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Judd Apatow thinks there should be a Best Comedy Oscar

11.22.2011

It's a fact that like it or not, is undeniably true. Comedies high-brow or not, almost never win Oscars, and are rarely even nominated for the honor. Whether that's fair or not is a debate to be had, but Judd Apatow had an idea I'd be curious to your thoughts about.

"There should be a comedy category at the Oscars because why not? Comedy's not included ever. It's been like five times in a zillion years that [a comedy] has won Best Picture. It doesn't seem like it's screwing up 'Schindler's List' for 'The Hangover' to have its own category."

I mean, the fact is, he's right. How can you possibly compare most comedies to their deadly serious counterparts? There really isn't a place for them at the Oscars outside of rarities like FORREST GUMP or uh...I'm drawing a blank, and that's the problem.

So what would you think of this idea? The definitive "Best Picture" category might be sullied by pulling a Golden Globes and splitting it like this, but otherwise a number of great films would go without recognition.

But conversely, within comedy there's a debate as well. Should movies that are aimed at kids but still really funny like UP or TANGLED be competing with something as raunchy as THE HANGOVER or BRIDESMAIDS? Isn't that apples and oranges within the comedy genre? I understand what he's saying, but I'm not sure it would explicitly solve the problem. Do you?

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7:33PM on 11/23/2011
meh the oscars are so overrated, plus the golden globes already give the awards for comedy/musical, people in hollywood act like its so important to get an oscar or an nomination to finally be known.

Btw...Bridesmaids sucked
meh the oscars are so overrated, plus the golden globes already give the awards for comedy/musical, people in hollywood act like its so important to get an oscar or an nomination to finally be known.

Btw...Bridesmaids sucked
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4:06PM on 11/23/2011
It doesn't make any difference...Aptow still won't be nominated.
And with good reason.
It doesn't make any difference...Aptow still won't be nominated.
And with good reason.
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3:09PM on 11/23/2011
This article's a mess and needs to be proofed.
This article's a mess and needs to be proofed.
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1:47PM on 11/23/2011
The best comedy this year is The Guard.
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The best comedy this year is The Guard.
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6:53AM on 11/23/2011
I stopped watching the oscars years ago. During that time watch your personal favorite movie of the year, [link] I promise you'll be move satisfied.
I stopped watching the oscars years ago. During that time watch your personal favorite movie of the year, [link] I promise you'll be move satisfied.
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2:19AM on 11/23/2011
Last time a comedy won was Shakespeare in Love triumphing over Saving Private Ryan.
I think that win zapped all good will towards comedies.
Besides, the best dramas have a lot of laughs. The King's Speech is funnier than most films labelled comedies.
Last time a comedy won was Shakespeare in Love triumphing over Saving Private Ryan.
I think that win zapped all good will towards comedies.
Besides, the best dramas have a lot of laughs. The King's Speech is funnier than most films labelled comedies.
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2:10AM on 11/23/2011
I agree with... most of the strikeback section. First of all, I don't know what makes comedies so special that they should have a seperate category and horror, action and sci-fi not. Second of all, great movies are usually (and should be) difficult to categorize, because they shouldn't be schematic but rather pushing the envelope. So yeah, I think it's a silly idea.
As for the ET... This was a pretty decent year for comedy, at least quantity wise, especially if you consider the amount of R
I agree with... most of the strikeback section. First of all, I don't know what makes comedies so special that they should have a seperate category and horror, action and sci-fi not. Second of all, great movies are usually (and should be) difficult to categorize, because they shouldn't be schematic but rather pushing the envelope. So yeah, I think it's a silly idea.
As for the ET... This was a pretty decent year for comedy, at least quantity wise, especially if you consider the amount of R rated comedies. My top 5, though:
Paul
Take Me Home Tonight
Tucker and Dale vs Evil
Horrible Bosses
Bridesmaids
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12:40AM on 11/23/2011
Id be more upset about not winning a Golden Schmoe
Id be more upset about not winning a Golden Schmoe
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10:10PM on 11/22/2011
I agree with this. The Academy needs to add 'best of' categories for each genre. But since they still haven't made one for best voice-acting or stunt work, that will never happen.

