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5 Things Good and 5 Things Bad about Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

12.19.2016

WARNING: SPOILERS!

So, now that the promise of an annual Star Wars film has been met with the year-to-year release of THE FORCE AWAKENS and now ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY the many fans of George Lucas’ sci-fi fantasy brainchild are quickly re-arranging their faves list like a fantasy football league and making bold proclamations as they’re (re)swept up in the Star Wars hype machine. And, it’s understandable to a point. Very few film series’ in rotation have as big of a cultural impact as Star Wars, which has a leg up on both Marvel and DC, the emerging franchise kings of cinema, in terms of long-term popularity and nostalgia fever.

With all that in mind, the release of ROGUE ONE is firing up both hardcore and casual fans as they squabble over where it fits in the overall Star Wars film universe standing and just how good or bad it really is. Some say it’s only second to EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, while others claim it’s just a tad better than ATTACK OF THE CLONES. Before you get too worked up in being shocked at either claim, let’s keep in mind that many were making such bold claims after THE FORCE AWAKENS last year, let alone the trumpeting of EPISODE 1 being the best of the bunch from hungry fans leaving the theater in 1999. Time, introspection, and repeat viewings tend to shift opinion after that warm and fuzzy Star Wars high that resonates after hearing John Williams rousing score usher you out of the latest viewing of the latest film. No doubt, the same will happen with ROGUE ONE.

As a longtime Star Wars fan, I’ve come to temper my expectations and initial reactions when it comes to the franchise as I’ve noticed my own opinion skewed by that rush of a new Star Wars drug in my veins. Sometimes it takes a sobering view to really get to the root of how good or bad the newest film is and just where it fits in my overall order of best to worst, which is a pretty arbitrary thing to begin with. No list will ever be “right” as it’s a completely personal thing. And, as a result of that, I wholly accept that I could feel differently about ROGUE ONE as time goes on (always amazes me how dismissive we are about being able to change our opinion. It’s not carved in stone), but after two viewings and careful attention to each aspect of the film, both as a part of the larger Star Wars canon and as a standalone entry, I feel pretty confident in what’s both good and bad about the film. It’s certainly not a slam dunk of perfection, nor is it some kind of disaster created out of expensive reshoots. I think it falls somewhere in the middle, so here’s my rundown of the good and the bad of the latest Star Wars opus.

THE GOOD

The Look and The Action – This is perhaps one of the most beautifully filmed films of the entire Star Wars series, which obviously benefits from being the latest to be filmed (i.e. utilizing the highest standard of big budget cinema). From the various shots of the many planets, lending a visceral, organic, and awe-inspiring view into the greater universe, to the vast array of creatures that inhabit the world, both in practical and CGI, the film gives us a more refined look into the Star Wars galaxy, while still paying homage to the 70’s-like feel of George Lucas’ A New Hope. If nothing else, Rogue One looks amazing. On top of that, the action is staged at a frenetic and rousing pace, from ground level shoot outs to space-bound starship battles, the film covers the bases in terms of the types of action we hope to see in a Star Wars film, including quite a few "holy shit" moments that will forever become part of the Star Wars greatest hits list.

The Music – Michael Giacchino stepped in for Alexandre Desplat at the last minute to create the score for ROGUE ONE, but you’d never know it while watching the film. Giachinno has been scoring all types of franchises for a while now, including MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE and STAR TREK, and is perhaps one of the few composers working today that is most similar to the sweeping, exciting, and sometimes quirky work of John Williams for this genre. While echoing all the familiar themes of the greater Star Wars universe, Giacchino is able to create a new riff on each to help make ROGUE ONE its own animal, but just as thrilling and exciting as any of the other films in the series.

