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A fan has re-edited The Hobbit trilogy into a single four hour film

01.20.2015

I love me a good fan edit. Whether it be the various revisions made to THE PHANTOM MENACE or ATTACK OF THE CLONES to the reimagined take on Zack Snyder's MAN OF STEEL, fan edits are a democratic way for movie buffs to offer an alternative look at feature films they felt could have been a bit better with some tweaks. The latest to get the fan edit treatment is Peter Jackson's THE HOBBIT trilogy.

With THE HOBBIT: THE BATTLE OF THE FIVE ARMIES released last month, fans can now make their final declaration as to whether Jackson's second trilogy of Middle Earth films worked or if padding the story to fill three movies was just a greedy cash grab. The self-titled TolkienEditor took it upon himself to make this single, 270 minute film that streamlines Jackson's films into a movie that focuses on Bilbo's story, much like the novel did. He outlines in great detail the cuts and changes made which include the investigation of Dol Guldor, the Tauriel-Legolas-Kili love triangle, the Pale Orc subplot, several of the orc skirmishes, and more. He even offers an explanation as to his ultimate goal in the edit.

My main goals in undertaking this edit were to re-centre the story on Bilbo, and to have the narrative move at a much brisker pace (though not so fast that the audience lost grasp of what was going on). Creating smooth transitions between scenes was of particular importance in this regard. I even reordered a few moments in the film to make it flow better. The toughest parts to edit were the barrel-ride and the fight on Ravenhill (since Legolas and Tauriel kept bursting in with their gymnastics routine).

Whether the ultimate cut is successful will really be up to you as the editor is offering the film for free download on his site as long as he is able. There are also torrent links if that is more your fancy. From the sounds of it, this edit could be the closest we could get to what THE HOBBIT would have looked like if it mimicked the original J.R.R. Tolkien book.

Here is a brief excerpt from the re-edit.

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Source: Tolkien Editor

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6:29AM on 01/22/2015
If I could magically transport myself into the editing room of any past film, it would be The Dark Knight Rises. I'd lean into Christopher Nolan's ear and whisper, "At the end there, when Michael Caine smiles and raises his tea cup... maybe don't cut to Christian Bale sitting at another table, it takes away all ambiguity and ruins an otherwise great ending." Then he'd turn to me, in his business suit, and say, "Good God, that's so much better!"
If I could magically transport myself into the editing room of any past film, it would be The Dark Knight Rises. I'd lean into Christopher Nolan's ear and whisper, "At the end there, when Michael Caine smiles and raises his tea cup... maybe don't cut to Christian Bale sitting at another table, it takes away all ambiguity and ruins an otherwise great ending." Then he'd turn to me, in his business suit, and say, "Good God, that's so much better!"
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5:45PM on 01/21/2015
I would be more impressed if he cut it down to one 2 hour movie, 2 and a half hours tops.
I would be more impressed if he cut it down to one 2 hour movie, 2 and a half hours tops.
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8:39PM on 01/20/2015
You know, the more I think about it my problem isn't that Jackson extended the films, but moreso why he extended them. The love triangle and Gandalf's side mission didn't add much. I wish the dwarves were given more characterization so the audience actually cared about them. I know even the book didn't add that much detail about them, but I still think having a stronger focus on them and Bilbo would have made for a better film.
You know, the more I think about it my problem isn't that Jackson extended the films, but moreso why he extended them. The love triangle and Gandalf's side mission didn't add much. I wish the dwarves were given more characterization so the audience actually cared about them. I know even the book didn't add that much detail about them, but I still think having a stronger focus on them and Bilbo would have made for a better film.
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8:03PM on 01/20/2015

Good.

I was sincerely hoping this would happen. I'm sorry, but 3, 3 hour plus movies from a slim 200+ page childrens book is really just too much.

The Hobbit warrants a single film, not an epic trilogy.
I was sincerely hoping this would happen. I'm sorry, but 3, 3 hour plus movies from a slim 200+ page childrens book is really just too much.

The Hobbit warrants a single film, not an epic trilogy.
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6:24PM on 01/20/2015

I want a super-cut of all 6 extended editions in to 1 twenty hour movie.