Also, since when was "Forrest Gump" considered a comedy? It might have some lighter moments, but it's a drama through and through.

Extra Tidbit:
1) Crazy, Stupid, Love
2) 50/50
3) Cedar Rapids
4) Horrible Bosses
5) No Strings Attached

(I loathed "Bridesmaids")
I agree with this. The Academy needs to add 'best of' categories for each genre. But since they still haven't made one for best voice-acting or stunt work, that will never happen.

Also, since when was "Forrest Gump" considered a comedy? It might have some lighter moments, but it's a drama through and through.

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2) 50/50
3) Cedar Rapids
4) Horrible Bosses
5) No Strings Attached

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12:59AM on 11/23/2011
Forrest Gump is as much of a comedy as Crazy, Stupid, Love or 50/50, in my opinion.
Forrest Gump is as much of a comedy as Crazy, Stupid, Love or 50/50, in my opinion.
2:00AM on 11/23/2011
Best stunt ategory was always the no brainer. This is the one that should have been here from basically the 1960's
Best stunt ategory was always the no brainer. This is the one that should have been here from basically the 1960's
7:37PM on 11/23/2011
as if the freaking show isn't long enough already, why not have actor categories & directors & writers for each genres? end sarcasm
as if the freaking show isn't long enough already, why not have actor categories & directors & writers for each genres? end sarcasm
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9:26PM on 11/22/2011

It won't work!

The Golden Globes do this but its system isn't perfect. I just watched THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT, which was the latest to win "Best Musical or Comedy". Sure, there were some laughs, nobody died at the end but still, it was a drama.
What I'm trying to say is that even if they make such a category at the Oscars they would prefer "light-dramas" like KIDS, and not Hangover nor Bridesmaids or whatever.
The Golden Globes do this but its system isn't perfect. I just watched THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT, which was the latest to win "Best Musical or Comedy". Sure, there were some laughs, nobody died at the end but still, it was a drama.
What I'm trying to say is that even if they make such a category at the Oscars they would prefer "light-dramas" like KIDS, and not Hangover nor Bridesmaids or whatever.
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8:06PM on 11/22/2011
I agree that the Oscars should have a seperate award for comedy, as well as comedy actor and actress. If they can make an animated movie category, then why not comedy?
I agree that the Oscars should have a seperate award for comedy, as well as comedy actor and actress. If they can make an animated movie category, then why not comedy?
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7:49PM on 11/22/2011
If you're making comedies with the hope of winning Oscars, you have your priorities messed up. Luckily, a good comedy or action film will find an audience and make money because they have more mass appeal. Several great drama films fall under the radar without the backing of award nominations (look at Warrior and Drive). Its not a perfect system, but in a way it works. It would be nice to have your cake and eat it too, but it doesn't always work.
If you're making comedies with the hope of winning Oscars, you have your priorities messed up. Luckily, a good comedy or action film will find an audience and make money because they have more mass appeal. Several great drama films fall under the radar without the backing of award nominations (look at Warrior and Drive). Its not a perfect system, but in a way it works. It would be nice to have your cake and eat it too, but it doesn't always work.
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4:43PM on 11/22/2011
A TERRIBLE idea. Years like this one, you can win by default. It was a horrible year for comedy. Crazy, Stupid, Love being one of the few even remotely good ones. Bridesmaids was awful and Hangover 2 disappointed.
A TERRIBLE idea. Years like this one, you can win by default. It was a horrible year for comedy. Crazy, Stupid, Love being one of the few even remotely good ones. Bridesmaids was awful and Hangover 2 disappointed.
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4:31PM on 11/22/2011
If comedy would get own category, they would have to create own categories for, well, pretty much for every genre. It's been zillion years since horror movie has even been nominated (and there's been plenty of choices for that).

And yes, if you make good enough comedies, it will get nominations, I'm sure.
If comedy would get own category, they would have to create own categories for, well, pretty much for every genre. It's been zillion years since horror movie has even been nominated (and there's been plenty of choices for that).