Darth Vader – Look, it’s real simple; Darth Vader is the Godzilla of Rogue One, which is both a jab and a nod to director Gareth Edwards (more on this later), who delivered about 11 minutes of the famed lizard in his own movie, which equaled the best 11 minutes of the entire film. I’d argue that we have about the same thing with ROGUE ONE when it comes to Vader. From the inspired coolness of seeing Vader in a bacta tank on Mustafar to his "choking" interaction with Director Krennic to the epic badassery that is his confrontation with the rebels fleeing with the Death Star plans (without a doubt my favorite part of the film), Vader steals the show and gives us a look at the Sith warrior as someone to be reckoned with again, rather than the whiny note he left us with in REVENGE OF THE SITH. If anything, ROGUE ONE restored Vader to his former glory (a friend proclaimed, "Vader got his balls back!") and, in truth, made me hungry for a Vader standalone film I never thought I wanted until now.

The Blind Guy and The Robot – While the weak iterations of just about every character in the film seemed to bog it down (more on that later, too), there were two standouts that left us with something memorable. Donnie Yen’s blind “force” warrior Chirrut and Alan Tudyk’s reprogrammed Empire droid K-2SO are absolute scene stealers and leave us with the most memorable lines and actions from the film outside Vader. “The Force is with me, I am one with the force” is sure to be a newer version of “May the Force Be With You” in years to come and K-2SO’s wit and banter make for a more fun and cynical version of C-3PO that’s also not afraid to get his robotic hands dirty in a fight. The inclusion of these two characters are what saves an otherwise boring and unenlightened cast of lead and supporting players.

The Potential – While the story and main characters did very little for me in this first standalone film, the overall potential of doing offshoot films like this within the Star Wars universe has more than proven its weight with ROGUE ONE. Audiences have obviously responded well with their pocketbooks, as well as their enthusiasm, so any doubt of doing standalone films should now be eliminated as Disney counts those receipts. Hopefully, though, we get more standalone’s for characters we actually care about. Han Solo is a good start, but if Disney isn’t at least entertaining or carefully planning a standalone Obi-Wan film (trilogy?) with Ewan McGregor then I’m just not sure they really get what they have at their disposal. Either way, ROGUE ONE proves that audiences are ready for more films that draw from material outside the Skywalker series. The galaxy is the limit at this point.

THE BAD

Jyn Erso – I remember when Rey from THE FORCE AWAKENS was being labeled a “Mary Sue” last year, as a character who seemed to overcome just about everything that came her way, but I’d argue that she actually has way more character, motivation, and personality than Felicity Jones’ Jyn Erso could hold a lightsaber to. Jones is a fine actress, but her Jyn Erso has nothing about her that makes her special or particularly interesting. She begins the film as a “rebellious” criminal who seems to be a pretty good fighter, but she doesn’t really seem to care about anything or have any real motivation. She’s there, essentially, in service of plot (finding her father, Galen), rather than to witness her journey and arc.

Although she seems connected to her father because he calls her “stardust” and gives her hugs, there’s not much more in her character that tells us why she would embark on this mission or, in the end, have a change of heart in the course of it. Her motivations make no sense, all the way to the very end, which negates her final sacrifice. It’s unearned. After her father is killed on Eadu (where he tells her, of course, that the Death Star must be stopped) she confronts Cassian, accusing him of going to Eadu specifically to kill her father, which is true, although he denies it. She points out that it was alliance fighters that killed her father and continues to hold Cassian accountable throughout the confrontation all the way to the end of the scene. It leaves an air of bitterness and unresolved conflict, which is totally cool and ripe for her to have a "moment" or turning point.

Cut to the next time we see Jyn, at the very front of a meeting with the alliance council, with an entirely different demeanor. It’s as if a switch was flipped and she’s suddenly all gung-ho for the rebels and going after the Death Star plans, giving us a big fat “hope” speech that comes out of nowhere. She is suddenly a leader and a voice for the rebellion, deciding that she’ll gather up whoever will go, including Cassian who she just blamed for her father’s death, and head out on a suicide mission to retrieve the plans.