Because I believe in the free market.
Because I believe in the free market.
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6:14PM on 01/20/2015
Sure are a lot of commenters getting their panties in a bunch over this blog post... lol
Sure are a lot of commenters getting their panties in a bunch over this blog post... lol
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5:32PM on 01/20/2015
If they released this as one four hour film you'd hear the masses collectively b!tch that it was overlong and overstuffed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If they released this as one four hour film you'd hear the masses collectively b!tch that it was overlong and overstuffed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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6:13PM on 01/20/2015
Well, the original idea was to make 2 films not 3... so a 4 hour film is probably that, just split it in two.
Well, the original idea was to make 2 films not 3... so a 4 hour film is probably that, just split it in two.
5:09PM on 01/20/2015

WHAT THE F@#$???

Piracy much? Whether or not the guys a fan Joblo.com shouldn't be advertising or advocating the illegal viewing or downloading of movies. So if I edit all of the marvel phase one into one film that I say flows better you guys will give me a shout out when I offer it for free download? I've been a happy viewer of Joblo for a lot of years but this really doesn't impress me.
Piracy much? Whether or not the guys a fan Joblo.com shouldn't be advertising or advocating the illegal viewing or downloading of movies. So if I edit all of the marvel phase one into one film that I say flows better you guys will give me a shout out when I offer it for free download? I've been a happy viewer of Joblo for a lot of years but this really doesn't impress me.
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5:26PM on 01/20/2015
Chill out man. Those movies made billions at the B.O.... Fan edits have been common for decades.
Chill out man. Those movies made billions at the B.O.... Fan edits have been common for decades.
7:15PM on 01/20/2015
Fan edits are not piracy you retard
Fan edits are not piracy you retard
9:18PM on 01/20/2015
Ooo big words there keyboard warrior Grand_Marquis. Insults always make a strong argument. Allowing people to download or stream copyrighted material is piracy. Plenty of companies request their material taken down off of youtube and there are lots of videos uploaded with disclaimers that they don't own the rights to the footage. Piracy is piracy no matter what.
Ooo big words there keyboard warrior Grand_Marquis. Insults always make a strong argument. Allowing people to download or stream copyrighted material is piracy. Plenty of companies request their material taken down off of youtube and there are lots of videos uploaded with disclaimers that they don't own the rights to the footage. Piracy is piracy no matter what.
8:26AM on 01/21/2015
It's clearly piracy if the guy's making a movie that's still in many cinemas and not out on home formats yet available for people to download. Regardless of it being a valid exercise in editing, he clearly has no legal right to distribute this via torrent or any other means.
It's clearly piracy if the guy's making a movie that's still in many cinemas and not out on home formats yet available for people to download. Regardless of it being a valid exercise in editing, he clearly has no legal right to distribute this via torrent or any other means.
4:59PM on 01/20/2015
Needs way more editing! This whole sequence should have been cut entirely considering in the book, the barrels containing the Dwarves are shut, there are no Orcs running after them and the Elves have not realized they've escaped at this point. They should have just reappeared safe and sound near Esgaroth... I can tolerate Bard taking on a larger role than in the book, but the whole subplot of the Orcs invading Esgaroth was also stupid and useless. Obviously the addition of Legolas and his
Needs way more editing! This whole sequence should have been cut entirely considering in the book, the barrels containing the Dwarves are shut, there are no Orcs running after them and the Elves have not realized they've escaped at this point. They should have just reappeared safe and sound near Esgaroth... I can tolerate Bard taking on a larger role than in the book, but the whole subplot of the Orcs invading Esgaroth was also stupid and useless. Obviously the addition of Legolas and his ridiculous love triangle with a sexy young Dwarf and a made-up character is blasphemous and makes me wonder if Jackson even is a Tolkien fan. And that horrendous CGI... man oh man...
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8:05PM on 01/20/2015
Yeah, the love triangle is what pushed me away from bothering to see any of it.
Yeah, the love triangle is what pushed me away from bothering to see any of it.
9:59PM on 01/20/2015
A made-up character is hardly "blasphemous". The Uruk-hai Lurtz in The Fellowship of the Ring was a totally invented character, but nobody minded. It's what they choose to actually DO with the character that makes it so effective, or really hard to stomach. Simply put, Tauriel was a massive waste of a character when she had the potential to be so much more. That's the problem, not the simple fact that she was made-up.
A made-up character is hardly "blasphemous". The Uruk-hai Lurtz in The Fellowship of the Ring was a totally invented character, but nobody minded. It's what they choose to actually DO with the character that makes it so effective, or really hard to stomach. Simply put, Tauriel was a massive waste of a character when she had the potential to be so much more. That's the problem, not the simple fact that she was made-up.
10:37PM on 01/20/2015
@SauronsBANE Yes you are right. Sorry my sentence was ambiguous, I meant "Legolas and his ridiculous love [link] meaning the blasphemous thing was the love triangle in itself, amplified by the fact that it was between a completely made-up character, another not in the book and one that's barely mentioned twice. Lurtz definitely was a good addition for he allowed the viewer to put a face on an otherwise unrecognizable bunch of Orcs. But Lurtz didn't fall in a love triangle with a character from a
@SauronsBANE Yes you are right. Sorry my sentence was ambiguous, I meant "Legolas and his ridiculous love [link] meaning the blasphemous thing was the love triangle in itself, amplified by the fact that it was between a completely made-up character, another not in the book and one that's barely mentioned twice. Lurtz definitely was a good addition for he allowed the viewer to put a face on an otherwise unrecognizable bunch of Orcs. But Lurtz didn't fall in a love triangle with a character from another Tolkien book and Celeborn, nor did he end up using 25 minutes of screentime.
10:44PM on 01/20/2015
Haha I gotcha, I misinterpreted what you were trying to say, so my bad. But yeah I totally agree! Ugh, that love triangle WAS awful and totally unnecessary. And a massive waste of time.