And yes, if you make good enough comedies, it will get nominations, I'm sure.
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4:29PM on 11/22/2011
yeah, but where do you draw the line? Why not a sci-fi Oscar? Or comic-book oscar?
yeah, but where do you draw the line? Why not a sci-fi Oscar? Or comic-book oscar?
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4:14PM on 11/22/2011
Annie Hall was a comedy. If its done well, people will notice
Annie Hall was a comedy. If its done well, people will notice
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4:02PM on 11/22/2011
If anything, I think they should start combining or taking away categories.
If anything, I think they should start combining or taking away categories.
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3:44PM on 11/22/2011
This is like a bad student asking his/her teacher to dumb down the advanced class so that they can get an A too.
Make better comedies, like "Knocked Up", which was nominated for Original Screenplay. About all it did deserve at the Oscar party.
If you ask me - why are comedies and musicals together at the Golden Globes? Focus there.
This is like a bad student asking his/her teacher to dumb down the advanced class so that they can get an A too.
Make better comedies, like "Knocked Up", which was nominated for Original Screenplay. About all it did deserve at the Oscar party.
If you ask me - why are comedies and musicals together at the Golden Globes? Focus there.
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3:43PM on 11/22/2011
Here is why comedies will never get oscars: humor is very subjective. One person's laugh riot is another person's dull 2 hours, is another person's offensive material. Comedy is surprisingly personal so it'd be hard to get consensus- look at all the disagreements here already on what's overrated or not. Is bridesmaids really "overrated" just because it was successful? Not really. nobody is saying it's the greatest thing ever, it just hit a nerve for the year. Anyway, yeah, this is too complex
Here is why comedies will never get oscars: humor is very subjective. One person's laugh riot is another person's dull 2 hours, is another person's offensive material. Comedy is surprisingly personal so it'd be hard to get consensus- look at all the disagreements here already on what's overrated or not. Is bridesmaids really "overrated" just because it was successful? Not really. nobody is saying it's the greatest thing ever, it just hit a nerve for the year. Anyway, yeah, this is too complex an issue for the academy to dare touch.
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3:22PM on 11/22/2011
I think it seems they don't take comedies seriously because everyone tends to like it. As if something no one has heard of or a has a big hit with the critics drama wise will only get the win. I agree with Apatow on this, definitely.
I think it seems they don't take comedies seriously because everyone tends to like it. As if something no one has heard of or a has a big hit with the critics drama wise will only get the win. I agree with Apatow on this, definitely.
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6:07PM on 11/22/2011
yeah, no one liked Forrest Gump!
yeah, no one liked Forrest Gump!
3:20PM on 11/22/2011
Maybe they should make better comedies. There are comedies that I really like, but the're hardly ever in my top 5 or top 10 of the year. Usually, they're somewhere between 10 and 20.

I'm pretty sure that, if someone would make a comedy that's in everyone's top five, it would also appear at the oscars.
Maybe they should make better comedies. There are comedies that I really like, but the're hardly ever in my top 5 or top 10 of the year. Usually, they're somewhere between 10 and 20.

I'm pretty sure that, if someone would make a comedy that's in everyone's top five, it would also appear at the oscars.
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3:03PM on 11/22/2011
I think it would be a good idea. But there's a lot of things wrong with the Oscars, so who cares? There should be a Best Stuntman or Stunt Coordinator" Oscar.

As to the comedies winning, Kevin Kline winning best actor for A Fish Called Wanda is the closest I can think of off the of my head.

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I think it would be a good idea. But there's a lot of things wrong with the Oscars, so who cares? There should be a Best Stuntman or Stunt Coordinator" Oscar.

As to the comedies winning, Kevin Kline winning best actor for A Fish Called Wanda is the closest I can think of off the of my head.

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3:01PM on 11/22/2011
I guess BM's financial success wasn't enough, he wants a little golden statue to go along with it.

Personally i wouldn't give that drek a golden shower.

He should just shut up, count his millions, plot his next dreadfully boring comedy with a message and be happy.

You don't see Sandler complaining about his films not getting recognized during awards season :)

I guess BM's financial success wasn't enough, he wants a little golden statue to go along with it.