Both characters are suddenly cool and chummy with each other, even going so far as to giving them a twinkle in their eyes of romance, which wasn’t hinted at for any other scene before. This sudden shift in character and story feels so ushered in and out-of-the-blue that it took me right out of their conflict altogether. It’s inconsistent to everything before it. It’s played in that familiar “let’s do this” sequencing that’s meant to enthrall and rally the audience, but if you stop for a moment, you’ll see that there’s a HUGE chunk of story missing there that lessens that impact in a big way.

Jyn, in essence, is missing her “moment”. She never comes to a realization, never accepts a new path, never acknowledges her own flaws and how to overcome them. She simply has a completely opposite feeling within the cut of one scene, no explanation needed. Beyond that, she has no special ability or characteristic that makes you take notice and there’s no bond or relationship outside of "Saw Gerrera raised me and abandoned me" that gives her any weight. On top of that, she’s never given a true heroic “stand-up-and-cheer” moment. You could argue that not every character needs that, but I’d argue that a strong protagonist is made strong by achieving that moment. We don’t get it here. Counting her getting good WiFi and sending a galactic e-mail as her “moment” feels like a stretch and a half. If her arc was simply to make her father proud, well that wasn’t earned either. A cute nickname isn’t enough motivation to make me believe that was worth a suicide mission. I’d buy her hatred for the Empire in destroying her family, but she never so much as utters that contempt. And while we don’t need an entire life history, we need more than what was given to make her a memorable lead in a Star Wars film.

Cassian - Diego Luna’s Cassian is no better. The most we learn about him is that he has the ability to be cold and cruel as a result of choosing to fight for the rebellion since he was a child. That’s it. Again, no specific characteristics or abilities that make you stand up and root for him or simply invest in his character. The other issue with both Cassian and Jyn is that they exhibit barely any charisma. They are fairly joyless overall and while we don't need a joke a minute or anything, some engaging banter that reveals their character would've been nice.  By contrast, you look at someone like Han Solo, as played by Harrison Ford, who created a character that had flaws, characteristics, and quirks that made him instantly memorable. His interactions with every character in each film was consistent to his personality. You remember him and how he was. You’ll likely walk out of Rogue One with little memory of who these characters were, let alone their names. Luna is a fine actor, but the character of Cassian is as cardboard as they come.

Krennic - Ben Mendelsohn’s Krennic falls in the same category as every other Empire villain we’ve seen in all other Star Wars films. Mean, greedy for power, and cruel in his actions, Krennic at least has some energy from Mendelsohn, a seasoned actor, but we learn nothing about him or what drives him. He’s simply an antagonistic presence, but not one that we’ll ever really care about, especially after a fairly dull final fate and confrontation. Ultimately, the lead characters of ROGUE ONE serve as plot devices rather than characters for us to care about and Krennic will fall into the halls of wasted villains. Say what you will about the one-off of Darth Maul in EPISODE 1, but at least I wanted to see more of him in other films and I most certainly remembered his name and deeds.

Recreated CGI Characters – Look, we’ve come a long way with special effects. We all know this. Some amazing stuff has adorned our eyeballs in recent years and that’s commendable as hell. However, here’s a truth we all know: When it comes to recreating a believable human being with CGI we just aren’t there yet. We’re close. We’re on the cusp. But, it’s not done. It’s not unidentifiable. And, sadly, the recreation of Peter Cushing’s A New Hope villain, Grand Moff Tarkin plays way more Polar Express than Ant-Man (re: Michael Douglas’ de-aged scene). While I think it was a bold choice to add Tarkin in, I think they should have used a similar actor instead and perhaps used some minor CGI enhancements as needed. As a full CGI character, that’s actually a full-on supporting character here, he is more distraction than anything. The eyes and mouth are off in every scene and it takes you out of the moment, rather than into it.

The same can be said of the Leia scene at the end. Sure, it’s really cool to see these “characters” again as they were in 1977, but ultimately they don’t register as the real deal. It’s far too obvious and makes it less genuine, even if the nostalgia feels come rushing in. A better way to portray both would’ve been either with realistic stand-ins or a more ambiguous presentation, either from the shadows or angles that aren’t reliant on a close-up. I would’ve appreciated that approach much more than the attempt to recreate actors from that era directly in a computer.