Although now that you mention it, I'm kind of curious about what an Uruk-hai love triangle would've looked like in the original trilogy =P
Haha I gotcha, I misinterpreted what you were trying to say, so my bad. But yeah I totally agree! Ugh, that love triangle WAS awful and totally unnecessary. And a massive waste of time.

Although now that you mention it, I'm kind of curious about what an Uruk-hai love triangle would've looked like in the original trilogy =P
4:28PM on 01/20/2015

This guy knows what's up.

He definitely sounds like he has the right idea for what made the book so great. My biggest problem with the movies is that The Hobbit isn't actually the main character in his own trilogy. He's been pushed to the side in favor of everyone and anyone else. But even though this re-edit sounds like it'd be better than the movies, I don't think that's enough to save the trilogy. You'd have to film entirely new footage and completely change entire storylines in order to make it a 'true' Tolkien
He definitely sounds like he has the right idea for what made the book so great. My biggest problem with the movies is that The Hobbit isn't actually the main character in his own trilogy. He's been pushed to the side in favor of everyone and anyone else. But even though this re-edit sounds like it'd be better than the movies, I don't think that's enough to save the trilogy. You'd have to film entirely new footage and completely change entire storylines in order to make it a 'true' Tolkien edit. Ah well.
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3:45PM on 01/20/2015
You are supporting piracy by posting this. This person had to have downloaded a copy of five armies. A site that claims to be such big movie fans should not support piracy in any way.
You are supporting piracy by posting this. This person had to have downloaded a copy of five armies. A site that claims to be such big movie fans should not support piracy in any way.
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3:50PM on 01/20/2015
Yeah I am going to have to agree with this comment. No doubt a fan super cut of the trilogy is going to be violating some copyright laws here. If a shortened condensed single film is intended then Peter Jackson would do it himself.
Yeah I am going to have to agree with this comment. No doubt a fan super cut of the trilogy is going to be violating some copyright laws here. If a shortened condensed single film is intended then Peter Jackson would do it himself.
5:30PM on 01/20/2015
These movies grossed a billion dollars, I think they'll be fine.

The NY Times published an article on the terrorist attacks in France, so following your logic that would mean the NY Times supports terrorist attacks...
These movies grossed a billion dollars, I think they'll be fine.

