleck. At least we didn't have to watch Cage try to act blind.
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1:26PM on 11/05/2009

no

"but we're pretending that our audience hasn't seen the first film"...

yeah...and they are wishing they hadn't
"but we're pretending that our audience hasn't seen the first film"...

yeah...and they are wishing they hadn't
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1:20PM on 11/05/2009

I think this sounds fine...

I don't understand all the negativity surrounding this news. I think this may have some potential. I hated Ghost Rider, but I'm thinking we should still give them a chance with this.

"...what Casino Royale did to Bond movies, hopefully this will be to Ghost Rider"

What's so "Oh God" about that, again?

I personally don't mind hearing about this. I wish a sequel wasn't made, but I'm willing to give them a second chance with it.
I don't understand all the negativity surrounding this news. I think this may have some potential. I hated Ghost Rider, but I'm thinking we should still give them a chance with this.

"...what Casino Royale did to Bond movies, hopefully this will be to Ghost Rider"

What's so "Oh God" about that, again?

I personally don't mind hearing about this. I wish a sequel wasn't made, but I'm willing to give them a second chance with it.
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1:07PM on 11/05/2009
Affleck was definitely the better choice of the two. But come on...PG-13 (possible)..Cage definitely not. Well at least the CGI rider didn't chew up the scenery like NC did. And I will say it again and again....wtf was up with the martini glass full of jellybeans!?!
Affleck was definitely the better choice of the two. But come on...PG-13 (possible)..Cage definitely not. Well at least the CGI rider didn't chew up the scenery like NC did. And I will say it again and again....wtf was up with the martini glass full of jellybeans!?!
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1:06PM on 11/05/2009
I really wish people would stop comparing their next work to Casino Royale or Batman Begins or the newest Star Trek as a way of saying that they are going to restore dignity to the franchise the same way those films did for their franchises. You are not going to restore any dignity to something with Nic Cage as the lead role.
I really wish people would stop comparing their next work to Casino Royale or Batman Begins or the newest Star Trek as a way of saying that they are going to restore dignity to the franchise the same way those films did for their franchises. You are not going to restore any dignity to something with Nic Cage as the lead role.
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12:46PM on 11/05/2009
Benny was way better as DD than Nicky did as J Blaze! Why not recast younger and have the rider be the Dan Ketch incarnation. Complete with sporty style battering ram bike! Sold and done.
Benny was way better as DD than Nicky did as J Blaze! Why not recast younger and have the rider be the Dan Ketch incarnation. Complete with sporty style battering ram bike! Sold and done.
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12:46PM on 11/05/2009

Here goes

come on totally rip me but i actually kinda liked daredevil got more slating than it deserved and way better than ghost rider
come on totally rip me but i actually kinda liked daredevil got more slating than it deserved and way better than ghost rider
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