The Story – Okay, so we’ve basically known this story since 1977; to a point. But, in essence, ROGUE ONE is an expanded explanation to one of the biggest issues of Episode IV, namely the critical flaw in the design of the Death Star that allows Luke Skywalker to take it down with one shot. And that’s fine, really, but there’s obviously some confusion in how that was brought to life in ROGUE ONE. While there’s been arguments over the reshoots and rewrites of the film, it’s very obvious that it was reworked in many ways, from the sudden shifts in character motivations and attitude (or lack thereof) to the overly complicated and yet overly simple aspects of the finale. These things simply don’t flow together as well as they should and in many ways are just perplexing. But, hey explosions and AT-AT Walkers! Some will try to sell you on the "Hey, man, it's Star Wars, what do you expect?" argument, but I think that's the copout to end all copouts. There's still a standard for ALL films.

While some were wrapped up emotionally in this one, particularly the Dirty Dozen style fate of many of the characters, I felt flat. Quite simply, the heart was missing in many of these characters and I didn’t feel the resonance of their sacrifice anywhere near as much as I should have. Perhaps that speaks to Edwards as well, who pulled a similar move with GODZILLA. The best parts of that film were the few moments with the lead monster, just as the very best parts of ROGUE ONE are spent with a classic villain. Throwaway leads (such as Bryan Cranston, Aaron Taylor-Johnson, and Elizabeth Olsen in GODZILLA compared to Felicity Jones, Diego Luna, and Ben Mendelsohn in ROGUE ONE) seem to be a thing in his films thus far. He’s an otherwise talented filmmaker, but he simply hasn’t gotten a firm grip on the driving force of these spectacles: the characters.

In the end, ROGUE ONE is absolutely an entertaining film and one worth seeing in theaters, but the bold claims of it being the best ever in the series or filled with the best characters to ever grace a Star Wars film are just that: bold claims. It’s got that Star Wars vibe, to be sure, but it doesn’t have that Star Wars heart, which is something Lucasfilm/Disney need to make sure they chase in their next standalone adventure. Otherwise, we’re going to be saddled with a heap of spectacle without an ounce of character. We all like the fireworks, sure, but it’s the people making those fireworks happen that matter the most.

So, let us know what YOU thought of these points or if you have some of your own to offer. We always love to talk some Star Wars, so let’s hear what you took away from ROGUE ONE and what your hopes are for future standalone pics!

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10:26PM on 12/20/2016
Other than CGI Leía, which is a tiny part of the film, I had more problems with The Force Awakens.
Other than CGI Leía, which is a tiny part of the film, I had more problems with The Force Awakens.
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6:31PM on 12/20/2016
I agree with you on the CGI, and it not being as good as a film it could've been but I disagree with you on Krennic, Jyn Erso, and Cassian. Ben Mendelsohn played a great villain, Diego Luna played his part well, and Felicity Jones played her character the way she was supposed to be.
I agree with you on the CGI, and it not being as good as a film it could've been but I disagree with you on Krennic, Jyn Erso, and Cassian. Ben Mendelsohn played a great villain, Diego Luna played his part well, and Felicity Jones played her character the way she was supposed to be.
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12:39AM on 12/20/2016
You saw Han Solo in four films. You saw Cassian in one. It's not a fair comparison.
You saw Han Solo in four films. You saw Cassian in one. It's not a fair comparison.
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3:29AM on 12/20/2016
He accomplished more in Episode IV alone than Cassian did in Rogue One. It's fair.
He accomplished more in Episode IV alone than Cassian did in Rogue One. It's fair.
7:19AM on 12/20/2016
i would say that cassian is a more complex character than solo, more twisted. Underdeveloped maybe, but more complex...
i would say that cassian is a more complex character than solo, more twisted. Underdeveloped maybe, but more complex...
10:53AM on 12/20/2016
We knew nothing about Han Solo after one movie.
We knew nothing about Han Solo after one movie.
2:52PM on 12/20/2016
We know he made the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
We know he made the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
10:44PM on 12/19/2016

Great points...