The NY Times published an article on the terrorist attacks in France, so following your logic that would mean the NY Times supports terrorist attacks...
5:41PM on 01/20/2015
Piracy is piracy no matter how much money a companies made. Shoplift an Iphone and when you get caught just tell the cops "Apple's worth billions, they'll be fine." See where that gets you.
Piracy is piracy no matter how much money a companies made. Shoplift an Iphone and when you get caught just tell the cops "Apple's worth billions, they'll be fine." See where that gets you.
5:48PM on 01/20/2015
@4511138...that isn't even remotely the same. The site here isn't just reporting it they are providing links. They are facilitating theft of intellectual property.
@4511138...that isn't even remotely the same. The site here isn't just reporting it they are providing links. They are facilitating theft of intellectual property.
6:16PM on 01/20/2015
Downloading is stealing, not streaming... JoBlo only provided the link to the streaming. Anyway, how can you guys get so easily offended, they're just reporting some fun news. At this point it's still a case of freedom of speech, you don't have to agree but "being offended doesn't mean you're right" as Louis C.K. puts it. Had they provided a link to a stream of The Interview, none of you would have complained I think.
Downloading is stealing, not streaming... JoBlo only provided the link to the streaming. Anyway, how can you guys get so easily offended, they're just reporting some fun news. At this point it's still a case of freedom of speech, you don't have to agree but "being offended doesn't mean you're right" as Louis C.K. puts it. Had they provided a link to a stream of The Interview, none of you would have complained I think.
6:24PM on 01/20/2015
Are you an idiot? Streaming is just a different form of stealing. You are watching something you did not pay for that is not available free of charge by the owners of the property. But go ahead and be fine with theft.
Are you an idiot? Streaming is just a different form of stealing. You are watching something you did not pay for that is not available free of charge by the owners of the property. But go ahead and be fine with theft.
6:34PM on 01/20/2015
Dude, no need for rudeness. As absurd as it may sound, streaming and downloading are two very different things. Streaming is NOT considered stealing or theft of property, that's why sites like GrooveShark, Songza and YouTube stay alive and why Napster, LimeWire and other download programs have all died. The police cannot arrest you for simply streaming. Plus fan edits have been around for a long time and some companies like LucasFilm have never taken any actions against those. Yes, it's a thin
Dude, no need for rudeness. As absurd as it may sound, streaming and downloading are two very different things. Streaming is NOT considered stealing or theft of property, that's why sites like GrooveShark, Songza and YouTube stay alive and why Napster, LimeWire and other download programs have all died. The police cannot arrest you for simply streaming. Plus fan edits have been around for a long time and some companies like LucasFilm have never taken any actions against those. Yes, it's a thin line, but it's a very important one. JoBlo is not encouraging the theft of any property by reporting this news, relax.
7:17PM on 01/20/2015
Fan edits are condoned by most studios and are not piracy, you fucking morons
Fan edits are condoned by most studios and are not piracy, you fucking morons
3:38PM on 01/20/2015
that's way faster than I expected! But I bet with some effort we can get it down to the length of a single film
that's way faster than I expected! But I bet with some effort we can get it down to the length of a single film
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3:35PM on 01/20/2015

It was inevitable; the first of many, I'm sure

I was going to do this myself. It was the first thing I considered when I heard it wasn't going to be one movie. My plan was to shoot for 140-200 minutes. However, I decided not never watch them again and I thought the time involved in doing it "right" was not worth the final product in any form.
I am sure there will be many MORE "fan cuts", especially when it is all available in hi-def.
I was going to do this myself. It was the first thing I considered when I heard it wasn't going to be one movie. My plan was to shoot for 140-200 minutes. However, I decided not never watch them again and I thought the time involved in doing it "right" was not worth the final product in any form.
I am sure there will be many MORE "fan cuts", especially when it is all available in hi-def.
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3:34PM on 01/20/2015
I don't know the quality, but even his language shows he knows what he's doing. I Think the idea of this is awesome but also a total (maybe needed) slap in the face to Jackson and company.
I don't know the quality, but even his language shows he knows what he's doing. I Think the idea of this is awesome but also a total (maybe needed) slap in the face to Jackson and company.
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