Personally i wouldn't give that drek a golden shower.

He should just shut up, count his millions, plot his next dreadfully boring comedy with a message and be happy.

You don't see Sandler complaining about his films not getting recognized during awards season :)

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2:50PM on 11/22/2011
I think this would be an interesting idea. There are certainly comedies out there that deserve to win awards, and comedy in general is just as tough to pull off as drama (sometimes tougher), so why shouldn't it deserve as much recognition as these other films? Comedies at the very least deserve recognition, but it's a downplayed genre that most people blow off as just schlock entertainment. Comedies deserve better.
I think this would be an interesting idea. There are certainly comedies out there that deserve to win awards, and comedy in general is just as tough to pull off as drama (sometimes tougher), so why shouldn't it deserve as much recognition as these other films? Comedies at the very least deserve recognition, but it's a downplayed genre that most people blow off as just schlock entertainment. Comedies deserve better.
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2:38PM on 11/22/2011

NFW

He's welcome to submit his pictures just like everyone else does. Calling for a new category or awards show is an exercise in the nepotism for which directors and actors claim doesn't exist in Hollywood. If he needs to feel that special, his assistant needs to hand him a little trophy on the way out of his trailer at the end of his next film.
He's welcome to submit his pictures just like everyone else does. Calling for a new category or awards show is an exercise in the nepotism for which directors and actors claim doesn't exist in Hollywood. If he needs to feel that special, his assistant needs to hand him a little trophy on the way out of his trailer at the end of his next film.
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2:18PM on 11/22/2011
I wouldn't mind having a best comedy picture category. It'd be nice to see people like Apatow and others involved in making us laugh our ass' off get recognition.

Or perhaps, just do an Awards show only devoted to comedies?
I wouldn't mind having a best comedy picture category. It'd be nice to see people like Apatow and others involved in making us laugh our ass' off get recognition.

Or perhaps, just do an Awards show only devoted to comedies?
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2:24PM on 11/22/2011
I vote Twilight best comedy saga ever! Agree?
I vote Twilight best comedy saga ever! Agree?
1:58PM on 11/22/2011

Top 5?

1. Midnight in Paris
2. Inbetweeners: the Movie
3. 50/50
4. Harold and Kumar
5. Cedar Rapids

(though i have still yet to see "Muppets" "Take Me Home" "30 Min or Less" and "Burke and Hare")
1. Midnight in Paris
2. Inbetweeners: the Movie
3. 50/50
4. Harold and Kumar
5. Cedar Rapids

(though i have still yet to see "Muppets" "Take Me Home" "30 Min or Less" and "Burke and Hare")
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1:47PM on 11/22/2011
Aww, Judd's got a case of the Romneys.
Aww, Judd's got a case of the Romneys.
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1:33PM on 11/22/2011
I've only seen two or three of this year's comedies, none of which I'd nominate for the Oscars (no, not even Bridesmaids). See, there's crowd-pleasing comedies like what Apatow makes (and I generally find his stuff very enjoyable), and then there's something like "Little Miss Sunshine," which I personally would have chosen over "The Departed" as Best Picture (but left Scorsese with his Directing award).

I mean I think the divide has just gotten worse here (in 1994 Forest Gump beat out Pulp
I've only seen two or three of this year's comedies, none of which I'd nominate for the Oscars (no, not even Bridesmaids). See, there's crowd-pleasing comedies like what Apatow makes (and I generally find his stuff very enjoyable), and then there's something like "Little Miss Sunshine," which I personally would have chosen over "The Departed" as Best Picture (but left Scorsese with his Directing award).

I mean I think the divide has just gotten worse here (in 1994 Forest Gump beat out Pulp Fiction, and both had comedic elements not normally found in Oscar-bait).

When you get a bunch of talented people together, in their element, like with "The Hangover" or "Horrible Bosses," it takes really horrific writing and/or editing to make it bad. But to make it not only good, but something you'd give an award at the Oscars for, that takes a special kind of comedy, and most comedies are happy just being enjoyable.
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1:16PM on 11/22/2011
No.