I agree for the most part but I thought Cushing was well done. The characters were flat and I felt K2 was too glib. I enjoyed the movie but I didn't come away wowed. I did like the villain, much better than General Hux. I'm trying to view the movie as a quick snapshot of the SW universe rather than a a deep long look and in that context it's a bit better.
I agree for the most part but I thought Cushing was well done. The characters were flat and I felt K2 was too glib. I enjoyed the movie but I didn't come away wowed. I did like the villain, much better than General Hux. I'm trying to view the movie as a quick snapshot of the SW universe rather than a a deep long look and in that context it's a bit better.
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10:07PM on 12/19/2016
The only thing I had a problem with was the last shot of Princess Leia. Not only did it feel incredibly shoehorned, but comically bad CGI.
The only thing I had a problem with was the last shot of Princess Leia. Not only did it feel incredibly shoehorned, but comically bad CGI.
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6:51PM on 12/19/2016

Agree

I agree with most of the pros and cons. I agree with almost all the pros except for Donnie Yen's character. I thought his devotion to the force was over the top. Every chance he got he had to remind the audience that he believed in the force, it got annoying. As for K2SO I couldn't get over how he could calculate the probability of a situation but couldn't improvise his way out of a paper bag. Also they didn't flesh out who Jyn was. I get she lost her parents when she was young but what
I agree with most of the pros and cons. I agree with almost all the pros except for Donnie Yen's character. I thought his devotion to the force was over the top. Every chance he got he had to remind the audience that he believed in the force, it got annoying. As for K2SO I couldn't get over how he could calculate the probability of a situation but couldn't improvise his way out of a paper bag. Also they didn't flesh out who Jyn was. I get she lost her parents when she was young but what characteristics does she develop from that. Is she selfish or a selfless person? Is she so much of a loner she can't work well with a team? Does she have trust issues. Questions similar to these and others needed to be answered to help paint the picture of who she is, which helps show her motivation to the decisions she's making. Just showing her in jail doesn't say much about who she is. She could be in there for any number of reasons. They should have explored more on what she learned from Saw as well and if/how that effected who she is as we see her. Lastly Saw was such a terrible character because he was so expendable and also the over the top acting didn't help. They really drop the ball on that character. There was so much they could have done with him and Jyn. My other gripe was the plot feeling like filler until it was time to steal the death star plans. They put too much time into showing how the characters met, and not enough time towards the main point of this movie. Like how far along was the movie until Jyn was trying to convince everyone to steal the death star plans?

I liked TFA and can watch that a number of times. But Rogue One is a one-watch movie. The payoff at the end was great but not enough to make me want to sit through the first hour or so of the movie.
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6:49PM on 12/19/2016
Another PRO: That DUNKIRK IMAX clip. Looks incredible, especially the dogfight using real planes and actors flying. My next most anticipated.
Another PRO: That DUNKIRK IMAX clip. Looks incredible, especially the dogfight using real planes and actors flying. My next most anticipated.
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6:47PM on 12/19/2016

Really enjoyed the movie, but......

I agree with some of the points made in this article, especially around the main characters not quite working, (but not about the music, even my wife said she thought the music didn't work, and she never says stuff like that!) but there were other things I found more distracting. The problem with these type of prequels is the knock on effect it has to the originals. This film is set before and finishes right where A New Hope kicks off and yet so many new things are added that we never see
I agree with some of the points made in this article, especially around the main characters not quite working, (but not about the music, even my wife said she thought the music didn't work, and she never says stuff like that!) but there were other things I found more distracting. The problem with these type of prequels is the knock on effect it has to the originals. This film is set before and finishes right where A New Hope kicks off and yet so many new things are added that we never see again. There were Death Troopers, tank troopers, scariff troopers, imperial assassin droids, new tie fighters, different imperial walkers, planetary shields, are we supposed to think the empire just ditched all these things in the few minutes between this film ending and the start of A New Hope. I understand this is done to sell lots of new toys and merchandise, and I can understand adding new things to sequels like the hoth troopers in Empire or the scout troopers in Jedi but to have so many things in a prequel that are never seen again just seems odd. If you have access to assassin droids that seem very capable of getting the job done then why never use them again? Surely there would have been some of these things on the Death Star when Han and Luke were running around but no, that was just full of normal standard storm troopers. I guess we will have to wait for another special edition where these things are CGI'd into the originals!
Talking of CGI, those characters did not annoy me as much as it seems to have other people. Yes they were obviously computer generated, but they were very well done, and Tarkin was absolutely necessary to this film, I think having him either not there at all or only ever shown in shadows/reflections etc. would have been way more distracting than what we got. Let's be honest the CGI of these characters was light years ahead of any of the dreadful characters we saw in episodes 1, 2 and 3, and let's be honest recasting those roles just would not have worked either, everyone would have complained if another actor played Tarkin so I think they did the very best they could to get as close as they did.
Overall the film did a great job of fitting into the feel of the original trilogy, I actually went back and watched A New Hope again the day after seeing this and its amazing how much you notice that ties in to this story that you may not have noticed if it's been a while since you saw A New Hope. Maybe this should have been called Episode 3.5 instead.
The only other thing I would love to have known was what type of movie we would have had before the reshoots. Go back and watch the trailers, especially the early ones and you will see just how much never made it into the film or was entirely reshot. I am glad Disney went back and did the reshoots because the end result was a great movie, but it also may explain some of the story flow issues and character development problems you mention in the article. I wonder what the actual budget ended up being for this film if they had to reshoot so much of it!
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6:52PM on 12/19/2016
I think there's a better, more cohesive film in there somewhere amidst the reshoots and what was left on the cutting room floor. We'll never see it, but I believe it's there.
I think there's a better, more cohesive film in there somewhere amidst the reshoots and what was left on the cutting room floor. We'll never see it, but I believe it's there.
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5:12PM on 12/19/2016
Definitely agree with this article. While I thought the movie was okay, it felt a lot like Edwards' Godzilla. The movie was better than Force Awakens by a long shot, but it still didn't hold a candle to the original trilogy. I think because it's stuck in the shadow and a part of the OT instead of its own story set in the SW universe is what hampers it, for me. Like I said,it was good, just not something I have any itch to see again in the theater. Maybe on Netflix.
Definitely agree with this article. While I thought the movie was okay, it felt a lot like Edwards' Godzilla. The movie was better than Force Awakens by a long shot, but it still didn't hold a candle to the original trilogy. I think because it's stuck in the shadow and a part of the OT instead of its own story set in the SW universe is what hampers it, for me. Like I said,it was good, just not something I have any itch to see again in the theater. Maybe on Netflix.
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4:19PM on 12/19/2016

HEY ...

... you know what's really (and only) thing important? The movie made a s**tload of money. That's all. Showing Kathleen Kennedy that standalone movies are a go. Like Episode 7 (or should I say REMAKE of Episode 4) showed that people want new trilogy. So buckle up, don't complain and enjoy. You approved it the moment you bought the ticket.
... you know what's really (and only) thing important? The movie made a s**tload of money. That's all. Showing Kathleen Kennedy that standalone movies are a go. Like Episode 7 (or should I say REMAKE of Episode 4) showed that people want new trilogy. So buckle up, don't complain and enjoy. You approved it the moment you bought the ticket.
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4:24PM on 12/19/2016
Tell that to Transformers fans.
Tell that to Transformers fans.
1:57AM on 12/20/2016
Don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars (at least up to Episode 7) as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna swallow everything Lucasfilm throws my way.
Don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars (at least up to Episode 7) as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna swallow everything Lucasfilm throws my way.
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3:33PM on 12/19/2016