It's the Oscar for Best Picture, let's not dilute it. Just make better comedies/dramedies than Funny People and you'll get your due.
No.

It's the Oscar for Best Picture, let's not dilute it. Just make better comedies/dramedies than Funny People and you'll get your due.
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1:22PM on 11/22/2011
I was waiting for the first funny people dig
I was waiting for the first funny people dig
1:51PM on 11/22/2011
I liked Funny People but yes, he'll have to do better than that for a Best Picture nod.

When the only Adam Sandler film that could be nominated is Punch-Drunk Love, Judd should know better.
I liked Funny People but yes, he'll have to do better than that for a Best Picture nod.

When the only Adam Sandler film that could be nominated is Punch-Drunk Love, Judd should know better.
1:15PM on 11/22/2011

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Definitely Horrible Bosses. Not that overrated trash Bridesmaids.
Definitely Horrible Bosses. Not that overrated trash Bridesmaids.
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1:36PM on 11/22/2011
Sorry bats but quite the opposite. Bridesmaids was laugh out loud funny and Bosses had maybe a few chuckles. Trying way too hard.
Sorry bats but quite the opposite. Bridesmaids was laugh out loud funny and Bosses had maybe a few chuckles. Trying way too hard.
1:52PM on 11/22/2011
I'm with you on this, Bridesmaid (while not trash) was totally over-rated and Horrible Bosses was one of the best (its been a slow year)
I'm with you on this, Bridesmaid (while not trash) was totally over-rated and Horrible Bosses was one of the best (its been a slow year)
1:14PM on 11/22/2011
Academy awards still mean something?
Academy awards still mean something?
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12:41PM on 11/22/2011

nope

films genres nowadays arent defined by visible lines anymore. Who decides that films like Forrest Gump and Kids are All Right, are comedies and not just light dramas. What makes Silence of the Lambs a horror and not a drama, is Shawn of the Dead Horror or comedy. Now that animated films are starting to get the big ticket, i'm alittle on the fence over whether the animation category is still relevant.

All movies should be eligible for all categories (with exception of short film, animation,
films genres nowadays arent defined by visible lines anymore. Who decides that films like Forrest Gump and Kids are All Right, are comedies and not just light dramas. What makes Silence of the Lambs a horror and not a drama, is Shawn of the Dead Horror or comedy. Now that animated films are starting to get the big ticket, i'm alittle on the fence over whether the animation category is still relevant.

All movies should be eligible for all categories (with exception of short film, animation, and documentary)
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12:39PM on 11/22/2011
Annie Hall, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love, those are comedies that won. Oscars is not about drama, it's about a certain "quality". Because you laugh during a comedy, it doesn't mean it's a good movie. Or else most drama wouldn't be any good, cause I don't cry watching most of them.
Annie Hall, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love, those are comedies that won. Oscars is not about drama, it's about a certain "quality". Because you laugh during a comedy, it doesn't mean it's a good movie. Or else most drama wouldn't be any good, cause I don't cry watching most of them.
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1:14PM on 11/22/2011
American Beauty and Shakespeare In Love are not comedies, even though you could argue there's comedic elements, especially not American Beauty.
American Beauty and Shakespeare In Love are not comedies, even though you could argue there's comedic elements, especially not American Beauty.
12:32PM on 11/22/2011
He wants to make the oscars even longer? Just be happy the golden globes does it and move on.
He wants to make the oscars even longer? Just be happy the golden globes does it and move on.
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12:24PM on 11/22/2011
Comedy's recognized a lot more than, say, horror. When was the last time one of those was nominated?
Comedy's recognized a lot more than, say, horror. When was the last time one of those was nominated?
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7:43PM on 11/23/2011
The Sixth Sense was nominated.
The Sixth Sense was nominated.
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12:23PM on 11/22/2011
While I agree - this does present a slippery slope where people would be clamoring for more and more categories if this ever happened.
My pick for this year would definitely be Crazy, Stupid, Love.
While I agree - this does present a slippery slope where people would be clamoring for more and more categories if this ever happened.
My pick for this year would definitely be Crazy, Stupid, Love.
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