Agree with SOme....But

the music is not good, i know he was rushed to it but i didn't like the score.
About the CGI, people need to try to do this kind of changes and be able to evaluate people's reactions to it. This is just part of the process to accomplish the perfect CGI actor.
the music is not good, i know he was rushed to it but i didn't like the score.
About the CGI, people need to try to do this kind of changes and be able to evaluate people's reactions to it. This is just part of the process to accomplish the perfect CGI actor.
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3:19PM on 12/19/2016

CGI Characters

I agree with all of the pros. We're gonna have to agree to disagree on the cons. What I personally feel about the CGI characters is that Tarkin played much better when he was just a reflection in the glass. Whether or not this would have been able to play the whole movie I don't know, but my initial reaction to seeing his face in the glass was 100% acceptance and joy. As for Leia, a view of her on the deck from behind was all that we needed. We know who the hell it is. The second she
I agree with all of the pros. We're gonna have to agree to disagree on the cons. What I personally feel about the CGI characters is that Tarkin played much better when he was just a reflection in the glass. Whether or not this would have been able to play the whole movie I don't know, but my initial reaction to seeing his face in the glass was 100% acceptance and joy. As for Leia, a view of her on the deck from behind was all that we needed. We know who the hell it is. The second she turned around I was like "oh hell no". Pointless...that was fan service. The world is just not ready for 100% CGI characters playing along side of Humans. They stick out like sore thumbs.

Having said that, one of my favorite movies of the year!

Also that second Tarkin Picture is Jordu Schell's sculpt and not the Tarkin from the movie so I would replace the pic since it's misleading.. Just saying.
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3:40PM on 12/19/2016
I used the sculpt image as it's the closest representation to Tarkin's Rogue One "look". Unfortunately, they don't have stills of that online yet (legally speaking, anyway).
I used the sculpt image as it's the closest representation to Tarkin's Rogue One "look". Unfortunately, they don't have stills of that online yet (legally speaking, anyway).
1:59PM on 12/19/2016

Don't necessarily agree with everything but....

At least you had a well thought out argument. I actually thought the story was quite inspired, loved Mendelsohn, and I thought Diego Luna was better than Felicity Jones. From a cinematography, editing standpoint it's probably the best of the bunch. I'll freely admit that I like TFA better and you're right Daisy Ridley's Rey is way more charismatic. The Peter Cushing CGI took me out of the movie for a moment but I eventually got used to it. I still give it a 9/10 and the potential is the
At least you had a well thought out argument. I actually thought the story was quite inspired, loved Mendelsohn, and I thought Diego Luna was better than Felicity Jones. From a cinematography, editing standpoint it's probably the best of the bunch. I'll freely admit that I like TFA better and you're right Daisy Ridley's Rey is way more charismatic. The Peter Cushing CGI took me out of the movie for a moment but I eventually got used to it. I still give it a 9/10 and the potential is the key thing here. Couldn't agree more with the Obi-Wan stand alone. Fuck a Boba Fett movie. I don't get the appeal. Give me a Knights of the Old Republic, Vader stand alone, or Yoda film any day.
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1:42PM on 12/19/2016

Agree with a lot here, but...

The film's issues didn't seem to detract from my enjoyment as much as it did for the writer here.

I actually really liked Jyn and Cassian as characters but felt the film left them very short-changed. Jyn's intro was the biggest misstep as she isn't given anything to do other than go along for the ride. Why have her just be rescued right away by the rebellion and then forced into the mission? Why can't we give her some sense of agency at the start? Why did she get arrested? Maybe she was
The film's issues didn't seem to detract from my enjoyment as much as it did for the writer here.

I actually really liked Jyn and Cassian as characters but felt the film left them very short-changed. Jyn's intro was the biggest misstep as she isn't given anything to do other than go along for the ride. Why have her just be rescued right away by the rebellion and then forced into the mission? Why can't we give her some sense of agency at the start? Why did she get arrested? Maybe she was actually working some plan for Gerrara or her own plan that the Rebels don't know about. Give her something to work with and show us why she's so capable! And your right about a scene missing between her father dying and her rousing speech to the rebels.

If some of these character beats had been fixed, the story overall wouldn't have felt as flat - especially the first hour of the film. And yeah, the character recreations were the biggest swing-and-a-miss here. Less would have been so much more with Tarkin and Leia. Don't know how this movie had such extensive reshoots yet the Polar Express was allowed to stay on the tracks. That should have been issue #1.
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1:09PM on 12/19/2016
I didn't think the characters were badly-written per se; it was more of a story structure problem. The characters' introductions and arcs were similar to A NEW HOPE, THE PHANTOM MENACE and THE FORCE AWAKENS. Those movies were the beginnings of trilogies. With this one, we knew from the start it would be a "one shot". By the last act, JYN, CASSIAN, BODHI and BAZE have realized how they can grow as people... but it was kind of pointless since they wouldn't have the opportunity.

I do agree with
I didn't think the characters were badly-written per se; it was more of a story structure problem. The characters' introductions and arcs were similar to A NEW HOPE, THE PHANTOM MENACE and THE FORCE AWAKENS. Those movies were the beginnings of trilogies. With this one, we knew from the start it would be a "one shot". By the last act, JYN, CASSIAN, BODHI and BAZE have realized how they can grow as people... but it was kind of pointless since they wouldn't have the opportunity.

I do agree with the CGI. I didn't remember TARKIN's face but, during his scene, I started to notice something was off with him. I didn't notice inmediately because there wasn't a lot of light on his face (good decision). I figured out they were using the same actor and were de-aging him. Later, I read that I was half right. When LEIA showed up, and I was like "WTF?!" It was horrendously fake. What was the point? LEIA's face is hidden for a few seconds. That could've been it (she didn't even have to say anything).
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12:45PM on 12/19/2016

Very well written

I have been trying to put into words what I felt was a bit off about this movie. I really liked some aspects of it, but I was turned off by others. It felt like a "standalone" movie and not part of the overall Star Wars universe. That flippin' robot had better aim than all the Storm Troopers combined; maybe make a butt load of that robot for the army. I missed all the cool Jedi/Sith stuff. I watch Star Wars more for the fantasy aspect than the Sci-Fi. I can't really appreciate the Sci-Fi aspect
I have been trying to put into words what I felt was a bit off about this movie. I really liked some aspects of it, but I was turned off by others. It felt like a "standalone" movie and not part of the overall Star Wars universe. That flippin' robot had better aim than all the Storm Troopers combined; maybe make a butt load of that robot for the army. I missed all the cool Jedi/Sith stuff. I watch Star Wars more for the fantasy aspect than the Sci-Fi. I can't really appreciate the Sci-Fi aspect because Robots have feelings and personalities, but we use floppy disk? Or ships can be marvels of technology but they don't have the ability to bio-scan ships (have to manually board them). Don't even get me started on how every single planet has breathable air and perfect gravity. So, I turn my brain off with the Sci-fi and I eat up the Fantasy Soap Opera stuff. This felt ....off. Plus, was it necessary to have a United Nations of rebels? I get that this needs to make money in China, India, Mexico/Spain, and all of Europe in general, but can we have maybe one American? Oh...We Did! The bad guy was American. Great job. I have a ton of little gripes, but I did enjoy the movie. I just don't feel the need to speed back to the theater to see it again. :(
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12:28PM on 12/19/2016

100% agree

Well said, sir. The characters were the biggest problem. Between the distraction of the recreated characters and not being emotionally involved in the fate of the heroes, I left my showing feeling kind of conflicted about the film.
Well said, sir. The characters were the biggest problem. Between the distraction of the recreated characters and not being emotionally involved in the fate of the heroes, I left my showing feeling kind of conflicted about the film.
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12:21PM on 12/19/2016
Spot on.
Spot on.
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12:16PM on 12/19/2016

Hit the nail on the head

Exactly how I felt about the film, just articulated better. I put this above the prequels, but below 4,5,6, and 7
Exactly how I felt about the film, just articulated better. I put this above the prequels, but below 4,5,6, and 7
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